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Microsoft Sticks With Controversial 'GVFS' Name Despite Backlash (medium.com)
New submitter DuroSoft writes: It has been over a year since Microsoft unveiled its open source GVFS (Git Virtual File System) project, designed to make terabyte-scale repositories, like it's own 270GB Windows source code, manageable using Git. The problem is that the GNOME project already has a virtual file system by the name of GVfs that has been in use for years, with hundreds of threads on Stack Overflow, etc. Yet Microsoft's GVFS has already surpassed GVfs in Google and is causing confusion. To make matters worse, Microsoft has officially refused to change the name, despite a large public backlash on GitHub and social media, and despite pull requests providing scripts that can change the name to anything Microsoft wants. Is this mere arrogance on Microsoft's part, laziness to do a quick Google search before using a name, or is it something more sinister?
We don't care. We don't have to. We are Microsoft.
give me one reason? they named it git virtual file system. acronym colides with gnome thing. who cares?
They only hear what other people in the boardroom say. This produces only positive feedback, which feels good, but it positive feedback is the same thing that produces an anguished scream when the microphone gets too close to the speaker (:-))
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My money is on this being something sinister. Microsoft has a long history of this.
"We use ALL CAPS in our name. So obviously, WE'RE BETTER. Duh!"
and the obligatory:
"Fuck Linux."
-Microsoft Corp.
Both names are reasonable acronyms. I don't think there's anything malicious, just the normal problem when two entities pick entirely reasonable names and the acronyms collide. It'll work itself out like it always does: people will modify one or both acronyms to clear it up and MS and the Gnome project will live with it.
Microsoft or Gnome? I'm not sure who to hate more.
Gnome's has some lower case letters, while Microsoft's does not. This is a non issue. Just more fake news trying to discredit our beloved Microsoft.
And it is entrenched all over linux systems and distros dating back years.
Furthermore Microsoft is well known for doing this, or reusing identification numbers in ways that break 3rd party software, even when they obviously knew about it before they did.
Change the name of Git's GVFS to Microsoft Virtual File System. See how long it takes for microsoft to change their tune. Then after they sue change the name to MSVFS. Where MS stands for Mother Suckers. Let the lawyers make the argument that Mother Suckers could be confused with MicroSoft.
Some drink at the fountain of knowledge. Others just gargle.
Announcing the GNOME NTfs filesystem: a high performance filesystem tailored for our new HYPer-V virtual container system, part of the new GNOME EX-change server platform.
Virtual Git Filesystem sounds better to be entirely honest.
The only possible reason they would be this obtuse is malicious in intent.
Microsoft have never not been dicks to everyone, even partners.
toot! Or maybe they could change the name to No Turnips File System
would be as stinky. Is it seriously that hard to admit that Git has flaws and limitations and not use it in every possible situation, you have to devote tens of millions of dollars to developing a system to compensate for its problems?
Microsoft sucks at naming things. That's nothing new. These are the people that named their Java like framework ".Net" and named their sql server "Sql Server" making both a pain in the rear to do Internet searches on due to overly generic naming. We're just lucky they didn't name it GIFS.
Remember when Apple decided to use the name iOS for its mobile OS? Jobs and lawyers pressured Cisco for a while in the courts then Cisco walked away. This won't even get to a court.
They wouldn't change the name Windows despite it causing confusion with every other Windowing environment. This is pretty typical MS.
If you need to troubleshoot the MS GVFS it's really simple to search "Microsoft GVFS" or "MS GVFS". But let's be real, your best bet would be to man up and read the official documentation. Reading forums is not best practice.
If the headline was "Open source group harassed by Microsoft" I'd get ready to be mildly upset, but upon learning it was GNOME being harassed I'd quickly switch to being mildly pleased.
Just because it's a big company doesn't mean you need a conspiracy theory to explain it or that the conspiracy theory is the best explanation.
Someone screwed up when they picked the name. Changing it would mean admitting they screwed up and also taking the time and money for a rebranding.
