That's because the CD contained proprietary software (MetroX, maybe something else). You could download the free stuff from their ftp server and redistribute it as much as you liked, but not the official CD itself. --
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I just came back from walking my dog to find this. Nothing like ice rain to give you perspective.:)
I reread the original post, and I think this is a difference in interpretation. I think this part is in contention:
There is the question of whether the Church should "interfere" with the State/Internet/Corporations. However, both the Jewish and Christian faiths have done nothing BUT interfere, since their respective foundations.
I think the reference is to religious institutions ("the Church", "the... faiths"). If I'm not mistaken, you think it refers to the individual people who make up the faith. --
I hit the wrong button. Here's where all this leads:
Admittedly there is much hypocrisy. On all sides. Undoubtedly there is a knee-jerk anti-religious reaction borne of ignorance (but there's also a knee-jerk anti-secular reaction by countless religious leaders and their followers).
But, though many people today don't know why this anti-religious sentiment originated (and that forgetting in itself is nothing new), there is a legitimate historical reason for it. It's the same reaction that causes the libertarians to cry out against Government, and assorted groups to cry out against corporations: any institution that becomes large and powerful enough becomes a defacto government that serves itself.
I personally have no comment in this particular booklet, other than to say that it seems like just another church publication addressing some aspect of a believer's life (the Russian Orthodox church, for instance, has countless such publications). --
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Either you missed it, or you are choosing to ignore the historical context of jd's post. Perhaps I can help you understand a bit better where the profound mistrust of organized religion stems from.
Consider just these aspects of Christianity:
The Crusades. A side-effect of the crusades was the sacking of Constantinople by Western Europeans and the general weakening of Byzantium to the point where it was easy pickings for the Turks. Actually, the whole ill-advised enterprise was a direct result of Church "interference" in political matters.
WWII. The Roman Catholic Church was directly responsible for the smuggling out of countless fascists of all stripes (look up the "rat lines" for more information). I don't think this point really needs any further comment.
Look, historically, at what integration between church and state brought us: the inquisition, church-supported feudalism (and attendant serfdom), slavery and warfare, assorted supremacist movements.
Here's where the distrust comes in: the Church sets itself up as the ultimate arbiter of morality: they are the gateway to God. The Church then goes out and says "Yes, the nobles have a right to abuse, rape, kill their serfs. Yes, the rich have a right to own the poor." Or the Church goes out and does those things directly.
Well, since the Church sanctioned all those horrible things, they must be OK! God must approve!
That is why so many people, especially people who have historically been on the receiving end, distrust the Church. The Church is a political institution like any other; in fact the Church has hardly ever been this politically inactive. --
This is especially ironic to me, living in Canada: the only G7 nation with 3rd World policies on economics and future prosperity: "Here, take our lumber, we don't want all the jobs and money that come with processing it ourselves!" --
No, they declare martial law and 'disappear' you, of they just beat the crap out of everyone. That's how it's been done through the ages.
If you accept that this is on a slippery slope to pervasive control, then there's no reason not to expect the application of standard historical techniques of repression. --
Moreover, none of those people are large corporations trying to dethrone the current king of the hill. Corporations are inherently less trustworthy than individuals, given their mandates and organization. --
Funny I have used copiers at various places (such as libraries) and have never been hassled before in my life.
If you ask the nitwits behind the counter, IME you've got a 50-50 chance of being turned away. And it used to be, at least (I haven't been in a copy shop in years) that for anything but simple black and white copies, you had to ask them. --
Your comments on comic-book literacy remind me of a feature in the Toronto Star this fall (big Canadian newspaper). Apparently ~50% of the Canadian populace has day-to-day literacy problems -- they have difficulties leading their daily lives!
In one article, readability metrics were applied to various types of publications. Newspapers were targeted at a level from grade 5 to, if you're really lucky, grade 10. One of the things I remember most about my adolescence is the amazement I experienced every few months at the dramatic increase in my perspective; It's simply impossible to discuss meaningfully at a grade 5 level the things that *must* be discussed for the proper functioning of a nation.
One depressing thing they mentioned was that literacy advocates had largely abandoned the traditional argument that literacy is necessary for democracy, as it is ineffective today. Instead they are harping the economic aspect. --
For too long, the mainstream media have ignored the growing groundswell of opposition to NAFTA, GATT, specific corporate abuses, and unbridled capitalism in general.
They're not ignoring it. They're part of it. They're big corporations too. It's in their (and their owners') interest to ignore these things.
Just how is a media shop supposed to report on the attrocities committed by Corporation X, if X happens to own the shop? --
I've had WD drives die on me. Besides, WD seems to be struggling these days.
