Tracemonkey was faster than Chrome. I think it's odd that Chrome was slower than at work considering my home machine has much better parts. Chalk it up to Vista 64bit or something, I dunno.
Which one is the Vista 64 bit machine? What OS is the other?
You know one thing I find annoying? Users that find bugs and never tell you about them.
You know one thing I find annoying? Users that complain "there is no software available for [Linux|Mac]" and never write to software developers to let them know that they want their software to run on their platform of choice.
You want something, let the devs know. In the case of Firefox, or any other application with a public bugzilla or other users-to-devs communication medium, there is no excuse.
The ad was a complete success. Can you believe that, after reading about it on Google News, I actually sought out and watched the commercial? Can you believe that right this very moment you are reading some unimportant commentary by someone whose opinion doesn't matter whatsoever about a TV commercial?
Score one for Microsoft.
Yeah, but did you watch it on CHROME?!?
Got to get the whole interwebs buzzing about something else this week.
THe defacto naming convention, thats what. While technically you are right, common usage in this context has altered the meaning a bit. What most people call Linux is really GNu/Hurd.
What? Hurd has not been heard (haha) from for over a decade. Linux is the kernel, and gnu/linux is the way debian folk identify one another. Distros take linux (debian folks: that's gnu/linux), bundle it with gnome||kde||xkcd and firefox||iceweasel||plasmapussy, then send it out the door with no acpi support and call it a day.
I think it is actually an ad for churros. I anticipate huge churro sales spike following this campaign.
Actually, I think it's an ad for ads.
The ESB and T3 ended exactly as this commercial ended: a set up for the next one. This is going to be a chain of commercials and obviously the first one is out of context and sucks.
Just wait for commercial 3.11^w 95^w 98^w 2000^w xp^w vista^w 7: it won't suck. It will be delicious.
Thanks. It's a bit over my head, but now at least I have a few terms to google. I Don't have access to a Windows machine so I'll learn to use httping or echoping on Linux (I don't even know what that means yet).
You missed it. It already happened 500 years ago but the activation caused some strange time dilation effects meaning that we're all stuck in 2008, and whenever you hear about the year of the Linux desktop you've already missed it.
Thank you so much Cliffe. On the phone they are saying that the type of packets that mtr and ping use are low priority and are dropped. They say that web packets are high priority and are not dropped. Does this make sense? What should I answer them with?
First of all, calm down on the FUDslinging. I cannot test IE8 because the developers decided that my platform of choice is not important to them. So what I do know, I know from/..
This bug was fixed in Beta 2.
Great, I'm glad to hear it. Promoting web standards is in everyone's best interests.
Even Beta 1 didn't sniff the URL. It was a cross-domain security issue that was a bit overzealous. No special-casing, just an oversight that wasn't caught because the canonical URL for the Acid2 test was on the same host as an absolute URL it referenced.
That's not what was reported here. If it's already been fixed, great.
No, even if you assume all the things you believe are true, your analogy would still be ridiculous. To modify your analogy to be appropriate, the car would have to travel very quickly under normal circumstances, and only slow down when there's a hazard, and you can drop that "where no one can see it" nonsense altogether. Once more - you can download it and try it for yourself if you don't believe any of this.
My "where no one can see it" nonsense was in respect to the behaviour of IE to perform differently on the the Acid URL then it did on the web. If that is no longer the case, then I applaud the IE development team, and I am glad for future users of that browser.
hardy2@hardy2-laptop:~$ traceroute www.google.com traceroute to www.google.com (209.85.135.104), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 192.168.123.254 (192.168.123.254) 0.396 ms 0.669 ms 0.771 ms
2 bzq-25-68-22.static.bezeqint.net (212.25.68.22) 14.013 ms 14.211 ms 15.446 ms
3 bzq-25-109-129.static.bezeqint.net (212.25.109.129) 68.230 ms 69.323 ms 70.739 ms
4 bzq-179-124-9.static.bezeqint.net (212.179.124.9) 17.229 ms 18.345 ms 19.616 ms
5 bzq-179-124-18.static.bezeqint.net (212.179.124.18) 71.981 ms * *
6 * de-cix20.net.google.com (80.81.193.108) 87.621 ms 147.513 ms
7 209.85.255.176 (209.85.255.176) 71.355 ms 71.666 ms 73.541 ms
8 72.14.233.106 (72.14.233.106) 76.716 ms 209.85.248.248 (209.85.248.248) 96.381 ms 72.14.233.106 (72.14.233.106) 81.311 ms
9 209.85.130.15 (209.85.130.15) 80.491 ms 72.14.239.51 (72.14.239.51) 113.375 ms 209.85.130.15 (209.85.130.15) 79.015 ms 10 * * * 11 * * mu-in-f104.google.com (209.85.135.104) 82.674 ms hardy2@hardy2-laptop:~$
My '72 Fiat can do 300 KPM and 0-100 in 3.6 seconds, but only on my private track where no one can see it.
