I beg to differ. I've never had the opportunity of working for Sun (been detached to Oracle back in 2000) but I've switched from Linux to OpenSolaris about a year ago and I will miss it dearly.
There is definitely an OpenSolaris community and those who want to continue building on OpenSolaris legacy will contribute (or, more modestly use) IllumOs.
I've been a Linux advocate myself for over 10 years. The truth is, OpenSolaris is much more of a professional OS.
A very good point indeed! Somehow, the more things are supposed to change, the more they stay the same. We (in Europe) had big hopes that Obama would break those privacy intrusive agreements with the UE. That did not materialize, probably because the man is not advised by the right people.
Well I also enjoy reading the NYT from time to time. But I left the US 6 years ago and I'm not gonna sign up for a paid up subscription. The occasional curiosity about what's going on in Jersey does not justify a business case.
I guess I'll have to revert to more open options like the Star-Ledger. Is USA Today still free?
To me, it really seems like OpenSolaris has a huge future. IPS is more reliable as an upgrade system as anything else I've seen so far. Granted, coming from Slackware, it's not that relevant. Still, OpenSolaris is a really great system.
Well, I too, would wish that DEC would still be around but remember that "the business of America is business." You can have the best technology in the world (Alpha, clusters, VMS, non-stop Himalaya -- Compaq also bought Tandem at some point) but if you can't sell it because the competition coming from Intel/AMD/Microsoft makes you irrelevant, what good is it?
That being said DEC technology was not really killed. You still can get OpenVMS and Tru64 from HP at a reasonable price. I paid $100 for a Tru64 (Digital Unix, aka OSF1) hobbyist license and the product is not that bad, despite the fact that, for the same price, in 2001, you could get the "Solaris 8 Source Foundation Release" (an 8 CD set, quite complete, incuding the Workshop 5 compiler).
Tru64 has been quite a disappointment to me. The lack of man pages, for instance, is disturbing. Of course, the documentation is there in form of PDF or sometimes HTML files but I don't want to have to run Mozilla with only 128MB of RAM on a 333MHz Alpha with a lousy disk subsystem. Also HP management decided they could afford not to release the open source CDs (previously known as "Freeware for Digital Unix") any more, without even providing a pointer to downloadable ISO images and I hate that.
Does anybody know what happened to the Slackware Aplha project?
The UDI pointed to by the project udi.org link concerns the "Uniform Driver Interface," an attempt at specifying and implementing portable device drivers. It bears absolutely no relationship to a "Unified Display Interface."
is simply that there is today some (extremely peripheral) Linux code that is running in the UnixWare kernel as part of the LKP subsystem. LKP is an emulation layer that allows to run Linux binaries under UW.
That code is, again, very peripheral. It's mostly concerned with rearranging Linux system calls arguments to their UW equivalents and translating the results back to user land.
Nothing really central like scheduling, file system or VM code, of course!
was previously used by Novell as an intermediary name for UnixWare 2. Let's just hope the Microsoft's new offspring will compare in terms of reliability!
It would have if management had left the Gemini64 project run to completion. Alas, Doug Michels thought it was more politically astute to drop it and to work with IBM on project Monterey.
I know some of the guys involved in Gemini64 and I can't even begin to describe how shocked they were when the bad news came from Santa Cruz.
As a matter of fact, the encrypted section of the comment reveals that the old programming adage is still valid: "debug only the code, not the comments."
It also shows that the first snippet is bogus. Linux's malloc, apparently allocates kernel memory (that's what it does in my 2.0.39 kernel source tree). Now, SVR4.0's rmalloc deals with resource map management which a completely different thing.
As for the second snippet, it is STREAMS code and is most likely based on BSD's mbuf code.
SCO don't care about GCC support of their OS, [...]
They do a lot more than you think (I used to work for the company, was laid off 15 months ago). GCC support is almost a must when it comes to compiling all the GNU software.
Wanna install a recent version of Oracle under UnixWare? The only way to do that these days is to run the Linux binaries and you are going to need the GNU toolchain to re-compile/re-link those -- not to mention the Linux Java RTE for the graphical installer.
I beg to differ. I used to do Unix kernel development for a company that has become unbelievably unpopular these days, but I found that HTML for dummies was the quickstart style of books I needed to publish performance measurements to the team (perf and VM group). My point being you can think of yourself as being a hardcore geek and still have a use for a... for Dummies book.
Yup, and NEC is also still present in the embedded
application market. I once used a 7810 in an
application that was some sort of a IEEE-488 to
Centronics bridge. Those 8 bit microcontrollers
are just great for the job (integrated serial and
parallel IO, DAC, DCA,...), very easy to interface and to program. It seems that this processor still is around, under newer appellations.
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--geometry is only standard for X Toolkit based applications. Gnome applications have no support for this.
