In OS X, option-left and option-right skip one word to the left or right respectively. This has been the case since the first release of MacOS in 1984. Windows did not exist then, and there were no standards in early X11 toolkits (there still aren't - in 2005 I was using an X11 desktop and had four applications open with different shortcuts in text fields - gtk, tk, Qt and XUL were all doing things subtly differently). Windows standardised on control-left/right, because PCs didn't have an option key and alt was used for the menu (because PCs didn't have a meta key either). It's nothing to do with OS X 'innovating' and 'using non-standard shortcuts,' it's to do with Qt refusing to respect a core element of a user interface that has remained unchanged on a platform for 24 years.
I did not realize that it went so far back. I had last used Macs in the late 80's, when the screen was B/W and it was the first real GUI that I had seen. It could be that I was not using the keyboard shortcuts at that time yet. Macs did not catch on in my country, unfortunately.
What are these IE-only websites I keep hearing about? Somehow I never seem to encounter them. (Though back in firefox's infancy they weren't too uncommon, as I recall).
They seem restricted to the Israeli internet lately, I agree. There are almost no major Israeli websites that function properly in Firefox. I'm not talking about minor display issues- I'm talking about being unable to even click links or submit forms, and pages not displaying at all. Look at this beauty in Fx, and then in IE if you have it, for a typical example: http://www.orange.co.il/catalog/
Have you ever used a Qt application on OS X? They stick out like a sore thumb. I think they've possibly fixed it in later versions, but until recently even trivial things like the keyboard shortcuts for skipping forwards and backwards one word in a text field were different from every other OS X application. The menus usually have a different structure, the preferences panels are typically horrendous, the services menu doesn't work correctly - they're so frustrating to use that they're typically not worth the bother.
Do you mean to say that OS-X breaks convention by using non-standard keyboard shortcuts? The menu differences I could understand, there is no innovation without change and OS-X is a very innovative OS. However, I use Ubuntu with KDE at home, the mother-in-law is on Ubuntu with Gnome at her place, and I use Windows XP at the university. All these OSes have more or less the same keyboard shortcuts, as well as the applications that run on them. I am a heavy keyboard user so I would find it unwieldy to use a machine with shortcuts that differ from those in convention for the 20 years that I've been using computers. So much has changed in that time, but the muscle memory in my fingers can always find it's way around any new application that sticks to convention.
Unfortunatelly, Firefox wasn't close at all; it simply shifted the mindset in most places from "we support only IE" to "we support only IE and Firefox".
While I agree with you, I must say that IE+Fx is better than IE-only, even for Opera users, as it is a cross-platform solution. It now boils down (for the most part) to an issue of user preference, rather than locking out specific OS's. Of course, there are platforms that Opera runs on that do not have a Trident or Gecko based browser available, but none of those are used as common PC's.
They still have a near monopoly on the entire Linux desktop market!
Truth is, I don't really care if Chrome runs under Linux or not. What _is_ important is that there is a lot of buzz about a non-IE browser out there, and that will help Linux users no matter which browser they use. Chrome will get the attention of at least some PHBs and Frontpa^w webdevs who code IE-only websites. I have been complaining about this for years but now there finally is a product that they will have a hard time ignoring. Firefox was close, but was only talked about by gearheads. Even my mother-in-law asked me about Chrome. Which is too bad, as she's on Ubuntu and feels left out...
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I was just making a pun at your expense. See, I'm no better!
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What about the British? They spell truck "l o r r y", and arbitrarily add "u"s to words like color and honor.
Based on the way you talk about the British, I understand why the "you" is missing in your version of honour.
You can tell whether or not your mac hibernated easily. If it wakes up instantly on a key press it was sleeping. If it needs the power plugged in, and comes back to a greyscale filtered version of what you were working on and a progress bar, then it was hibernating.
What state was mine in? I pushed the button and it said "BRAAAAAIIIINS!!!"
Just wondering here, how would a move like this affect marketing of computers? The previous model had an up to 10 hour battery life, the new ultra better omgwtfbbq more magnificent version has "Up to 4, but we're not lying to you this time!