That's a ridiculous analogy. Anybody can download Internet Explorer and run the test themselves. If you don't believe that it passes Acid2, download it yourself and try it out. You don't need to take Microsoft's word for it.
The test only works for Acid hosted on specific websites, not the WWW at large. When it works across the web instead of sniffing URL to change compliance, then my analogy will become ridiculous. I'm waiting.
Exactly. Chrome was made by programmers, and released that way. Now the lawyers will get their turn and warp google's catch-all conservative CYA EULA into something specific to this browser.
This is yet another sign of google's impending world domination. Won't be long before they own everything people use from software, to clothes, to spouses and children.
They could probably afford a better education for those children than the current world governments are doing. They probably have more of an interest in having an educated public as well.
Interesting. Well, they can spell them however they want. I've seen my name spelled Dotan, Dothan, and worse. Doesn't bother me a bit, and we mungle their names in Hebrew to no end as well. Uzi Nissan, however, is the month. I know this from speaking with him.
Nissan is a common spelling/pronunciation of Nitsan, an Israeli name.
The name Nissan is not the same name as Nitsan. Nitsan is a flower bud. Nissan is a month in the Hebrew calendar. Both are names.
I wrote to Uzi Nissan about a year ago when I bought my Ford Focus. I let him know that I didn't even look at the new Nissan models because of what the company is doing to him. Nissan is losing sales over their treatment of the little guy. Uzi Nissan was in the car business when Nissan was still called Datsun. It should be Uzi suing Nissan Motors over the use of the name, not the other way around.
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Tracemonkey was faster than Chrome. I think it's odd that Chrome was slower than at work considering my home machine has much better parts. Chalk it up to Vista 64bit or something, I dunno.
Which one is the Vista 64 bit machine? What OS is the other?
You know one thing I find annoying?
Users that find bugs and never tell you about them.
You know one thing I find annoying? Users that complain "there is no software available for [Linux|Mac]" and never write to software developers to let them know that they want their software to run on their platform of choice.
You want something, let the devs know. In the case of Firefox, or any other application with a public bugzilla or other users-to-devs communication medium, there is no excuse.
Ahh my eyes!! You totally lied, there are no parts of the sun that don't shine!
Achtung: Do not look into sun with remaining eye.
The ad was a complete success. Can you believe that, after reading about it on Google News, I actually sought out and watched the commercial? Can you believe that right this very moment you are reading some unimportant commentary by someone whose opinion doesn't matter whatsoever about a TV commercial?
Score one for Microsoft.
Yeah, but did you watch it on CHROME?!?
Got to get the whole interwebs buzzing about something else this week.
THe defacto naming convention, thats what. While technically you are right, common usage in this context has altered the meaning a bit. What most people call Linux is really GNu/Hurd.
What? Hurd has not been heard (haha) from for over a decade. Linux is the kernel, and gnu/linux is the way debian folk identify one another. Distros take linux (debian folks: that's gnu/linux), bundle it with gnome||kde||xkcd and firefox||iceweasel||plasmapussy, then send it out the door with no acpi support and call it a day.
Sheesh.
Don't look at that picture! It is worse than Goatse! Ze googles..........
I think it is actually an ad for churros. I anticipate huge churro sales spike following this campaign.
Actually, I think it's an ad for ads.
The ESB and T3 ended exactly as this commercial ended: a set up for the next one. This is going to be a chain of commercials and obviously the first one is out of context and sucks.
Just wait for commercial 3.11^w 95^w 98^w 2000^w xp^w vista^w 7: it won't suck. It will be delicious.
Thanks. It's a bit over my head, but now at least I have a few terms to google. I Don't have access to a Windows machine so I'll learn to use httping or echoping on Linux (I don't even know what that means yet).
You missed it. It already happened 500 years ago but the activation caused some strange time dilation effects meaning that we're all stuck in 2008, and whenever you hear about the year of the Linux desktop you've already missed it.
There, fixed that for you.
Thank you so much Cliffe. On the phone they are saying that the type of packets that mtr and ping use are low priority and are dropped. They say that web packets are high priority and are not dropped. Does this make sense? What should I answer them with?
I really appreciate the assistance.
First of all, calm down on the FUDslinging. I cannot test IE8 because the developers decided that my platform of choice is not important to them. So what I do know, I know from /..
This bug was fixed in Beta 2.
Great, I'm glad to hear it. Promoting web standards is in everyone's best interests.
Even Beta 1 didn't sniff the URL. It was a cross-domain security issue that was a bit overzealous. No special-casing, just an oversight that wasn't caught because the canonical URL for the Acid2 test was on the same host as an absolute URL it referenced.
That's not what was reported here. If it's already been fixed, great.
