You touched on a point here that I think most people miss. QT is 'free', in that I can write free software in it without charge. What if I want to write closed-source software (say, for a small company system or something)... Then I must pay..
Unless you are willing to learn 2 api's, use GTK (there are wrappers for all sorts of languages, including C++). GTK kills two birds with one stone.
Believe it or not, people still make demos for the good ol' c64. Not so many games these days, but with such a deep library who cares?
Try www.c64.com for games, or www.c64.org for other stuff.. Try finding some recent CREST demos, they really show off the hardware. Most people are amazed at the stuff that is possible on an 8-bit, 1 Mhz platorm.
Also, try going to #c-64 on ircnet. Yes, people still crap on about c-64s:)
I would argue that they *are* using it for anti-competitive means. Putting music piracy aside, Napster is in *direct* competition with the current method of selling music. It is a way to distribute music, as are CD's and tapes. The fact that people use Napster to pirate music is irrelevant..
Look at their profits, I dont think the mainstream music companies give too shits about Napster... People have always pirated music in one way or another. I believe this is just a smoke-screen to cover up the fact that they are shitting their pants that such a forum exists, because it means one day a lot of bands are gonna get sick of being screwed in the ass by these guys and are gonna do business online... The big bosses are scared of cheap, effective delivery mechanisms that put the bulk of the $$$s in the pockets of the artists.
First we had people complaining 'Slashdot is too Linux-centric, there's not enough *BSD/MS/Mac etc etc etc... Slashdot SUCKS!'
Now we have 'So what if the thing was MS-centric, we don't really care...this isnt news! Slashdot SUCKS!'... Geez people, if you can stop bashing/. for two seconds, go grab the Slashcode and do better.
Simon
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OK, in Australia we pay for local calls, but it is not timed. This puts us in a better position (unless the rate is really low) than countries with timed local calls.
Here it costs ~25c per local call. Take the example of one a day, thats 365x0.25c per year, or $91.25 per year, excluding ISP fees (if you have a timed ISP). If this company wants to send me a cheque for $91.25 every year, Ill run their shit software. This could even be grounds for a class-action lawsuit. These guys just dont geddit (tm).
This is the most stupid idea ever, and yet another reason to use open-source software.
As for getting marked down as flame-bait, it doesnt matter anyway. The karma system is so broken that I can never get my karma above 10 anyway. It seems whenever I get a submission accepted I get +3 karma, which disappears again about 2 days later... This has happened a couple of times to me... but anyway, OT.
I just dont think these morons realise that they *do not* have the right to run whatever they want on your machine. The stated functionality is what it should do, nothing more, no matter how 'benign' it seems.
OK, so HP have settled... But what about those of us who were backed into a corner, and had no option but to accept HP's "send us $X to upgrade and we'll send you a 6x2x2 rewriter'... Would I be able to get my $$$s back on this 'upgrade', since I had no other option to get a working drive? Or have I, as I suspect, already 'settled' with HP...
"The source code is still available from this site and will so remain. BladeEnc will continue to develop no matter what might turn out from this situation."
Guys, you can't have it both ways. The patent system is broken, yes. Is it enforcable? Sure. Responses like the one above mean 'if we are found to be infringing patents, we will go underground'. Ask yourself, how would you feel if someone violating the GPL said the same thing, because they felt the license was 'broken'???
The idea is to come up with our own open and free 'standards'.... This 'Ogg Vorbis' seems like a move in the right direction... If only someone would come up with a new idea to replace the current streaming/non-streaming video formats... and possibly some 'DVD-Like' hardware with open standards... This is the vision to work towards, dont waste time fighting the legal or patent system.
Commodore 64... start with BASIC, and then as their interest peaks, get an AR cart and Turbo Assembler and teach them some 8 bit assembler. Its the only way to learn how to write tight code, and you also learn about memory-mapped devices etc.
I know you don't believe me, but ask most of the top coders where they started....
Funny thing about HP. They always crap on about 'HP reliability' as if its a good thing. If you want a good example of a HP product that they'd rather sweep under the carpet and forget about, try finding a HP 4020i cd burner that works for longer than 3 months before having to be replaced.