Quantum stuff varies in quality from the unusable (e.g. Bigfoot) through the decent (e.g. fireball; I have several at home) to the "I could never afford that".;)
Views are indices, period. They are by nature inflexible, and the selection conditions are static. You can't build up a view design and then change the selection conditions (say, a date range) at runtime. This means that if you need such a thing, you have to replicate it yourself.
What's more, a formula search, as applied to a database, returns an unsorted document collection. When you apply an FTSearch to a view (basically applying a filter to the view), then the documents are returned according to search relevance -- again not by view order.
I hear searching has finally been improved in r5, but in r4, there is no way provided to get a dynamically created collection of the documents you want, sorted the way you want. You have to roll your own.
Obviously my original recursive implementation was dumb even temporarily, and I changed it immediately, but I still think that's a pretty damned small stack. --
CGI-like applications with Domino agents run slowly and high overhead.
The degree to which this is true is incredible. We have 4.6x servers at work. This year, I had several occasions to write agents that needed to sort collections of documents. Imagine my surprise to discover that there's no standard sorting method in LotusScript (Yet Another Glorified Basic).
No problem, I thought, I'll whip up a simple mergesort. My datasets aren't too big.
Seven levels of recursion down, the damned thing runs out of stack space! --
Lotus Quickplace does. Actually, it's quite a cool product, for what it does.
It's fairly brainless to set up the server, then users can set up their own work environments, with full Notes security.
I know it has a threaded discussion area and a file repository, which does convert Office documents to HTML with reasonable fidelity. The Office documents are saved on the backend, and can be edited directly through a Windows interface whose name I can't remember, but I know that Domino.Doc and similar big tools use it too. Basically, saving to and reading from the server are transparent to Windows apps. This is key.
There's also a wysiwyg editor and other goodies.
I expect it isn't too cheap, though, and I think standard Notes licensing applies.
Standard Notes is probably not desired, as it requires a fair bit of customization and masochistic wrangling to get it to do many things. Quickplace, OTOH, is a no-brainer for a certain class of requirements. --
That depends on what you're trying to translate. For nontechnical materials, English is an extremely poor language: the culture just isn't rich enough to express so many concepts and feelings in life and art. Especially since "passion seems to be a dirty word in English. And you can forget about humour.
This might work for bureaucratese, since the underlying subculture seems to transcend human cultures. Same for other subcultures. But you'll never make it fly for general communications, no matter what intermediate representation you use, because so much of what's worth saying can't be translated from one cultural context directly into another, much less via an extra step. --
third was to keep my wrists OFF of the desk. don't rest them on the desk, or even a cushy pad.
That's how you're supposed to play the piano. One thing I've been curious about is why nobody ever considers is how concert pianists -- the really good ones who can play into their 70's -- hold their hands. It's the same principle with computer keyboards: keep your wrists elevated, don't rest them on any surface; there's also an optimal arching of the hands for minimal strain.
Note that I've been told by people who know that it can be difficult to find a piano teacher who knows proper posture, especially in Canada. --
They have a decent postcard service. They're also the people who sued Microsoft for sticking their postcard service in the default junk mailers list of outlook*. --
If you give two boys Barbie dolls, they'll end up beating each other over the head with them. There's been research done in this area, the preferences seem to be inborn not taught.
Do you have references for this? I can only speak from personal experience, but when I was a toddler, I had barbie dolls. My friends and I (we were all about 5 then) would play rough and tumble outside, practice our Mr. T imitations, etc. Then my mother gave us barbie dolls to play with, instead of GI Joes or transformers. After a few minutes, we were all playing with the dolls and their outfits, playing house...
That's why I'm interested in the studies you mention: are the kids examined the same sort of ADD-afflicted, neglected maniacs who like pro wrestling, or was the sample properly selected? --
There's a lot of cool stuff you can do with Notes (I know; I do it), but you need a client to do it. In Notes 4.x, the "designer" is an add-on to the client. In 5, IIRC, it has been decoupled, but you'd still need a port of the designer at least in order to avoid Windows.
Personally, I wish they'd port the client too, so I could get rid of my Windows partition. --
I've considered that argument, and it seems pretty good to me, but one thing that I can't reconcile with it is the concept of civil disobedience.
I agree that some sort of law is necessary which can mediate between individual morals, but what happens when the law conflicts with the morals of a large group of people (for simplification)? At what point is it acceptable for them to protest against that law?
Certainly in the USA there is historical precedent for civil disobedience -- and in other parts of the world, for civil revolts and deposition of governments -- when large groups have been morally opposed to laws.
This issue seems to be a grey area to me.
In the speficic domain of software, what if one is morally opposed to the current corporate world order, and chooses to protest by not financing it further? That's certainly not the motivation of many who copy software illegally, but it *is* a consideration for others. --
The students' union installed it at school, so I gave it a try. It was disorienting to see IE in afterstep...