No, even if you assume all the things you believe are true, your analogy would still be ridiculous. To modify your analogy to be appropriate, the car would have to travel very quickly under normal circumstances, and only slow down when there's a hazard, and you can drop that "where no one can see it" nonsense altogether. Once more - you can download it and try it for yourself if you don't believe any of this.
My "where no one can see it" nonsense was in respect to the behaviour of IE to perform differently on the the Acid URL then it did on the web. If that is no longer the case, then I applaud the IE development team, and I am glad for future users of that browser.
Thanks, Mike, how does this look:
hardy2@hardy2-laptop:~$ traceroute www.google.com
traceroute to www.google.com (209.85.135.104), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 192.168.123.254 (192.168.123.254) 0.396 ms 0.669 ms 0.771 ms
2 bzq-25-68-22.static.bezeqint.net (212.25.68.22) 14.013 ms 14.211 ms 15.446 ms
3 bzq-25-109-129.static.bezeqint.net (212.25.109.129) 68.230 ms 69.323 ms 70.739 ms
4 bzq-179-124-9.static.bezeqint.net (212.179.124.9) 17.229 ms 18.345 ms 19.616 ms
5 bzq-179-124-18.static.bezeqint.net (212.179.124.18) 71.981 ms * *
6 * de-cix20.net.google.com (80.81.193.108) 87.621 ms 147.513 ms
7 209.85.255.176 (209.85.255.176) 71.355 ms 71.666 ms 73.541 ms
8 72.14.233.106 (72.14.233.106) 76.716 ms 209.85.248.248 (209.85.248.248) 96.381 ms 72.14.233.106 (72.14.233.106) 81.311 ms
9 209.85.130.15 (209.85.130.15) 80.491 ms 72.14.239.51 (72.14.239.51) 113.375 ms 209.85.130.15 (209.85.130.15) 79.015 ms
10 * * *
11 * * mu-in-f104.google.com (209.85.135.104) 82.674 ms
hardy2@hardy2-laptop:~$
This could be handy if you see a nice lady in a bar and want to become a stalker.
Or a nice, vulnerable-looking kid. I see this getting out of hand real quick.
Oh, won't someone please think of the chi... OH FUCK IT!
That's a ridiculous analogy. Anybody can download Internet Explorer and run the test themselves. If you don't believe that it passes Acid2, download it yourself and try it out. You don't need to take Microsoft's word for it.
The test only works for Acid hosted on specific websites, not the WWW at large. When it works across the web instead of sniffing URL to change compliance, then my analogy will become ridiculous. I'm waiting.
I'm waiting for Google Earth integration, where it matches your face with images on street view and finds you on planet earth.
Adblock does not, by default block Google text ads that appear alongside search results.
Adblock does not, by default block anything. It's the libraries that you add to ABP that block things, and the things you add yourself.
Hell, gmail is still in beta. If that's any indicator, the beta period for Chrome will be a couple of years...
And according to my mailing lists, gmail has over 15% of the email market.
...have have other popular programs (such as Google Analytics) been updated to identify this browser?
Extreme Tracking now recognizes Chrome. Interestingly, I am seeing over 2% of my traffic in Chrome too. Amazing.
I doubt this has anything to do with Chrome. It's taken straight out of their Google Accounts terms: https://www.google.com/accounts/TOS?hl=en
See point 11.1.
Exactly. Chrome was made by programmers, and released that way. Now the lawyers will get their turn and warp google's catch-all conservative CYA EULA into something specific to this browser.
This is yet another sign of google's impending world domination. Won't be long before they own everything people use from software, to clothes, to spouses and children.
They could probably afford a better education for those children than the current world governments are doing. They probably have more of an interest in having an educated public as well.
Interesting. Well, they can spell them however they want. I've seen my name spelled Dotan, Dothan, and worse. Doesn't bother me a bit, and we mungle their names in Hebrew to no end as well. Uzi Nissan, however, is the month. I know this from speaking with him.
especially if I included the note "Not affiliated with the J.W. Robinson Co." on the entrance door of my store
Make sure it looks like:
Not affiliated with the J.W. Robinson Co.
With the name of the company that you are not affiliated with in large type.
In the end, like most ask slashdot posts, the submitter should go to a lawyer and ask their opinion.
Isn't that what /. is: free collective law advice?
Nissan is a common spelling/pronunciation of Nitsan, an Israeli name.
The name Nissan is not the same name as Nitsan. Nitsan is a flower bud. Nissan is a month in the Hebrew calendar. Both are names.
I wrote to Uzi Nissan about a year ago when I bought my Ford Focus. I let him know that I didn't even look at the new Nissan models because of what the company is doing to him. Nissan is losing sales over their treatment of the little guy. Uzi Nissan was in the car business when Nissan was still called Datsun. It should be Uzi suing Nissan Motors over the use of the name, not the other way around.
Thanks. I thought that the term AIDS came about after the discovery of HIV.