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Artist's Catcopter Causes a Stir

derekmead writes "I'm not sure that Dutch artist Bart Jansen had political commentary in mind when he created the Orvillecopter — combining a stuffed cat with a quadrotor, and naming it after Orville Wright — but indeed it's art, whose meaning will lie in the eye of the beholder. And for those that say stitching up a dead animal around the guts of a helicopter and flying it around is 'sick,' what of the massive drone industry, which, more than just producing a symbol, actually is creating flying death?"

360 comments

  1. Leather belt/jacket/shoes by br0ked · · Score: 5, Funny

    So of the people that are complaining, how many wear a leather belt, jacket or shoes?? For the record I think this is pretty cool and hope when I did they make me into a drone and fly me over all of my ex's houses on a regular basis....

    1. Re:Leather belt/jacket/shoes by Sebastopol · · Score: 0, Troll

      Me.

      I'm wearing leather.

      I think it's tasteless to use a cat because I think they are cute. He can do whatever he likes, I just think it is crass. I would have used a dog, and probably would have upset dog lovers. They would also have the right to complain and try to stop me.

      So what confuses you here?

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    2. Re:Leather belt/jacket/shoes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      I think it's tasteless to use a cat because I think they are cute. He can do whatever he likes, I just think it is crass. I would have used a dog, and probably would have upset dog lovers. They would also have the right to complain and try to stop me.

      Hear, hear. I think it's cute to use a cat because the taxidermist did a good enough job in making it, well, smile as it flies towards you. I think it's hilarious, and when my cat's time comes, I'll likely choose to immortalize her thus.

    3. Re:Leather belt/jacket/shoes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's tasteless because the cat was supposedly his beloved pet. Come on.

    4. Re:Leather belt/jacket/shoes by cpu6502 · · Score: 4, Funny

      >>>So what confuses you here?

      Some politician somewhere will try to outlaw the stuffing of cats. (And then go stuff dead cow flesh into his mouth while he walks-round in dead cow skin.) It is confusing why some animals are protected & their killing outlawed, while other animals get murdered in the billions.

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    5. Re:Leather belt/jacket/shoes by g0bshiTe · · Score: 0

      Leather jacket, belt, shoes at least 95% of the animal was used from meat to eat to clothing, to pet toys. Do you think the artist can say the same?

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    6. Re:Leather belt/jacket/shoes by g0bshiTe · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's a media stunt. Had it been a pet owner that was an rc enthusiast I could possibly see, but this guy sought out someone to do this. Most likely for the notoriety.

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    7. Re:Leather belt/jacket/shoes by EStrat · · Score: 1

      Reading comprehension fail. The cat used by the artist was roadkill, not a beloved pet (though it could have been someone's beloved pet).

    8. Re:Leather belt/jacket/shoes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Since it was his beloved pet and not your beloved pet, shouldn't he be the one to decide if this is tasteless?

    9. Re:Leather belt/jacket/shoes by g0bshiTe · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I think it's funny because when the thing crashes it won't be a big deal. Cats always land on their feet.

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    10. Re:Leather belt/jacket/shoes by g0bshiTe · · Score: 2

      I'm in agreement here. I don't understand why those animals they put down in the millions due to not being able to find them homes, aren't used to feed the starving.

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    11. Re:Leather belt/jacket/shoes by kj_kabaje · · Score: 1

      I think you may have just missed the point of art altogether...

    12. Re:Leather belt/jacket/shoes by ganjadude · · Score: 1

      Talk to PETA! I am sure they would LOVE to do the right thing and help the homeless eat with all the animals they kill

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    13. Re:Leather belt/jacket/shoes by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      They would also have the right to complain and try to stop me.

      They would have a right to complain. They would have no right to try to stop you.

    14. Re:Leather belt/jacket/shoes by h4rr4r · · Score: 4, Informative

      This is because they might have consumed something making them unfit for food. No one knows what medicines or pollution those stray animals consumed. I also doubt that it would be worth it cost wise. The one off butchering of such an animal would probably cost more than buying commercial meat for the starving. I know that when I have an animal butchered after hunting or when my family buys live animals and has them slaughtered and butchered the cost just for that service is often more than the cost of low quality meat at the market.

    15. Re:Leather belt/jacket/shoes by QuantumLeaper · · Score: 1

      Some animals are tasty and some are not, the non-tasty animals we tend to think of as Pets.

    16. Re:Leather belt/jacket/shoes by rdwulfe · · Score: 2

      I've had sea urchin. Trust me, I will never think of it as a pet... But damn if that wasn't the single most disgusting thing I have EVER put into my mouth. Oh my god, I still shudder.

    17. Re:Leather belt/jacket/shoes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      There's no shortage of food which could feed the starving. It's all in the politics.

    18. Re:Leather belt/jacket/shoes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I disagree slightly, I believe it's more

      "Some animals are cute and others are not, the cute animals we tend to think of as Pets, the ugly ones we think of as dinner."

    19. Re:Leather belt/jacket/shoes by Sperbels · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It is confusing why some animals are protected & their killing outlawed,

      It's really no more complicated than this: Cute animals are protected. They're protected because people get outraged when an animal with an attractive face is harmed, and a politician can create a law protecting them and get some votes. That's all there is too it.

    20. Re:Leather belt/jacket/shoes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      Actually, you fail. It was both roadkill and the artists beloved pet. It was his pet cat, he had it for several years, then it got hit by a car and died, then he turned it into an RC copter. The article from TFS only mentions "roadkill" while not commenting on the pet status, though the articles it links to explicitly mention that it was his cat.

    21. Re:Leather belt/jacket/shoes by strength_of_10_men · · Score: 1

      Do you think the artist can say the same?

      Yes, I think he can say the same. This was a roadkill cat. It would have just rotted away otherwise. At least the pelt is now used as "art" (their description, not mine) as opposed to just rotting meat and fur.

    22. Re:Leather belt/jacket/shoes by sycodon · · Score: 1

      Anyone who doesn't think this is funny as hell has no sense of humor and probably don't get invited to many parties.

      BTW, here is a free cat for the next helicopter.

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    23. Re:Leather belt/jacket/shoes by amoeba1911 · · Score: 1

      No, according to PETA you must not eat the animals, or use their fur, or skin, only kill them and trash the bodies making sure it is a complete waste of an animal's life and corpse.

    24. Re:Leather belt/jacket/shoes by tmosley · · Score: 1

      Fuck that. When I die, that is what I'm going to have them do to me.

    25. Re:Leather belt/jacket/shoes by V.+P.+Winterbuttocks · · Score: 1

      I'm afraid all I can see when I look at that picture is this.

      It's just lucky we humans aren't that tasty. Oh - wait...

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    26. Re:Leather belt/jacket/shoes by tmosley · · Score: 2

      They can't be more delicious than they are cute.

    27. Re:Leather belt/jacket/shoes by damien_kane · · Score: 2

      It is confusing why some animals are protected & their killing outlawed, while other animals get murdered in the billions.

      Red meat, white meat, blue meat, meat-o-fucking-rama. You will eat it. Because not eating meat is a decision. Eating meat is an instinct! Yeah!
      And I know what it's about. "I don't want to eat the meat because I love the animals. I love the animals."
      Hey, I love the animals too. I love my doggy. He's so cute. My fluffy little dog.. He's so cute-
      There's the problem. We only want to save the cute animals, don't we? Yeah.

      Why don't we just have animal auditions.
      Line 'em up one by one and interview them individually.
      "What are you?"
      "I'm an otter."
      "And what do you do?"
      "I swim around on my back and do cute little human things with my hands."
      ...
      "You're free to go."

      "And what are you?"
      "I'm a cow."
      "Get in the fucking truck, ok pal!"
      "But I'm an animal."
      "You're a baseball glove! Get on that truck!"
      "I'm an animal, I have rights!"
      "Yeah, here's yer fucking cousin, get on the fucking truck, pal!"

      We kill the cows to make jackets out of them and then we kill each other for the jackets we made out of the cows.

      Apologies to Denis Leary

    28. Re:Leather belt/jacket/shoes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Rabbits must taste really good.

    29. Re:Leather belt/jacket/shoes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No. That makes no sense. Other people can have an opinion about it even if it wasn't their cat. Their feels about the matter exist whether or not you think they should.

      As for me, I don't care about this. It was already dead.

    30. Re:Leather belt/jacket/shoes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe, just maybe, instead of worrying about the cost of paying a butcher to butcher the cats and give the meat to the starving... TEACH the starving to butcher and prepare their own cat. Rumour has it the cost of a handful of knives is cheaper than paying a ton of butchers full-time pay for years and years on end.

    31. Re:Leather belt/jacket/shoes by theshowmecanuck · · Score: 1

      Tastelessness is in the eye of the beholder.

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    32. Re:Leather belt/jacket/shoes by LordLucless · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Your law may differ, but AFAIK, the law in my country doesn't discriminate based on cuteness on animal. It's illegal to kill certain species because they are endangered. It's illegal to kill animals that belong to another person. It's illegal to kill any animal in painful or inhumane way, or to deliberately injure any animal without good reason.

      There might be more public outrage or political posturing when it's a cute penguin that gets kicked to death, but the law doesn't distinguish between animals on that basis.

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    33. Re:Leather belt/jacket/shoes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    34. Re:Leather belt/jacket/shoes by CanHasDIY · · Score: 4, Interesting

      No, according to PETA you must not eat the animals, or use their fur, or skin, only kill them and trash the bodies making sure it is a complete waste of an animal's life and corpse.

      PETA is the same group that tries to make it seem like my well-fed, mostly-indoor, spoiled-to-hell pets are enslaved. Obviously whoever came up with that concept has never belonged to a cat.

      Every time I come across that particular group of terrorists (yes, they are terrorists), I make it a point to outline my wife's plan to turn our 2 cats into a pair of mittens and socks, respectively, once they pass away.

      Seriously, I do that. Fuckers hate me, and the feeling is mutual.

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    35. Re:Leather belt/jacket/shoes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      who modded this insightful??? wtf dumb mods

    36. Re:Leather belt/jacket/shoes by Razgorov+Prikazka · · Score: 2

      Correct. I once had a colleague and she was carrying the whole vegan stuff rather far.
      She told me exactly this, it was (ihho) unimportant what animal was killed, it was bad.
      Me> Any animal?
      She> Yeah, any animal.
      Me> But you come to work by bus right?
      She> Yes, that is better for <insert long tedious boring co2/global warming story here>...
      Me> Have you seen all the little bug-corpses on the grill? Is that really what is in your dictionary as cool? It is in mine as bug-holocaust.
      From that day on she went by bicycle. Making a 15 minute bustrip into an hour long bicycle ride :-D
      I just love those crazy women!

      To stay on-topic: Cool cat! I want 1 2 !

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    37. Re:Leather belt/jacket/shoes by uniquename72 · · Score: 2

      Few animals are cuter than rabbits and squirrels, which you are free to eat whenever you like. Apparently there's more to it than you think.

    38. Re:Leather belt/jacket/shoes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I fucking LOVE the fact that this comment has been modded +5 Insightful.

    39. Re:Leather belt/jacket/shoes by CCarrot · · Score: 1

      I disagree slightly, I believe it's more

      "Some animals are cute and others are not, the cute animals we tend to think of as Pets, the ugly ones we think of as dinner."

      Yet we eat veal, and keep pigs as pets...heck, my mom even had a full-grown cow for a pet growing up. The thing would follow her around everywhere, even trying to come in the house, then sticking her head in the kitchen window for scratches when she was chased back outside. Yep, we're just self-contradictory creatures all around.

      I'm guessing it's more to do with what options you have available. If you're starving, that puppy over there starts looking a lot less cute and a lot more delicious...on the other hand, if you don't ever have to butcher your meat yourself, just pick it up in tasty ready-to-barbeque shapes, it's a bit too easy to disassociate from the source. Neither way is optimal.

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    40. Re:Leather belt/jacket/shoes by j00r0m4nc3r · · Score: 2

      the idea is that they are property, like slaves were property, which is true, even if you take good care of your cat. you can take your cat to the vet anytime you want and have it killed, which you can't do with your kids or in-laws. to be legally able to destroy something is what defines "property" IMO. whether or not that means anything to any given person is up to them, but the fact remains that pets are not "free" entities. we talk a good talk about freedom and how important it is, and how we fight for freedom, blah, blah, but ultimately there is a double-standard there between the animals kingdom and humans. we are really just glorified self-important apes, and we really don't regard other animals with much esteem or respect... PETA might have some flawed methodologies and screwball members, but i think their message is right, on the whole. humans have really taken the exploitation of animals to deplorable levels..

    41. Re:Leather belt/jacket/shoes by jasonq · · Score: 0

      I had one look at it and... I'm not getting any sleep tonight. Not even Alien scared the shit out of me like that cat!

    42. Re:Leather belt/jacket/shoes by flyneye · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Think of the historical uses of dead animals. Battlewear skull helms. Femur clubs, jawbone clubs.Costumery to frighten the opponent in battle. Clothes, tools, fertilizer,food,games, the dead animal has been with us through war and peace throughout the ages. Let's hope that artists like Jansen or Survival Research Laboratories continue to show the world the value of recycling ANY dead animal. In the media we have Disney propaganda that involves a cartoon armadillo recently run over, yet able to talk. The Beverly Hillbillies ate grannys "road kill stew" and look how Ellie Mae and Jethro turned out! In the beautiful work of art " Un Chien Andalou" by Dali and Bunuel, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xH2PV_S4QI we see manifestation of Dalis obsession with rotting asses, which appear in later paintings and sketches. Let us celebrate dead animals and teach the children the fascination and value of lifes end product.

