Maybe the _whole reason_ it's cheaper to do so? Because it's basically akin to slave labor? Shit doesn't get made for pennies when you have a well paid and cared for workforce but it's easy to ignore the realities of really, REALLY, sub par working conditions when you get a toy to play with after you dropped some of your disposable income, isn't it?
Google has quite a few features I use a lot that noone else offers. Google Docs for things I like to keep location neutral while still having full create and edit abilities while not downloading anything. Google Voice to keep my phone number portable along with all its other features. Android running on my as well as millions of other smartphones. etc. Google doesn't innovate? Sounds like selective memory with a bias towards Apple to me. About par for a Slashdot submission as of late.
Interesting, thank you. I actually didn't mean to say it _was_ the linux system but the correlation of the two in TFA made me wonder just how poorly these things are setup in reality.
What _is_ surprising to me is that a linux based infotainment system would _ever_ hamper any system outside itself. Why would my audio system glitching cause my car to not start? Ok, if it somehow drains the battery, I get that, but otherwise it should be an offering on the "LAN" and simply not used if not accessible.
I mean, are these systems so horridly setup that one specific glitch in the DVD playback software can do _anything_ to the basic functions of the car (brakes, engine, etc)? Or was that just sensationalism in the article merely to illustrate how much software really is "under the hood"?
We're going to have to agree to disagree, but I liken the missing "feature" to a word processor that can't display capital letters. It works without them, but making it support them isn't exactly a "feature", it's an expected function. Missing it would most certainly be called a bug.
Proof of Concepts are usually built around one hardware model so they don't have to dick around spending tons of manhours making it work on a wide array of hardware/os'. I have an android, so understand that I say this with zero fanboyism, but Apple pretty much has a more or less single piece of hardware with very small variances in parts used. They could write the software to take advantage of the hardware and have a large number of devices be able to run it. Do that on an android phone and you basically have to pick _one_ phone to do it on. Again, I love Android but lets say they picked the XT720 (the one I have). Well, Cincinnati Bell is currently the only US carrier offering it. They would have a game that would run on a handful of phones. The iPhone just works for their PoC purpose.
Honestly, the fact that the engine is "getting old" is the reason they opened up the source. They aren't going to make any more money out off of it and students/hobbyists will love being able to tinker with it.
Actually, for all the good Google has done on Android, one of my biggest pet peeves is something so simple, yet they haven't fixed it yet.
Being able to move emails into folders through the mail app while using an exchange email server. This simple function basically neuters any real work email functionality. In their online tracker it is listed as a feature request and not a bug. Go figure.
Frankly, and this isn't a troll, a serious [CITATION NEEDED] needs to be fulfilled. You claim there is a list of innocents, provide it or stop posting about its existence.
Basically, put up, or shut up. This is complicated enough as it is. We don't need misinformation being thrown around.
I always see this "list of civilians" or "number of civilians" retort but never have seen such a list. Please provide a source that shows this list of outed assets or please stop spreading misinformation.
Nope, believe it or not, it has everything to do with the way my nerves interpret the texture. I have no pain, at all, otherwise with my finger/wrist. Simply playing with netbooks that use those bumpy touchpads showed me that I don't like the sensation. Again, I might be in a minority, even the only person alive that gets that sensation, but ya..
Maybe I'm in a minority, but I already feel an odd sensation of "pain" when I use that odd textured (array of bumps?) on some netbook touchpads. It's a weird radiating electrical buzz feeling up and into my wrist when I slide my finger across it. I know there is no pain and it's just an odd nerve interpretation, but it exists for me none-the-less. I'd hate to use something like that on a regular basis and it sounds like they are trying to replicate that exact feeling on touch devices. No thank you!
You know, I was starting to believe this as true just because its reported everywhere. But can anyone point me to _one_ civilian name, let alone a "comprehensive list". Google just gives me the run around. Every link says it's "reported to have a list" but there is no evidence that I can find. Sounds like it's BS made up to turn people against WikiLeaks. Then again, maybe someone can prove me wrong?
No shit? If you draw something with an object that leaves residue you can see what you had drawn. With my new xt720 I noticed this day one. Either cleaning the screen or simply "smudging the smudges" by just "scribbling" out the grease smear works great. Although, over time I can see the protector being physically altered in the same pattern as my swipe code. I guess then you just replace the protector.
