I would completely agree if they had turned around 1.7 years ago when we first raised this issue and simply changed the name. That was before GVFS got any mainstream attention. At first they were like OK wow we didn't realize there was already a virtual filesystem with basically the same name whoops our bad let me talk to the higher ups and we will change the name and by the way we promise when we release on Linux we 100% will use a different name no matter what. Then a year passes and they quietly close all the issues and say sorry not sorry. They are simply too stubborn to bend for anything that doesn't affect their bottom line. The fact that this is getting attention is probably really pissing them off, and hopefully will make them rethink their position on this issue.
The.NET thing is pretty funny. They were basically like "OMG people are actually using Windows Messenger and their.NET accounts -- lets apply that branding to EVERYTHING!!!"
Well, a company like microsoft has to devote millions of dollars whenever they do anything, even if they only have 1-2 developers working on it. Maybe a few more million and they would have googled the name first.
Or that they are literally so arrogant that it never occurred to them to google it until I raised the issue with them, which they basically admit in the original GitHub issue.
For me it's not even about that, though there are a number of people already complaining on stackoverflow that it's becoming annoying to tell the two apart. It's about the principle of the matter. Microsoft wanted this to fizzle out quietly because they came up with a name, didn't even google it, and now are attempting to silence all discussion regarding the matter because just like old times they are bullies and don't really believe in open source and community driven software. Fuck that. I'd rather see this splatter all over the front page of reddit and slashdot. Let's see how stubborn they are when this tiny issue is taking attention away from their mid-life crisis acquisition of GitHub. They can't keep acting like this if we keep drawing attention to it.
It's beside the point. This is a stupid move on Microsoft's part. They are (stupidly) trying to win developers over by buying GitHub and using it to associate their brand with cutting edge / open source software development. They are going to look like idiots if before their acquisition is even finalized, the internet is blowing up because Microsoft brutishly occupied the name of a long-standing GNOME component. If they won't even bend on something as trivial like this, how can developers trust them to listen when something important actually happens.
So it's not about trademarks, it's about mind-share, and Microsoft has clearly lost it with this one.
It's just irresponsible that they 1) clearly never Googled it and 2) refused to change the name even though people started complaining about this long, long before it was the center of attention. Now the users of both GVFS and GVfs are going to suffer when they can't find what they are looking for in stackoveflow etc
This is a clear example of people wanting the bar to be set higher, so they can be lazy and not have to care so much about whether a particular app is dangerous from a privacy perspective.
RTFA. They use Monero, which is specifically optimized to be difficult for anything but a consumer CPU. That said, GPUs mining monero are supposed to get around a 2x performance boost over a consumer CPU, but that's it, not 9999x as is usually the case. If I remember correctly, CoinHive estimates that a modern browser will run their mining code at roughly 70% the efficiency of a native/desktop implementation.
I also call bullshit. Coding is fun. Product management, dev ops, and putting out fires and meeting customer needs is a lot less fun. But this unfunness can also be present even in small open source projects. All it takes is tons of users writing in wanting feature changes or experiencing/reporting bugs (or asking if you could please re-write the project in Rust), and you'll start feeling just like any fledgling startup. So I revise my statement -- coding is fun when done for oneself as a creative and intellectual exercise. Share that code, however, and you will be on a pathway to unfunness, but on the other hand people will reward you for that unfunness, so it's really a matter of balancing the rewards with the inherent unfunness of the activity.
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I am scrambling right now to figure out what my options are, my main concern being that I am already in debt, supporting my fiance, etc., and need to get my financials figured out ASAP. I just sent out about 20 applications to various senior software engineer jobs, but I likely will go negative well before any of them gets back to me. If you would like to support me while I figure out my options, and potentially help me fight for my right to intellectual freedom online, please consider visiting the gofundme link at the top of this comment.
Honestly I think this is a great and hilarious promotion and I was super disappointed when it didn't activate my phone when the commercial came on (probably because google had already patched it). If you want to be angry at someone be angry at Google for having a device that listens to everything all the time. The fact that Burger King is able to mess with it just makes Google look bad and Burger King look awesome IMO, but I'm a millennial so what do you expect.