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    43. Re:Leather belt/jacket/shoes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lol, yeah according to PETA , Kansas City, is supposed to erect a monument to a semi-trailer load of cattle that went over an embankment, killing and maiming most of them. Peta is good at spending Kansas Citys money. Aging brainrotten hippy organizations surely have a better grip on where you should spend your money than you do. We should all just send all the animals to heaven so no one can mistreat them. First we kill the cattle. We should allow omnivores to recycle them to fertilizer because Nature trumps frybot deadheads any day for true GREEN living. Then we work on all the other animals made of meat, tasty ones first.
      We could rename PETA to People Eating Tasty Animals as God obviously intended, because then it is in the animals best interest. Silly hippies, it's becoming more and more appearant that smoking banana peels leads to Alsheimers. Well at least if we don't get them killed in time, Gilda says we should take care of the problem another way . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKxjBsO-Bvk

    44. Re:Leather belt/jacket/shoes by Genda · · Score: 1

      Actually the ugly one's we think of as pests... flies, cockroaches, rats, Congressmen... The ones we think of as food is a more of a cultural thing. For instance in China, if it doesn't eat you first and/or say "Ni Hau", its pretty much fair game. In parts of Africa, warthog rectum is considered a taste treat (that or they're still laughing their asses off that they got Anthony Bourdain to choke one down.) I've had sea urchin (Uni to the Japanese.) I can completely understand why someone would go EEeewww. I didn't. In fact I thought it was pretty great, and among foodies its considered the Foie gras of the sea, a couple hundred million Japanese can't all be wrong :-)

      I also like a Tobi-Tama, a sushi cup filled with Tobiko (sunfish roe) and with a quail egg yolk delicate balanced on the very top. I like this even better when its sitting on a big fat slab of Hamachi (yellowtail), this pretty much is my idea of the pinnacle of sushi. I'll eat soft-shelled crab, while watching someone roast and munch a tarantula (a very similar large arthropod) makes my stomach do backwards flip-flops (it doesn't help that I'm slightly arachnophobia.)

      I guess the point is that as long as you're not cooking from the Jeffrey Dahmer book of Cuisine, food is a personal thing and like all personal choices one should stop going around shoving one's personal choices down other people's throats, or be prepared to suffer the consequences of said behavior.

    45. Re:Leather belt/jacket/shoes by Genda · · Score: 1

      Look up the definition of "Long Pig". Its the other, other white meat! Put's a whole different spin on "I want my baby back, baby back, baby back ribs..." Eeeww I just grossed myself out.

    46. Re:Leather belt/jacket/shoes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd have used a human corpse and see if the people who don't think this is wrong are still ok with the idea.

    47. Re:Leather belt/jacket/shoes by RodBee · · Score: 2

      I fail to see why we should regard other species the same way we do to ourselves.

      I'm not trying to be offensive here, I really don't get it. Why should we value another species as the same as ours? It just doesn't makes sense to me. And this would open the craziest precedents: Should ants and termites pay for land taxes and be prosecuted for property damage? Should cows be allowed to have property? Should a dog be represented by a lawyer on court if he bites someone?

      So yes, I'm very confused about these subjects, and even more so with the PETA craze.

    48. Re:Leather belt/jacket/shoes by goodgod43 · · Score: 1

      Herbivores are food. Carnivores are pets. Simple as that.

      I let my children keep herbivores as pets, but they are really just a potential food supply.

      Even the turtle.

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    49. Re:Leather belt/jacket/shoes by Handover+Phist · · Score: 1

      It really depends on how tasty and easily kept they are. Gorillas are less numerous that cows for herding reasons.

    50. Re:Leather belt/jacket/shoes by samoanbiscuit · · Score: 1

      Sea urchins taste awesome you insenstive clod! Rich, salty and slightly disturbing, they go well with a slice or lemon and chillies (almost everything that comes out of the sea goes well with those things though). Don't eat them while you're drinking though, the slightly unsettling texture gets plenty unsettling when drunk and slightly nauseous.

    51. Re:Leather belt/jacket/shoes by ghn · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I "free" my cat every eff'ing morning and guess what, that stupid slave just comes back all the time. What a stupid slave, doesn't even understand he can just run away and go free. I understand your PETA point in the scope of farm animals.. but cats? really? I am the cat's stupid slave, trust me..

    52. Re:Leather belt/jacket/shoes by DarwinSurvivor · · Score: 1

      And watch the number of "missing" cats in the area skyrocket!

    53. Re:Leather belt/jacket/shoes by vegiVamp · · Score: 1

      Excellent. I love explaining to veg*ians how that excellent wine they're so fond of is most likely cleared with egg whites or gelatine. The little things are what makes life worth living :-)

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    54. Re:Leather belt/jacket/shoes by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 1

      > I fail to see why we should regard other species the same way we do to ourselves.
      Because it reflects how you view yourself and is a slippery-slope to xenophobia. If you have no respect for another life form why should your life be respected? How would you like it if a superior life form used YOU as mere food?

      We are stewards for this planet -- the environment includes animals. If you wish to treat them like mere things instead of conscious lifeforms that feel pain, etc. you are of course free to do that, just be aware of the consequences for doing so. Remaining ignorant of the different levels of consciousness tells people that you are just another dumb animal higher up in the food chain. When you exercise your choice in doing the least harm to all (living) things that shows great wisdom and self respect.

      > Should ants and termites pay for land taxes and be prosecuted for property damage?
      Uh, you DO realize that animals have been around for MILLIONS of years and do not bother with the primitive concept of money, right?

    55. Re:Leather belt/jacket/shoes by petman · · Score: 1

      How would you like it if a superior life form used YOU as mere food?

      One day I will die and my flesh will become food for maggots, earthworm and/or I don't know what else. Should I have a problem with that?

    56. Re:Leather belt/jacket/shoes by Talderas · · Score: 1

      Cows are too stupid to live. Seriously. They have no other purpose than to feed humans.

      Set 100 cows free and by the end of the first winter you'll have 0 free cows.

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    57. Re:Leather belt/jacket/shoes by Talderas · · Score: 1

      Most* animals lack the capacity to understand and, more importantly, to exercise the very notion of freedom. Animals make their decisions on emotions. Humans rationalize more often than rely on emotion. It is the ability that rise past the emotions and rationalize that forms the core of our capacity to exercise freedom. Freedom is not just freedom from the will of others but also the freedom of your own will. It is in the latter that lies the fact that most* animals can never be free entities. Behaving based on instincts and emotions is not exercising freedom, you're still chained by yourself. It's only be acting outside of our emotions and instincts as well as outside the ethical norms held by the majority that you can exercise freedom.

      It is something that people like PETA fail to recognize. They truss themselves up in all this glorified language and attempt to be holier than though when I would almost bet that as you start to peel away the layers you'll find that their movement is based on nothing but emotion. In fact, their common methods of getting people to approve of their cause by invoking emotions.

      * Most in this sense is being used to avoid an absolute statement rather than an indication that there are animals that have the capacity.

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    58. Re:Leather belt/jacket/shoes by Talderas · · Score: 1

      There's a term for that....

      Carrion.

      That cat would have gone through a couple stages of feeding other entities.

      You have the carrion feeders which will eat some of the meat.
      You have the flies which lay eggs in the carrion which hatch into maggots which eat their way out to become more disgusting flies.
      You have the bacteria, molds, and fungus which start to grow and further decompose the carrion until there's nothing left besides bones.

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    59. Re:Leather belt/jacket/shoes by V.+P.+Winterbuttocks · · Score: 1

      Other, other white meat? More like the original white meat. Just avoid the liver and brain, I hear... brain due to prions, and liver because we humans tend to kick our liver's ass and they accumulate toxins - you really don't want to eat all that shit.

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    60. Re:Leather belt/jacket/shoes by RodBee · · Score: 2

      Some things about it here: I don't see how not wanting to respect a cockroach makes me a xenophobe. Really, that line of thinking made no sense whatsoever. Like I said, I don't treat anther species like mine (actually, nobody does), also, I won't treat my own species like another. The primary failure with this argument is that it assumes something wrong about me, and one that doesn't even makes sense!

      OK, who made us "stewards of this planet"? God? I don't believe in gods, you'll have to do better. And then again, you assume something I never said I did: That I don't treat other animals as sensitive, conscious creatures who can feel things. Please, go to parent; I never said that. I said I don't treat them like humans. Because they are not. We won't understand some animals' concepts (because first and foremost we lack some ways to sense the environment that they have, and they lack senses that we have) and they won't understand most of our ways an values.

      About ans and taxes, I meant it literally. If you treat animals like humans, they should have the same rights and be subject of the same laws as us. Or you think they only should have the rights and their responsibilities should be transferred to their.... well, in this possibility it's not possible to use "owner", so let's say "partner"? Because that's not equal treatment; animals would be superior to us.

      And for last, if a "superior" (I don't know what consists of "superior" here, really) species used us for food, I'm pretty sure that what I feel about it wouldn't have the least importance. I'd be foodstuff. If I knew I would be killed for food, I would probably hope for a long life and a quick death.

    61. Re:Leather belt/jacket/shoes by Nyder · · Score: 1

      >>>So what confuses you here?

      Some politician somewhere will try to outlaw the stuffing of cats. (And then go stuff dead cow flesh into his mouth while he walks-round in dead cow skin.) It is confusing why some animals are protected & their killing outlawed, while other animals get murdered in the billions.

      Cats have a better union.

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    62. Re:Leather belt/jacket/shoes by CanHasDIY · · Score: 1

      ...pets are not "free" entities.

      Bullshit, my pets enjoy more freedom than you or I ever will, especially the cats. Contrary to the PETA terrorists propaganda, being considered property in a legal sense does not equate to slavery; in fact, in this case it's an advantage - a pet is property, and thus is protected under the various property laws. Ferals do not enjoy such legal protection, and in fact are rounded up and destroyed regularly.

      we talk a good talk about freedom and how important it is, and how we fight for freedom, blah, blah, but ultimately there is a double-standard there between the animals kingdom and humans.

      Yea, no shit there's a double standard. Pretty obvious reason why, too.

      Tell you what - the day my cats get jobs and start contributing to the household income, we can have a frank discussion about their "freedom." Until that day, I guess they'll be forced to suffer under my tyrannical rule of always-full food dishes, all the kitty-centric entertainment they could ever possibly desire, and total freedom to traverse the neighborhood as they see fit. Those poor, poor, tortured beasts...

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    63. Re:Leather belt/jacket/shoes by rs79 · · Score: 1

      That's because they're domesticated animals - we created them. There's no such thing as a "wild" dairy or beef cow. What there is is the cape buffalo, as close as we get to the ancestor of a cow. These are the most vicious mean spirited bastards in Africa, and hold a grudge and kill more people than anything this side of hippos. Oh and they stalk hunters and have incredibly strong bony head protection so if you shoot it you'd damn well better kill it on the first go.

      Cows are just captive animals that eat and sleep and not much else Sort of like married men, except cows to breed well in captivity.

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    64. Re:Leather belt/jacket/shoes by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 1

      > : I don't see how not wanting to respect a cockroach makes me a xenophobe.
      *whoosh* You _completely_ missed the point. Any ideology taken to an extreme is never a good idea.

      There is a time and a place to kill the little bastards (say if they are invading your home), and a time and a place to respect the uniqueness of how each animals helps the ecosystem (say when they help decompose dead things.)

      > The primary failure with this argument is that it assumes something wrong about me,
      Correct. You have a lack of awareness of what constitutes life and how to respect it. The fact that you asked a question is proof that it is not an assumption.

      > and one that doesn't even makes sense!
      Because you fail to see how everything is connected; How you treat others (especially lower life forms) demonstrates how well you understand that animals and plants have their own conscious and how by interacting with it at a deeper level you raise your own.

      > who made us "stewards of this planet"? God?
      Please show me where I mentioned "God" ? The fact remains that it is a fact. Polluting the sky and water is immaturity and unsustainable. You are course to teat the earth as your literal "dumping ground", but as people grow up, most realize we have a responsibility to look after our home.

      > you assume something I never said I did: That I don't treat other animals as sensitive,
      I was providing an answer to your question "I fail to see why we should regard other species the same way we do to ourselves."
      If you don't like the answer then you need to ask yourself "Why?"

      The fact that you are unable to comprehend the answer is because you lack the awareness about the responsibility to look after the planet (animals and plants) by leaving it in a better state then we found it demonstrates my point succinctly. Extending the concept to plants: Does that mean we can't cut down trees? Of course not; lumber provides some very good benefits. Raping mother earth by clear cutting does not. Are you able to comprehend the contrast of the two paradigms?

      Again, I'll re-iterate my first point: " Any ideology taken to an extreme is never a good idea."

      Another example to help you "get it":
      Over-hunting certain animals to the point the extinction (such as the classic Bison) demonstrates man's greed and lack of awareness. I am not saying killing animals is wrong, as the ignorant PETAs and Vegans like to spout off -- the CRUX of my point I am saying "Are you aware of how you treat others?" If no, why not? You implicitly asked "Why should I be?" You are correct I did a poor job initially answering this; I have corrected this oversight. Again I will summarize:

      How (well) you treat others (especially lower life forms) demonstrates how well you understand that animals and plants have their own conscious and how by interacting with it at a deeper level you raise your own.

      If you find this concept difficult to understand, don't worry, you're in the same boat with almost everyone else. If you truly wish to understand this rather cryptic statement I will give this advice:

      • If you take the premise that EVERYTHING is conscious, see where it takes you.

      I'm not saying you have to accept this fact -- but think about both sides of what it means to completely reject this premise AND explore what it means to completely accept this radical premise.

      > You won't understand some animals' concepts
      FTFY. Just because _you_ don't understand some animal concepts does not infer that everyone is equally ignorant.

      > Or you think they only should have the rights and their responsibilities should be transferred
      You keep talking about this non-existent thing called "rights". Rights only exist when you can enforce them. Does that mean they are a bad thing? Of course not, they provide a good foundation to build upon; But just because animals have no rights in context of humans, doesn't mea

    65. Re:Leather belt/jacket/shoes by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      PETA is the same group that tries to make it seem like my well-fed, mostly-indoor, spoiled-to-hell pets are enslaved. [yahoo.com] Obviously whoever came up with that concept has never belonged to a cat. Every time I come across that particular group of terrorists (yes, they are terrorists), I make it a point to outline my wife's plan to turn our 2 cats into a pair of mittens and socks, respectively, once they pass away.

