President Hirohito: There is nothing to worry about. We at Japan Toy Compnay are in awe of your large penis. Mr. Garrison: What? President Hirohito: You see, Japanese penis so small [holds his hands about an inch apart] Mr. Ose: [set his index finger an inch from his thumb] So-eh small. President Hirohito: You Americans have such humungous burbous penis. Mr. Garrison: Well, uh-I guess that's true. Mr. Ose: Oh, suh-n nice-a big penis American. President Hirohito: What can we possubruh do with such small penis? We cannot take over your city, filled witha men awith such mastodonic penis. Jimbo: Huwell, uh he's got a point there. Randy: Well, I guess that settles that. Fr. Maxi: We're sorry we took your time, gentlemen. e. Well, I guess that settles that. We're sorry we took your time, gentlemen.
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Windows doesn't use GDI anymore.
In fact, as much as i dislike Windows overall, their graphics subsystems are much better than Xorg at the moment.
Quite recently Xorg was touting input device detection as a new feature, and on the fly screen switching. These are things Windows, even XP and i think Me, were doing 7 years ago.
X11 just completely ruins Linux for me, it gets in my way constantly, from having to RESTART x11 to add a screen to my laptop while working (losing all my work in the process), to the screen tearing all the time, to the synaptics driver which randomly jumps the mouse to new places while in use.
Given all the problems causes I'm happy to avoid it, even if that means using Windows. Luckily I don't have to make such a horrible choice.
I should donate to a project that makes what i consider VERY poor software? Why?
I would rather pay Apple (who avoided using X11 for a reason) for a complete working system.
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I'm curious why you think broad but lacking hardware support trumps a good working system for you. My experience has been that yes Xorg supports lots of hardware, but poorly, and therefor i have little reason to use it, and in turn i have little reason to use Linux itself BECAUSE the windowing system and input drivers and everything else that is built in to X11 (for some reason) function so poorly.
It's also been my experience that this is typical of community projects and software, ESPECIALLY GPL stuff, people work on the exciting stuff and leave the mundane parts of the system to rot and trail behind more modern systems.
There is no other explanation for me for why Xorg and X11 in general are so poor, no one is being paid to develop them like other competing systems.
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Perhaps if someone were being paid to develop it this wouldn't have happened.
No I agree, having source is important, but here we do have an example of an open source project suffering from a self inflicted vulnerability due entirely to the fact that the code COULD be modified by the maintainers, and then we have a 1+ year period where all the eyes on the code failed to find the problem.
So, source is important, but I would strongly disagree that having the source of a program guarantees you anything at all, in fact it doesn't even guarantee that most people running the program have matching source for their binaries in the first place, most people don't check or can't read C.
Yea, can we at least agree that having the source doesn't guarantee security or privacy?
True, eyes on the code is a good thing, but the debian bug was there since September 2006, so this isn't a shining example of security holes being found and fixed quickly due to having more eyes on the code. I'm not even sure they considered it a bug, someone commented out code on purpose.
I'm making a leap here, but I would have hoped someone in the Debian project was reviewing such HUGE decisions to change the code before pushing it out, but apparently not. I would also hope the same is true of commercial software developers.
BTW, Windows isn't insecure because of mistakes or intentional crippling (most of the time:D), but because Microsoft liked to ignore security concerns in the past, and built a consumer operating system on a platform that wasn't ever intended to operate outside of a closed network.
The recent debian thing was caused by some developers who thought they knew better than the upstream provider, and they ended up SIGNIFICANTLY DESTROYING security in the process.
That wouldn't have happened if they couldn't modify the source in the first place.
See? Having the source isn't a utopia, idiots still screw things up.
You missed a point, if the price of oil rises that much, and you assume that what we really need is energy itself and not oil, eventually something else will become cheap enough to replace oil, even if it is more expensive than oil is right now, it would be less expensive than the price oil would climb to.
For instance, hydrogen production, if cheaper than oil in the future, is a reasonable option. Yes its expensive I'm sure, but if oil is MORE expensive, hydrogen is an option.
So is building nuclear power plants and the infrastructure to distribute that power to electric cars.
SELinux was merged a long time ago, and is in use in certain situations already.
Please stop with the paranoia, or tell me how completely open code can somehow let the NSA spy on you, because thats what people are implying when they bring this crap up.
