Re:High Warp Restriction?
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One of the fundamental ideas that relativity was derived from is that the ORDER of events is the same for all observers. FTL travel or backwards time travel violates this principle.
Boy do I have to take issue with this. One of the fundamental ideas that relativity was derived from is, in fact, the exact opposite, the idea there is no such thing as the 'same time' for different observers or different events in a different place in space.
If I'm over here, and you're over there,a nd we both do something, we can't ever figure out which of us did it first. In fact, if we attempt to do them at 'the same time', you'll see you do yours first, and I'll see me do mine first. And, thanks to relativity, we can't even sync our clocks without some external source, like a pulsar. Of course, then we have to measure how far away this pulsar is from both of us, which requires our clocks are already synced!
Anyway, what relativity, and all other classical phsyics theories in existence assume, is that it is cause, then effect.
Quantum physics, on the other hand, doesn't always assume things like that. And it also does annoyingly, bring back the idea of 'the same time' with quantum entanglement. Using quantum entanglement means it is possible to send messages faster then light. Which completely blows relativity out of the water.
Basically, FTL is one of the places where QM and relativity differ. It's not too much to hope it will be possibly to 'move' things outside space, thus leading to the interesting idea that maybe you can't go 'faster then light', but you can go 'instantly', as long as you don't go though space to get there.
-David T. C.
Re:High Warp Restriction?
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At Warp 1 it would take 70,000 years to go 70,000 light years.
Of course, I don't think you actually can go warp 1 in the Star Trek universe. I think you can go all the way up to.8 or so on inpulse, then you jump to warp 2. But that may be from a book, and not canon.
Um, did you not pay attention to something mentioned many, many, many times in the show? The Federation wasn't letting Bajor do anything, Bajor was letting the Federation run the base. The wormhole, and station were in Bajorian space, and the station was the legal property of the Bajorian Occupational Government, and thus the Provisional Government after the Cardassians left.
While there are many inconsistences in Star Trek, the treatment of a Federation-run, Bajorian-owned starbase is not one of them, simply because we've never seen that situtation before.
Is $300 dollars nowdays equal to one year in jail? I thought it was more like $500 dollars for a month.
And, yeah, they were one of the original colonies, but that doesn't mean they don't have laws from before joining the US. In fact, only places that existed before joining the US have laws from there, so that's basically the colonies, and Texas, Hawaii, and Puerto Rico, all of which were independent nations that joined the US. I probably forgot a few there, so them too.
Technically, this law would have been constitutional until the...14th (?) amendment passed saying that the first 10 amendments applied to the states.
Don't need to pick holes in the legal disclaimer, you haven't agreed to it. Granted, it's a violation of copyright to forward it, but they can't stop you disclosing the contents.
Even if you did forward it and violate copyright, they wouldn't win anything as damages, a private message email has almost negligent value. (The actual message has almost no value, instead of the information, which you can give away anyway.)
There is a big of a difference between terminating an agreement without payment and refusing to pay (with or without terminating the agreement) money they already owe.
I'm pretty sure radio was invented by Marconi, though I believe there are some who would argue Tesla should get credit.
Yeah, because the fact that Telsa patented various radio systems (patents 645,576 and 649,621) at the same time, along with John Stone, Oliver Lodge, and guy who's first name I can't remember Fleming, is completely unimportant. Let's just pick the guy who got famous by setting up a company and say he did it.
While the idea the Supreme Court ruled Telsa invented the radio is false, the idea that they ruled Marconi didn't isn't false. Almost everything Marconi did was either already done by Lodge, Telsa, Stone, or Fleming, and most of Marconi patents were invalidated in the 1943.
And, yes, this was another example of Tesla getting at least partially screwed and making no money from something. But it certainly wasn't entirely his invention.
I think it is you that shows a lack of understanding of physics. It's now universally decided that QM effects are not due to inexactness of measurement, but rather to the fact a particle does not have a definate position until the waveform collapses. Instead, it is a blurred out probability pattern. Even if we figure out a way to violate the uncertainty priciple, and pin down an exact location and vector, it won't give the particle a location until we measure it.