      I see what you did there. You hate PETA, so you do your best to emulate them......

      You use the same logic as a woman I know who called anyone who was sexist a "terrorist". I don't like them, so they are terrorists!

      I think that PETA is a bunch of bleeding hemorrhoids. You shouldn't emulate them, even if in opposition. Because you sound like them, just opposite.

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    66. Re:Leather belt/jacket/shoes by CanHasDIY · · Score: 1

      You obviously have not been exposed to PETAs work. Check out one of those DVD's they hand out at concerts and other events, then try to tell me they don't use fear and lies, i.e., terrorism, to push their agenda.

      Yes, I use the dictionary definition of 'terrorist.' Not a popular definition, but the only correct one.

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    67. Re:Leather belt/jacket/shoes by celotil · · Score: 1

      Who'd like a delicious bowl of "Brown"?

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    68. Re:Leather belt/jacket/shoes by tmosley · · Score: 1

      They do actually. I would say that rabbit meat is probably the most tasty of any mammal.

    69. Re:Leather belt/jacket/shoes by j00r0m4nc3r · · Score: 1

      One day I will die and my flesh will become food for maggots, earthworm and/or I don't know what else. Should I have a problem with that?

      You might if the worms corralled you into a little pen, deprived you of all freedoms, fattened you up, and then killed you inhumanely for no other reason than they like the taste of human better than vegetables...

    70. Re:Leather belt/jacket/shoes by j00r0m4nc3r · · Score: 1

      Bullshit, my pets enjoy more freedom than you or I ever will, especially the cats.

      Right. So you allow your cats to procreate at their own whim? Or maybe not, because you chose to surgically remove their reproductive organs... This is certainly not something the cat had any say in. You can argue that "it's for their own good" or whatever, but I'm sure people thought the same thing about the slaves they brought over to America from Africa. I mean, who wouldn't want to live in America, the land of the brave? Gotta be better than Africa, right? Sure, you'll have to harvest my barley and I guess I won't pay you anything and maybe I'll whip you if you misbehave, but at least I'll shelter you. Maybe I'll decide for you what food you get to eat, keep your food dish full of some processed crap that isn't even fit for human consumption. Oh, and I'll decide for you when it's time for you to die. Sounds like freedom to me.

    71. Re:Leather belt/jacket/shoes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If that's what freedom is, I'm less free than his cats.

    72. Re:Leather belt/jacket/shoes by CanHasDIY · · Score: 1

      Bullshit, my pets enjoy more freedom than you or I ever will, especially the cats. Right. So you allow your cats to procreate at their own whim? Or maybe not, because you chose to surgically remove their reproductive organs... This is certainly not something the cat had any say in.

      Oh, fuck you. You're obviously one of those bleeding-heart types that doesn't think shit through - i.e., bitching about spaying/neutering pets. Yea, how terrible of me to want to keep the pet population under control, because I'm sick of walking into animal shelters (which I would wager I contribute far more time and finances to helping than your selfish ass) overflowing with castoffs from pricks like you who refuse to neuter their animals.

      Yea, what a monster I am.

      You can argue that "it's for their own good" or whatever, but I'm sure people thought the same thing about the slaves they brought over to America from Africa. I mean, who wouldn't want to live in America, the land of the brave? Gotta be better than Africa, right? Sure, you'll have to harvest my barley and I guess I won't pay you anything and maybe I'll whip you if you misbehave, but at least I'll shelter you. Maybe I'll decide for you what food you get to eat, keep your food dish full of some processed crap that isn't even fit for human consumption. Oh, and I'll decide for you when it's time for you to die. Sounds like freedom to me.

      Fuck your fallacy of equivocation, too. Comparing pet ownership to human ownership? Really? Calling that a stretch is giving too much credit.

      Tell you what, the day my horribly coddled kitties start singing spirituals about the oppression of never having to worry about their next meal and a warm, dry, safe place to sleep, I'll consider not feeding them or showing them love anymore. That's what you're aiming for, right? Maybe you want me to let them go feral so Animal Control can kidnap and execute them? How compassionate.


      I'm all for treating animals with respect, but people like you take it entirely too fucking far, and sadly, I'm all out of fucks to give.

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  2. heavy by X0563511 · · Score: 2

    Looks heavy, but it does bring up a question:

    Why is it that these UAVs are always naked? Why not build a very simple lightweight frame to stretch some nylon over or something? Give it some kind of a flashy skin.

    Do it right and it might help flight in moving air (since the air would just pass around, instead of pushing against the components)

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    1. Re:heavy by QuasiSteve · · Score: 3, Informative

      Why is it that these UAVs are always naked?

      Because in general you want to avoid putting on extra unneeded weight.

      Do it right and it might help flight in moving air (since the air would just pass around, instead of pushing against the components)

      The airstream from the rotors itself already hits barely anything (i.e. the struts). I'd guess you could get some better airflow depending on the shape of those struts, but adding a skin between the struts wouldn't help much..in fact, it would make it easier for the wind to 'catch' it.

      Toy quadcopters that you can get off-the-shelf for cheap (but usually have poor gyros and are too small to handle themselves in even a slight breeze) do typically have more of a a body, though.

    2. Re:heavy by DemonGenius · · Score: 1

      This would definitely make a confusing enough drone to nonplus those terrorists enough to delay their actions for some time. I'm sure as hell would stare at this thing slack-jawed for a bit in the absence of any relevant context as to what I'm staring at.

    3. Re:heavy by NotQuiteReal · · Score: 1

      Heh, confusion is one thing, but you want some "art" to really rile things up, I am sure you could do an Islamic themed variation on some of the work of Serrano that would do the trick.

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    4. Re:heavy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So first post talks about drones, second post equates drones to counter-terrorism, and third post equates terrorists to Islamists. You guys aren't brain-washed one bit, nope... What a sad lot.

    5. Re:heavy by X0563511 · · Score: 1

      Why is it that these UAVs are always naked?

      Because in general you want to avoid putting on extra unneeded weight.

      Do it right and it might help flight in moving air (since the air would just pass around, instead of pushing against the components)

      The airstream from the rotors itself already hits barely anything (i.e. the struts). I'd guess you could get some better airflow depending on the shape of those struts, but adding a skin between the struts wouldn't help much..in fact, it would make it easier for the wind to 'catch' it.

      Toy quadcopters that you can get off-the-shelf for cheap (but usually have poor gyros and are too small to handle themselves in even a slight breeze) do typically have more of a a body, though.

      Well, I know it would add weight, but a thin stretched skin of say, cheesecloth weighs next to nothing, and I would say the teeny structure you'd have to add to keep it from "collapsing" (because it's stretched) would not add much more.

      As well, I didn't mean the truss rods, i meant the central body where all the electronics, batteries etc are - something for breezes etc to push against.

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    6. Re:heavy by QuasiSteve · · Score: 1

      Ahhhh you meant the hub, okay. I'm not sure why some keep them bare. A small dome is actually advantageous for a number of reasons - primarily as a protection against the elements and the odd crash ( they do happen :) ). Wind-wise I'm not sure which is actually better. While various electronic components can seem like obstacles, they're usually quite small with a lot empty space between them. A dome is definitely a greater surface.

      The few people who have built quad copters for semi-professional use here (mostly photography) all have domes of some sort on them (styrofoam hemisphere, a plastic cup that once housed snackfood, that sort of thing). The professional rigs I've seen all have domes or dome options as well. The hobbyist rigs, DIY/kits, etc. though do usually come bare and I guess their users don't see much need for the dome and leave them 'as is'.

      You can actually compare this to Arduino projects and, more recently, Raspberry Pi. A lot of people will happily build something with it.. and then just leave it bare. No enclosures whatsoever. For the Raspberry Pi there are some enclosures available now, and people are buying them - so I guess it might be an aversion to messing with materials themselves.. or just laziness.

    7. Re:heavy by X0563511 · · Score: 1

      I'd say laziness or just ignorance. Getting a good looking well fitting enclosure is kind of annoying if one doesn't know where to look.

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    8. Re:heavy by QuasiSteve · · Score: 1

      Well, I know that for myself it's mostly lack of skill on one hand (I'm not that great at woodworking), lack of materials on the other (how would I bend perspex here? Lathe metal?), and lack of funds on yet another (I could have things 3D printed, but that's still expensive).

      But I'm working on changing all that via.. 1. practice, practice, practice, 2. There's a 'makershed' type place within 10 miles, 3. Invested in my own 3D printer, due to arrive soon.. coarse resolution but that's usually all I need.

      But yeah, it's a common problem that people want 'nice' enclosures, but don't know how to get that done - while having a PCB fabbed and populated (or soldering it themselves), or putting together a kit, is easy enough. Sadly, quality enclosures are expensive.. either 3D print (as mentioned) or injection molded (the mold being the expensive part). Generic (rectangular) enclosures on the other hand have weird sizes that are either just too small or way too big.

  3. I can't decide... by eagee · · Score: 3, Funny

    Is cat-copter adorable, or disturbing?

    1. Re:I can't decide... by wolfsdaughter · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Disturbing :(

      Doing things like shows lack of empathy, and is I believe is disrespectful to life.

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    2. Re:I can't decide... by spidercoz · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Didn't realize the dead have feelings with which to empathize. And since when has humanity possessed any respect for life? Only when it serves an agenda.

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    3. Re:I can't decide... by strength_of_10_men · · Score: 2

      Lord help me, as much as I love my kitty, even I had to LOL at this.

      I think it's the expression on the helicat's face more than anything else.

    4. Re:I can't decide... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Extermely disturbing to birds. To cats, the stuff of dreams.

    5. Re:I can't decide... by ZeroSumHappiness · · Score: 1

      I actually brought this up at lunch today and all of my coworkers were very much in the "disturbing" camp. I was surprised since I find it rather interesting. I guess I really am that weird.

    6. Re:I can't decide... by Nutria · · Score: 1

      And since when has humanity possessed any respect for life?

      It's situational: civilization doesn't progress far w/o "local" respect for human life, and some disrespect for "foreign" human life is partly good at unifying the tribe.

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    7. Re:I can't decide... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Indifference to the suffering of others indicates psychopathy, narcissism, or sadism.

    8. Re:I can't decide... by Megane · · Score: 4, Informative

      It's adorasturbing. I think it's important to know that the cat died a natural death and that the decision was made afterward. Now the cat can continue to chase birds after death. And the determined look on its face is rather awesome.

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    9. Re:I can't decide... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Replace a dead cat with a human cadaver. Is it still difficult to differentiate between disturbing and adorable?

      For myself, this is disturbing. It makes a mockery of creature, whether it is alive or dead. It's like taking a head of a murder victim, sticking it on a pole and calling it art. Sure, maybe the victim doesn't care anymore, but the entire display is a mockery of life.

      Heck, I think this could be a good test to see if someone is a psychopath. A psychopath would definitely not find anything wrong with this usage of a "cat".

    10. Re:I can't decide... by ganjadude · · Score: 1

      as long as the human wasnt killed fore the sake of the "art" than no, it is no different, It would also be no different than the museum in NYC that has many human bodies on display in different stages of "being mutilated".....in the name of science that is

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    11. Re:I can't decide... by eagee · · Score: 2

      So what happens at funeral homes to people is somehow better than this? (E.g. Squishing our interal organs like mashed potatoes to prevent bloat, replacing all our fluids with toxic preservatives, and then burying us under 6 feet of clay and dirt). Respect is subjective, I would totally dig the idea of being turned into a helicopter after I die.

    12. Re:I can't decide... by poity · · Score: 1

      And since when has humanity possessed any respect for life?

      I know misanthropy is hip among the cool kids, but we need to realize that humanity is a complex entity and its character not easily judged or dismissed like this. There is an entire spectrum from compassionate to cruel. If you yourself have respect for life, then it cannot be said that humanity has no respect for life.

      In any case, I think there is a line that divides using a corpse to serve the living, and using a corpse to create whimsicality. If one cannot give a corpse a higher purpose, then it's best to leave it alone.

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    13. Re:I can't decide... by number11 · · Score: 1

      Disturbing :(

      Doing things like shows lack of empathy, and is I believe is disrespectful to life.

      Oh come on. But you don't think wrapping your feet in parts of dead animals and walking on them is disrespectful to life? It's not necessity because (depending on your local climate) you could go barefoot, or wear plastic or rubber shoes, or wooden clogs. There are some vegetarians who take the "pro-life" stance, and don't use leather etc. I give them high marks for integrity and consistency, though they are often pretty flakey otherwise.

      If I'm ever roadkill, I wanna be reincarnated as a quadracopter. Cuz it's the only way I'm likely to be taken up to a home in the sky.

    14. Re:I can't decide... by StikyPad · · Score: 1

      I'd love to see a version with it baring its teeth. Something like this.

    15. Re:I can't decide... by wolfsdaughter · · Score: 1

      And how do you think having someone do that to your body after you're dead would affect other people?

      (Yes I think what happens for funerals is completely different. I think funerals are for the living not for the dead - it's a time set aside for people to come together to say goodbye.)

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    16. Re:I can't decide... by CanHasDIY · · Score: 1

      And since when has humanity possessed any respect for life?

      In any case, I think there is a line that divides using a corpse to serve the living, and using a corpse to create whimsicality. If one cannot give a corpse a higher purpose, then it's best to leave it alone.

      So... not a Tim Burton fan, I take it?

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    17. Re:I can't decide... by Americano · · Score: 0

      It would also be no different than the museum in NYC that has many human bodies on display in different stages of "being mutilated".....in the name of science that is

      There's a world of difference. I presume you're talking about the "BODIES: The exhibition" display?