But seriously, this is as obvious as saying that walking in sand or snow allows people to follow you. How insightful.
Just curious, but how can a non-US citizen be a traitor to the US? Beyond that, is WikiLeaks doing us a service or not? I'd argue it is. More good things come out when people know the truth versus just pretending everything is going to be ok without checking up. Of course, it does depend on the information, but then again, WikiLeaks doesn't dig it up, it's handed to them. One could argue that if person x wants to release data, they are going to do so, WikiLeaks or not. The difference here is that WikiLeaks has media exposure and can take data that would have been lost to noise and broadcast it loudly. Then again, I've always been the type of person who walks towards that noise in the dark. I could be scared of it and merely hope it goes away or I can confront it for what it is and deal with it. Sticking your head in the sand isn't going to make whatever is happening stop and yes, sometimes finding something out can be damaging on its own, but being informed about what's going on is always a good thing.
Versus having people come in and just mooch without pay or paying so little it costs you money? There are obviously pro's and con's on both sides, but if you think you can just go in and pay $2 and sit there for multiple hours surfing their internet, you need to wake up.
But I don't equate "customers only" to "fee". I understand that bathrooms in nice restaurants are for their customers only. I understand that those call in numbers on receipts for a "chance to win" isn't simply given out and you need to be a customer. Wifi should be the same way. You can use it proportional to how much of a customer you are. The problem with a fully open system is what they are seeing now. People who simply leech off their good will, take up space and create a less than enjoyable atmosphere.
"Not free" might be technically true. But totally free doesn't seem to be working as well as hoped and I understand, no, suggest that they lock it down a bit. Simply put, if you're going to Joe's Coffee Bazaar merely to use their internet and not purchase anything, you shouldn't be allowed to mooch their WiFi all you want. Purchase something and you're free to use their services.
Entirely agree. They should lock the wifi and your receipt comes with a code for a free 30/60 minute wifi key. They do this at the local Burger Kings in my area. Wifi is free, but you have to purchase food to get a limited amount of time to use it. The problem here is the trading/asking for receipts. I guess the local Burger King does this right too, they only print the code on the receipt if you _ask_ for it. It's sort of like asking for no pickles on your sandwich, there is no charge or deduction, just a note that you want no pickles.
Do you work for fox news? If not, I think you should apply. Your logic is right in their ballpark. If you do x then in some obscure way you must want y and therefore must support z!
First, you don't seem to understand what "disposable income" is. Second, stealing a physical tangible object of which can not be replaced without the original owner paying for another is _stealing_, not software piracy/copyright infringement. You're confusing the two.
Stealing a physical object from someone _is_ a loss to that person. Making an exact duplicate and giving it to someone who isn't willing to pay, is not a loss.
Your opinion is just as valid as mine. Until there is proof one way or the other it's all just mental masturbation. But don't assume that if everything had DRM that the warez scene would dry up. Games with DRM still flourish in the warez scene so that's almost a pointless argument entirely.
I'm not sure where you went with the second paragraph, so I'll just reply to the first part. I pay because I want to support the developers and the game. But make no mistake about it, I did and probably would continue to play the same games even if I had no money to spend on them (read that as you will). I'm fortunate enough, and thus so are the developers, that I have a job that affords me the ability to purchase the games I want to play. Again, not saying it would be "right" for me to do so, but it would happen.
Then you are forgetting another group, those of us who purchase games but will _not_ purchase games with stupid DRM schemes. I was excited for Spore and chose not to get it because I didn't want to support their DRM. Again, impossible to tell, but who comprises the bigger group? Those of us who won't purchase draconian DRM'd games or those that would purchase games (directly or indirectly) because it _has_ DRM? If those two groups are roughly the same size, what's the benefit to the DRM? Now calculating in the cost of implementing the DRM, what is the benefit? I don't have the answers, but I have and will continue to personally boycott games with overly intrusive DRM perceived, or real (hey, I'm human).
