Well, for something that's supposed to be so gosh-darned "Intuitive", why wasn't it designed right the first time?
If I close a program, it goes away. Why would it still be there?
If I drag a file to the trash, it's gone, waiting to be deleted perhaps. If I drag a disk to the trash, it isn't deleted at all! In fact, it spits at me!
...and god forbid if you try to eject something and the Mac wants it back later.
(How do you confuse a Mac? Take its CD out and put a different one in... (infinite loop, always asking for the *other* CD...)) --- pb Reply or e-mail; don't vaguely moderate.
Chill out, Wah. Okay, so you were rejected again. This still isn't the place to get your message out.
Well, we all know slashdot sucks, so get it posted on kuro5hin or something. Actually, its a good article, so if you don't, I will. But I'd rather you did, since you have that nifty "Retort".:) --- pb Reply or e-mail; don't vaguely moderate.
However, abandoning common sense and continuing on with an alternate interpretation of the can of worms you insisted on creating where there was none before...
Using multiple inheritance and polymorphism correctly is bad enough in C++, and hyphenated names are kludgey in English, and I don't think the populace is ready for the gender-bending implications if the kid were Bruce-Valerie-2.0, possibly with both genders and other conflicts.
Basically, typecasting is incompatible with political-correctness, which just goes to show that programming languages are direct, to-the-point, and don't care about those wussy Humanities issues of fairness, children with more than one parent, or the English language. --- pb Reply or e-mail; don't vaguely moderate.
I agree, whatever his problem is, he's certainly deluded if he thinks that DOS pushed the industry FORWARD. Maybe he's just dyslexic... --- pb Reply or e-mail; don't vaguely moderate.
I know it's true to life, guys. Satire is sometimes scarily accurate. But it's still just humor...
(and Pi Squared is pretty close to g, actually...:)
So I guess my point is, who cares what g really is if no one uses it? Especially if it took them this long to find out they were wrong, they really weren't paying attention...
In other news, Physicists admit to generally rounding their constants to 3, 2, or even 1 significant digit.
"I always used Pi Squared for g, the math seemed to come out right", said local physicist Fred Flintstone.
However, his assistant Barney Rubble disagreed, saying "Gee, Fred, I thought Pi was somewhere between 2 and 5. That doesn't sound very precise to me!"
Apparently the tried-and-true method of waiting for an apple to fall from a tree and counting "One Mississippi, Two Mississippi..." doesn't offer significant resolution to reliably yield a better approximation for g, either. Scientists are now experimenting with coconuts, and early results look optimistic. --- pb Reply or e-mail; don't vaguely moderate.
He's made it clear that he's part of a separate movement. If you read that article and thought he was part of an "Open Source" movement, then you don't know how to read.
Also, gcc seems to compile code rather well, and I hear emacs can even be used to edit text!
So... just because someone doesn't fit in with your idea of a developer, they don't need to be deposed by some mainstream linux mafia. And RMS has one helluva track record for his quality of results.
The reason Linux is GPL'ed is out of respect for gcc. Think about that.
(For example:
I hate the GNU/Linux fiasco as much as the next guy, (in part just because RMS is being an asshole here, Linus has acknowledged the FSF's contribution from the very beginning) but I still don't hold it against Stallman, especially if Linus doesn't. (don't be an involved third party when the first two parties don't care == none of your business)) --- pb Reply or e-mail; don't vaguely moderate.
Too many people and not enough food make for some unhappy people.
Or, if you like, starving people don't do a very good job of producing goods or performing services, and might end up stunted for life, besides.
"Overpopulation" means having more people than an area can support, like overgrazing. Overpopulation is a problem in precisely these times. Optimally using the Earth's resources, maybe we could have more people on Earth and keep them all happy. But as long as there are places where we can't, overpopulation is a problem.
Also, from my time on slashdot, "the more people [...] the better" isn't true at all. Society breaks down whenever it gets too crowded. This is true of rats, people, governments, and online forums. --- pb Reply or e-mail; don't vaguely moderate.
I find it funny when Stallman says something like "I'd rather not talk about it until I've talked to a lawyer"....
There's nothing wrong with being careful, we get enough phony legal advice on Slashdot. But what would it hurt? Looks like Stallman needs an Open Legal Community, so he can freely exchange ideas and get answers. "Many lawyers make all lawsuits trivial", or that sort of thing. --- pb Reply or e-mail; don't vaguely moderate.
once more people realize just how evil the RIAA is, and see mp3 as a viable alternative, maybe their sales will go down, and they will be forced to compete, or offer a more fair, legal alternative.
