Since I was modded "offtopic" but I really feel *on*topic let me elaborate my point:
It's nice that the Blue Gene/L is now considerably lower, but the low budget "supercomputer" is a cluster of inexpensive computers. That is probably shown be their number (373 of 500) in the TOP500 and by the fact that Google runs several clusters of x86 PCs.
Distributed computing is a different solution to the same task that a Blue Gene/L can solve, both have their strengths and weaknesses.
There are a lot. It's not even one family. Really a lot! (Every red dot a language.)
What is probably meant: It's an African concept. This notion is not restricted to one language/speech community and in that sense (sub-Sahara) African.
The price is actually from Germany. That's where I saw a Gas station this morning, now I'm in the Netherlands and here it's more around $1.90 or $2.00 for a liter.
For an international price list take a look at this (prices in EURO).
You will pay approximately the same for a smart and even more for something like a Volkswagen Polo, and that's without gas! (Today about $1,80 for a liter at my nearest gas station!) The price is reasonable for Europe.
Okay, you two better cut it out. This is at least the third time I've heard this exact conversation now, be careful you don't start some kind of weird new meme. These things can catch on and refuse to die. You know, "In Soviet Russia, GNAA pours hot grits down our naked and petrified overlord's pants..." Just be careful, please.
You mean like the horrible notion of "meme" which catched up and refuses to die.
In Soviet Russia you use concepts, in memetic theory concepts use you!
monopoly [...] is defined as a persistent market situation where there is only one provider of a product or service. Monopolies are characterized by a lack of economic competition for the good or service that they provide and a lack of viable substitute goods.
And yes I know what I'm talking about. And no you are right it's not monopoly in the strict sense of the word. They are dominating the field with such a power that it is a near monopoly.
Microsoft also has no real monopoly in the Desktop OS sector, but I would still call it that, despite that I know that it is stricly speaking inaccurate.
As much as I don't like the Google monopoly, I felt/feel uncomfortable with a state/big company founded alternative driven by a French/German/European resentment against Google/the US.
So as a person born, raised and up to the Master educated in Germany I like the following statement from the article:
"In Germany I think there was also resistance to the idea of a top-down project driven by governments,"[...]
What I would like to see is a more community developed alternative to Google. And come on, Google is brilliant and huge but it can't be the end of development in the search engine field.
And even Google started small, they just had something new and way better than what was there.
And if it's true
that some of Germany's top research innovators were not motivated to "reinvent the wheel."
Well, they should invent either the engine to the wheel or get rid of the wheel idea and invent wings.
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Why is parent not modded funny?
Would someone with mod points and a pico sense of humor mod him accordingly.
No. NPOV is intact (or as intact as ever). I cited the "Aphorisms and humor about COBOL" part of the article and I linked directly to that part of the article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cobol#Aphorisms_and_h umor_about_COBOL
to make it obvious, but I'd probably better written it behind the link, too.
I think the COBOL article is neutral/fair and of reasonable quality. I just liked the part I posted, because I think there is a true core in it.
It has been said of languages like C, C++, and Java that the only way to modify legacy code is to rewrite it - write once and write once again; or write once and throw away. On the other hand, it has been said of COBOL that there actually is one original COBOL program, and it only has been copied and modified millions of times.
I'm not saying I have an answer. But since - as far as I am concerned - medicine is about the well-being of people and business is about profit, they are not a match made in heaven.
But we have that combination and now we have to see how we get along with that, "family member" and "the children" examples don't help much.
I could make up a one like: "Imagine you are poor and one of your family members has XY and medical care would be a human right and free." It doesn't help with concrete problems either.
My mother died last year from cancer. The type of cancer she had is not very frequent so
there's not much money to make. The chemo-therapie and other therapy forms were not specifically
developed for this type and do not work very effective and so she died.
I also travel frequently to developing countries and people I have known there died from malaria,
no vaccination or anything because the people mostly affected are poor. And so there is not much research.
No, sir, no "anti-corporation blabber". It's just a plain fact that corporations (and by that patents) will help you only
if there is enough money to be made. That is no blabber but pure clean capitalistic economy.
It is nothing else. It doesn't matter how many people are affected (malaria and AIDS) or how severe the problem is (cancer vs obesity),
it's just about profit. So do not start with family member or the children examples. Business means revenue over humans.
To the people who think it is all some radical overreach, consider how radical the original vision of free software appeared and how accepted it is now (in the form of GPLv2). It's not surprising that the same kinds of opposition appear when bringing the license up to date.
I totally agree with you, for this part of criticism explaining over and over again and time do a good job.
But my personal problem are more non-techie people who generally agree with the idea of
free software and do not think of it as too redical BUT do not understand the quibbling about GPLv2 vs GPLv3. (And comparable stuff.)