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Maybe the _whole reason_ it's cheaper to do so? Because it's basically akin to slave labor? Shit doesn't get made for pennies when you have a well paid and cared for workforce but it's easy to ignore the realities of really, REALLY, sub par working conditions when you get a toy to play with after you dropped some of your disposable income, isn't it?
Google has quite a few features I use a lot that noone else offers. Google Docs for things I like to keep location neutral while still having full create and edit abilities while not downloading anything. Google Voice to keep my phone number portable along with all its other features. Android running on my as well as millions of other smartphones. etc. Google doesn't innovate? Sounds like selective memory with a bias towards Apple to me. About par for a Slashdot submission as of late.
Interesting, thank you. I actually didn't mean to say it _was_ the linux system but the correlation of the two in TFA made me wonder just how poorly these things are setup in reality.
What _is_ surprising to me is that a linux based infotainment system would _ever_ hamper any system outside itself. Why would my audio system glitching cause my car to not start? Ok, if it somehow drains the battery, I get that, but otherwise it should be an offering on the "LAN" and simply not used if not accessible. I mean, are these systems so horridly setup that one specific glitch in the DVD playback software can do _anything_ to the basic functions of the car (brakes, engine, etc)? Or was that just sensationalism in the article merely to illustrate how much software really is "under the hood"?
We're going to have to agree to disagree, but I liken the missing "feature" to a word processor that can't display capital letters. It works without them, but making it support them isn't exactly a "feature", it's an expected function. Missing it would most certainly be called a bug.
Proof of Concepts are usually built around one hardware model so they don't have to dick around spending tons of manhours making it work on a wide array of hardware/os'. I have an android, so understand that I say this with zero fanboyism, but Apple pretty much has a more or less single piece of hardware with very small variances in parts used. They could write the software to take advantage of the hardware and have a large number of devices be able to run it. Do that on an android phone and you basically have to pick _one_ phone to do it on. Again, I love Android but lets say they picked the XT720 (the one I have). Well, Cincinnati Bell is currently the only US carrier offering it. They would have a game that would run on a handful of phones. The iPhone just works for their PoC purpose.
Honestly, the fact that the engine is "getting old" is the reason they opened up the source. They aren't going to make any more money out off of it and students/hobbyists will love being able to tinker with it.
Actually, for all the good Google has done on Android, one of my biggest pet peeves is something so simple, yet they haven't fixed it yet.
Being able to move emails into folders through the mail app while using an exchange email server. This simple function basically neuters any real work email functionality. In their online tracker it is listed as a feature request and not a bug. Go figure.
Frankly, and this isn't a troll, a serious [CITATION NEEDED] needs to be fulfilled. You claim there is a list of innocents, provide it or stop posting about its existence.
Basically, put up, or shut up. This is complicated enough as it is. We don't need misinformation being thrown around.
I always see this "list of civilians" or "number of civilians" retort but never have seen such a list. Please provide a source that shows this list of outed assets or please stop spreading misinformation.
Thanks to three twits this thursday, the t typing tripe triggered time terminating turmoil.
Nope, believe it or not, it has everything to do with the way my nerves interpret the texture. I have no pain, at all, otherwise with my finger/wrist. Simply playing with netbooks that use those bumpy touchpads showed me that I don't like the sensation. Again, I might be in a minority, even the only person alive that gets that sensation, but ya..
Maybe I'm in a minority, but I already feel an odd sensation of "pain" when I use that odd textured (array of bumps?) on some netbook touchpads. It's a weird radiating electrical buzz feeling up and into my wrist when I slide my finger across it. I know there is no pain and it's just an odd nerve interpretation, but it exists for me none-the-less. I'd hate to use something like that on a regular basis and it sounds like they are trying to replicate that exact feeling on touch devices. No thank you!
Just curious, but can you provide the source where you got that information? I'm curious to read it myself.
You know, I was starting to believe this as true just because its reported everywhere. But can anyone point me to _one_ civilian name, let alone a "comprehensive list". Google just gives me the run around. Every link says it's "reported to have a list" but there is no evidence that I can find. Sounds like it's BS made up to turn people against WikiLeaks. Then again, maybe someone can prove me wrong?