But you have to admit that pages look gorgeous in it, with antialiasing and all. Sure, it's a pig and it's unusably slow, but that's what you get for re-implementing the font subsystem.
I was really annoyed, though, to find that it requires 800K in one's home directory. And the ondisk cache settings aren't changeable. --
It's getting worse. One of the major points of MAI, I believe--I know it was in a treaty, I just don't remember which one--would have allowed corporations to sue national governments for perceived loss of revenue through such actions as protection of the environment or protection of the citizenry of the host country. --
This was true in Croatia and Bosnia, but not as much in this case: Albanians are not Slavs. In the former cases, however, Croats and Serbs are both Slavs, but they are of different Christian denominations, and much of the animosity stems from this fact.
In Bosnia, there are really only two ethnic groups, the Serbs and Croats, but three religions (a Muslim contingent that converted under Ottoman rule). Actually, the fact of this conversion has led to great animosity as well: the Serbs at least resisted the Turks for centuries and refused to convert (and suffered for it), and the Muslim Slavs are often perceived as traitors. --
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That's because the CD contained proprietary software (MetroX, maybe something else). You could download the free stuff from their ftp server and redistribute it as much as you liked, but not the official CD itself.
--
I reread the original post, and I think this is a difference in interpretation. I think this part is in contention:
There is the question of whether the Church should "interfere" with the State/Internet/Corporations. However, both the Jewish and Christian faiths have done nothing BUT interfere, since their respective foundations.
I think the reference is to religious institutions ("the Church", "the ... faiths"). If I'm not mistaken, you think it refers to the individual people who make up the faith.
--
Admittedly there is much hypocrisy. On all sides. Undoubtedly there is a knee-jerk anti-religious reaction borne of ignorance (but there's also a knee-jerk anti-secular reaction by countless religious leaders and their followers).
But, though many people today don't know why this anti-religious sentiment originated (and that forgetting in itself is nothing new), there is a legitimate historical reason for it. It's the same reaction that causes the libertarians to cry out against Government, and assorted groups to cry out against corporations: any institution that becomes large and powerful enough becomes a defacto government that serves itself.
I personally have no comment in this particular booklet, other than to say that it seems like just another church publication addressing some aspect of a believer's life (the Russian Orthodox church, for instance, has countless such publications).
--
Consider just these aspects of Christianity:
- The Crusades. A side-effect of the crusades was the sacking of Constantinople by Western Europeans and the general weakening of Byzantium to the point where it was easy pickings for the Turks. Actually, the whole ill-advised enterprise was a direct result of Church "interference" in political matters.
- WWII. The Roman Catholic Church was directly responsible for the smuggling out of countless fascists of all stripes (look up the "rat lines" for more information). I don't think this point really needs any further comment.
Look, historically, at what integration between church and state brought us: the inquisition, church-supported feudalism (and attendant serfdom), slavery and warfare, assorted supremacist movements.Here's where the distrust comes in: the Church sets itself up as the ultimate arbiter of morality: they are the gateway to God. The Church then goes out and says "Yes, the nobles have a right to abuse, rape, kill their serfs. Yes, the rich have a right to own the poor." Or the Church goes out and does those things directly.
Well, since the Church sanctioned all those horrible things, they must be OK! God must approve!
That is why so many people, especially people who have historically been on the receiving end, distrust the Church. The Church is a political institution like any other; in fact the Church has hardly ever been this politically inactive.
--
This is especially ironic to me, living in Canada: the only G7 nation with 3rd World policies on economics and future prosperity: "Here, take our lumber, we don't want all the jobs and money that come with processing it ourselves!"
--
If you accept that this is on a slippery slope to pervasive control, then there's no reason not to expect the application of standard historical techniques of repression.
--
Moreover, none of those people are large corporations trying to dethrone the current king of the hill. Corporations are inherently less trustworthy than individuals, given their mandates and organization.
--
If you ask the nitwits behind the counter, IME you've got a 50-50 chance of being turned away. And it used to be, at least (I haven't been in a copy shop in years) that for anything but simple black and white copies, you had to ask them.
--
Your comments on comic-book literacy remind me of a feature in the Toronto Star this fall (big Canadian newspaper). Apparently ~50% of the Canadian populace has day-to-day literacy problems -- they have difficulties leading their daily lives!
In one article, readability metrics were applied to various types of publications. Newspapers were targeted at a level from grade 5 to, if you're really lucky, grade 10. One of the things I remember most about my adolescence is the amazement I experienced every few months at the dramatic increase in my perspective; It's simply impossible to discuss meaningfully at a grade 5 level the things that *must* be discussed for the proper functioning of a nation.
One depressing thing they mentioned was that literacy advocates had largely abandoned the traditional argument that literacy is necessary for democracy, as it is ineffective today. Instead they are harping the economic aspect.