The new figure is time to 0% power. The old figure was time to explosion.
Very cool that you stand up for your OS. I'm not fanboi but if we are not vocal about our _existence_ then nobody will ever write software for our platform.
You are right, 200 GB is enough to handle the ads. I was simply making a point but 200 GB is enough to cover even downloads that the user does not want.
I was given a link to http://www.eyeballchat.com/ from a GIRL a day or so ago and that seems to be a SIP + XMPP client in one package, and also got past firewalls, but sadly it's Windows only so I haven't tried it:(
What a novel idea- get GIRLs to give out links. That's how to get/.ers to download software from companies they've never heard of.
By the way, if the software Windows-only, then write to the devs and let them know that there is demand for their software on Linux || Mac || your OS of choice. If you don't ask for it then the devs will never know.
So I got my ammo ready and made some speed tests in firefox with Adblock+ and Tamper Data, which clearly showed that all the load time was the external ads.
Could you elaborate on that last part? I would like to see just how much of my waiting is ads, and how much is content. Thanks!
If someone's downloading 200 gigabytes of webpages every month, they're probably not browsing Slashdot.
Unless they don't have adblock.
Go download httpfox and look at where your bandwidth goes browsing the web. I get over 40% of my bandwidth in advertising, because I am too stubborn to install adblock.
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In OS X, option-left and option-right skip one word to the left or right respectively. This has been the case since the first release of MacOS in 1984. Windows did not exist then, and there were no standards in early X11 toolkits (there still aren't - in 2005 I was using an X11 desktop and had four applications open with different shortcuts in text fields - gtk, tk, Qt and XUL were all doing things subtly differently). Windows standardised on control-left/right, because PCs didn't have an option key and alt was used for the menu (because PCs didn't have a meta key either). It's nothing to do with OS X 'innovating' and 'using non-standard shortcuts,' it's to do with Qt refusing to respect a core element of a user interface that has remained unchanged on a platform for 24 years.
I did not realize that it went so far back. I had last used Macs in the late 80's, when the screen was B/W and it was the first real GUI that I had seen. It could be that I was not using the keyboard shortcuts at that time yet. Macs did not catch on in my country, unfortunately.
What are these IE-only websites I keep hearing about? Somehow I never seem to encounter them. (Though back in firefox's infancy they weren't too uncommon, as I recall).
They seem restricted to the Israeli internet lately, I agree. There are almost no major Israeli websites that function properly in Firefox. I'm not talking about minor display issues- I'm talking about being unable to even click links or submit forms, and pages not displaying at all. Look at this beauty in Fx, and then in IE if you have it, for a typical example:
http://www.orange.co.il/catalog/
Have you ever used a Qt application on OS X? They stick out like a sore thumb. I think they've possibly fixed it in later versions, but until recently even trivial things like the keyboard shortcuts for skipping forwards and backwards one word in a text field were different from every other OS X application. The menus usually have a different structure, the preferences panels are typically horrendous, the services menu doesn't work correctly - they're so frustrating to use that they're typically not worth the bother.
Do you mean to say that OS-X breaks convention by using non-standard keyboard shortcuts? The menu differences I could understand, there is no innovation without change and OS-X is a very innovative OS. However, I use Ubuntu with KDE at home, the mother-in-law is on Ubuntu with Gnome at her place, and I use Windows XP at the university. All these OSes have more or less the same keyboard shortcuts, as well as the applications that run on them. I am a heavy keyboard user so I would find it unwieldy to use a machine with shortcuts that differ from those in convention for the 20 years that I've been using computers. So much has changed in that time, but the muscle memory in my fingers can always find it's way around any new application that sticks to convention.
Unfortunatelly, Firefox wasn't close at all; it simply shifted the mindset in most places from "we support only IE" to "we support only IE and Firefox".
While I agree with you, I must say that IE+Fx is better than IE-only, even for Opera users, as it is a cross-platform solution. It now boils down (for the most part) to an issue of user preference, rather than locking out specific OS's. Of course, there are platforms that Opera runs on that do not have a Trident or Gecko based browser available, but none of those are used as common PC's.