      The BODIES museum:
      1) uses bodies which are donated to science, through a conscious decision by the owner of the body;
      2) Has an actual educational purpose which specifically requires the use of human bodies and organs - to teach about human anatomy.

      The Catcopter:
      1) Takes somebody's pet, or a feral animal that was killed "somehow"; and
      2) turns it into a fucking RC toy.

      There is no "educational value" to using a body in this way. If the BODIES museum strapped jetpacks on the corpses and launched them around New York and called it "art," then you might be right that there's "no difference." But since one has an educational purpose that is actually served by the use of donor bodies, and one is a toy where the use of the body is simply intended to be "cute" "funny" or "provocative," I'd say anybody who can't see a pretty clear difference between the two should probably spend a little quiet time reflecting on what intrinsic flaw they possess that makes them incapable of seeing a difference.

    18. Re:I can't decide... by CanHasDIY · · Score: 1

      Respect is subjective, I would totally dig the idea of being turned into a helicopter after I die.

      I second that, especially if my estate uses my cadaver-copter to harass those I disliked in life... maybe not even the whole body, just a few choice sections...


      It's a bird!
      It's a plane!
      It's... Oh, shit, it's a flying asshole! And it's COMING RIGHT FOR US!!!

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    19. Re:I can't decide... by poity · · Score: 1

      Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Burton's ever used real corpses.

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    20. Re:I can't decide... by wolfsdaughter · · Score: 1

      I have no problem with using leather, I eat meat (although I buy organic and grassfed) , I have no problems with sustenance hunting - but I do have issues with trophy hunting or sport killing.

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    21. Re:I can't decide... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But it isn't alive anymore. If you want to respect life protect the live animals from dying to become our food. Posted while sitting on streched dead animal skin having just eaten a nice piece of dead baby cow, in a bit I'll go outside to take a little walk but not after stuffing my feed into yet another piece of animal skin.

    22. Re:I can't decide... by Beardo+the+Bearded · · Score: 1

      I'm vegan and I find this thing hilarious.

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    23. Re:I can't decide... by darkshadow88 · · Score: 5, Funny

      If one cannot give a corpse a higher purpose, then it's best to leave it alone.

      The catcopter does give the corpse a higher purpose--about 5 feet in the picture and probably much higher if taken outside.

    24. Re:I can't decide... by ganjadude · · Score: 1

      First off, I dont fully disagree with you on the difference

      second of all, if the XXX was killed naturally, than personally I dont care. Its dead, If the owner of the cat allowed it, or if it was a wild animal and was roadkill, or a human who gave consent to be done up that way. something that is dead, is dead. and unless someone personally knew said organism, and knows said organism did not want YYY to happen to them, no one should be bitching

      On a side note, I wonder how many people who have no problem with the feces and piss religious "art" are in an uproar about this because its a cute fuzzy animal.....

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    25. Re:I can't decide... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "There is no "educational value" to using a body in this way. "

      I call BS. This teaches people to not take things so seriously. It also poses all sorts of interesting questions about what defines the value of a creature (humans included) and forces us to consider whether our rituals for handling corpses serve us or the "owner of the body".

    26. Re:I can't decide... by liquidsin · · Score: 1

      it was the artist's own pet, and it died after getting hit by a car. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2154283/Cats-away-Artist-turns-dead-pet-flying-helicopter-killed-car.html . why are you so mad? outside of the artistic value (which is subjective, so i'll leave that up to you to discover on your own) have you never seen someone have a beloved pet stuffed and posed before? maybe it makes him happy to still have his friend around. personally, i think it's tasteless to dig a ditch to dispose of a corpse like so many people do these days, and i'd much rather be turned into beautiful art a la the 'bodies' exhibit (again, subjectively speaking, i'd say it's far more artistic than educational). but hey, to each his own i guess.

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    27. Re:I can't decide... by VON-MAN · · Score: 1
      question:

      Is cat-copter adorable, or disturbing?

      of course someone will find it:

      Disturbing :( Doing things like shows lack of empathy, and is I believe is disrespectful to life.

      but, then again:

      Didn't realize the dead have feelings with which to empathize.

      Now, there you go! All kinds of interesting observations and discussions, sparked by some simple art. That can a _function_ of art.
      I must say, I find it somewhat amusing, a catcopter, but how people respond to stuff like this, now that's interesting.

    28. Re:I can't decide... by CanHasDIY · · Score: 1

      Indifference to the suffering of others indicates psychopathy, narcissism, or sadism.

      What't that got to do with repurposing roadkill?

      You can't honestly believe that a dead thing is capable of suffering, so I'm guessing this is nothing but an emotional screed derived from a lifetime of superstition.

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    29. Re:I can't decide... by CanHasDIY · · Score: 1

      Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Burton's ever used real corpses.

      I see, so if this artist had used a fake cat that looks exactly like a real one, there would be no issue? Somehow I doubt it...

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    30. Re:I can't decide... by dgatwood · · Score: 1

      Is cat-copter adorable, or disturbing?

      Can't it be both? Most art is.

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    31. Re:I can't decide... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't believe the dead feel anything - it's the living who feel and suffer, and indifference to _that_ indicates psychosis.

    32. Re:I can't decide... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am not sure if it is adorable disturbing or disturbingly adorable. :D

    33. Re:I can't decide... by 19thNervousBreakdown · · Score: 2

      And how do you think having someone do that to your body after you're dead would affect other people?

      My friends who knew me well would laugh their asses off that I got one last joke in, and probably take turns crashing me into things until I was too beat up to fly. 10,000 bonus points if they think to have my mouth gaping wide open so they can make me dive-bomb things and end up with an unnaturally wide broken-toothed grin after flying into a couple brick walls in downtown traffic. Extra bonus points for mounting my head on a bearing so it can spin slowly.

      Random idiots would get all offended that somebody did something to my corpse that I would absolutely love. If they found out that I would have loved it, they'd posthumously hate me for not hating that turning my corpse into a helicopter and doing hilarious things with it made my friends laugh with me one last time.

      I see absolutely no downside here.

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    34. Re:I can't decide... by HapSlappy_2222 · · Score: 3, Funny

      I think "adorasturbing" would be if a regular old cat crashed into a regular old copter, and this abomination happened. At best, this is only awwwstonishing.

    35. Re:I can't decide... by mspohr · · Score: 1

      I think it's LOL funny!

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    36. Re:I can't decide... by X0563511 · · Score: 1

      Yep. Because using a real corpse is disrespectful of it's former occupant (or at least the memory of it, if you don't believe there was an occupant)

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    37. Re:I can't decide... by chmod+a+x+mojo · · Score: 1

      Hows this any different?

      Dude can either stuff his dead cat in a box and throw dirt on it, then forget about it. OR

      He can stuff the cat and make it into a crazy helicopter and have it look crazy flying around and doing weird goofy shit... and remeber all the weird goofy shit the cat did while still alive. Cats ALWAYS do weird goofy shit constantly.

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    38. Re:I can't decide... by cheekyjohnson · · Score: 1

      How do they do it? They can diagnose people with various disorders so easily over the internet! I disagree with you, and that makes you a sociopath.

      Or, perhaps, just perhaps, some people don't want to let all of their actions be dictated by others just because it might hurt their feelings. It's possible to care about the feelings of others but still not feel it's worth it to stop what you're doing. It's also possible to care about the feelings of some people, but not the feelings of others. The fact that you hurt some people's feelings and don't care about it does not necessarily mean you're a sociopath (or whatever it is you're calling them at the time). For instance, I wouldn't stop saying that 1 + 1 = 2 merely because some hypothetical group of people were offended by it. And chances are, I wouldn't even care.

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    39. Re:I can't decide... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...In any case, I think there is a line that divides using a corpse to serve the living, and using a corpse to create whimsicality. If one cannot give a corpse a higher purpose, then it's best to leave it alone.

      Wait.... Whimsicality doesn't serve the living?

    40. Re:I can't decide... by CanHasDIY · · Score: 1

      Yep. Because using a real corpse is disrespectful of it's former occupant (or at least the memory of it, if you don't believe there was an occupant)

      So, what would the respectful thing to do with the run-over cat be? Throw it in a shoebox and bury it in the garden (until the dog digs it up, anyway)?

      Maybe I'm just odd, but I personally don't think of corpses as memories of the consciousnesses that once inhabited them, especially corpses of animals. It would be awfully damn hard to enjoy a really good cut of meat if I obsessed over how the bovine cadaver was chopped into tiny bits in a rather gruesome, blood drenched process in order to become steak.


      FWIW, I grew up on a farm, where death is a daily fact of life, so that probably influences my indifference on the topic to some degree.

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    41. Re:I can't decide... by guttentag · · Score: 1

      I think it's important to know that the cat died a natural death...

      Actually, the cat was killed by a car. It's even in the URL of the story that TFA is citing. "Orvillecopter-takes-flight-cat-run-over-by-car-gets-extra-life-as-a-remote-controlled-helicopter." One cannot claim there's anything natural about the cat's death, unless it was a Prius that ran it over.

      There might be some supernatural justice involved if the owner retaliates against the driver who hit the cat by flying it into his windshield while driving, scaring the living crap out of him. Actually, that would make for a great 21st-century sequel to The Birds: Dutch artist turns dead animals hit by motorists into helicopters and uses them to run those motorists off the road with an ever-growing swarm of dead, flying remote-control animals. Will he be stopped before he sets off an actual robotic-zombie apocalypse?

      I've heard many arguments over the years from people who claim the rest of the world should follow the Dutch policy on drugs. From now on, I'm going to rebut those arguments by showing the video of this catcopter. "See what happens when you let everyone smoke whatever they want? They start turning dead animals into UAVs and flying them all over the place. Still think it's a good idea?"

    42. Re:I can't decide... by jbeaupre · · Score: 1

      In cat ecology, cars have become a new natural form of death. So has obesity.

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    43. Re:I can't decide... by X0563511 · · Score: 1

      For the record, I'm in your camp. Perhaps because I worked for a time in a butcher.

      I was merely pointing out that there is a difference to a large number of people, that I would have expected you to see yourself (that's why the sarcastic tone).

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    44. Re:I can't decide... by PsychoSlashDot · · Score: 1

      Replace a dead cat with a human cadaver. Is it still difficult to differentiate between disturbing and adorable?

      Well, most people find cats adorable. Humans - except perhaps children - aren't generally considered adorable. So general use of a human cadaver wouldn't likely be adorable, would it? Unless it was a kid. Then it might be a fair comparison.

      For myself, this is disturbing. It makes a mockery of creature, whether it is alive or dead. It's like taking a head of a murder victim, sticking it on a pole and calling it art. Sure, maybe the victim doesn't care anymore, but the entire display is a mockery of life.

      Mockery of? You mean "tribute to", right? Taking a shovel and burying your dead where you never have to see them or think about them again... that's the real mockery. Incinerating the remains and keeping a jar of ashes around as if those ashes have anything tangible to do with the dead... that's mockery. Doing taxidermy with a dead pet shows that you're willing to be reminded every day that your furry friend isn't with you any more. That takes strength.

      Heck, I think this could be a good test to see if someone is a psychopath. A psychopath would definitely not find anything wrong with this usage of a "cat".

      Again, I disagree. And that as someone who recently lost a beloved pet. Unless by "psychopath" you mean "able to bear the constant reminder of loss and find some small measure of joy together after death."

      Remember, death taboo is a strong social construct. Doesn't mean it has any objective importance. It's just what you're taught.

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    45. Re:I can't decide... by TheInternetGuy · · Score: 1

      Is cat-copter adorable, or disturbing?

      It must be adorable,
      Let me give you a perfect example of what would be disturbing.

      1 Implant titanium mounting brackets in the cats paws.
      2 Mount motors on brackets.
      3 Put batteries and electronics in a little back pack on the cat.
      4 Apply some electric current to the nerve ends of the legs, so that the cat keeps them straight at all times.
      5 .....?
      6 Profit?

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    46. Re:I can't decide... by cffrost · · Score: 1

      The BODIES museum [...] uses bodies which are donated to science, through a conscious decision by the owner of the body [...]

      From http://www.bodiestheexhibition.com/newyork/disclaimer.html:

      This exhibit displays human remains of Chinese citizens or residents which were originally received by the Chinese Bureau of Police. The Chinese Bureau of Police may receive bodies from Chinese prisons. Premier cannot independently verify that the human remains you are viewing are not those of persons who were incarcerated in Chinese prisons.

      You continue:

      I'd say anybody who can't see a pretty clear difference between the two should probably spend a little quiet time reflecting on what intrinsic flaw they possess that makes them incapable of seeing a difference.

      Maybe you should spend a little time verifying your claims and less time critiquing other peoples' supposed shortcomings.

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    47. Re:I can't decide... by Talderas · · Score: 1

      Oh shit, it's a flying penis!

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    48. Re:I can't decide... by Talderas · · Score: 1

      In other news.... this post has given me an incredible idea for a plot in Shadowrun...

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    49. Re:I can't decide... by CanHasDIY · · Score: 1

      Thought of that - too obvious. Besides, a flying penis isn't all that terrifying.

      A whole flock of them, however...

      Which brings the question, what do you call a large group of flying penises?

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    50. Re:I can't decide... by Talderas · · Score: 1

      Well, we call a flock of crows a murder.

      I think a flock of flying penises should be called a rape.

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    51. Re:I can't decide... by CanHasDIY · · Score: 1

      Well, we call a flock of crows a murder.

      I think a flock of flying penises should be called a rape.

      Damn but I hope someone with mod points sees this post... hilarious!

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    52. Re:I can't decide... by Americano · · Score: 1

      And maybe you should spend a little time learning how to understand what you're reading.

      Critics have alleged that the bodies on display were illegally disposed of corpses of executed prisoners. The response of the exhibitors is:
      1) Our supplier has given us affidavits attesting that all bodies are legal donors;
      2) We cannot independently verify whether or not they're lying to us;

      There's a big difference between "We've been assured they're not, but we kind of have to take the suppliers' word for it," and "We use illegally appropriated bodies."