Mac *developed* MacOS and the hardware *together*. Its a *single* package. No doubt they could supply Macs with another OS, however I don't think there'd be much call for it.
MS *don't* supply the hardware. Again, they *strongarm* other companies to supply their OS. Yes, you can get a machine with no Windows (I've done it, however I'm sure someone still paid the MS tax). However, there are *plenty* of companies who will *not* supply a machine without windows, and they just happen to be the bigger companies. Intel compat hardware is a commodity, and the fact that at *most* places you cannot avoid paying Microsoft is awful.
There are no Mac clone makers. That is Apple's choice, and I think they suffer for it. However, comparing the Apple/MacOS situation to Variety of Intel Compat Suppliers/MS Windows situation is just plain stupidity!
So, come clean, do you work for or are you affiliated in any way with Microsoft?
BTW, the dickhead remark was not meant as an insult, I'm sorry, think of it as Australian for 'I disagree!':)
The Mac situation is an entirely different kettle of fish. The point being, that Apple produces the hardware as well as the OS. The machines are built from the ground up to run MacOS. They are bundled together because that's what ur buying, the entire package. Microsoft does not produce the boxes that Windows runs on. They have to strongarm vendors into supplying the OS without question. Apple does no such thing. It doesnt have to. It makes the boxes.
Its like saying Commodore had a monopoly on the C=64 basic, because it came with the machine. The MacOS is a integral part of the machine, not some afterthought like Windows or Linux. Same for Commodore/Atari/Apple in the old days. You bought the entire package.
Human beings have always grasped 'theories' as 'facts'. Try to tell me that God and Creation was not 'fact' a few hundred years ago... It is human nature to pick our best 'theory' and present it as fact. It allows us to move forward, without worrying about details which would hold us up.
Creation/evolution is the same thing. Evolution is currently our best theory, and we hold it up as fact. The fact that the human race has recently aquired the need to 'investigate all options' is probably to our detriment. This is why religion still exists today. We cannot prove either 'theory', so we attempt to support both.
We would move forward as a race a whole lot faster if we did the 'wrong' thing, and didnt hold up several 'theories' at once, always second guessing ourselves and wondering which is the 'correct' theory. Obviously, in this situation (creation/evolution), it is highly unlikely we will ever prove/disprove either theory. Oh well, tough luck, choose one and move ahead.
Have you heard the saying 'any direction is better than no direction?'.. Well, it seems the human race has chosen 'evolution' as our 'fact'. Wrong or right, it is the path we should follow. Sitting around debating creation vs evolution won't get us anywhere....
Problem is, I find it hard to believe that anyone could 'mistakenly' include GPL'ed source into a close sourced project.
Im sure there are plenty of close sourced projects that include GPLed code.. difference with Nvidia is, they got caught.
Also, remember, *my* and *your* rights are being infringed, not just the guy that wrote the code... we have a right to the code now, and we should make Nvidia cough up....
The fact is, not only have the original author's rights to this code been infringed... anyone who has downloaded the binary now has a *legal and binding* right to the source code for this driver... The driver is now a *derivative work*, and we now (we being people who have downloaded the binary) have a right to the source... like it or not, they have backed themselves into a corner and must now pay the price.
I will send $$$s to anyone willing to challenge this in court... not because I own one of their cards but a) they have infringed the GPL, and their response is less than satisfactory and b) open source drivers are always good, and now we have a right to the source for their driver, we should seize it...
Ask yourself, if you were to rip a section of their code (by reverse engineering or whatever), would they be so understanding??? Even if they removed the driver immediately (which they are not) the work they have supplied is a derivative of GPL code, and thus they *have* to supply the source to anyone they supplied the binary to.
How hard would it be to grab one of these bad-boys, add a couple of DACs, and then connect it to a zip drive (via rs232?)... PLaying Mp3s in a portable manner using Zip disks is my life long ambition:)
People mostly have said to increase the price to cover the loss of subscription, so hackers can get hold of one for around $300...
Why not supply a kit as well? save manufacturing costs (well, putting the thing together) and ship a box with all the necessary parts to *make* an i-opener... people can then add their own bits, swap stuff out etc...