Microsoft is going to buy Git anyway
Microsoft always tries to redefine common, frequently used terms. Its their inane greed that makes them try to get exclusive usage rights for a host of everyday words. Windows was obviously stolen from X Windows, DirectX probably the same. Office, Exchange, Information Server, SQL Server, etc. are typical names of Microsoft. "We are the boss and everybody else must move!"
Personally, I think the copyright/patent/whatever laws should be changed so that each legal entity had to prefix their trade marks with their company name. So it would be Microsoft Windows and Acme Windows and X Foundation Windows, and so on.
We are totally relevant and worth billions!
You are totally irrelevant and worth nothing!
So there!
Who am I supposed to blame for this mess, slashdot? Can I use APK's Hosts File Engine to resolve this conflict?
GNOME can suck it.
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Easier solution: Dissolve Microsoft.
should be Microshit's new corporate motto and advertising slogan, because when you use their product, that's the message you're most likely to see.
It's soo infuriating to turn on a laptop in front of a customer and have to wait for the previous cycle of Windows Updates to complete from when I shut it down at the last customer's site where I also had to sit for 15 minutes after the meeting was over waiting for it to shut down while insisting on running updates.
Don't bother mentioning the ability to turn off forced updates. You ALL know you've been faced with hours/days of your life lost looking at that stupid "Don't turn off your computer" message.
Regarding GFVS, I'm enjoying the big f u from MS to GNOME. Stay classy and oblivious MS; the DOJ couldn't fix you way back when, so why bother caring now.
This is the asshole project that decided to change the names of various utilities to a general name that indicates their function. For instance, the file manager, Nautilus, is now "Files" The media player, Totem, is now known as "Videos". The disk utility, Palimpsest, is now "Disks". Gnome should just change gvfs to "Ghostfiles".
Isn't there a rumor Microsoft is buying GitHub?
As owners they can change the resource naming as they see fit. They can rename GitHub's resource, claim they are making a replacement resource or somehow male it look like the projects are merging.
Seems like a lot of bullshit to go through rather than just changing the name when they first became aware of the conflict, but who says Microsoft is always sensible?
Why the fuck does anyone care now?
"Is this mere arrogance on Microsoft's part, laziness to do a quick Google search before using a name, or is it something more sinister?"
A corollary of Occam's Razor comes to the rescue:
There is no need to invoke maliciousness when mere laziness or stupidity suffices to explain the situation.
It's called Jeffries' Corollary.
Cost only a few hundred dollars to register. Any project of any reasonable size should be filing them.
It was just announced that Microsoft has purchased GitHub, so people who don't like the GVFS name can just...git. And by the way, when "something sinister" is one of the multiple choices for guessing Microsoft's agenda, it's always a safe bet.
https://www.theverge.com/2018/...
You are welcome on my lawn.
"... eaten alive, chewed up and spat out in little pieces."
Too positive about Microsoft. Could be "... eaten alive, chewed up, and excreted as feces."
More sinister
"We are the Microsoft , your unique attributes will be added to ours . Resistance is futile "
"I don't pitch OpenSUSE Linux to my friends, i let Microsoft do it for me
Im wondering if Github has rights to an unregistered trademark vis a vis the Lanham act which has a "prohibition against commercial misrepresentation of source or origins of goods."
Git and Linux are case sensitive, so they're totally different things.
Gnome only lights itself on fire.
* Microsoft infects a host with its parasite, transforms it into a zombie, and uses that to murder others. ... if he's lucky! If not, MS will wear him like an overall.
* Microsoft starves others to death by gobbling up ALL the food.
* Microsoft rips somebody's neocortex and several other organs out of his body, and waits for it to weaken so much, it can eat it
* MS joins the family of everyone it can, in order to impersonate the dad or mom, then changes slight things, until the friends and even kids do not recognize the original parent as a parent anymore, and he dies in some forgotten gutter.
* Microsoft gets caught, and actually manages to get the judge to "punish" him, by letting him inseminate schools.
* Microsoft starts doing the exact same crime it was punished for, the DAY the probation officer leaves!