This is not closed code, nor is it somehow able to hide what it is doing, unless of course you don't read the code before patching mainline with it.
PRNG and ciphers are different, there could be weaknesses in them of course but YOU CAN SEE THE CODE, if you suspect weakness don't use them. No one is applying patches to mainline that they don't understand or can't read.
Yea but prosecution in the US at least has to prove you are guilty, not the other way around. Granted we have some federal laws that require documentation of age for porn actors, but I was under the impression that applied to producers and not simply people who have porn in their possession, so I'm not sure how all this would turn out. In general if the state wants to prosecute someone for something they need to prove you actually did something illegal.
The existence of fake child porn complicates things, but I'm sure there are other similar non-porn-related situations that make it hard for prosecutors to prove their case, doesn't mean we should be making things illegal to make their job easier.
That's the burden of prosecution, you don't ban things just because it makes it easier for law enforcement to prosecute real crime, or to make it easier to just say 'its all illegal'.
Any WRT54G model before v5 can be modified easily, v5+ can sometimes be modified with DD-WRT. And of course they still sell the GL, which is quite worth the price ($60 on amazon) because of how useful it becomes with this alternate firmware. The GL can also be modified and has the advantage of still being sold under a clear model number, so you know you can mod it, unlike others.
On the other hand, there is awesome shaping available in tomato firmware, it can classify traffic and show you what percentage of your traffic was in each class.
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Can you send us a little of that "overthrow government" stuff you guys have up there?
pretty please? we promise to buy lots of maple syrup
honest we will
Perhaps if you made them an offering of some kind.
I hear chairs are all the rage right now
troll huh :D
i knew that was an obscure joke
President Hirohito: There is nothing to worry about. We at Japan Toy Compnay are in awe of your large penis.
Mr. Garrison: What?
President Hirohito: You see, Japanese penis so small [holds his hands about an inch apart]
Mr. Ose: [set his index finger an inch from his thumb] So-eh small.
President Hirohito: You Americans have such humungous burbous penis.
Mr. Garrison: Well, uh-I guess that's true.
Mr. Ose: Oh, suh-n nice-a big penis American.
President Hirohito: What can we possubruh do with such small penis? We cannot take over your city, filled witha men awith such mastodonic penis.
Jimbo: Huwell, uh he's got a point there.
Randy: Well, I guess that settles that.
Fr. Maxi: We're sorry we took your time, gentlemen. e. Well, I guess that settles that. We're sorry we took your time, gentlemen.
Windows doesn't use GDI anymore.
In fact, as much as i dislike Windows overall, their graphics subsystems are much better than Xorg at the moment.
Quite recently Xorg was touting input device detection as a new feature, and on the fly screen switching. These are things Windows, even XP and i think Me, were doing 7 years ago.
X11 just completely ruins Linux for me, it gets in my way constantly, from having to RESTART x11 to add a screen to my laptop while working (losing all my work in the process), to the screen tearing all the time, to the synaptics driver which randomly jumps the mouse to new places while in use.
Given all the problems causes I'm happy to avoid it, even if that means using Windows. Luckily I don't have to make such a horrible choice.
I should donate to a project that makes what i consider VERY poor software? Why?
I would rather pay Apple (who avoided using X11 for a reason) for a complete working system.
I'm curious why you think broad but lacking hardware support trumps a good working system for you. My experience has been that yes Xorg supports lots of hardware, but poorly, and therefor i have little reason to use it, and in turn i have little reason to use Linux itself BECAUSE the windowing system and input drivers and everything else that is built in to X11 (for some reason) function so poorly.
It's also been my experience that this is typical of community projects and software, ESPECIALLY GPL stuff, people work on the exciting stuff and leave the mundane parts of the system to rot and trail behind more modern systems.
There is no other explanation for me for why Xorg and X11 in general are so poor, no one is being paid to develop them like other competing systems.
Perhaps if someone were being paid to develop it this wouldn't have happened.
Didn't you see the goatse troll above? you aren't supposed to be licking the red ring...
No I agree, having source is important, but here we do have an example of an open source project suffering from a self inflicted vulnerability due entirely to the fact that the code COULD be modified by the maintainers, and then we have a 1+ year period where all the eyes on the code failed to find the problem.