      (And if they do have illegally appropriated bodies, those bodies should certainly be removed from display! There's been no hard evidence to support the assertion that these bodies are all illegally "donated" victims of Chinese execution that I've seen. If you have some, do share.)

    53. Re:I can't decide... by V.+P.+Winterbuttocks · · Score: 1

      The only thing disturbing about that is how disturbingly awesome it would be.

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    54. Re:I can't decide... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think birds would be rejoicing. It's not like it can kill them anymore.

  4. Is it worst than an ear-mouse? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    http://www.famouspictures.org/mag/index.php?title=Ear_Mouse

  5. Ceiling cat is watching you first post. by Thud457 · · Score: 1

    A flying zombie kitty?

    Does it spew guns from it's mouth while giving out helpful life advice?

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    1. Re:Ceiling cat is watching you first post. by CanHasDIY · · Score: 5, Funny

      A flying zombie kitty? Does it spew guns from it's mouth while giving out helpful life advice?

      No, but it does have a rainbow streamer and a really, really annoying theme song.

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    2. Re:Ceiling cat is watching you first post. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have never seen the mice this scared.

    3. Re:Ceiling cat is watching you first post. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't know what nyan talking about.

    4. Re:Ceiling cat is watching you first post. by Nimey · · Score: 1

      /thread

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    5. Re:Ceiling cat is watching you first post. by Guppy · · Score: 1

      No, but it does have a rainbow streamer and a really, really annoying theme song.

      Speaking of which, DaiwellP's Nyancat album came out. More Nyan than you can shake a stick at!

  6. Time to update the book by operagost · · Score: 5, Funny

    I guess there are now 102 uses for a dead cat.

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    1. Re:Time to update the book by arkane1234 · · Score: 1

      The disturbing thing is, when I saw that picture my mind instantly thought the cat was alive and I was like "cool!!!".

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    2. Re:Time to update the book by GuB-42 · · Score: 1

      Nope,
      just Bart Jansen

  7. Enough with the commentary by smooth+wombat · · Score: 2

    that of the massive drone industry, which, more than just producing a symbol, actually is creating flying death?"

    There is a clear and distinct difference between using a dead animal as a work of art (which is pushing the limit of what art really is) and using man-made tools to go after people who have expressed in both word and deed they want to kill us.

    Post the article, leave out the commentary. Or would you prefer when articles are posted about government science research, commentary regarding how this only feeds the beast be included?

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    1. Re:Enough with the commentary by cpu6502 · · Score: 0, Troll

      >>>go after people who have expressed in both word and deed they want to kill us.

      Take a look at the youtube video of the little girl whose jaw was blown-off by a drone. In fact there are thousands of videos just like that. You really think these little kids deserve to be shot all to hell, and their bodies permanently damaged, just becasue "I'ma skeered little american"

      Big. Fat. Pussy. That's what you Americans are. No better then the Natsi scum that broke into homes and shot kids "for sport".
      Americans are the new Holocaust.

         

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    2. Re:Enough with the commentary by Richard_at_work · · Score: 1

      There are also thousands of photos taken ever since photography was invented, all of the maiming that humankind has done to one another over the countless years.

      Drones aren't anything special - but they do remove the risk to a pilot in the process, and thats good enough for me.

    3. Re:Enough with the commentary by CanHasDIY · · Score: 2

      Big. Fat. Pussy. That's what you Americans are. No better then the Natsi scum that broke into homes and shot kids "for sport". Americans are the new Holocaust.

      How do you know "smooth wombat" is American? I though wombats were exclusive to the Australian continent? Anyway, I both agree with the commentary regarding drone attacks, as well as the humor of flying roadkill, and I am an American. So... you know...

      "Most generalizations are false, including this one." -- Samuel Clemens

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    4. Re:Enough with the commentary by ObsessiveMathsFreak · · Score: 1

      There is a clear and distinct difference between using a dead animal as a work of art (which is pushing the limit of what art really is) and using man-made tools to go after people who have expressed in both word and deed they want to kill us.

      Yeah. One of those things is legal. The other is not.

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    5. Re:Enough with the commentary by Arker · · Score: 4, Insightful

      using man-made tools to go after people who have expressed in both word and deed they want to kill us.

      You mean people like Tariq Aziz and his 12 year old cousin? There is no evidence that they expressed any such wish at any point. Wouldnt be surprising if their families feel that way now, though.

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    6. Re:Enough with the commentary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How do you know "smooth wombat" is American?

      For that matter, why are we pretending that the only drones in active use are American?

      And why are we pretending that the "little girl whose jaw was blown off in a drone attack" would have been any less injured by a 500 pound JDAM dropped by an F-15, or a high explosive shell fired from a mortar or a tank, or a jihadist's car bomb, or any of a million other ways we humans have found to kill and maim one another. Why single out drones?

      I guess there's no topic cpu6502 doesn't have a ridiculously rabid and sadly uninformed opinion on.

    7. Re:Enough with the commentary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      oh you mean like all the people killed in the WTC, including some of my family? an eye for an eye right?

    8. Re:Enough with the commentary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's all about winning their hearts and minds, righto?

    9. Re:Enough with the commentary by Arker · · Score: 2

      That is a truly bizaare response. An eye for an eye might justify killing the killers. It doesnt justify bombing people that had nothing to do with it, years after the fact.

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    10. Re:Enough with the commentary by X0563511 · · Score: 1

      How do you know "smooth wombat" is American? I though wombats were exclusive to the Australian continent?

      Sssshhh. One too many run-ins with a drop-bear. Brain damage, and all that.

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    11. Re:Enough with the commentary by X0563511 · · Score: 1

      Eye for an eye only works if it's actually eye for an eye, and not "extended family for a fingernail"

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    12. Re:Enough with the commentary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Let it go, man. Murdering more innocent people isn't going to bring back your family, it's just adding to the sum total of sorrow in the world.

    13. Re:Enough with the commentary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd add you to my foes list for that post, but I wouldn't want to further feed your twisted little troll ego.

    14. Re:Enough with the commentary by cpu6502 · · Score: 1

      >>>go after people who have expressed in both word and deed they want to kill us.

      Take a look at the youtube video of the little girl whose jaw was blown-off by a drone. In fact there are thousands of videos just like that. You really think these little kids deserve to be shot all to hell, and their bodies permanently damaged? They are not a threat to us.

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    15. Re:Enough with the commentary by V.+P.+Winterbuttocks · · Score: 1

      Did someone make a helicopter out of her corpse? If so, post the link. If not - gtfo.

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    16. Re:Enough with the commentary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dont worry, those same drones will fly over your head soon enough.
      And those controlling them they will be just as trigger happy as always.

    17. Re:Enough with the commentary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Id rather there was risk, lots of it.
      No risk means you dont think of consequences of your actions, from the lone solider up to the president.

  8. Needed Chuck Testa by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That is some very bad taxidermy, the expression on the cat-corpse is completely unnatural. Ignoring the part about it being stretched over a remote control helicopter, that expression is so wrong that both the drone and the taxidermist need a blast of birdshot to the face.

    Also, since I was just reading some Warhammer-related content, isn't there a Necron unit that wears the skin of living enemies over its cold, metallic body?

    1. Re:Needed Chuck Testa by ravenshrike · · Score: 2

      Clearly they're planning on adding a .22 to the cat's mouth at some point.

    2. Re:Needed Chuck Testa by Radres · · Score: 1

      Chuck Testa does not taxidermize pets!

    3. Re:Needed Chuck Testa by Aserrann · · Score: 1

      That is some very bad taxidermy, the expression on the cat-corpse is completely unnatural.

      Actually, I bet that is a pretty good approximation of the expression the cat would have, if it were alive and had helicopter rotors strapped to it's paws.

    4. Re:Needed Chuck Testa by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wrong end.

  9. Respect by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It is not very respectful to take a dead animal and put it on a quadcopter.

    Its a lot more respectful to put the thing in the dirt where you may potentially drive over it time and time again. I mean, thats how it died and I am sure it died doing what it loved.

    Its freaking dead. For all I care he catapulted it into the moon. Its not like he killed it to make his quadcopter skin. People are fucking retarded.

    1. Re:Respect by Dr.+Zim · · Score: 1

      Its not like he killed it to make his quadcopter skin.

      Yeah! It's not like he.... uh... so what if he did?

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    2. Re:Respect by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I believe it was driven over. And if he did it, thats a case for animal rights. That he used the skin on a quadcopter is not that relevant.

    3. Re:Respect by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We also kill animals for food and clothing. no big deal really.

    4. Re:Respect by Anne_Nonymous · · Score: 1

      >> It is not very respectful to take a dead animal and put it on a quadcopter.

      Agreed. The poor kitty is probably spinning in his...er...in mid-air.

    5. Re:Respect by Githaron · · Score: 1

      And if he did it, thats a case for animal rights.

      Why? We kill chickens, cows, pigs, ducks, squirrel, deer, and such all the time. What makes cats special?

    6. Re:Respect by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The intent of killer has a factor to play here. Many of these animals are used for food. Others are accidental road kill, and others are a pest to other wildlife and human property. Cats aren't special in this case. If it had been shown that this specific cat was a pest to society or other wildlife, there would presumable be a call to get it killed. A man who kills his own cat for the purpose of art would probably be considered unnecessarily cruel.

  10. So how many lives do drones save? by Beeftopia · · Score: 2

    They're up there, occasionally letting loose a missile, sending video back to operators. Does that provide any benefit to friendlies?

    Remember - all actions are viewed FROM a perspective, and WITHIN a context. Dropping the atomic bomb on Japan, from the perspective of allied troops girding for the invasion of the Japanese mainland, and viewed within the context of the greater wold war swirling about them, was a great idea. From the perspective of the Emperor, it was a terrible idea. From the perspective of the Japanese citizens about to be incinerated and crushed, it was a terrible idea.

    Perspective and context. Always necessary to take into account when analyzing an action.

    1. Re:So how many lives do drones save? by ravenshrike · · Score: 3, Insightful

      From the perspective of all the Japanese citizens that survived vs would have been killed in the course of invasion or even just a sustained firebombing campaign over all of Japan's major cities. the nukes were also a good idea.

    2. Re:So how many lives do drones save? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Given the limited number of Japanese psychics in the world war II era, I think you would find a limited number of Japanese citizens who were thankful to the US for their magnanimosity.

    3. Re:So how many lives do drones save? by CanHasDIY · · Score: 1

      Given the limited number of Japanese psychics in the world war II era, I think you would find a limited number of Japanese citizens who were thankful to the US for their magnanimosity.

      Would you rather be vaporized instantly and feel nothing, or die a slow painful death of radiation poisoning?

      I think this is one arena of thought in which it's OK to make an assumption. No clairvoyance necessary.

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    4. Re:So how many lives do drones save? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So how many lives do drones save?

      I believe the US Government is currently working on a drone that can shoot food into the mouths of hungry people in Africa.

    5. Re:So how many lives do drones save? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So speaketh the psychopath

    6. Re:So how many lives do drones save? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are the old "unjustifiable" war crime defendened with an equally unjustifiable war crime straw man.

      Direct military act against an unarmed civilian population is a war crime. Asking that population to be greatful only one of the optional war crime options (a couple times) is a little insensive wouldn't you say especial given that nations reaction to the loss of just two buildings in just one of their cities.

    7. Re:So how many lives do drones save? by X0563511 · · Score: 1

      You seem to have mistaken a remote control toy for a military combat drone.

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    8. Re:So how many lives do drones save? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly! That's why were such good friends with the British now. When they torched the seat of federal power in our country, it just made us stronger and we came to appreciate it.

  11. Oh sure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hayao Miyazaki makes a cat-bus and it's cool, and My Neighbor Totoro gets critically lauded. This guy makes a cat copter and suddenly he's Hitler. What a fickle public!

  12. You don't "get" art, do you? by MrEricSir · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The commentary IS the art. To leave out the commentary would be to miss the entire point.

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    1. Re:You don't "get" art, do you? by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 1

      The commentary IS the art. To leave out the commentary would be to miss the entire point.

      Um, no. The commentary in this case was the second hand blog article - which starts speaking of drones, kill lists, etc - and not the original artist's commentary as far as I know. (Though someone who speaks Dutch could confirm it.)

    2. Re:You don't "get" art, do you? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The commentary IS the art. To leave out the commentary would be to miss the entire point.

      "*annoyed grumbling* Yes, I know I dug up this family that was tragically killed in a house fire earlier this year! Geez, you fucking fascists, all I did was desecrate their corpses, remove all their innards (including mortician preparations), replace them with marionette mechanics, and have them do amusing dances as meat puppets for my art exhibit in front of their friends and surviving relatives! BUT DO U NO WHO TEH REAL MONSTERZ AR?!?!?!?!!?1??!?/!? Maybe if YOU had as many fucking art degrees as I had, never polluted your work by personal interactions with other human beings, and took as many recreational drugs as I have, you'd understand such a simple concept and why it's so important I made a mockery of the dead like that!"

  13. As if he's pointing out hypocrisy? by vistic · · Score: 1

    "And for those that say stitching up a dead animal around the guts of a helicopter and flying it around is 'sick'" -- yes, it is.
    "...what of the massive drone industry, which, more than just producing a symbol, actually is creating flying death?" --- that's sick as well.

    1. Re:As if he's pointing out hypocrisy? by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      Yeah. I'm not really having a problem with them creating drones especially when they're used to kill people who poison girls schools. Like they did a couple of days ago. So that'd make 400 students so far at 4 different schools I believe.

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    2. Re:As if he's pointing out hypocrisy? by vistic · · Score: 1

      Well I guess we can be thankful that mistakes never happen with drone strikes.

  14. Hilarious by ifrag · · Score: 4, Funny

    Almost had to LOL just looking at the pictures. This idea is great, he should make an entire series of dead animal RC vehicles. And then have some kind of epic death match crashing them into each other.