Sorry, this analogy makes no sense. You create fictional situtation somewhat like copyright infringement, then you assert that it is theft. How is it theft? It's certainly not theft in the eyes of the law. (Neither is copyright infringement, BTW. Completely different sections of law. In fact, in the US, theft is almost always under state law, and copyright infringement is under federal law.)
Don't forget about Morn. If you can't figure out what his name is an anagram of, you need to go back to middle school.;)
Morn also had the running gag that, while he never said anything on camera, he apparently talked people's ears off off camera. This is something like the running gag on Cheers where Norm's wife was never seen. (Or Maris (sp?) on Frasier is never seen, either.)
DS9 had lots of interesting gags like this, and it wasn't just some tripped out way of keeping Morn's actor for getting paid for talking.;) For example, watch the real tribble episode, then watch it where DS9 travel back in time. In the real episode, there are two guys in the lineup after the fight, where Kirk talks to them, with a red uniform, and no one in the fight had one. This is a fairly common nitpick. Well...in the new timeline...O'Brien is wearing a red uniform, and in the fight, and in the lineup! Granted, it doesn't fix anything, cause there's still another guy, but I suspect they gave him a red uniform specifically to have fun with that nitpick.
...let me tell you a little about them.
Many people don't know how they transmit and receive data. They use magnets. (Which, BTW, was the whole point behind the microwave prohibition, cause early microwaves spun off magnetic fields like crazy. Nowdays, microwaves have stopped that, and pacemakers only respond to very strong magnets. Still can't go inside power planets with big generators.)
Anyway, they have a little handheld device used to program the pacemakers using magnetic fields. They can send and receive data, obviously using some sort of modulation.
Now, pacemakers have all sorts of data that can programmed, like 'threshholds', which is how small a voltage in the patient's heart triggers a real voltage, and various other stuff, and they give out all sorts of data like how much battery life they have and how often they get triggered, and even patient's average heartbeat.
Now, all this data is completely unaccessable to me. Forget reprogramming, I can't even check the batteries. It would be nice to be able to access this information, but I have a few questions...first of all...WHAT THE HELL TOOK THEM SO LONG? Seriously. They go from no access at all to remote telemetry? Sheesh.
How about just giving me a handheld device to access it? Or a dialup phone access. I mean, we'd need a handheld device to hold against it anyway. Why haven't they come out with the thing earlier, to let us read it, without a computer link? Wouldn't have to be much, simply a 'magnetic modulator' and a tiny LED screen.
This comment, of course, has no relation to the topic it's posted in, which is, duh, about fixing, forever, certain genetic defects so all their decendants won't need medicine or any kind of technology.
Sheesh, this comment has been made at least twice tonight, and I've barely read 20 of them so far. If you truely believe that medicine is keeping weak-gened people alive, then you have three choices.
a) Live with it, make it where people need millions of drugs before the age of two just to stay alive.
b) Blow up hospitals or someone destroy medical science.
c) FIX THE FRICKING GENES! Sheesh! If you honesstly believe what you just wrote, fixing genes is a good thing! Sure, we can't fix all diseases, but we can fix inheritable ones.
If medicine keeps a person alive, with bad genes, and they have a kid, with fixed genes...duh, everyone came out ahead! And with this tech, eventually we'll get rid of or reduce things that are bad, but don't kill people before they reproduce, like Alheimers and (tendence towards) high blood pressure.
Erm...are you on the right article? A) This does get passed on to their kids, and B) This is stopping people from being infertile.
You point doesn't make anysense, anyway. Yes, modern medicine is letting bad genes reproduce,but, um...this just fixed some bad genes. You point would be valid only if this was some other type of cure.
I love how you mention the effects of enviromental movement now (and I could argue with you about it currently being wacko. They try to fight nuclear power plants, while coal and gas powerplants kill more people a year then have ever died to nuclear power, and promote blatently silly things like recycling glass, like we'll run out of the most common material in the earth's crust.), but you said you can't think of an example of those things working ever. I didn't claim they worked now, I said they have worked in the past. For example, again, the enviromental movement, which is mainly due to yelling at congresscritters, with some protesting, and the civil rights movement, which was more vice versa.
IMNSHO, the Chinese government is being too weak! Why the heck are they letting the US look at the plane? They should have said 'You get your people, cause we're nice, and don't want to keep POWs, and we get the plane.'. Are we going to be expected to hand spying equipment we take from them back?
