Life, Shmife! We are not focusing on the most important aspect of this report. The key is that there is sizable amounts water available in (relatively) nearby orbits outside of any significant gravity well.
You really don't consider the Sun to have a significant gravity well?
(*) = Here is what a real leading theory for abiogenisis looks like; "no ridiculous improbability, no supernatural forces, no lightning striking a puddle, just chemistry", and with a great soundtrack to boot!
Has it?? i've been running beta2 for a few weeks and it dual boots Win7 just fine. Did they break something?
Yes. The Betas worked fine, the RC broke the installer. That is why RC systems can be safely upgraded to 10.04, but new installs should use a new, release iso.
Yes, my 9.10 install has both the internal speakers and the headphones muted now. I see them muted in alsamixer (well, not MM but rather 00), and I cannot turn the volume up on either. Maddening!
You must have some kind of influence here. Any comment I've ever made about a bug in Linux has been modded down.
That depends on if it is worded as "Linux sux because of bug foobar" or as "Ubuntu sux because of bug barfoo". Real Linux fanbois hate Ubuntu, so word carefully!
I know, it is a complicated issue. But the point to remember is that Liberia takes on a responsibility when it allows ships to fly her flag. It is the head of the responsibility chain, to be sure.
> Its like arguing that since a california plate car ran you > over, you gotta sue the Californian DMV.
Well, actually, I would approach the Californian DMV requesting them investigate the issue provided that I had the plate number. However, the difference here is that the perpetrator is not representing California, in contrast to flags of convenience which _are_ considered representation.
For that matter, I'm pretty sure the same was possible before we started doing this with software - it was certainly possible with film slides as well.
To err is human. But to really fuck things up you need a computer.
In the real world? It means that Liberia is subjecting it's flagged ships to increased scrutiny. It means that captains are warned, and new registrations are stringent.
If there would be such an attack, I would imagine the US attacking a Liberian port, not Liberian ships at first. But the US is trigger happy, and after two western-owned Liberian-registered ships are sank the Liberian registry will fall apart. Bahamas and Panama will enact strict registration guidelines and port security around the world will tighten.
Oh, and you and me will pay for the increased port security and the rush to registration with increased shipping costs. That means inflation, because _everything_ is shipped. Though in the end, increased shipping costs might just help the US bring manufacturing back onto it's own shores.
A Liberian flagged, British owned, mixed Chinese-Malasian-Indian crewed ship fires Russian missiles at a US carrier? Whose merchant marine are you gonna blow up?
Liberia carries the responsibility in this case. And with her huge (third only to Panama and Bermuda) registry [1], that is a lot of ships that will become targets. I suspect that Liberia, Panama and Bermuda already take this seriously.
Another related turd is that merchant ships have been used to transfer weapons in recent memory. Israel detained the Karine A in 2002 and at least one other ship recently.
What I don't understand is why people think we have any resources here that they couldn't get much easier closer to home. If they have technology advanced enough to get here, they can already make anything the Earth can supply.
We can make diamonds, yet we still kill Africans for their natural ones. Artificial markets and such. I wonder if there is an intragalatic DeBeers.
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That's my birthday you insensitive clod!
Posting from the womb, are we? Get off my... uh... well, all right, enjoy yourself a bit first.
Mine is also 10-10, but 33 years ago!
I figured with a Pink Floyd sig you'd appreciate that. The rest of the album is very heavy and hard to get into, but after a listen or two it's great.
... but the remnants of a planet which once teemed with many different lifeforms, just like ours...
...and then formed our moon:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giant_impact_hypothesis
I also read that wrong:
I opened TFA just to figure out what was wrong with the first 23.
Life, Shmife! We are not focusing on the most important aspect of this report. The key is that there is sizable amounts water available in (relatively) nearby orbits outside of any significant gravity well.
You really don't consider the Sun to have a significant gravity well?
(*) = Here is what a real leading theory for abiogenisis looks like; "no ridiculous improbability, no supernatural forces, no lightning striking a puddle, just chemistry", and with a great soundtrack to boot!