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    1. Re:Hilarious by CanHasDIY · · Score: 1

      This idea is great, he should make an entire series of dead animal RC vehicles... then have some kind of epic death match crashing them into each other.

      Not sure the term 'deathmatch' would apply... then again, that may be the most appropriate usage of the term ever.

      Of all time.

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    2. Re:Hilarious by Githaron · · Score: 1

      Next up. Robo-pets made from actually pets. Your pets death getting you down? Stuff him with a chip so that he can follow you around!

    3. Re:Hilarious by Nethead · · Score: 1

      Pig. He just has to do a pig.

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    4. Re:Hilarious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not sure the term 'deathmatch' would apply...

      Obviously it would be a dog-fight. And a cat-fight, and a deer-fight, and a beaver-fight, and a snake-fight, fuck it we're goin all in...
      HONEY-BADGER-JUST-DON'T-GIVE-A-FUCK-FIGHT!

    5. Re:Hilarious by X0563511 · · Score: 1

      Deathmatch, deadmatch. Close enough :P

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    6. Re:Hilarious by Flipstylee · · Score: 1

      Almost had to LOL just looking at the pictures. This idea is great, he should make an entire series of dead animal RC vehicles. And then have some kind of epic death match crashing them into each other.

      Maybe the zombie bit enters here, we start a Google+ hangout where we all use bath salts and fight our undead copters like that 90's robot wars shows.

  15. PETA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...is going to have a field day...

    1. Re:PETA by NiteShaed · · Score: 2

      ...is going to have a field day...

      Are they though? I mean, sure, they want people to treat animals well (by PETA standards) while they're alive, and they definitely don't like it when people turn live animals into dead animals, but doing weird stuff with an animal carcass that was already dead when the guy got it? I'm not sure it fits in with their general focus...

      ADDENDUM: Okay, after typing that, I had the idea to google for "peta position on eating roadkill". Yes, they actually have one. I'm thinking the catcopter may actually be okay by PETA standards....

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    2. Re:PETA by ZombieBraintrust · · Score: 1

      PETA is for killing pet animals. In 2010 their animal shelter killed 1,911 animals and adopted out 24.

    3. Re:PETA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Like they are ok with what Super Mario is wearing?

  16. 102 Uses for a dead cat by tom17 · · Score: 1
    1. Re:102 Uses for a dead cat by tom17 · · Score: 1

      By the way, I am a cat lover, not a hater, but I loved that book as a kid.

      As such, I am as of yet undecided if this catricopter is good or bad...

  17. Re:It aint RIGHT! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Should have used a live cat instead, that would be much more tasteful.

    Personally I don't see any difference between this and what Damian Hurst produces (It's not for everyone I suppose), except that this flies, which is cool :-)

  18. Utterly contrived article by poity · · Score: 1

    Did the artist himself say anything about growth in drone technology and usage? It seems to me that motherboard/vice is using the "art is in the eye of the beholder" as a broad excuse to connect the two. Well, Jackson Pollock paintings look like coleslaw to me, so maybe I too can base a polemic on our modern obsession with health foods and fad diets around that observation?

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    1. Re:Utterly contrived article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Art is food for thought, not thought for food.
      Although you may take that with a grain of salt.

  19. "disrespectful to life?" by Medievalist · · Score: 1, Funny

    You have to be kidding me.

    Or was that an ironic take on the gay marriage debate? Please say yes.

    1. Re:"disrespectful to life?" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Please say yes."

      As you wish:

      Yes.

      Your turn: "Please say whooptydoo."

  20. A True to Life ROFLcopter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I can't stop laughing. If I owned this I would terrorize small children, the elderly and political parties that I disagree with.

  21. he looks cat-atonic by NeroTransmitter · · Score: 0

    this is a freaking cat-aclismic cat-astrophy. where can i get one?

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  22. So much outrage! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There is one positive comment on the website, where's the outrage again?

  23. News for Nerds, stuff that matters... by diewlasing · · Score: 1

    ...I think not.

    1. Re:News for Nerds, stuff that matters... by SteveInMI · · Score: 1

      Really? It may not "matter" in terms of galactic importance, but I think a case can be made for this article being "News" and/or "for Nerds". All work and no play, you know... And I'm not sure I would want to live in a world where repurposing dead cats doesn't count as play.

  24. Missed opportunity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    I know he was going for tying in the outrage of the cat with the flying drone thing, but he missed a brilliant opportunity to use a small pig instead.

    1. Re:Missed opportunity by ajlitt · · Score: 1

      Obligatory "What a lineup!"

    2. Re:Missed opportunity by kwoff · · Score: 1

      Better to use crucified Jesus, then we could really see the feces hit the rotor.

    3. Re:Missed opportunity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know he was going for tying in the outrage of the cat with the flying drone thing, but he missed a brilliant opportunity to use a small pig instead.

      An dress the pig in a turban with a bomb in it, and fly it into a model skyscraper. See, you can have both the brilliant opportunity and massive outrage!

  25. Re:It aint RIGHT! by lister+king+of+smeg · · Score: 0

    danm i am out of mod point not sure whether it would of been funny of insightfull

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  26. Disrespectful to death you mean surely ? by aepervius · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I dunno. I respect life and so forth, but once my pet are dead, or i am dead, who cares ? A corpse is a dead heap of rotting protein and has no intrinsic empathic value. People when they visit tomb in a cemetery are rarely visiting the corpse, but rather re-visiting the memory of the person, working on their grief. At least he found a value to his dead pet : big fat advertising.

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    1. Re:Disrespectful to death you mean surely ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yep.

    2. Re:Disrespectful to death you mean surely ? by Baloroth · · Score: 2

      Just because you never learned how to feel doesn't mean it's "normal" to be a sociopath.

      I suppose anyone who wears leather is also a sociopath? Or eats a cow? It's a little unusual to use a skin in this manner, but hardly "sociopathic". I actually found it really funny to see a flying cat. Sure, it's dead, but it's not like he mounted the head on a bloody spike or something.

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    3. Re:Disrespectful to death you mean surely ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Name calling and passionately defending your own irrational taboo surrounding death makes you totally normal. Congratulate yourself and go eat a hamburger.

    4. Re:Disrespectful to death you mean surely ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I suppose anyone who wears leather is also a sociopath?

      That's an AWESOME straw man - how much does it weigh?!

    5. Re:Disrespectful to death you mean surely ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What a well-written and logical argument! Your massive body of evidence supporting your position is remarkable. Everyone who read your amazingly informative post must have had their minds changed by your impeccable use of logic.

      Seriously though:
      A victimless crime is not a crime.

    6. Re:Disrespectful to death you mean surely ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Name calling and passionately defending your own irrational taboo surrounding death makes you totally normal.

      Ah yes, the post-modern Anonymous Coward has come to free us from our "irrational taboos." Because every culture in history hasn't developed traditions for handling its dead, and respecting the losses of the survivors, even if the death wasn't a personal loss for yourself.

      I'm so glad you're here with your contrarian views to tell every human civilization in history that they were stupid and wrong to respect their dead, and not just eat them and rape their corpses.

      Please name a single civilization where respect for the dead hasn't been a cultural value, and explain for me why turning the dead into a "toy" is a rational thing we should value?

    7. Re:Disrespectful to death you mean surely ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Something doesn't have to be a "crime" in order for it to be immoral, unethical, or wrong.

    8. Re:Disrespectful to death you mean surely ? by cheekyjohnson · · Score: 1

      aspies

      sociopath

      Wow! Where'd you learn to be able to instantly conclude whether or not random strangers that you haven't even met in person have various disorders based on a single one of their beliefs? It's amazing! Tell me more.

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    9. Re:Disrespectful to death you mean surely ? by cheekyjohnson · · Score: 2

      Because every culture in history hasn't developed traditions for handling its dead, and respecting the losses of the survivors, even if the death wasn't a personal loss for yourself.

      It's tradition, and tradition is always good. And if most people believe it's good, then it is.

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    10. Re:Disrespectful to death you mean surely ? by 19thNervousBreakdown · · Score: 0

      It's not just illogical, it's downright weird and disturbing to be offended by this.

      It's a corpse. It's not just a corpse, it's a house cat's corpse. And it's not just a house cat's corpse, it's the tanned hide of a house cat's corpse.

      And you're empathizing with it. Who's the weird one again?

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    11. Re:Disrespectful to death you mean surely ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's tradition, and tradition is always good.

      Oh wow, another straw man! Thanks for playing!

      You'll notice I never said "tradition is always good." I said "every culture in history has developed a tradition of respect for the dead and 'proper' treatment of the dead." When hundreds of societal traditions overwhelmingly develop favoring respect for the dead and sensitivity to the survivors of the loss, yes, there's a very good reason for it: namely, that inflicting distress and additional pain on your fellow citizens will get you ostracized from your society rather quickly.

      This has nothing to do with blind honoring of traditions, and everything to do with having a shred of empathy (yes, empathy) for the reactions and feelings of the people around you.

      It's certainly his *right* to create "art" like this, insofar as it does not appear that he killed the animal for this purpose, and so we have to presume no animal cruelty laws were broken. But to pretend that the many people (i.e., those who love and value their pets) are behaving "irrationally" when they see somebody turning a "beloved" dead pet into a toy is to blind yourself to (or simply ignore because you're a sociopath incapable of) any empathic connection to the people around you.

      What's even more funny is, for a group of people so quick to assure /. that you don't particularly value any notion of "respecting" the dead, I bet you were just as outraged as the next self-proclaimed post-modern intellectuals when that video surfaced showing American soldiers pissing on the corpses of insurgents. Care to justify that one for us? After all, traditions have no purpose, they're just irrational people clinging to irrational things - why not piss on corpses if it gets a laugh? We cling to tradition far too much, right?

      I'll be waiting right here for your scholarly discussion of why the criticism of those troops was totally outrageous. Don't keep me waiting!

    12. Re:Disrespectful to death you mean surely ? by wolfsdaughter · · Score: 1

      Exactly.

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    13. Re:Disrespectful to death you mean surely ? by cheekyjohnson · · Score: 1

      When hundreds of societal traditions overwhelmingly develop favoring respect for the dead and sensitivity to the survivors of the loss, yes, there's a very good reason for it: namely, that inflicting distress and additional pain on your fellow citizens will get you ostracized from your society rather quickly.

      Yes, and if people were offended by the idea of the world not being flat, we should just keep that from them, too. It might hurt their feelings!

      But I don't think this will get anyone "ostracized" from society any time soon.

      and everything to do with having a shred of empathy (yes, empathy) for the reactions and feelings of the people around you.

      You've hurt my feelings by expressing an opinion I disagree with. Have some empathy, won't you? Stop saying things I disagree with!

      But to pretend that the many people (i.e., those who love and value their pets) are behaving "irrationally"

      If you'll notice, it is not me who said that they're behaving irrationally. I believe it's only their opinion that these things shouldn't be done. That doesn't make it irrational, but I definitely disagree with them. And I don't care for people labeling others as sociopaths (not necessarily you) or saying they don't have empathy for others merely because they do a single thing that others might not like. Different people are offended by different things, and I believe it's absolutely nonsensical to try to cater to others. Even if most people are offended.

      is to blind yourself to (or simply ignore because you're a sociopath incapable of) any empathic connection to the people around you.

      Care to prove this? What if the "people around you" actually agree with you? What if you're empathic to some, but not to others? In fact, that sounds extremely likely given how diverse people's beliefs are. Are you a sociopath for caring about the feelings of some, but not of others?

      Where do you draw the line here? Am I sociopath because I hurt someone's feelings simply because I hurt someone's feelings? It's not so easy to say that someone is a sociopath or that they have no empathy.

      What's even more funny is, for a group of people so quick to assure /. that you don't particularly value any notion of "respecting" the dead, I bet you were just as outraged as the next self-proclaimed post-modern intellectuals when that video surfaced showing American soldiers pissing on the corpses of insurgents.

      You bet wrong. I don't care about dead bodies.

      We cling to tradition far too much, right?

      In my opinion, yes.

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    14. Re:Disrespectful to death you mean surely ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      wearing it, not so bad. making it, perhaps there's something to that... but then, does leathermaking make the sociopath, or do sociopaths gravitate towards leathermaking (either by choice or availability)?

      Next, a robot ground vehicle dressed as a cat, where they figured out how to get the pelt to "raise its fur" and hiss, as well as mount a fumeric acid cannon in its mouth, to help provide aversion therapy for dogs aggressive to cats...

    15. Re:Disrespectful to death you mean surely ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Okay, I'll offer you the same challenge I offered to cheekyjohnson: please explain for us why it was no big deal that American soldiers urinated on Taliban corpses, as was reported a few months back.

      "It's a corpse. It's not just a corpse, it's the corpse of their enemy. It's not just their enemy's corpse, it's the corpse of enemies they themselves killed!"

      Really, if you want to argue that there should be on such thing as "respect for a dead body, because it's just a corpse, and once you're dead it doesn't matter what happens to your body," then you have to be prepared to justify that position everywhere. Are you?

    16. Re:Disrespectful to death you mean surely ? by cheekyjohnson · · Score: 1

      As an internet psychologist, I hereby diagnose you as a sociopath.

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    17. Re:Disrespectful to death you mean surely ? by SirSlud · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Who said it's a toy? Considering the discussion it has fostered, the catcopter has certainly served a higher purpose than it would have had it just been stuck in the ground.

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    18. Re:Disrespectful to death you mean surely ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey AC, bend over and try this "Dead Dog Dildo", it may even be more comfortable than that stick you currently have shoved up your ass.

    19. Re:Disrespectful to death you mean surely ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You bet wrong. I don't care about dead bodies.

      I like how you tried to bury that response down at the very bottom of your wordy post, with a weaselly little "I don't care about dead bodies." So then in your esteemed opinion, the American soldiers were perfectly justified in pissing on the corpses of dead Taliban soldiers?