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Im stuck in WA too... but it isnt all bad.
Did you miss the recent news that Telstra's hand has been forced? They now have to give Optus and the other smaller telcos access to the local loop (exchange your house) and *must* provide wholesale and retail ADSL by September (from memory).. Optus will be offering ADSL around the same time, and probably some of the other telcos will jump on board.
What this means is ADSL is not far away, and there will be some competition which will (hopefully) drive prices down.
Only problem with ADSL is that you have to live close to the exchange (no problem for me, I live about 500m from the Craigie exchange as the crow flies) and according to my mate who works for NDC, the boxes at the exchange end are rather large, something like 10 connections per rack... So he wonders where Telstra is gonna find all this extra room needed for the equipment.
Im particularly interested in the 'raw devices' that 2.4 adds. Im currently locked in an arguement with our Oracle DBA, who believes that its the best thing since sliced bread.
Im wondering, since Oracle accesses these raw devices directly (implementing its own minimal 'filesystem' (although my friend here still maintains it is not a filesystem)), would it not be more efficient to write a minimal OracleFS driver for Linux, and have Linux service the Oracle calls? I can see arguments for both sides, where Oracle avoids Kernel overhead by accessing the device directly (although the kernel must allow this to happen, and hopefully would have some for of check in place), and on the other hand having the FS driver running in kernel space would have to be more efficient that Oracle's user space 'Filesystem' driver, but this adds another level of complexity.
Has anyone looked into this? Theoretically, which would be the most efficient approach? I know that this 'Oracle Filesystem' driver doesnt exist, but would it be theoretically possible to implement?
Try talking to the guy My email conversation with him so far, read from the bottom up:) If you would become wise in the principle of the Time, Life or Truth Cube, there may be nothing in the universe that you cannot understand. Like the Solar system, the Earth sphere and even your human body , there is a top and bottom parameter, a front and back and 2 sides - Cube values. Add a timer ( tick-tock heart) to your Cube body and you exist as a Time Cube traveler. No god has ever ascended to my wisdom plateau. Gene Ray "Scott, Simon" wrote: > So how, pray tell, does your theory of 4 corners relate to modern day > living? How does it relate at all? What insights does it give us that are in > anyway beneficial? I couldnt really follow the site, the oversized font and > terrible grammar made it heavy going.. > > You're starting to scare me, Im starting to think you are serious!:) > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gene Ray [mailto:oray612959@earthlink.net] > Sent: Friday, 31 March 2000 12:37 > To: Scott, Simon > Subject: Re: timecube.com > > A lot of other stupid and evil people have said that same thing - > that they are stupid and blissful. > > Gene Ray > > "Scott, Simon" wrote: > > > This is the funniest site Ive read in ages. > > > > Thanks for the laugh > > > > > > -- > [InternetShortcut] > URL=http://www.earthlink.net/ -- [InternetShortcut] URL=http://www.earthlink.net/
Ironically, these are the 6 companies formed after MicroSoft was split up in a similar trial back in 2000. In response, the DOJ said 'Ummmm, ooops, maybe forcing open protocols was a better idea... sorry'
Bill Gates, speaking from his 2 trillion dollar nursing home, said "bwhahahaha!!!! The world is mine!!! The world is mine!!!!"
Analysts expect the Micro* share prices to plummet 2 points, before regaining 600, within the next hour or so.
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Where it is heading is very exciting.
Check it out
Simon
You touched on a point here that I think most people miss. QT is 'free', in that I can write free software in it without charge. What if I want to write closed-source software (say, for a small company system or something)... Then I must pay..
Unless you are willing to learn 2 api's, use GTK (there are wrappers for all sorts of languages, including C++). GTK kills two birds with one stone.
Simon
For those who care...
:)
Believe it or not, people still make demos for the good ol' c64. Not so many games these days, but with such a deep library who cares?
Try www.c64.com for games, or www.c64.org for other stuff.. Try finding some recent CREST demos, they really show off the hardware. Most people are amazed at the stuff that is possible on an 8-bit, 1 Mhz platorm.