I hope. In any case, I haven't bought CDs in a while. I've gotten a couple as presents, and I got The Matrix on a gift certificate. I was thinking of joining one of those music clubs ("11 Free CDs For $1" or whatnot), but they don't have much in the way of 11 decent CDs.:)
So what are you going to do, RIAA? Sell CDs at cost + royalties? Heck, give the artist a buck or two, I'll pay for that.
What does the current model look like?
cost + royalties + 3 cents for the artist + legal bills + media kickbacks + mafia kickbacks + money lost from drug seizures + legal bills from fighting the war on mp3's
I mean, really, *explain* where that $15-20 goes and I'll be impressed. That's a lot of money to account for. A book costs $5, and that's paper, wood pulp. The author gets money, the publisher gets money, the cover artist gets money, the book gets printed on a press that is already paid for. So where's the extra $10-15 that goes into the cost of the CD? Hmmm?
Or how about singles? They make money off of those, right? And they're about half the price of the CD. With nothing to make them cheaper. Implying that CDs could be half their current cost and *still* be very profitable. --- pb Reply or e-mail; don't vaguely moderate.
Unfortunately, many others seem to agree with you, and they're serious.
I don't think a video card company is going to find some great, hidden knowledge in "bttv.c". I'm sure their programmers could produce something very similar in no time at all.
Given the choice between copying a little code illegally but alienating the community, or writing that same bit of code themselves, like usual, I think I know what they would have picked.
So why did NVIDIA do it? Because it was a mistake. Read the article again, read how the parties involved are taking it, (rather well, it seems) and cool off, guys.
Every time a new company comes along trying to use Linux in their business model, (Caldera, Corel, SGI, NVIDIA, etc...) I get anxious about it. I think to myself, "This time, we're going to have a GPL court case, there's no way this big nasty company will ever understand or respect what the community does"...
And so far I've been wrong. In this case, I like having these big companies prove me wrong and show that they really do get it, they're part of this movement too. And what do we get out of it? Better network integration tools, friendlier distributions, perhaps another journaling filesystem, fault tolerance, better multiprocessor support... and now 3D graphics drivers. Sounds good to me.
Give them time. Either they'll come around, or I'll be buying a Voodoo card soon.:) --- pb Reply or e-mail; don't vaguely moderate.
He's planning out a series for this trilogy, from the perspectives of Ender's friends in battle school. This one's from Petra's perspective, I think, and the last one was from Bean's p.o.v.
Ender's Shadow was pretty good, it was weird having a lot of the dialogue from Ender's Game but with completely different stuff going on, but interesting as well. Of course, I'm a fan, so expect some bias...:)
I just did a paper about (among other things) Orson Scott Card, so here's some stuff on the site: the partial movie script for Ender's Game, (they had better not call them "Wooly Ants"! Why not Buggers, would the British be offended?), the complete bibliography, and his essays (in the library).
The essay about Fantasy and the reader is cool, since at one point he talks about how people overinterpret books and then act like their interpretation is the "correct" one. (that's what my paper was about...) --- pb Reply or e-mail; don't vaguely moderate.
Second, I've been here for a while, and it works like this. Moderators have a limited amount of time to look through a lot of posts for important stuff. Tagging a post with "Moderate this up!" increases the chance that they will look at it, and evaluate it to see if it looks important.
Therefore, writing something that looks important and saying "Moderate this up!" is a good way to get initially modded up. However, if you didn't deserve this moderation, you'll get flamed, sometimes quite legitimately, followed by "Insightful? WTF?!?!!", and get moderated down to oblivion.
Therefore, this tactic should only work correctly if you actually have something to say, which is the point of moderation in the first place.
I thought I had something important to say about what I saw as a rather large GPL violation. But upon rereading their page carefully, I realized that I was completely wrong. And maybe you could have figured that out from my reply to Foogle (if that was up at the time you posted), I essentially said "Never mind, my fault, etc., etc.".
Sure, their website is confusing, and they got other details wrong, but fundamentally I didn't realize what people were getting upset about, didn't see the source RPMs, and thought the situation was worse than it actually was.
Feel free to keep moderating, just mod the good posts up, and ignore these three!;) --- pb Reply or e-mail; don't vaguely moderate.
Don't mind me, I didn't realize this was just one package, I thought he meant the whole distribution (all of PSXDEV).