      You'd have no objection to me, say, digging up corpses of your family members and sending you photos of me having sex with them? You wouldn't mind somebody pissing on your own corpse, or wouldn't mind watching somebody pissing on the corpse of a close friend? I'm just trying to get a feel for how ridiculous you're willing to pretend you are in the defense of the stupid, poorly thought-out position you've tried to stake a claim to.

    20. Re:Disrespectful to death you mean surely ? by cheekyjohnson · · Score: 1

      I like how you tried to bury that response down at the very bottom of your wordy post

      I tried to? I expected that you'd at least read my comment, and I tried to respond to things in order. It had nothing to do with burying anything.

      So then in your esteemed opinion, the American soldiers were perfectly justified in pissing on the corpses of dead Taliban soldiers?

      I just don't care what they did to the bodies. I don't feel positive or negative about it.

      You'd have no objection to me, say, digging up corpses of your family members and sending you photos of me having sex with them? You wouldn't mind somebody pissing on your own corpse, or wouldn't mind watching somebody pissing on the corpse of a close friend?

      Nope. I wouldn't be able to care about someone urinating on my own corpse because I'd be dead.

      I mean, those dead bodies are going to be eaten by worms and such. A little urine surely won't hurt them. I'm not sure how healthy it is to have sexual intercourse with dead bodies, though.

      I'm just trying to get a feel for how ridiculous you're willing to pretend you are in the defense of the stupid, poorly thought-out position you've tried to stake a claim to.

      I'm just trying to get a feel for how ridiculous you're willing to pretend you are in the defense of the stupid, poorly thought-out position you've tried to stake a claim to.

      There. I stated my opinion as a fact. You're surely defeated now.

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    21. Re:Disrespectful to death you mean surely ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      SO, some guys pissed on some dead dudes.... and then there where the other guys who held up the guys blown apart by their own IED roadside bombs... please tell me when I was outraged over EITHER of these things. I would really like to know. It's a war zone, people are KILLING people and some idiots have to get pissy just because some people got pissed on? THEY WERE JUST FUCKING KILLED, getting pissed on is NOT worse than dieing in my opinion. Not to mention they are dead... they don't care anymore.

    22. Re:Disrespectful to death you mean surely ? by DigiShaman · · Score: 1

      In that case. After you pass away, can I have your skull so that I can turn it into a pencil holder for my desk? I might glue in some red LEDs for the eye sockets. Pretty cool. Better than some cheap trinket found at the local 99 cent shop.

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    23. Re:Disrespectful to death you mean surely ? by X0563511 · · Score: 1

      Yep. "People when they visit tomb in a cemetery are rarely visiting the corpse, but rather re-visiting the memory of the person, working on their grief"

      Totally someone lacking feeling or the understanding of it. Total aspie. Yep.

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    24. Re:Disrespectful to death you mean surely ? by X0563511 · · Score: 1

      Sure.

      The cat disrespected nobody. Taliban solders murdered innocent people.

      The respect isn't for the body itself. The respect is for the person/thing that it used to be. Said respect is possible to negate (or never earn): witness the "acceptability" of desecrating Taliban corpses. (Note: it's not really acceptable. People just let it be.)

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    25. Re:Disrespectful to death you mean surely ? by 19thNervousBreakdown · · Score: 1

      I don't accept the challenge, and I really don't like it when people put words into my mouth.

      You are trying to imply that I support their actions. I don't. And while you may be skilled at empathizing with cat corpses, you're apparently terrible at empathizing with living people. They pissed on their corpses for the express purpose of disrespecting the people. They were making the statement that it's a good thing that they're dead, and celebrating their "victory" (which involved killing them) in a reprehensible way. Intention not only matters in this case, it's the only thing that matters.

      If it makes you happy though, the fact that they murdered people (and were happy about it) is far more upsetting to me than anything they could do to their corpses.

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    26. Re:Disrespectful to death you mean surely ? by catmistake · · Score: 0

      I dunno. I respect life and so forth, but once my pet are dead, or i am dead, who cares ?

      The civilized care. It is how we treat the dead that separates us from all other animals (except maybe elephants and whales, who have been known to show grief at the loss of companions). The dead don't care, of course, but extreme callousness when handling or speaking of the dead is a manifestation of the lowest character of which humans are capable. If one doesn't respect death, one also doesn't respect life.

    27. Re:Disrespectful to death you mean surely ? by BeaverCleaver · · Score: 1

      If you have asked, and you receive permission, then it's probably OK. There may be hygiene rules to comply with at your office though.

    28. Re:Disrespectful to death you mean surely ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The civilized care.

      If you don't care about the exact same things as me, you're not civilized.

      Therefore, you're not civilized.

      It is how we treat the dead that separates us from all other animals

      That would be our intelligence. But if you so strongly feel the need to be separated from all other animals, then perhaps you're someone I'd deem as "petty."

      Our treatment of the dead is only one thing that separates us from other animals. Don't pretend that your definition of "civilized" is the only one. There is possibly more to being civilized than just treating bodies a certain way.

    29. Re:Disrespectful to death you mean surely ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because every culture in history hasn't developed traditions for handling its dead, and respecting the losses of the survivors, even if the death wasn't a personal loss for yourself.

      Granted, some of those traditions involve roasting and eating the brains or leaving the bodies to be picked clean by vultures. Funny thing how one man's respectful behaviour is another man's desecration.

    30. Re:Disrespectful to death you mean surely ? by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 1

      Please name a single civilization where respect for the dead hasn't been a cultural value

      There's a difference between "respect for the dead" and "respect for the corpses". If you want an example of a culture which doesn't place much value in the later, you can start here.

    31. Re:Disrespectful to death you mean surely ? by catmistake · · Score: 1

      I see the search for civilization continues...

    32. Re:Disrespectful to death you mean surely ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thanks for dodging the actual questions again with your voluminous response. It's clear you're arguing for the sake of hearing yourself talk. For someone who's so proud of being dispassionate about the issue, you sure are getting wound up defending your own right to desecrate a corpse.

      I'm so glad you're a completely balanced person who feels no emotion - someone who doesn't "feel positive or negative" about anything fundamental like treating a dead body with dignity and respect.

      You either really don't see how broken that makes you, or you're trolling. Either way, I'm done. Enjoy your emotionless existence, friend - I hope it's not too confusing for you, when people don't respond like perfect automatons to perfectly logical stimuli.

    33. Re:Disrespectful to death you mean surely ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's a difference between "respect for the dead" and "respect for the corpses"

      Yes, in that they're different words. How you treat the corpse is a *measure* of your respect for the dead. Which is why doing things like pissing on a corpse, or fucking a corpse, tend to be deeply, fairly universally repugnant. You seem to be reading what I've said as, "It's not the burial tradition I'm used to, I object!" And in that, you're quite wrong. I'm saying that treating the body of a dead person or pet you claim to have "cared deeply" with disrespect and turning that body into a radio controlled toy is repugnant.

      Please show me a single culture where the bodies of the dead are turned into toys. Just one, and I'll concede that you have a point.

      Or, how about this: go to Tibet, find a charnel ground where they perform sky burials, and try grabbing a corpse from there, tying strings to it, and waltzing it around town like a marionette. Tell me how that works out for you, even in a culture where you seem to think "returning the body to nature" (in a place where burials in stony, mountain soil was simply not possible) isn't a solemn affair that's respectful of the deceased.

      Or alternately, you can fuck right off back to 4chan with the rest of the idiots here trying to claim that this is some sort of "normal" behavior that's as respectful of the dead as any other funerary tradition.

    34. Re:Disrespectful to death you mean surely ? by cheekyjohnson · · Score: 1

      Your personal attacks won't invalidate a single one of my arguments.

      I'm so glad you're a completely balanced person who feels no emotion

      "Care to prove this? What if the "people around you" actually agree with you? What if you're empathic to some, but not to others? In fact, that sounds extremely likely given how diverse people's beliefs are. Are you a sociopath for caring about the feelings of some, but not of others?

      Where do you draw the line here? Am I sociopath because I hurt someone's feelings simply because I hurt someone's feelings? It's not so easy to say that someone is a sociopath or that they have no empathy."

      There's my other response (which you didn't respond to). In fact, if you did any sort of research on the issue, you'd see that almost zero people on this planet are devoid of emotion; even sociopaths have emotion.

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    35. Re:Disrespectful to death you mean surely ? by cheekyjohnson · · Score: 1

      How you treat the corpse is a *measure* of your respect for the dead.

      That's your opinion. Not mine. You can respect the person or pet that once lived without respecting the corpse. If you say you can't, then you're just essentially telling people what they feel, and that leaves you open for others to do the same to you.

      I'm saying that treating the body of a dead person or pet you claim to have "cared deeply" with disrespect and turning that body into a radio controlled toy is repugnant.

      That's subjective.

      trying to claim that this is some sort of "normal" behavior

      I don't believe many people here claimed it was "normal." Rather, it doesn't matter if it's normal or not.

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  27. What I really want to do... by judoguy · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... is fly this thing around, meaning above, a dog kennel. Every dog who has terrorized a cat will panic big time. The rest will go nuts trying to leap up high enough to get the damn flying kittie.

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    1. Re:What I really want to do... by Saija · · Score: 1

      hehehe made me laugh the image of that

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    2. Re:What I really want to do... by RivenAleem · · Score: 1

      Needs a speaker attachment playing "Ride of the Valkyries"

  28. been around a while by Thud457 · · Score: 1

    You think that's bad, don't read up on Walter Potter's work.

    Or does making it a zombie cyborg (cyborg zombie? what is the proper nomenclature here? ) make it somehow worse?

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    1. Re:been around a while by Talderas · · Score: 1

      Both terms are appropriate for different contexts. The appropriate term depends on which condition was applied first. The list of conditions is the inverse of which they occurred.

      A zombie cyborg would be a cyborg who was dead but then brought back to life. An example would be that you have cybernetic legs and arms to replace the ones you lost in the war. Then you die in some sense but they put a processor in that is capable of keeping your arms, legs, and body going. You're not a zombie cyborg because you were brought back to life.

      A cyborg zombie would be a zombie that had cybernetic elements. An example would be a corpse that was missing two legs is brought back to life. It's then given two cybernetic legs. It is now a cyborg zombie.

      Now, let's say that the person was a pirate in real life before he lost any body parts. If he got cybernetic legs before dying and becoming a zombie he would be a zombie cyborg pirate. If he got the cybernetic legs after being raised as a zombie then he would be a cyborg zombie pirate.

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  29. Re:It aint RIGHT! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I normally would think this is terrible, but I'm sick of all the animal rights crap, so I love it.

  30. Death from above by Meditato · · Score: 1

    Imagine the looks on the faces of mice as CATCOPTERS rain death from above!

    1. Re:Death from above by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Those mice are laboratory research animals to be used for experimentation, and as such, are to be held only in the highest respect, you insensitive clod.

      Now once they are dead, we should totally wrap their skins around some wind up toys. For target practice you know.

      [Going for funny. Probably failed.]

  31. For those of you morbid enough... by SteveInMI · · Score: 1

    ...to inflict this article on the unsuspecting, may I humbly suggest an inspired shortlink: http://tinyurl.com/freecats4all

  32. Outrageous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I, for one, am outraged at this. Where's the respect? Where's the dignity?

    And, most importantly, where's the Instructable page?

  33. Sorry, it has to be asked by NoNonAlphaCharsHere · · Score: 5, Funny

    I CAN HAS LANDING CLEERANS?

    1. Re:Sorry, it has to be asked by Nimey · · Score: 2

      I fucking love the Internet.

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    2. Re:Sorry, it has to be asked by NoNonAlphaCharsHere · · Score: 1

      The other day, I posted a reference to Time Cube, and there were people with reasonably low IDs who hadn't heard of it.

  34. no, not funny at all, in any manner by Thud457 · · Score: 4, Funny

    dear god help me, there's a guy running a leafblower outside my office while I look at those damn pictures!

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  35. Hmm. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I guess that there's 102 uses for a dead cat now.

  36. Re:art? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    If you want to comment on something from TFS, make a new comment, don't reply to the first, completely unrelated comment. It's obnoxious and it completely destroys the flow of conversation.

  37. Both disgust by Tommy+Bologna · · Score: 1

    >what of the massive drone industry, which, more than just producing a symbol, actually is creating flying death?" Your question depends on a false assumption. Just because we haven't risen up and overthrown our drone-flying overlords doesn't mean we must condone the inappropriate display of a pet carcass under the guise of "art." Both can be (and are) morally abhorrent.

  38. 1 word by aglider · · Score: 1

    Dreadful!
    Nonetheless I'd like to do the same to mr. Bart!

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  39. And, in honor of the artist by yoctology · · Score: 1

    And to show him the same dignity as his beloved pet, when dies I think he ought to be stuffed and made into the first literal batman.

  40. Now We Know... by 3seas · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...what happened to Schrodinger's cat

  41. Two birds, one stone... by ChaoticPup · · Score: 1

    Big cities are talking about getting drones these days, and many of them have a feral cat problem...

    Where do I submit my invoice for consulting?

  42. Typo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    *the eye of the beerholder

  43. James May's Man Lab by houghi · · Score: 1

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HB7KAoPl3Xg
    More interesting then a quad-copter, I think.

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  44. Oh, but it's such a *cute* *cat* ! by theNAM666 · · Score: 1

    -- Gramma Z

  45. just one problem by j2.718ff · · Score: 1

    The cat's looking forward. He can't possibly see anything below him, making him most un-useful at making observations, and I imagine landings would therefore be tough. That's really the only issue I have with this.

  46. try another article for some perspective by liquidsin · · Score: 5, Informative

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2154283/Cats-away-Artist-turns-dead-pet-flying-helicopter-killed-car.html?ITO=1490

    this isn't some mad scientist-type murdering strays to build controversial art. this is an artist who taxidermied his pet after it was hit and killed by a car. the cat was already named 'orville' and the artist thought it befitting to send his pet to play with the birds it so loved in life. the article posted with the /. story tells none of the real info and offers only inflammatory and barely-relevant commentary.