Also, try going to #c-64 on ircnet. Yes, people still crap on about c-64s
Simon
I would argue that they *are* using it for anti-competitive means. Putting music piracy aside, Napster is in *direct* competition with the current method of selling music. It is a way to distribute music, as are CD's and tapes. The fact that people use Napster to pirate music is irrelevant..
Look at their profits, I dont think the mainstream music companies give too shits about Napster... People have always pirated music in one way or another. I believe this is just a smoke-screen to cover up the fact that they are shitting their pants that such a forum exists, because it means one day a lot of bands are gonna get sick of being screwed in the ass by these guys and are gonna do business online... The big bosses are scared of cheap, effective delivery mechanisms that put the bulk of the $$$s in the pockets of the artists.
Simon
Coming from a non-X programming background, how hard would it be to implement the QT api as a C++ wrapper to GTK???
That would solve all the problems... KDE with GTK..mmmmm
Simon
Its Network Solutions... I mean, it's pretty indefensible, check out the email I found below to see how low their security is:
FROM: admin@nike.com
TO: admin@networksolutions.net
SUBJECT: nike.com registration
BODY:
D00dz!!!! GiMmE N1k3.K0M yA B4574rD5!!!
3y3 0Wn u!!!!!!!!!
Simon
First we had people complaining 'Slashdot is too Linux-centric, there's not enough *BSD/MS/Mac etc etc etc... Slashdot SUCKS!'
/. for two seconds, go grab the Slashcode and do better.
Now we have 'So what if the thing was MS-centric, we don't really care...this isnt news! Slashdot SUCKS!'... Geez people, if you can stop bashing
Simon
OK, in Australia we pay for local calls, but it is not timed. This puts us in a better position (unless the rate is really low) than countries with timed local calls.
Here it costs ~25c per local call. Take the example of one a day, thats 365x0.25c per year, or $91.25 per year, excluding ISP fees (if you have a timed ISP). If this company wants to send me a cheque for $91.25 every year, Ill run their shit software. This could even be grounds for a class-action lawsuit. These guys just dont geddit (tm).
This is the most stupid idea ever, and yet another reason to use open-source software.
As for getting marked down as flame-bait, it doesnt matter anyway. The karma system is so broken that I can never get my karma above 10 anyway. It seems whenever I get a submission accepted I get +3 karma, which disappears again about 2 days later... This has happened a couple of times to me... but anyway, OT.
I just dont think these morons realise that they *do not* have the right to run whatever they want on your machine. The stated functionality is what it should do, nothing more, no matter how 'benign' it seems.
Just my $91.25
Simon
Simon
OK, so HP have settled... But what about those of us who were backed into a corner, and had no option but to accept HP's "send us $X to upgrade and we'll send you a 6x2x2 rewriter'... Would I be able to get my $$$s back on this 'upgrade', since I had no other option to get a working drive? Or have I, as I suspect, already 'settled' with HP...
"The source code is still available from this site and will so remain. BladeEnc will continue to develop no matter what might turn out from this situation."
Guys, you can't have it both ways. The patent system is broken, yes. Is it enforcable? Sure. Responses like the one above mean 'if we are found to be infringing patents, we will go underground'. Ask yourself, how would you feel if someone violating the GPL said the same thing, because they felt the license was 'broken'???
The idea is to come up with our own open and free 'standards'.... This 'Ogg Vorbis' seems like a move in the right direction... If only someone would come up with a new idea to replace the current streaming/non-streaming video formats... and possibly some 'DVD-Like' hardware with open standards... This is the vision to work towards, dont waste time fighting the legal or patent system.
Thats a great troll man.... well done! :)
Commodore 64... start with BASIC, and then as their interest peaks, get an AR cart and Turbo Assembler and teach them some 8 bit assembler. Its the only way to learn how to write tight code, and you also learn about memory-mapped devices etc.
I know you don't believe me, but ask most of the top coders where they started....
Funny thing about HP. They always crap on about 'HP reliability' as if its a good thing. If you want a good example of a HP product that they'd rather sweep under the carpet and forget about, try finding a HP 4020i cd burner that works for longer than 3 months before having to be replaced.