(The wording didn't seem clear to me, just like where they say "GNU General Public License Version 2", and link to the LGPL...)
What confused me was, I still saw all the binary RPMs for the different packages, which would mean that he *is* still distributing it. Now I see the source RPMs, and realize they were just talking about one program.:) --- pb Reply or e-mail; don't vaguely moderate.
PSXDEV is a free GPL'd development environment for the PlayStation (PSX).
Releases 6 and 7 (and probably earlier ones) were under the GPL. Therefore, he has to provide source for these versions, which he is not doing. Also, he must stop using any other GPL'ed code if he wishes to release binary RPM's to the public, and considering the nature of the product, this might be difficult. (We're talking about gcc, binutils... free software, guys!)
Someone please send him a nice e-mail explaining what he can and can't do with GPL'ed software. There's nothing wrong with changing your own license for a new version of a program that's all your code, but that isn't what's going on here. --- pb Reply or e-mail; don't vaguely moderate.
Maybe the various playstation projects for Linux will show some more progress? Or maybe people will show some more interest in them?
Do any of the PSX emulators reimplement the BIOS functions with C routines? I heard that was what UltraHLE did. Besides, then non-PSX owners could use it without having to (legally) get a PSX BIOS.
However, I'd be very happy if a game company released a cross-platform emulator sometime before the system itself is dead. I don't want a Playstation, but I'd love to be able to play the later Final Fantasy games under Linux, for instance.
That means that either Square has to port them, x86/DOS/Windows emulators under Linux have to get a lot better (Wine doesn't run FF7; does Wine run "Bleem!"? Does VMWare use 3D-cards, or could the X Server help on that?), or PSX emulators will have to get a lot better. I'd happily buy Tactics, but I'd be playing it on my computer! (I don't have a TV, just a TV Card, getting a PSX just seems silly.:) --- pb Reply or e-mail; don't vaguely moderate.
Because I couldn't read that *tiny* font, and the centered lines were annoying me. Also, the HTML file is *HUGE*, thanks to StarOffice. The text version is about 3.5 times smaller!
Maybe next time I'll try converting one of the other versions, or use a browser that better supports tables, but for now at least I can read the darn thing! --- pb Reply or e-mail; don't vaguely moderate.
Yeah, and it's the first chip I ever heard to have more L1 cache than L2 cache! (that's definitely a feature for the "value" market...)
Not duplicating the data is interesting, what do they do, though? If data not found in L1, send data that will be overwritten to L2 cache, and read new data from L1 cache? If data not found in L2 cache, get data from memory, and write to L1 cache? Age stuff in L2 cache? I don't think it'd be too different, but it's weird...:) --- pb Reply or e-mail; don't vaguely moderate.
Slashdot Mirror
Nope, it's "bad". In fact, it's evil. Why?
Well, for something that's supposed to be so gosh-darned "Intuitive", why wasn't it designed right the first time?
If I close a program, it goes away. Why would it still be there?
If I drag a file to the trash, it's gone, waiting to be deleted perhaps. If I drag a disk to the trash, it isn't deleted at all! In fact, it spits at me!
...and god forbid if you try to eject something and the Mac wants it back later.
(How do you confuse a Mac? Take its CD out and put a different one in... (infinite loop, always asking for the *other* CD...))
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Chill out, Wah. Okay, so you were rejected again. This still isn't the place to get your message out.
:)
Well, we all know slashdot sucks, so get it posted on kuro5hin or something. Actually, its a good article, so if you don't, I will. But I'd rather you did, since you have that nifty "Retort".
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No, the kid was just typecasted to the parent of the same class. This is fair because then a girl would be "Valerie 2.0".
Or, perhaps someone was trying to say "Bruce's kid", in a geeky sort of way. I think that's what Linus was saying here.
However, abandoning common sense and continuing on with an alternate interpretation of the can of worms you insisted on creating where there was none before...
Using multiple inheritance and polymorphism correctly is bad enough in C++, and hyphenated names are kludgey in English, and I don't think the populace is ready for the gender-bending implications if the kid were Bruce-Valerie-2.0, possibly with both genders and other conflicts.
Basically, typecasting is incompatible with political-correctness, which just goes to show that programming languages are direct, to-the-point, and don't care about those wussy Humanities issues of fairness, children with more than one parent, or the English language.
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Gamecenter and their readers suggested stuff like this twice already. ...But it's still fun. :)
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Are you accusing Bill Gates of having a God Complex? I'm sure no one else would think him to be capable of such a thing!