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    1. Re:try another article for some perspective by kurt_harlan · · Score: 1

      You must be new around here. " . . . the /. story tells none of the real info and offers only inflammatory and barely-relevant commentary." is the /. standard!

  47. Gravity Cat Not Amused! by wikthemighty · · Score: 1

    Lame, I would have thought it was pretty funny. Then again I enjoy things like this: Clip from GMOD Idiot Box #2

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  48. Dumb idea, cats aren't aerodynamic by Lime+Green+Bowler · · Score: 1

    Note that it has eight crash landings remaining before you have to buy a new one.

  49. What's the big deal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A little pussy never hurt anyone...

  50. Can I just say? by eagee · · Score: 2

    This is way, way cooler than being buried in the ground or cremated. I totally want this to happen to me when I'm dead. Sure, it's a little tacky, but having an afterlife as a helicopter sounds awesome! (and way cooler than being embalmed so I can sit under six feet of dirt in a fancy box)

  51. Shock art by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's not assault and battery when a self-identified artists punches you in the face. It's shock art expressing the human condition.

  52. Dinner, air delivered; sure beats Happy Meal toys! by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 1

    Wow, your Kentucky Fried Cat gets flown to you, and you get to keep the delivery vehicle as a toy! Now that is innovation!

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  53. If it goes into production... by OldGunner · · Score: 1

    ...and given its European origins, would it be made by Catbus Industries?

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  54. Dear god by Nidi62 · · Score: 1

    I always said cats were evil, and now they've got themselves an air force!

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    1. Re:Dear god by CanHasDIY · · Score: 1

      I always said cats were evil, and now they've got themselves an air force!

      'Bout time, those goddamn squirrels have controlled the skies for far too long!

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  55. Re:art? by Nadaka · · Score: 4, Funny

    The only thing in the eye of the beholder is charm, death, fear, telekinesis, serious wounds, and anti-magic.

  56. It's purrrrfect.... by CFBMoo1 · · Score: 1

    I want one for the cube farm I'm in.  :)

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  57. well, that's reassuring anyway. by Medievalist · · Score: 0

    whooptydoo!

    1. Re:well, that's reassuring anyway. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can I play too?

  58. Offended by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've never been more offended by anything in my life. You fatteg jackasses that think this are funny should all burn in hell fire and birmstone. I own 12 cats you insensitive dog fuckers.

    1. Re:Offended by V.+P.+Winterbuttocks · · Score: 0

      I've never been more offended by anything in my life. You fatteg jackasses that think this are funny should all burn in hell fire and birmstone.

      Wrong, it is not only funny it is fucking hilarious.

      I own 12 cats

      You are a sick person and should be shot. Then your cats should be shot, if they can't be moved to 6 different homes with owners who will be able to properly care for them. I am absolutely serious.

      No human should be allowed to have more than 3 cats in a normal-sized home. You don't need a cat harem.

      you insensitive dog fuckers

      What does what I do to dogs have to do with anything?!

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    2. Re:Offended by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You been trolled, faggutt. Slashdot - home of gullible cockasses.

    3. Re:Offended by V.+P.+Winterbuttocks · · Score: 0

      You been trolled, faggutt.

      And you haven't?

      Slashdot - home of gullible cockasses.

      You thought I believed you?

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    4. Re:Offended by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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  59. Not this one by aclarke · · Score: 1

    They clearly used an unlucky cat, as this one was apparently roadkill. I'd be more concerned about it accidentally flying into a busy road and getting hit by a bus.

    1. Re:Not this one by Githaron · · Score: 2

      A truck with nine wheels on each side.

  60. Response unexpected? by krelvin · · Score: 1

    Not sure what response the "Artist" had in mind, but I thought it was pretty funny. I can imaging people being upset, but really, its not like he killed the cat to make to copter.

  61. Re:It aint RIGHT! by arkane1234 · · Score: 1

    This isn't about opinion, it's about discussion.
    We can sit and spout our opinions all day until we're blue in the face, it does no good. *mutters something about gay whales*

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  62. Re:art? by damien_kane · · Score: 1

    The only thing in the eye of the beholder is charm, death, fear, telekinesis, serious wounds, and anti-magic.

    There's always Ray of Disintegration too
    The anti-magic is more a field, or aura, than an actual effect of an eye.

  63. Joel-Peter_Witkin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm guessing his critics wouldnt appreciate this artist either then?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joel-Peter_Witkin

  64. Re:try another article for some perspective - haha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The DailyMail has non-inflammatory, relevant commentary!!!?! Are you kidding me? I highly recommend anyone unfamiliar with the bigoted DM to watch the very funny The Daily Mail Song for an insight into how it covers news.... The only connection I see between the Daily Mail and this particular story is that the Daily Mail is perfectly sized as a cat litter tray liner which all it is suitable for. Obviously reusing the thousands of unsold copies is recommended rather than wasting money buying what I refuse to call a newspaper or ask a narrow minded neighbour for a copy.

  65. Re:art? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And morals, and likes/dislikes...

  66. Drones dont kill people by ThePeices · · Score: 1

    Drones dont kill people.
    Drone pilots kill people.

    Isnt that how it goes?

  67. Re:art? by sdguero · · Score: 1, Funny

    Monkey balls. EOM

  68. Re:try another article for some perspective - haha by liquidsin · · Score: 1

    cool story, bro. doesn't change that the article from the dailymail (which i read for free on their website, by the by) merely gives a nice little summary of how this all came about, whereas the article linked in the /. submission is nothing but an incoherent rant that starts from the premise that taxidermy should contain "a certain modicum of respect" and manages to somehow find, in the catcopter, a narrative on military UAV drones. then again, i probably only visit slashdot for the inflammatory summaries and their effect on the comments, so it's not like i actually expected any better. i'm also starting to think that i shouldn't bother replying to anons.

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  69. No different in when pretty white girls go missing by Shivetya · · Score: 1

    the world seems to end for the missing blonde "innocent" white girl who vanishes in a foreign country... not so much for all the residents of the same country who face similar problems on nearly a daily basis.

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  70. Re:It aint RIGHT! by dgatwood · · Score: 1

    I hear they tried that first, but the computer guidance system couldn't compensate for the swatting motion of the cats paws. :-D

    BTW, who else here is suddenly imagining a bunch of cats meowing Wagner's Ride of the Valkyries? Meow, meow-meow meow, meow. Meow, meow-meow meow, meow. Meow, meow-meow meow, meow. Meow, meow-meow meow. Meow meow, meow-meow meow, meow. Meow, meow-meow meow, meow. Meow, meow-meow meow, meow. Meow, meow-meow meow.

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  71. Re:art? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You really can't grasp the meaning of that? It means they recommend participating in existing threads rather than starting new ones, not to post off-topic messages to other thread.

    That's pretty sad coming from a 5 digit uid. You should know better by now.

    Also keep in mind, there is no -1, Incorrect for a reason.

  72. Finally by Fned · · Score: 1

    When someone asks me what I'd like done with my mortal remains...

    ...at last, I have a definitive answer.

  73. Swarm of catcopters by khraz · · Score: 1

    The guys making these bot swarms should look into having a squadron of catcopters. which would strike terror in the hearts of men everywhere.

  74. Gimmick by MaWeiTao · · Score: 1

    This is shock art. Do something outrageous, nonsensical or offensive as a way of grabbing attention; it's a gimmick. It's cheap and requires much less mental effort that creating a more creative method of conveying that concept. And the fact is that although the artist tries to append meaning to the piece the shock value ends up being a huge distraction. Instead of discussing what the piece is intended to represent everyone talks about the absurdity or offensiveness of the thing.

    I enjoy modern art, but art school gave me the distinct impression that there are a lot of artists out there who use the stype as a coverup their lack of talent.

    I have a few cats, and I have to say this Catcopter, as stupid as it is amused me. I don't see the reason to be offended. This is yet another gimmick that will be quickly forgotten except as an internet meme.

  75. Need one. by Psyko · · Score: 1

    My dog would go nuts over this, he'd never get tired of chasing a flying cat around the yard. I want one just to see how he'd react to it.

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  76. Re: I can't decide by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's adorasturbing. I think it's important to know that the cat died a natural death and that the decision was made afterward. Now the cat can continue to chase birds after death. And the determined look on its face is rather awesome.

    Because getting hit by a car is so natural...

  77. 100% off-topic. by retchdog · · Score: 1
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  78. I hope... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    someone does this to his corpse after he dies.

  79. Jesus by zixxt · · Score: 1

    We Christians LOVE this idea! Imagine if early Christians had helicopter technology when Christ died. Joseph of Arimathea could have made the body of Christ into an aviation miracle! Imagine a flying dead Jesus going around Jerulselem after the crucifixion, it would have converted many people, perhaps even the Pharasies and Pilate too.

    Stolen from a poster on yahoo news.

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  80. He just needs better PR people by Qubit · · Score: 1

    Shouldn't be hard for him to find -- I assume anyone working with quadcopter research these days knows a few good "spin doctors"

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  81. awww mannn... by Thud457 · · Score: 1

    1. I don't think PETA would approve any more of giving live cats quadricopter backpacks
    1a. There's a noise issue, I don't think the cats' sensitive hearing will enjoy
    1b. Have you priced feline-sized hearing and eye protection?!!!

    Granted that we can resolve those issues, and the system design issues of giving the cats control of their own flight, I heartily endorse this project, please point me to the kickstarter.
    But I think it may be an insurmountable task training the cats to recognize the importance of recharching/refuling their quadcopters when the yellow light comes on. Hmmm, maybe build in automatic override to the nearest automated refuling point as needed? Oh wait, in-flight-refueling! How could I have missed that!!

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    1. Re:awww mannn... by dgatwood · · Score: 1

      Just start with a deaf cat. It's only one letter off from what they started with.

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  82. Flying Pig by Wizworm · · Score: 1

    He couldn't have gone one step better and used a Suckling Pig, like the ones you Dissect in Biology class.

    Flying Cat MEH
    Flying Pig EPIC

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  83. Re:art? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And eye gunk...

  84. pickled dictators by BeaverCleaver · · Score: 1

    In some cultures humans are stuffed and put on display for the public. Lenin, Mao Zedong anyone?

    I'm hoping the Cubans are watching this. They could outdo the other commies by having a FLYING embalmed dead leader...

  85. That was awesome, but .... by Mr.+Lwanga · · Score: 1

    Didn't the quadrotor look a little catatonic?

  86. Magnificent! by InspectorGadget1964 · · Score: 0

    I would love one! Are they available as Siammese cats?

  87. Obviously a Warhammer 40K fan by Stickerboy · · Score: 1

    See examples:

    servo-skulls
    servitors

    The artist was just honoring a pious and worthy cat in death!

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  88. Re:No different in when pretty white girls go miss by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i'm sorry, but if enought "cute white girls" go missing then the novelty WILL wear off.

  89. Re:actually... by flyneye · · Score: 4, Informative

    O.K. then, I'll pick the ball back up and run by pointing out PRIOR ART. http://srl.org/machines/oldmachines/rabotrecent.jpg The folks over at Survival Research Laboratories added dead animals to machines for entertainment decades ago. http://srl.org/machines.html shows us some of their robotic triumphs. But before you write it off as geek driven entertainment, check out their R&D. http://www.srl.org/lab.html . Really deserves a story of it's own on /. as these are definitely Supergeeks deluxe with a rich history. http://www.srl.org/

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  90. Breaking news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Orvillecopter crashes. Engineers believe catastrophic failure was the cause.

  91. Re:art? by RodBee · · Score: 0

    And nowadays, with thousands of Beholder-type monsters, you can never be certain.

    If memory serves, the Spectator (yeah, seriously, that's a kind of Beholder) has an eye-stalk dedicated to serve dinners. which is kind of cool.

  92. Cool by RazorSharp · · Score: 1

    But the article (if it's long enough to call it that) was terrible. The author spent more time on his high horse railing against military drones than discussing the topic at hand.

    His conclusion that the Orvillecopter is a work of art is completely baseless. I don't believe it's art, but the statement wouldn't bother me if he had at least attempted to justify it somehow.

    He could have interviewed the guys who made it, he could have explained the power source and any challenges they had constructing this thing. He could have approached the article from all sorts of angles that would actually be on topic. Instead, the pictures were the only interesting part of this link. Shoddy blog posts like this are the reason people still trust the old media moguls more than the internet. The saddest part is the article ends with an advertisement for this douche bag's Twitter handle. Why would I follow him on Twitter? Certainly not for his wit, insight, or flowery prose.

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  93. Darwin? by funwithBSD · · Score: 1

    How will the birds evolve to adapt to their new cat copter overlords?

    Is this how the Angry Birds develop?

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  94. the biggest problem by Torvac · · Score: 1

    the biggest problem seems to be ignored here. what kind of weapons could a catcopter carry ?

  95. mice by strack · · Score: 1

    that thing is gonna kill more mice from tiny mice heart attacks than it did when its alive.

  96. Re:It aint RIGHT! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You know what? I love animals. I have cats. I am a vegetarian.

    That does not change the fact that I looked at this contraption and laughed. I feel sorry for the cat, but this thing is funny.

    Posting anonymously only because I don't want to deal with PETA.

  97. Sure why not. by aepervius · · Score: 1

    But I would prefer blue led. Red glowing evil eye is overdone. Blue glowing evil is better.

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  98. ob-xkcd by elistan · · Score: 1

    http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/ferret.jpg
    Brings a tear to my eye.

  99. Ya ever see one that's been in the ground 6 months by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    People complained when Roy Rogers had his horse, Trigger stuffed when it died. His reply was" Have you ever seen one of them after its been in the ground for 6 months?

  100. *maaaaaaaaaoooouuuuuuuiuuuuuuuwwwwww* by freaker_TuC · · Score: 1

    That's the sound, of a cat flying above your head ...

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  101. I prefer... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ROFLCOPTERS!