This list is based solely on things that Microsoft ACTUALLY REALLY DID, from a viewpoint of "corporations are people".
Yeah, if Microsoft was a person, the death penalty would be a *reward*.
The punishment would pobably require creating an actual literal hell, just to accomodate the severety.
Get fucked.
All hail Xfeces!
Microsoft said "Linux is a cancer" because the license it used (GNU GPL).
I believed that when Microsoft contributed to git (or build something related to it, it would use git's license. But no. GVFS is MIT licensed, not GNU GPL + A really bad EULA: https://github.com/Microsoft/G...
Some interesting points from the EULA:
DATA COLLECTION. The software may collect information about you and your use of the software and send that to Microsoft. Microsoft may use this information to provide services and improve Microsoft’s products and services. Your opt-out rights, if any, are described in the product documentation. Some features in the software may enable collection of data from users of your applications that access or use the software. If you use these features to enable data collection in your applications, you must comply with applicable law, including getting any required user consent, and maintain a prominent privacy policy that accurately informs users about how you use, collect, and share their data. You can learn more about Microsoft’s data collection and use in the product documentation and the Microsoft Privacy Statement at https://go.microsoft.com/fwlin.... You agree to comply with all applicable provisions of the Microsoft Privacy Statement.
UPDATES. The software may periodically check for updates, and download and install them for you. You may obtain updates only from Microsoft or authorized sources. Microsoft may need to update your system to provide you with updates. You agree to receive these automatic updates without any additional notice. Updates may not include or support all existing software features, services, or peripheral devices.
Also they avoid the word "GNU" if ever possible. They fear GNU. And make people fear it. (I doubt if Microsoft had something to do with "Code 2 Complete" book which said that some coding style is really bad (which was the GNU style, but didn't name it so). At least, the book was published by Microsoft press)
0 != strcmp("Office Open XML", "Open Office XML")
Cool !
Tell my, where can I get a corporate manager that runs C natively ? I want to get one too...
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It's redundant for most things these days anyway.
Why didn't GNOME make legal efforts to protect the name a year ago? Now it's too late. Not protecting your de facto trademarks when the infringement happens is bad precedent.
Do we really need a who is the biggest arsehole competition?
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But because MS does it they must have some evil plan, right?
In all seriousness though, if their ratings on google and stack overflow already now surpassed the ratings of GVfs, it can't be a really successful project they are pushing out of the market.
It seems rather obvious, doesn't it?
MS has been on a mission to swallow-up as much open source stuff as possible.
It seems safe to speculate the effort is likely to ultimately squash open source value in an effort to increase MS revenue stream.
Notice that they have since made hostile moves to (buy) Github!
Likely another attempt to circumvent legal issues and serve the ultimate purpose (thwart open source stuff).
Self-importance and self-indulgence is the root of ALL evil.
Who honestly gives a real crap about GNOME's gvfs? I mean, apart from the handful of diehard GNOME users who are still left after everyone else couldn't believe that the good, useful GNOME 2 interface could be dropped for one eschewing used control of workspaces and pretending that multiple windows shouldn't be simultaneously seen; the same desktop so far up its own ass that window borders get more screen real estate than content - to the point where the "innovation" is to (non-conformantly) shove application controls into the bloated window decorations.
It's probably the same 7 self-inflated twats who keep standing up for systemd and how it's such a better plan, and how everyone else who has difficulty with it (and GNOME) are the problem, instead of the software which lost sight of the very purpose of software - users.
It's the hate filled, racist, douche bag dog-cow. Anybody got a spare Prozac?
Sorry dog-cow. Black people aren't n:ggers. No matter how many times you try to join the KKK, they don't let old senile dog fuckers join.
Found the dog fucker who fucks his mom and dog at the same time.
Do you lick your mothers pussy with that mouth?
Man, that shit must be filled with cobwebs, moms pussy ain't soft and luscious like it used to be ? Amiright dog-cow?
I am dog-cow, and I approve this message.
There is a very fascinating explanation of why Microsoft did it in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6n3pFFPSlW4. As much as I want to hate Microsoft, I tend to agree.