--
They're not ignoring it. They're part of it. They're big corporations too. It's in their (and their owners') interest to ignore these things.
Just how is a media shop supposed to report on the attrocities committed by Corporation X, if X happens to own the shop?
--
Quantum stuff varies in quality from the unusable (e.g. Bigfoot) through the decent (e.g. fireball; I have several at home) to the "I could never afford that". ;)
I've heard very good things about IBM, though.
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What's more, a formula search, as applied to a database, returns an unsorted document collection. When you apply an FTSearch to a view (basically applying a filter to the view), then the documents are returned according to search relevance -- again not by view order.
I hear searching has finally been improved in r5, but in r4, there is no way provided to get a dynamically created collection of the documents you want, sorted the way you want. You have to roll your own.
Obviously my original recursive implementation was dumb even temporarily, and I changed it immediately, but I still think that's a pretty damned small stack.
--
The degree to which this is true is incredible. We have 4.6x servers at work. This year, I had several occasions to write agents that needed to sort collections of documents. Imagine my surprise to discover that there's no standard sorting method in LotusScript (Yet Another Glorified Basic).
No problem, I thought, I'll whip up a simple mergesort. My datasets aren't too big.
Seven levels of recursion down, the damned thing runs out of stack space!
--
It's fairly brainless to set up the server, then users can set up their own work environments, with full Notes security.
I know it has a threaded discussion area and a file repository, which does convert Office documents to HTML with reasonable fidelity. The Office documents are saved on the backend, and can be edited directly through a Windows interface whose name I can't remember, but I know that Domino.Doc and similar big tools use it too. Basically, saving to and reading from the server are transparent to Windows apps. This is key.
There's also a wysiwyg editor and other goodies.
I expect it isn't too cheap, though, and I think standard Notes licensing applies.
Standard Notes is probably not desired, as it requires a fair bit of customization and masochistic wrangling to get it to do many things. Quickplace, OTOH, is a no-brainer for a certain class of requirements.
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This might work for bureaucratese, since the underlying subculture seems to transcend human cultures. Same for other subcultures. But you'll never make it fly for general communications, no matter what intermediate representation you use, because so much of what's worth saying can't be translated from one cultural context directly into another, much less via an extra step.
--
That's how you're supposed to play the piano. One thing I've been curious about is why nobody ever considers is how concert pianists -- the really good ones who can play into their 70's -- hold their hands. It's the same principle with computer keyboards: keep your wrists elevated, don't rest them on any surface; there's also an optimal arching of the hands for minimal strain.
Note that I've been told by people who know that it can be difficult to find a piano teacher who knows proper posture, especially in Canada.
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They have a decent postcard service. They're also the people who sued Microsoft for sticking their postcard service in the default junk mailers list of outlook*.
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Do you have references for this? I can only speak from personal experience, but when I was a toddler, I had barbie dolls. My friends and I (we were all about 5 then) would play rough and tumble outside, practice our Mr. T imitations, etc. Then my mother gave us barbie dolls to play with, instead of GI Joes or transformers. After a few minutes, we were all playing with the dolls and their outfits, playing house...
That's why I'm interested in the studies you mention: are the kids examined the same sort of ADD-afflicted, neglected maniacs who like pro wrestling, or was the sample properly selected?
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www.notesdesign.com
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Personally, I wish they'd port the client too, so I could get rid of my Windows partition.
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I agree that some sort of law is necessary which can mediate between individual morals, but what happens when the law conflicts with the morals of a large group of people (for simplification)? At what point is it acceptable for them to protest against that law?
Certainly in the USA there is historical precedent for civil disobedience -- and in other parts of the world, for civil revolts and deposition of governments -- when large groups have been morally opposed to laws.
This issue seems to be a grey area to me.
In the speficic domain of software, what if one is morally opposed to the current corporate world order, and chooses to protest by not financing it further? That's certainly not the motivation of many who copy software illegally, but it *is* a consideration for others.
--
But you have to admit that pages look gorgeous in it, with antialiasing and all. Sure, it's a pig and it's unusably slow, but that's what you get for re-implementing the font subsystem.
I was really annoyed, though, to find that it requires 800K in one's home directory. And the ondisk cache settings aren't changeable.
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Can you provide some references for this?
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It's getting worse. One of the major points of MAI, I believe--I know it was in a treaty, I just don't remember which one--would have allowed corporations to sue national governments for perceived loss of revenue through such actions as protection of the environment or protection of the citizenry of the host country.
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In Bosnia, there are really only two ethnic groups, the Serbs and Croats, but three religions (a Muslim contingent that converted under Ottoman rule). Actually, the fact of this conversion has led to great animosity as well: the Serbs at least resisted the Turks for centuries and refused to convert (and suffered for it), and the Muslim Slavs are often perceived as traitors.
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