When a Slashdot summary, of all places, contains an absurd sentence like this
James Charles, the beauty-obsessed 17-year-old Instagram star who was recently announced as the first male face of CoverGirl, tweeted, "my entire childhood is going down the drain wow I'm gonna cry RIP greendude50."
then I really start to think that we're finally seeing the peak of the rampant leftism that has infected the Internet for the past 8 to 10 years.
I think that average people have finally had enough of this sort of leftism. They just don't want to deal with it any longer. They're tired of the gender confusion imposed by leftists. They're tired of the constant false accusations of racism/sexism/intolerance/etc./etc. coming from leftists. They're tired of petty criminals being portrayed as "martyrs" by leftists. They're tired of "peaceful protests" led by leftists that involve property damage and violence.
Average folks have had enough of it. They want society to return to a state of normalcy and civility. They've had enough of leftism.
How is this at all a "leftist" thing? Bad/trivial entertainment is bad/trivial entertainment. This is no different than what now pollutes prime time on Discovery + History channel... ice road truckers... all that crap
not to mention the tons of software, video game launchers, etc., using Electron (though these changes won't be available that far downstream for a while I would think)
Slashdot Mirror
Now we can have a literal blue screen of death
Git != GitHub. Though would love to see Linus enter this pissing contest.
Git != GitHub
The final "no" was a few months ago. It's been an ongoing issue since 2017.
Changing it would mean admitting they screwed up and also taking the time and money for a rebranding.
But it would also mean positive PR from the open source world, which they are clearly craving right now to the tune of $5 billion+ ;)
I would completely agree if they had turned around 1.7 years ago when we first raised this issue and simply changed the name. That was before GVFS got any mainstream attention. At first they were like OK wow we didn't realize there was already a virtual filesystem with basically the same name whoops our bad let me talk to the higher ups and we will change the name and by the way we promise when we release on Linux we 100% will use a different name no matter what. Then a year passes and they quietly close all the issues and say sorry not sorry. They are simply too stubborn to bend for anything that doesn't affect their bottom line. The fact that this is getting attention is probably really pissing them off, and hopefully will make them rethink their position on this issue.
Don't forget lazy arrogant Microsoft.
The .NET thing is pretty funny. They were basically like "OMG people are actually using Windows Messenger and their .NET accounts -- lets apply that branding to EVERYTHING!!!"
Well, a company like microsoft has to devote millions of dollars whenever they do anything, even if they only have 1-2 developers working on it. Maybe a few more million and they would have googled the name first.
Or that they are literally so arrogant that it never occurred to them to google it until I raised the issue with them, which they basically admit in the original GitHub issue.
For me it's not even about that, though there are a number of people already complaining on stackoverflow that it's becoming annoying to tell the two apart. It's about the principle of the matter. Microsoft wanted this to fizzle out quietly because they came up with a name, didn't even google it, and now are attempting to silence all discussion regarding the matter because just like old times they are bullies and don't really believe in open source and community driven software. Fuck that. I'd rather see this splatter all over the front page of reddit and slashdot. Let's see how stubborn they are when this tiny issue is taking attention away from their mid-life crisis acquisition of GitHub. They can't keep acting like this if we keep drawing attention to it.
This would make a lot of sense if the VFS part of both acronyms (aka 75% of the acronym) didn't already stand for the same thing.
Gee, "X" at the beginning of a word sounds cool. My new console looks like a box. Let's call it XBOX. Just a harmless hash collision is all.
It's beside the point. This is a stupid move on Microsoft's part. They are (stupidly) trying to win developers over by buying GitHub and using it to associate their brand with cutting edge / open source software development. They are going to look like idiots if before their acquisition is even finalized, the internet is blowing up because Microsoft brutishly occupied the name of a long-standing GNOME component. If they won't even bend on something as trivial like this, how can developers trust them to listen when something important actually happens. So it's not about trademarks, it's about mind-share, and Microsoft has clearly lost it with this one.
It's just irresponsible that they 1) clearly never Googled it and 2) refused to change the name even though people started complaining about this long, long before it was the center of attention. Now the users of both GVFS and GVfs are going to suffer when they can't find what they are looking for in stackoveflow etc
This is a clear example of people wanting the bar to be set higher, so they can be lazy and not have to care so much about whether a particular app is dangerous from a privacy perspective.