I really wonder if China is either going to ask some favor, or has something bad they're doing they feel will come out soon, and want some good PR first.
Maybe...depends on the contracts you have with the company. RFQs aren't the same as calling up the place and just asking, there are legal aspects to them, such as non-disclosure agreements and binding promises. It's entirely possibly that putting in a penalty for disclosing the information is 100% legal.
Nevertheless, it's certainly legal to put it in the contract with the company that the company may not disclose the information, so that if they turn you in for a few beads and baubles, they either lose the sale or they are liable for the costs.;)
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Boy do I have to take issue with this. One of the fundamental ideas that relativity was derived from is, in fact, the exact opposite, the idea there is no such thing as the 'same time' for different observers or different events in a different place in space.
If I'm over here, and you're over there,a nd we both do something, we can't ever figure out which of us did it first. In fact, if we attempt to do them at 'the same time', you'll see you do yours first, and I'll see me do mine first. And, thanks to relativity, we can't even sync our clocks without some external source, like a pulsar. Of course, then we have to measure how far away this pulsar is from both of us, which requires our clocks are already synced!
Anyway, what relativity, and all other classical phsyics theories in existence assume, is that it is cause, then effect.
Quantum physics, on the other hand, doesn't always assume things like that. And it also does annoyingly, bring back the idea of 'the same time' with quantum entanglement. Using quantum entanglement means it is possible to send messages faster then light. Which completely blows relativity out of the water.
Basically, FTL is one of the places where QM and relativity differ. It's not too much to hope it will be possibly to 'move' things outside space, thus leading to the interesting idea that maybe you can't go 'faster then light', but you can go 'instantly', as long as you don't go though space to get there.
-David T. C.
Of course, I don't think you actually can go warp 1 in the Star Trek universe. I think you can go all the way up to .8 or so on inpulse, then you jump to warp 2. But that may be from a book, and not canon.
-David T. C.
While there are many inconsistences in Star Trek, the treatment of a Federation-run, Bajorian-owned starbase is not one of them, simply because we've never seen that situtation before.
-David T. C.
Most of them wouldn't have to rerelease their code, their software is licensed under GPL2 or later.
-David T. C.
And, yeah, they were one of the original colonies, but that doesn't mean they don't have laws from before joining the US. In fact, only places that existed before joining the US have laws from there, so that's basically the colonies, and Texas, Hawaii, and Puerto Rico, all of which were independent nations that joined the US. I probably forgot a few there, so them too.
Technically, this law would have been constitutional until the...14th (?) amendment passed saying that the first 10 amendments applied to the states.
-David T. C.
Even if you did forward it and violate copyright, they wouldn't win anything as damages, a private message email has almost negligent value. (The actual message has almost no value, instead of the information, which you can give away anyway.)
-David T. C.
There is a big of a difference between terminating an agreement without payment and refusing to pay (with or without terminating the agreement) money they already owe.
-David T. C.
Yeah, because the fact that Telsa patented various radio systems (patents 645,576 and 649,621) at the same time, along with John Stone, Oliver Lodge, and guy who's first name I can't remember Fleming, is completely unimportant. Let's just pick the guy who got famous by setting up a company and say he did it.
While the idea the Supreme Court ruled Telsa invented the radio is false, the idea that they ruled Marconi didn't isn't false. Almost everything Marconi did was either already done by Lodge, Telsa, Stone, or Fleming, and most of Marconi patents were invalidated in the 1943.
And, yes, this was another example of Tesla getting at least partially screwed and making no money from something. But it certainly wasn't entirely his invention.
-David T. C.
Um, was this law, perchance, passed before Massachusetts joined the United States?
-David T. C.
I think it is you that shows a lack of understanding of physics. It's now universally decided that QM effects are not due to inexactness of measurement, but rather to the fact a particle does not have a definate position until the waveform collapses. Instead, it is a blurred out probability pattern. Even if we figure out a way to violate the uncertainty priciple, and pin down an exact location and vector, it won't give the particle a location until we measure it.
-David T. C.
Sorry, this analogy makes no sense. You create fictional situtation somewhat like copyright infringement, then you assert that it is theft. How is it theft? It's certainly not theft in the eyes of the law. (Neither is copyright infringement, BTW. Completely different sections of law. In fact, in the US, theft is almost always under state law, and copyright infringement is under federal law.)