I beg to differ. I've never had the opportunity of working for Sun (been detached to Oracle back in 2000) but I've switched from Linux to OpenSolaris about a year ago and I will miss it dearly.
There is definitely an OpenSolaris community and those who want to continue building on OpenSolaris legacy will contribute (or, more modestly use) IllumOs.
I've been a Linux advocate myself for over 10 years. The truth is, OpenSolaris is much more of a professional OS.
A very good point indeed! Somehow, the more things are supposed to change, the more they stay the same. We (in Europe) had big hopes that Obama would break those privacy intrusive agreements with the UE. That did not materialize, probably because the man is not advised by the right people.
Well I also enjoy reading the NYT from time to time. But I left the US 6 years ago and I'm not gonna sign up for a paid up subscription. The occasional curiosity about what's going on in Jersey does not justify a business case.
I guess I'll have to revert to more open options like the Star-Ledger. Is USA Today still free?
To me, it really seems like OpenSolaris has a huge future.
IPS is more reliable as an upgrade system as anything else
I've seen so far. Granted, coming from Slackware, it's not
that relevant. Still, OpenSolaris is a really great system.
Well, I too, would wish that DEC would still be around but remember that "the business of America is business." You can have the best technology in the world (Alpha, clusters, VMS, non-stop Himalaya -- Compaq also bought Tandem at some point) but if you can't sell it because the competition coming from Intel/AMD/Microsoft makes you irrelevant, what good is it?
That being said DEC technology was not really killed. You still can get OpenVMS and Tru64 from HP at a reasonable price. I paid $100 for a Tru64 (Digital Unix, aka OSF1) hobbyist license and the product is not that bad, despite the fact that, for the same price, in 2001, you could get the "Solaris 8 Source Foundation Release" (an 8 CD set, quite complete, incuding the Workshop 5 compiler).
Tru64 has been quite a disappointment to me. The lack of man pages, for instance, is disturbing. Of course, the documentation is there in form of PDF or sometimes HTML files but I don't want to have to run Mozilla with only 128MB of RAM on a 333MHz Alpha with a lousy disk subsystem. Also HP management decided they could afford not to release the open source CDs (previously known as "Freeware for Digital Unix") any more, without even providing a pointer to downloadable ISO images and I hate that.
Does anybody know what happened to the Slackware Aplha project?
The UDI pointed to by the project udi.org link concerns the "Uniform Driver
Interface," an attempt at specifying and implementing portable device drivers.
It bears absolutely no relationship to a "Unified Display Interface."
So much for editors checking the facts...
is simply that there is today some (extremely
peripheral) Linux code that is running in the
UnixWare kernel as part of the LKP subsystem.
LKP is an emulation layer that allows to run
Linux binaries under UW.
That code is, again, very peripheral. It's
mostly concerned with rearranging Linux system
calls arguments to their UW equivalents and
translating the results back to user land.
Nothing really central like scheduling, file
system or VM code, of course!
was previously used by Novell as an intermediary
name for UnixWare 2. Let's just hope the Microsoft's
new offspring will compare in terms of reliability!
"Corporation: An ingenious device for obtaining profit without individual responsibility."
Solaris is based on System V release 4.0 (circa 1990).
This is a stupid comment. Just because the management displays no business ethics does not mean that you transfer their responsibility to employees.
Yeah, that happened to me to w/ Caldera NJ. It has to be because I have a German name too...
I know some of the guys involved in Gemini64 and I can't even begin to describe how shocked they were when the bad news came from Santa Cruz.
It also shows that the first snippet is bogus. Linux's malloc, apparently allocates kernel memory (that's what it does in my 2.0.39 kernel source tree). Now, SVR4.0's rmalloc deals with resource map management which a completely different thing.
As for the second snippet, it is STREAMS code and is most likely based on BSD's mbuf code.
If you expected real evidence, this is not it.
They do a lot more than you think (I used to work for the company, was laid off 15 months ago). GCC support is almost a must when it comes to compiling all the GNU software.
Wanna install a recent version of Oracle under UnixWare? The only way to do that these days is to run the Linux binaries and you are going to need the GNU toolchain to re-compile/re-link those -- not to mention the Linux Java RTE for the graphical installer.
ship with their OS (for $$$).. sort of like
Solaris and IRIX?
Yes, it does, unlike Solaris...
I beg to differ. I used to do Unix kernel development for a company that has become unbelievably unpopular these days, but I found that HTML for dummies was the quickstart style of books I needed to publish performance measurements to the team (perf and VM group). My point being you can think of yourself as being a hardcore geek and still have a use for a ... for Dummies book.
Indeed. Officially unsupported hardware that still
works with Solaris 9 x86 may be found here.
from the review:
As a matter of fact, so am I, since my girlfriend brought me back "Sex for Dummies" from the bookstore. That was tacful!
Is it safe now?
The law suite is with UnixWare 7 _not_ OpenServer.
I suggest GMT, just to make everyone feel comfortable.