HP quality my ass...
Again, there is a difference...
:)
Mac *developed* MacOS and the hardware *together*. Its a *single* package. No doubt they could supply Macs with another OS, however I don't think there'd be much call for it.
MS *don't* supply the hardware. Again, they *strongarm* other companies to supply their OS. Yes, you can get a machine with no Windows (I've done it, however I'm sure someone still paid the MS tax). However, there are *plenty* of companies who will *not* supply a machine without windows, and they just happen to be the bigger companies. Intel compat hardware is a commodity, and the fact that at *most* places you cannot avoid paying Microsoft is awful.
There are no Mac clone makers. That is Apple's choice, and I think they suffer for it. However, comparing the Apple/MacOS situation to Variety of Intel Compat Suppliers/MS Windows situation is just plain stupidity!
So, come clean, do you work for or are you affiliated in any way with Microsoft?
BTW, the dickhead remark was not meant as an insult, I'm sorry, think of it as Australian for 'I disagree!'
You're a dickhead!
The Mac situation is an entirely different kettle of fish. The point being, that Apple produces the hardware as well as the OS. The machines are built from the ground up to run MacOS. They are bundled together because that's what ur buying, the entire package. Microsoft does not produce the boxes that Windows runs on. They have to strongarm vendors into supplying the OS without question. Apple does no such thing. It doesnt have to. It makes the boxes.
Its like saying Commodore had a monopoly on the C=64 basic, because it came with the machine. The MacOS is a integral part of the machine, not some afterthought like Windows or Linux. Same for Commodore/Atari/Apple in the old days. You bought the entire package.
Get real.....
Simply put:
Human beings have always grasped 'theories' as 'facts'. Try to tell me that God and Creation was not 'fact' a few hundred years ago... It is human nature to pick our best 'theory' and present it as fact. It allows us to move forward, without worrying about details which would hold us up.
Creation/evolution is the same thing. Evolution is currently our best theory, and we hold it up as fact. The fact that the human race has recently aquired the need to 'investigate all options' is probably to our detriment. This is why religion still exists today. We cannot prove either 'theory', so we attempt to support both.
We would move forward as a race a whole lot faster if we did the 'wrong' thing, and didnt hold up several 'theories' at once, always second guessing ourselves and wondering which is the 'correct' theory. Obviously, in this situation (creation/evolution), it is highly unlikely we will ever prove/disprove either theory. Oh well, tough luck, choose one and move ahead.
Have you heard the saying 'any direction is better than no direction?'.. Well, it seems the human race has chosen 'evolution' as our 'fact'. Wrong or right, it is the path we should follow. Sitting around debating creation vs evolution won't get us anywhere....
Problem is, I find it hard to believe that anyone could 'mistakenly' include GPL'ed source into a close sourced project.
Im sure there are plenty of close sourced projects that include GPLed code.. difference with Nvidia is, they got caught.
Also, remember, *my* and *your* rights are being infringed, not just the guy that wrote the code... we have a right to the code now, and we should make Nvidia cough up....
The fact is, not only have the original author's rights to this code been infringed... anyone who has downloaded the binary now has a *legal and binding* right to the source code for this driver... The driver is now a *derivative work*, and we now (we being people who have downloaded the binary) have a right to the source... like it or not, they have backed themselves into a corner and must now pay the price.
I will send $$$s to anyone willing to challenge this in court... not because I own one of their cards but a) they have infringed the GPL, and their response is less than satisfactory and b) open source drivers are always good, and now we have a right to the source for their driver, we should seize it...
Ask yourself, if you were to rip a section of their code (by reverse engineering or whatever), would they be so understanding??? Even if they removed the driver immediately (which they are not) the work they have supplied is a derivative of GPL code, and thus they *have* to supply the source to anyone they supplied the binary to.
How hard would it be to grab one of these bad-boys, add a couple of DACs, and then connect it to a zip drive (via rs232?)... PLaying Mp3s in a portable manner using Zip disks is my life long ambition :)
People mostly have said to increase the price to cover the loss of subscription, so hackers can get hold of one for around $300...