They think mostly that the legal/formalistic aspect rather than the goal is overreached. This part of my friends thinks that the goal has already come out of sight when they see how much energy is invested in v2 vs v3 fights and I must confess I normally change subject at that part of conversation.
You are right he has no idea, but the point I would like to have taken seriously is his question:
is it possible that the FOSS movement has gone too far in trying to protect free software?
I mean a lot of people I spoke with seem to have the perception of the FOSS movement as a group of pedants and sticklers for the letter of the law, who have gotten entangled in sophistry and formalistics struggles over nuances of formulations.
I understand that all that is necessary as soon as enough money is involved, but I also see part of the strength of the movement (don't really like that word) going down the drain with that.
I know it' a little offtopic but I think it's necessary to get this straight in a passionless manner, before a terrorism/LTTE discussion starts.
The Tamils are one people (what ever that precisely means), who live in India and Sri Lanka.
In India they live in the union state Tamil Nadu ("Nadu" is Tamil and means land/country, so Tamil Nadu means land of the Tamils) and in Sri Lanka (or in Tamil "Izham", "Ilam" or "Eelam") they live in the so called Tamil Eelam (the TE part of LTTE) so "the Tamil part of Sri Lanka".
The Tamils form one linguistic and cultural group. They share a long and impressive history (e.g. look up Sangam or Chola).
The Tamils of India have a highly ambiguous postition to the conflict in Sri Lanka and the LTTE. As much as they feel empathy for "their Tamil brothers" of Sri Lanka and a very strong Tamil nationalism on both sides of the Palk strait, they were not very enthusiastic about the murdering of their (the Indian) President by the LTTE. Supporting the LTTE is illegal in Tamil Nadu.
There is a point in offering just another proprietary format. You get a little more diversity. You get Linux (and *BSD ?) users in the boat. It's a small step but it's a step.
And: Having a solution that is viewable for everyone in theory but computer user Joe can't watch it, because it does not run out of the box, is probably as bad as a proprietary solution. Here again diversity is the remedy.
But you are right:
Pick a format that doesn't require royalties.
an open standard is still the best option. (I'm not sure about the technical server side problems, though.)
Slashdot Mirror
I always (at least every Monday morning) had the feeling that god is just trolling, but now there is a proof.
I think there is a theory that he is trying to quit smoking.
Hands?!? OMFG! Why not use toilet paper?
Again? Did you just wait for a possibility to post the same junk again, three years later?
No "Network Anonymiser Translation" this time, but an ethnic slur, great.
Since I was modded "offtopic" but I really feel *on*topic let me elaborate my point:
It's nice that the Blue Gene/L is now considerably lower, but the low budget "supercomputer" is a cluster of inexpensive computers. That is probably shown be their number (373 of 500) in the TOP500 and by the fact that Google runs several clusters of x86 PCs.
Distributed computing is a different solution to the same task that a Blue Gene/L can solve, both have their strengths and weaknesses.
Wow moderators, since when are old lame jokes redundant? (He's the first to post our beloved Beowulf-phraseme in this discussion.)
And he's even right, clusters are the most frequent architecture in the TOP500:
No.
There are a lot. It's not even one family. Really a lot! (Every red dot a language.)
What is probably meant: It's an African concept. This notion is not restricted to one language/speech community and in that sense (sub-Sahara) African.
The price is actually from Germany. That's where I saw a Gas station this morning, now I'm in the Netherlands and here it's more around $1.90 or $2.00 for a liter.
For an international price list take a look at this (prices in EURO).
You will pay approximately the same for a smart and even more for something like a Volkswagen Polo, and that's without gas! (Today about $1,80 for a liter at my nearest gas station!) The price is reasonable for Europe.
I think it's a good idea with a lot of potential here in Europe, maybe not in the US.
For me it's definitely enough car. For most people it would make a great second car.
From their homepage:
Range: 180km
Speed: max. 100km/h
A max. speed of 120km/h would be nicer, but range and speed are sufficient for all of the routes on which I prefer car over train.
You mean like the horrible notion of "meme" which catched up and refuses to die.
In Soviet Russia you use concepts, in memetic theory concepts use you!
And yes I know what I'm talking about. And no you are right it's not monopoly in the strict sense of the word. They are dominating the field with such a power that it is a near monopoly.
Microsoft also has no real monopoly in the Desktop OS sector, but I would still call it that, despite that I know that it is stricly speaking inaccurate.
As much as I don't like the Google monopoly, I felt/feel uncomfortable with a state/big company founded alternative driven by a French/German/European resentment against Google/the US.