No shit? If you draw something with an object that leaves residue you can see what you had drawn. With my new xt720 I noticed this day one. Either cleaning the screen or simply "smudging the smudges" by just "scribbling" out the grease smear works great. Although, over time I can see the protector being physically altered in the same pattern as my swipe code. I guess then you just replace the protector.
But seriously, this is as obvious as saying that walking in sand or snow allows people to follow you. How insightful.
Just curious, but how can a non-US citizen be a traitor to the US? Beyond that, is WikiLeaks doing us a service or not? I'd argue it is. More good things come out when people know the truth versus just pretending everything is going to be ok without checking up. Of course, it does depend on the information, but then again, WikiLeaks doesn't dig it up, it's handed to them. One could argue that if person x wants to release data, they are going to do so, WikiLeaks or not. The difference here is that WikiLeaks has media exposure and can take data that would have been lost to noise and broadcast it loudly. Then again, I've always been the type of person who walks towards that noise in the dark. I could be scared of it and merely hope it goes away or I can confront it for what it is and deal with it. Sticking your head in the sand isn't going to make whatever is happening stop and yes, sometimes finding something out can be damaging on its own, but being informed about what's going on is always a good thing.
Versus having people come in and just mooch without pay or paying so little it costs you money? There are obviously pro's and con's on both sides, but if you think you can just go in and pay $2 and sit there for multiple hours surfing their internet, you need to wake up.
But I don't equate "customers only" to "fee". I understand that bathrooms in nice restaurants are for their customers only. I understand that those call in numbers on receipts for a "chance to win" isn't simply given out and you need to be a customer. Wifi should be the same way. You can use it proportional to how much of a customer you are. The problem with a fully open system is what they are seeing now. People who simply leech off their good will, take up space and create a less than enjoyable atmosphere.
"Not free" might be technically true. But totally free doesn't seem to be working as well as hoped and I understand, no, suggest that they lock it down a bit. Simply put, if you're going to Joe's Coffee Bazaar merely to use their internet and not purchase anything, you shouldn't be allowed to mooch their WiFi all you want. Purchase something and you're free to use their services.
Entirely agree. They should lock the wifi and your receipt comes with a code for a free 30/60 minute wifi key. They do this at the local Burger Kings in my area. Wifi is free, but you have to purchase food to get a limited amount of time to use it. The problem here is the trading/asking for receipts. I guess the local Burger King does this right too, they only print the code on the receipt if you _ask_ for it. It's sort of like asking for no pickles on your sandwich, there is no charge or deduction, just a note that you want no pickles.
And how many would have chosen not to buy it if it had DRM? Is that number > 0? Probably.
Do you work for fox news? If not, I think you should apply. Your logic is right in their ballpark. If you do x then in some obscure way you must want y and therefore must support z!
First, you don't seem to understand what "disposable income" is. Second, stealing a physical tangible object of which can not be replaced without the original owner paying for another is _stealing_, not software piracy/copyright infringement. You're confusing the two.
Stealing a physical object from someone _is_ a loss to that person. Making an exact duplicate and giving it to someone who isn't willing to pay, is not a loss.
Your opinion is just as valid as mine. Until there is proof one way or the other it's all just mental masturbation. But don't assume that if everything had DRM that the warez scene would dry up. Games with DRM still flourish in the warez scene so that's almost a pointless argument entirely.
I'm not sure where you went with the second paragraph, so I'll just reply to the first part. I pay because I want to support the developers and the game. But make no mistake about it, I did and probably would continue to play the same games even if I had no money to spend on them (read that as you will). I'm fortunate enough, and thus so are the developers, that I have a job that affords me the ability to purchase the games I want to play. Again, not saying it would be "right" for me to do so, but it would happen.
Then you are forgetting another group, those of us who purchase games but will _not_ purchase games with stupid DRM schemes. I was excited for Spore and chose not to get it because I didn't want to support their DRM. Again, impossible to tell, but who comprises the bigger group? Those of us who won't purchase draconian DRM'd games or those that would purchase games (directly or indirectly) because it _has_ DRM? If those two groups are roughly the same size, what's the benefit to the DRM? Now calculating in the cost of implementing the DRM, what is the benefit? I don't have the answers, but I have and will continue to personally boycott games with overly intrusive DRM perceived, or real (hey, I'm human).