-David T. C.
I do not understand this comment. Isn't that like saying 'Watch those Jews grovel once I've cornered the market on pork.'? ;)
-David T. C.
Morn also had the running gag that, while he never said anything on camera, he apparently talked people's ears off off camera. This is something like the running gag on Cheers where Norm's wife was never seen. (Or Maris (sp?) on Frasier is never seen, either.)
DS9 had lots of interesting gags like this, and it wasn't just some tripped out way of keeping Morn's actor for getting paid for talking. ;) For example, watch the real tribble episode, then watch it where DS9 travel back in time. In the real episode, there are two guys in the lineup after the fight, where Kirk talks to them, with a red uniform, and no one in the fight had one. This is a fairly common nitpick. Well...in the new timeline...O'Brien is wearing a red uniform, and in the fight, and in the lineup! Granted, it doesn't fix anything, cause there's still another guy, but I suspect they gave him a red uniform specifically to have fun with that nitpick.
-David T. C.
Anyway, they have a little handheld device used to program the pacemakers using magnetic fields. They can send and receive data, obviously using some sort of modulation.
Now, pacemakers have all sorts of data that can programmed, like 'threshholds', which is how small a voltage in the patient's heart triggers a real voltage, and various other stuff, and they give out all sorts of data like how much battery life they have and how often they get triggered, and even patient's average heartbeat.
Now, all this data is completely unaccessable to me. Forget reprogramming, I can't even check the batteries. It would be nice to be able to access this information, but I have a few questions...first of all...WHAT THE HELL TOOK THEM SO LONG? Seriously. They go from no access at all to remote telemetry? Sheesh.
How about just giving me a handheld device to access it? Or a dialup phone access. I mean, we'd need a handheld device to hold against it anyway. Why haven't they come out with the thing earlier, to let us read it, without a computer link? Wouldn't have to be much, simply a 'magnetic modulator' and a tiny LED screen.
-David T. C.
Sheesh, this comment has been made at least twice tonight, and I've barely read 20 of them so far. If you truely believe that medicine is keeping weak-gened people alive, then you have three choices.
a) Live with it, make it where people need millions of drugs before the age of two just to stay alive.
b) Blow up hospitals or someone destroy medical science.
c) FIX THE FRICKING GENES! Sheesh! If you honesstly believe what you just wrote, fixing genes is a good thing! Sure, we can't fix all diseases, but we can fix inheritable ones.
If medicine keeps a person alive, with bad genes, and they have a kid, with fixed genes...duh, everyone came out ahead! And with this tech, eventually we'll get rid of or reduce things that are bad, but don't kill people before they reproduce, like Alheimers and (tendence towards) high blood pressure.
-David T. C.
You point doesn't make anysense, anyway. Yes, modern medicine is letting bad genes reproduce,but, um...this just fixed some bad genes. You point would be valid only if this was some other type of cure.
-David T. C.
I love how you mention the effects of enviromental movement now (and I could argue with you about it currently being wacko. They try to fight nuclear power plants, while coal and gas powerplants kill more people a year then have ever died to nuclear power, and promote blatently silly things like recycling glass, like we'll run out of the most common material in the earth's crust.), but you said you can't think of an example of those things working ever. I didn't claim they worked now, I said they have worked in the past. For example, again, the enviromental movement, which is mainly due to yelling at congresscritters, with some protesting, and the civil rights movement, which was more vice versa.
-David T. C.
Of course, some of us use devfs for /dev. ;)
-David T. C.
All these are because of protestors, or yelling at congress critters, or lawyers.
-David T. C.
I really wonder if China is either going to ask some favor, or has something bad they're doing they feel will come out soon, and want some good PR first.
-David T. C.
Don't be crazy, where would we find billions of AOL CDs?
-David T. C.
GODWIN!
-David T. C.
We would, except "education" = "bad". :)
-David T. C.
Of course, everyone calls it the 'United States' and it had a civil war in fairly recent history! ;)
-David T. C.
Nevertheless, it's certainly legal to put it in the contract with the company that the company may not disclose the information, so that if they turn you in for a few beads and baubles, they either lose the sale or they are liable for the costs. ;)
-David T. C.