So as a person born, raised and up to the Master educated in Germany I like the following statement from the article:
What I would like to see is a more community developed alternative to Google. And come on, Google is brilliant and huge but it can't be the end of development in the search engine field.
And even Google started small, they just had something new and way better than what was there.
And if it's true
Well, they should invent either the engine to the wheel or get rid of the wheel idea and invent wings.
Why is parent not modded funny?
Would someone with mod points and a pico sense of humor mod him accordingly.
K.I.T.T.: "There's nothing worse than a smart-ass automobile."
Listen to him he knows what he is talking about!
No. NPOV is intact (or as intact as ever). I cited the "Aphorisms and humor about COBOL" part of the article and I linked directly to that part of the article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cobol#Aphorisms_and_h umor_about_COBOL
to make it obvious, but I'd probably better written it behind the link, too.
I think the COBOL article is neutral/fair and of reasonable quality. I just liked the part I posted, because I think there is a true core in it.
I'm not saying I have an answer. But since - as far as I am concerned - medicine is about the well-being of people and business is about profit, they are not a match made in heaven.
But we have that combination and now we have to see how we get along with that, "family member" and "the children" examples don't help much.
I could make up a one like: "Imagine you are poor and one of your family members has XY and medical care would be a human right and free." It doesn't help with concrete problems either.
cheers
My mother died last year from cancer. The type of cancer she had is not very frequent so there's not much money to make. The chemo-therapie and other therapy forms were not specifically developed for this type and do not work very effective and so she died.
I also travel frequently to developing countries and people I have known there died from malaria, no vaccination or anything because the people mostly affected are poor. And so there is not much research.
No, sir, no "anti-corporation blabber". It's just a plain fact that corporations (and by that patents) will help you only if there is enough money to be made. That is no blabber but pure clean capitalistic economy.
It is nothing else. It doesn't matter how many people are affected (malaria and AIDS) or how severe the problem is (cancer vs obesity), it's just about profit. So do not start with family member or the children examples. Business means revenue over humans.
I totally agree with you, for this part of criticism explaining over and over again and time do a good job.
But my personal problem are more non-techie people who generally agree with the idea of free software and do not think of it as too redical BUT do not understand the quibbling about GPLv2 vs GPLv3. (And comparable stuff.)
They think mostly that the legal/formalistic aspect rather than the goal is overreached. This part of my friends thinks that the goal has already come out of sight when they see how much energy is invested in v2 vs v3 fights and I must confess I normally change subject at that part of conversation.
You are right he has no idea, but the point I would like to have taken seriously is his question:
I mean a lot of people I spoke with seem to have the perception of the FOSS movement as a group of pedants and sticklers for the letter of the law, who have gotten entangled in sophistry and formalistics struggles over nuances of formulations.
I understand that all that is necessary as soon as enough money is involved, but I also see part of the strength of the movement (don't really like that word) going down the drain with that.
No solution from my side, though.
You are right, thanks.
Rajiv Gandhi was of course Prime Minister. (Ramaswamy Venkataraman was Indian President at that time.)
I know it' a little offtopic but I think it's necessary to get this straight in a passionless manner, before a terrorism/LTTE discussion starts.
The Tamils are one people (what ever that precisely means), who live in India and Sri Lanka.
In India they live in the union state Tamil Nadu ("Nadu" is Tamil and means land/country, so Tamil Nadu means land of the Tamils) and in Sri Lanka (or in Tamil "Izham", "Ilam" or "Eelam") they live in the so called Tamil Eelam (the TE part of LTTE) so "the Tamil part of Sri Lanka".
The Tamils form one linguistic and cultural group. They share a long and impressive history (e.g. look up Sangam or Chola).
The Tamils of India have a highly ambiguous postition to the conflict in Sri Lanka and the LTTE. As much as they feel empathy for "their Tamil brothers" of Sri Lanka and a very strong Tamil nationalism on both sides of the Palk strait, they were not very enthusiastic about the murdering of their (the Indian) President by the LTTE. Supporting the LTTE is illegal in Tamil Nadu.
Know what I mean? Nudge nudge. Say no more.
I wouldn't expect something like this now, squire! Not even in the new MacPros, even less in the MacBooks, or iMacs.
Snap snap, grin grin, wink wink, nudge nudge, say no more?
I bet she does, I bet she does!
You are talking about this, right?
There is a point in offering just another proprietary format. You get a little more diversity. You get Linux (and *BSD ?) users in the boat. It's a small step but it's a step.
And: Having a solution that is viewable for everyone in theory but computer user Joe can't watch it, because it does not run out of the box, is probably as bad as a proprietary solution. Here again diversity is the remedy.
But you are right:
an open standard is still the best option. (I'm not sure about the technical server side problems, though.)