Should be taken outside and shot behind the chemical shed
RTFA. They use Monero, which is specifically optimized to be difficult for anything but a consumer CPU. That said, GPUs mining monero are supposed to get around a 2x performance boost over a consumer CPU, but that's it, not 9999x as is usually the case. If I remember correctly, CoinHive estimates that a modern browser will run their mining code at roughly 70% the efficiency of a native/desktop implementation.
He was promptly taken outside and shot behind the chemical shed.
I also call bullshit. Coding is fun. Product management, dev ops, and putting out fires and meeting customer needs is a lot less fun. But this unfunness can also be present even in small open source projects. All it takes is tons of users writing in wanting feature changes or experiencing/reporting bugs (or asking if you could please re-write the project in Rust), and you'll start feeling just like any fledgling startup. So I revise my statement -- coding is fun when done for oneself as a creative and intellectual exercise. Share that code, however, and you will be on a pathway to unfunness, but on the other hand people will reward you for that unfunness, so it's really a matter of balancing the rewards with the inherent unfunness of the activity.
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While I list my title online as the CTO of DuroSoft Technologies, I am a part-time graduate student, and the vast majority of my income comes from a contracting position I (until just now) held at a popular SaaS company. I am not going to leak the name of this company, and I would politely ask people who reply to this thread not to speculate about about which company this might be, or otherwise go on a witch-hunt at this time.
Effective immediately, I have been terminated from my contracting position at X explicitly because of the views I express in this article, and the article's subsequent popularity on HN, Reddit, Slashdot, Hacker Noon, Medium, and other sites. Earlier today the article was posted and discussed in my employer's private engineering Slack room. A highly positive discussion ensued in which a number of our senior developers identified some key points and takeaways we could use to improve our effectiveness as a team. The CTO intervened and put an end to the discussion with little explanation, even though it had been a very constructive conversation with zero negativity. Despite this, I was floored by the words of praise and encouragement I received privately from other developers, and fully expected my article to become the topic of our upcoming team-wide engineering lunch. Several hours later I was called into my supervisor's office and it was made clear that "your medium article goes against some of the core engineering values of our organization", and that my decision to publish this article was the deciding factor behind his decision to terminate my position. Within 5 minutes, I was kicked out of GitHub and slack, and escorted out of the office of a company where I had worked for the last three years.
I am scrambling right now to figure out what my options are, my main concern being that I am already in debt, supporting my fiance, etc., and need to get my financials figured out ASAP. I just sent out about 20 applications to various senior software engineer jobs, but I likely will go negative well before any of them gets back to me. If you would like to support me while I figure out my options, and potentially help me fight for my right to intellectual freedom online, please consider visiting the gofundme link at the top of this comment.
Honestly I think this is a great and hilarious promotion and I was super disappointed when it didn't activate my phone when the commercial came on (probably because google had already patched it). If you want to be angry at someone be angry at Google for having a device that listens to everything all the time. The fact that Burger King is able to mess with it just makes Google look bad and Burger King look awesome IMO, but I'm a millennial so what do you expect.
It's their gulity conscience over buying up and killing the Pebble. Serves them right.
When a Slashdot summary, of all places, contains an absurd sentence like this
then I really start to think that we're finally seeing the peak of the rampant leftism that has infected the Internet for the past 8 to 10 years.
I think that average people have finally had enough of this sort of leftism. They just don't want to deal with it any longer. They're tired of the gender confusion imposed by leftists. They're tired of the constant false accusations of racism/sexism/intolerance/etc./etc. coming from leftists. They're tired of petty criminals being portrayed as "martyrs" by leftists. They're tired of "peaceful protests" led by leftists that involve property damage and violence.
Average folks have had enough of it. They want society to return to a state of normalcy and civility. They've had enough of leftism.
How is this at all a "leftist" thing? Bad/trivial entertainment is bad/trivial entertainment. This is no different than what now pollutes prime time on Discovery + History channel ... ice road truckers ... all that crap
not to mention the tons of software, video game launchers, etc., using Electron (though these changes won't be available that far downstream for a while I would think)