So, source is important, but I would strongly disagree that having the source of a program guarantees you anything at all, in fact it doesn't even guarantee that most people running the program have matching source for their binaries in the first place, most people don't check or can't read C.
Yea, can we at least agree that having the source doesn't guarantee security or privacy?
:D), but because Microsoft liked to ignore security concerns in the past, and built a consumer operating system on a platform that wasn't ever intended to operate outside of a closed network.
True, eyes on the code is a good thing, but the debian bug was there since September 2006, so this isn't a shining example of security holes being found and fixed quickly due to having more eyes on the code. I'm not even sure they considered it a bug, someone commented out code on purpose.
I'm making a leap here, but I would have hoped someone in the Debian project was reviewing such HUGE decisions to change the code before pushing it out, but apparently not. I would also hope the same is true of commercial software developers.
BTW, Windows isn't insecure because of mistakes or intentional crippling (most of the time
The recent debian thing was caused by some developers who thought they knew better than the upstream provider, and they ended up SIGNIFICANTLY DESTROYING security in the process.
That wouldn't have happened if they couldn't modify the source in the first place.
See? Having the source isn't a utopia, idiots still screw things up.
You missed a point, if the price of oil rises that much, and you assume that what we really need is energy itself and not oil, eventually something else will become cheap enough to replace oil, even if it is more expensive than oil is right now, it would be less expensive than the price oil would climb to.
For instance, hydrogen production, if cheaper than oil in the future, is a reasonable option. Yes its expensive I'm sure, but if oil is MORE expensive, hydrogen is an option.
So is building nuclear power plants and the infrastructure to distribute that power to electric cars.
Only Bruce Schneier knows for sure
Hell are you kidding?
SELinux was merged a long time ago, and is in use in certain situations already.
Please stop with the paranoia, or tell me how completely open code can somehow let the NSA spy on you, because thats what people are implying when they bring this crap up.
This is not closed code, nor is it somehow able to hide what it is doing, unless of course you don't read the code before patching mainline with it.
PRNG and ciphers are different, there could be weaknesses in them of course but YOU CAN SEE THE CODE, if you suspect weakness don't use them. No one is applying patches to mainline that they don't understand or can't read.
Yea well, if you've ever been to one of their stores, the sign is way up in the air.
Its sort of funny, to see a huge sign up in the air that says DICKS.
That last point is sort of irrelevant, its open source.
If the NSA wants to develop security frameworks they obviously can, and the main kernel devs seem happy to incorporate their work into the kernel.
If you have some reason to not trust SELinux, much as i hate it, do tell.
You know for the cost of one big telescope we could buy a few hundred thousand Tasco refractors.
Man the scopes, america
Yea but prosecution in the US at least has to prove you are guilty, not the other way around. Granted we have some federal laws that require documentation of age for porn actors, but I was under the impression that applied to producers and not simply people who have porn in their possession, so I'm not sure how all this would turn out. In general if the state wants to prosecute someone for something they need to prove you actually did something illegal.
The existence of fake child porn complicates things, but I'm sure there are other similar non-porn-related situations that make it hard for prosecutors to prove their case, doesn't mean we should be making things illegal to make their job easier.
That's the burden of prosecution, you don't ban things just because it makes it easier for law enforcement to prosecute real crime, or to make it easier to just say 'its all illegal'.
That's not how a free society works.
Am I to assume we have rid society of real child porn and therefor law enforcement has time to spend going after animators?
Mission accomplished folks!
Those v8s have bad antennas, and they seem to crash a lot with native firmware.
Any WRT54G model before v5 can be modified easily, v5+ can sometimes be modified with DD-WRT. And of course they still sell the GL, which is quite worth the price ($60 on amazon) because of how useful it becomes with this alternate firmware. The GL can also be modified and has the advantage of still being sold under a clear model number, so you know you can mod it, unlike others.
On the other hand, there is awesome shaping available in tomato firmware, it can classify traffic and show you what percentage of your traffic was in each class.
http://www.polarcloud.com/img/ssqosc108.png
http://www.polarcloud.com/img/ssqosg108.png
http://www.polarcloud.com/tomato
And when they bite they shoot lasers?
That's a good point, also this is perhaps just reference code, it doesn't NEED to be under the GPL.
People are free to write their own implementation under the GPL if they want to, just like they already do for a number of other protocols.