:)
Why not supply a kit as well? save manufacturing costs (well, putting the thing together) and ship a box with all the necessary parts to *make* an i-opener... people can then add their own bits, swap stuff out etc...
Oh, and add an escape key
God is everywhere :)
Score: -6 TROLL
Im stuck in WA too... but it isnt all bad.
Did you miss the recent news that Telstra's hand has been forced? They now have to give Optus and the other smaller telcos access to the local loop (exchange your house) and *must* provide wholesale and retail ADSL by September (from memory).. Optus will be offering ADSL around the same time, and probably some of the other telcos will jump on board.
What this means is ADSL is not far away, and there will be some competition which will (hopefully) drive prices down.
Only problem with ADSL is that you have to live close to the exchange (no problem for me, I live about 500m from the Craigie exchange as the crow flies) and according to my mate who works for NDC, the boxes at the exchange end are rather large, something like 10 connections per rack... So he wonders where Telstra is gonna find all this extra room needed for the equipment.
Anyways, take heart that it is coming!
Hiya
Im particularly interested in the 'raw devices' that 2.4 adds. Im currently locked in an arguement with our Oracle DBA, who believes that its the best thing since sliced bread.
Im wondering, since Oracle accesses these raw devices directly (implementing its own minimal 'filesystem' (although my friend here still maintains it is not a filesystem)), would it not be more efficient to write a minimal OracleFS driver for Linux, and have Linux service the Oracle calls? I can see arguments for both sides, where Oracle avoids Kernel overhead by accessing the device directly (although the kernel must allow this to happen, and hopefully would have some for of check in place), and on the other hand having the FS driver running in kernel space would have to be more efficient that Oracle's user space 'Filesystem' driver, but this adds another level of complexity.
Has anyone looked into this? Theoretically, which would be the most efficient approach? I know that this 'Oracle Filesystem' driver doesnt exist, but would it be theoretically possible to implement?
Views/ideas anyone? Please respond.
Try talking to the guy My email conversation with him so far, read from the bottom up :) If you would become wise in the principle of the Time, Life or Truth Cube, there may be nothing in the universe that you cannot understand. Like the Solar system, the Earth sphere and even your human body , there is a top and bottom parameter, a front and back and 2 sides - Cube values. Add a timer ( tick-tock heart) to your Cube body and you exist as a Time Cube traveler. No god has ever ascended to my wisdom plateau. Gene Ray "Scott, Simon" wrote: > So how, pray tell, does your theory of 4 corners relate to modern day > living? How does it relate at all? What insights does it give us that are in > anyway beneficial? I couldnt really follow the site, the oversized font and > terrible grammar made it heavy going.. > > You're starting to scare me, Im starting to think you are serious! :) > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gene Ray [mailto:oray612959@earthlink.net] > Sent: Friday, 31 March 2000 12:37 > To: Scott, Simon > Subject: Re: timecube.com > > A lot of other stupid and evil people have said that same thing - > that they are stupid and blissful. > > Gene Ray > > "Scott, Simon" wrote: > > > This is the funniest site Ive read in ages. > > > > Thanks for the laugh > > > > > > -- > [InternetShortcut] > URL=http://www.earthlink.net/ -- [InternetShortcut] URL=http://www.earthlink.net/
Posted by timothy on Wednesday March 29 2025, @10:54PM
from the one-hundred-triiiillion-dollars dept.
bahwi writes: "The 7 companies involved in the DOJ anti-trust trial have until April 6 to finalise a deal with the DOJ. The companies involved are:
* MicroWindows
* MicroOffice
* MicroLinux
* MicroEmbedded
* MicroNetworking
* MicroMiscellaneous
Ironically, these are the 6 companies formed after MicroSoft was split up in a similar trial back in 2000. In response, the DOJ said 'Ummmm, ooops, maybe forcing open protocols was a better idea... sorry'
Bill Gates, speaking from his 2 trillion dollar nursing home, said "bwhahahaha!!!! The world is mine!!! The world is mine!!!!"
Analysts expect the Micro* share prices to plummet 2 points, before regaining 600, within the next hour or so.