Pantera (with a lot of help from Sabbath) did one two:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gym2UXYRz98
(note that this damned Pulse Audio is broken and I can't listen to it!)
how many asteriods must have crashed into the earth to get all the oceans???
Minimum seven, if each one falls into a different ocean.
I know, I feel the same way. You should see the flame on get on the Debian list when I mention that I use Debian-derived Kubuntu. Oh, the humanity!
Has it?? i've been running beta2 for a few weeks and it dual boots Win7 just fine. Did they break something?
Yes. The Betas worked fine, the RC broke the installer. That is why RC systems can be safely upgraded to 10.04, but new installs should use a new, release iso.
You said it, fixing bugs is not cool.
Yes, my 9.10 install has both the internal speakers and the headphones muted now. I see them muted in alsamixer (well, not MM but rather 00), and I cannot turn the volume up on either. Maddening!
Why is that a bug? MS hasn't ever detected dual boot properly.
You are mistaken. My 98SE disk detected _both_ boots just fine, I still have the pieces to prove it!
You must have some kind of influence here. Any comment I've ever made about a bug in Linux has been modded down.
That depends on if it is worded as "Linux sux because of bug foobar" or as "Ubuntu sux because of bug barfoo". Real Linux fanbois hate Ubuntu, so word carefully!
There are lots of "little regressions" in 10.04, for example this one that affects ATI-powered notebooks:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/537640
This is shaping up to be one buggy release!
I know, it is a complicated issue. But the point to remember is that Liberia takes on a responsibility when it allows ships to fly her flag. It is the head of the responsibility chain, to be sure.
> Its like arguing that since a california plate car ran you
> over, you gotta sue the Californian DMV.
Well, actually, I would approach the Californian DMV requesting them investigate the issue provided that I had the plate number. However, the difference here is that the perpetrator is not representing California, in contrast to flags of convenience which _are_ considered representation.
For that matter, I'm pretty sure the same was possible before we started doing this with software - it was certainly possible with film slides as well.
To err is human. But to really fuck things up you need a computer.
In the real world? It means that Liberia is subjecting it's flagged ships to increased scrutiny. It means that captains are warned, and new registrations are stringent.
If there would be such an attack, I would imagine the US attacking a Liberian port, not Liberian ships at first. But the US is trigger happy, and after two western-owned Liberian-registered ships are sank the Liberian registry will fall apart. Bahamas and Panama will enact strict registration guidelines and port security around the world will tighten.
Oh, and you and me will pay for the increased port security and the rush to registration with increased shipping costs. That means inflation, because _everything_ is shipped. Though in the end, increased shipping costs might just help the US bring manufacturing back onto it's own shores.
A Liberian flagged, British owned, mixed Chinese-Malasian-Indian crewed ship fires Russian missiles at a US carrier? Whose merchant marine are you gonna blow up?
Liberia carries the responsibility in this case. And with her huge (third only to Panama and Bermuda) registry [1], that is a lot of ships that will become targets. I suspect that Liberia, Panama and Bermuda already take this seriously.
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_convenience
Hate to float a turd but...
Another related turd is that merchant ships have been used to transfer weapons in recent memory. Israel detained the Karine A in 2002 and at least one other ship recently.
Well, alright, but maybe at least enough time to write a virus on a Macbook.
Maybe, but terrestrial internet latency sure beats the 20-minute lag from Mars. Maybe they just want to play WoW.
Actually, I haven't, but I will take a look. Thanks!
What I don't understand is why people think we have any resources here that they couldn't get much easier closer to home. If they have technology advanced enough to get here, they can already make anything the Earth can supply.
We can make diamonds, yet we still kill Africans for their natural ones. Artificial markets and such. I wonder if there is an intragalatic DeBeers.
I think that our "damaged ecosystem" is more hospital than any of the other rocky planets in our system.
Depends on what' valuable to them. If they have solar-powered robotic craft but need oxygen and nitrogen shipped back home, it would be a good deal.
Or, they might like the taste of soft, exotic vertebrates.