They still have a near monopoly on the entire Linux desktop market!
Truth is, I don't really care if Chrome runs under Linux or not. What _is_ important is that there is a lot of buzz about a non-IE browser out there, and that will help Linux users no matter which browser they use. Chrome will get the attention of at least some PHBs and Frontpa^w webdevs who code IE-only websites. I have been complaining about this for years but now there finally is a product that they will have a hard time ignoring. Firefox was close, but was only talked about by gearheads. Even my mother-in-law asked me about Chrome. Which is too bad, as she's on Ubuntu and feels left out...
I was just making a pun at your expense. See, I'm no better!
Take care.
What about the British? They spell truck "l o r r y", and arbitrarily add "u"s to words like color and honor.
Based on the way you talk about the British, I understand why the "you" is missing in your version of honour.
Let's try reading a little harder next time, ok?
Alright, lets. I'm willing to learn, please be specific and show me where I errred.
So by "Everyone should read that" the poster meant "hey it also includes the tiny number of people running Linux".
Really? By your logic, I would read the word "everybody" and stop there, thinking that it would be Windows-specific information.
The poster directly implied that the number of people running Linux is tiny, but you thought he said the opposite.
I really do not see where this was implied, nor do I see where I refuted, nor do I see the relevance.
Everyone should read that, it's good for most computers running Linux.
You highly overestimates "everyone's" choice of computer.
You can tell whether or not your mac hibernated easily. If it wakes up instantly on a key press it was sleeping. If it needs the power plugged in, and comes back to a greyscale filtered version of what you were working on and a progress bar, then it was hibernating.
What state was mine in? I pushed the button and it said "BRAAAAAIIIINS!!!"
Or until a lot of people and magazines wonder why the hell they lie to us, since we can never reach the battery time stated on the box. Like now.
What are you talking about? My battery always lasts at lea
Just wondering here, how would a move like this affect marketing of computers? The previous model had an up to 10 hour battery life, the new ultra better omgwtfbbq more magnificent version has "Up to 4, but we're not lying to you this time!
The new figure is time to 0% power. The old figure was time to explosion.
Very cool that you stand up for your OS. I'm not fanboi but if we are not vocal about our _existence_ then nobody will ever write software for our platform.
And get something new and awesomer in the skies to replace it.
Something that could get people going wow again would be nice.
I would also like a pony.
A _winged_ pony?
You are right, 200 GB is enough to handle the ads. I was simply making a point but 200 GB is enough to cover even downloads that the user does not want.
You really should take a look at the /. headers, they are full of X-* jokes and puns.
I was given a link to http://www.eyeballchat.com/ from a GIRL a day or so ago and that seems to be a SIP + XMPP client in one package, and also got past firewalls, but sadly it's Windows only so I haven't tried it :(
What a novel idea- get GIRLs to give out links. That's how to get /.ers to download software from companies they've never heard of.
By the way, if the software Windows-only, then write to the devs and let them know that there is demand for their software on Linux || Mac || your OS of choice. If you don't ask for it then the devs will never know.
Interesting article. Covers an interesting part that not everyone know much about.
And if I wanted to know about it I would have loaded an encyclopedia, not news for nerds.
So I got my ammo ready and made some speed tests in firefox with Adblock+ and Tamper Data, which clearly showed that all the load time was the external ads.
Could you elaborate on that last part? I would like to see just how much of my waiting is ads, and how much is content. Thanks!
If someone's downloading 200 gigabytes of webpages every month, they're probably not browsing Slashdot.
Unless they don't have adblock.
Go download httpfox and look at where your bandwidth goes browsing the web. I get over 40% of my bandwidth in advertising, because I am too stubborn to install adblock.
You can be pretty damn sure the contracts are so onesided the company isn't required to really do anything.
I had this problem with a cellphone company once. Nowhere in the contract does it say that they have to actually provide the service they are selling.
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Here's hoping for +5 Troll!
If the fags come from Calais, where do the dikes come from? The Netherlands?
And stumbleupon blocking your IP?
I like mwave.com myself
I have been buying from them for over ten years now and never any problems.
I still stick with newegg, especially when they have sales.