I agree, whatever his problem is, he's certainly deluded if he thinks that DOS pushed the industry FORWARD. Maybe he's just dyslexic...
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I know it's true to life, guys. Satire is sometimes scarily accurate. But it's still just humor...
:)
(and Pi Squared is pretty close to g, actually...
So I guess my point is, who cares what g really is if no one uses it? Especially if it took them this long to find out they were wrong, they really weren't paying attention...
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In other news, Physicists admit to generally rounding their constants to 3, 2, or even 1 significant digit.
"I always used Pi Squared for g, the math seemed to come out right", said local physicist Fred Flintstone.
However, his assistant Barney Rubble disagreed, saying "Gee, Fred, I thought Pi was somewhere between 2 and 5. That doesn't sound very precise to me!"
Apparently the tried-and-true method of waiting for an apple to fall from a tree and counting "One Mississippi, Two Mississippi..." doesn't offer significant resolution to reliably yield a better approximation for g, either. Scientists are now experimenting with coconuts, and early results look optimistic.
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Oh no. He's different. Get rid of him.
He's made it clear that he's part of a separate movement. If you read that article and thought he was part of an "Open Source" movement, then you don't know how to read.
Also, gcc seems to compile code rather well, and I hear emacs can even be used to edit text!
So... just because someone doesn't fit in with your idea of a developer, they don't need to be deposed by some mainstream linux mafia. And RMS has one helluva track record for his quality of results.
The reason Linux is GPL'ed is out of respect for gcc. Think about that.
(For example:
I hate the GNU/Linux fiasco as much as the next guy, (in part just because RMS is being an asshole here, Linus has acknowledged the FSF's contribution from the very beginning) but I still don't hold it against Stallman, especially if Linus doesn't.
(don't be an involved third party when the first two parties don't care == none of your business))
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Think of it as a moral problem.
People don't like to starve.
Too many people and not enough food make for some unhappy people.
Or, if you like, starving people don't do a very good job of producing goods or performing services, and might end up stunted for life, besides.
"Overpopulation" means having more people than an area can support, like overgrazing. Overpopulation is a problem in precisely these times. Optimally using the Earth's resources, maybe we could have more people on Earth and keep them all happy. But as long as there are places where we can't, overpopulation is a problem.
Also, from my time on slashdot, "the more people [...] the better" isn't true at all. Society breaks down whenever it gets too crowded. This is true of rats, people, governments, and online forums.
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I find it funny when Stallman says something like "I'd rather not talk about it until I've talked to a lawyer"....
There's nothing wrong with being careful, we get enough phony legal advice on Slashdot. But what would it hurt? Looks like Stallman needs an Open Legal Community, so he can freely exchange ideas and get answers. "Many lawyers make all lawsuits trivial", or that sort of thing.
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once more people realize just how evil the RIAA is, and see mp3 as a viable alternative, maybe their sales will go down, and they will be forced to compete, or offer a more fair, legal alternative.
:)
I hope. In any case, I haven't bought CDs in a while. I've gotten a couple as presents, and I got The Matrix on a gift certificate. I was thinking of joining one of those music clubs ("11 Free CDs For $1" or whatnot), but they don't have much in the way of 11 decent CDs.
So what are you going to do, RIAA? Sell CDs at cost + royalties? Heck, give the artist a buck or two, I'll pay for that.
What does the current model look like?
cost
+ royalties
+ 3 cents for the artist
+ legal bills
+ media kickbacks
+ mafia kickbacks
+ money lost from drug seizures
+ legal bills from fighting the war on mp3's
I mean, really, *explain* where that $15-20 goes and I'll be impressed. That's a lot of money to account for. A book costs $5, and that's paper, wood pulp. The author gets money, the publisher gets money, the cover artist gets money, the book gets printed on a press that is already paid for. So where's the extra $10-15 that goes into the cost of the CD? Hmmm?
Or how about singles? They make money off of those, right? And they're about half the price of the CD. With nothing to make them cheaper. Implying that CDs could be half their current cost and *still* be very profitable.
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Rumors of the death of the DMOZ story have been greatly exaggerated?
:)
Oh well, reposting stories that disappeared off the main page is one way to combat first posters, I suppose.
Now let's get some news on this site!
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Unfortunately, many others seem to agree with you, and they're serious.
:)
I don't think a video card company is going to find some great, hidden knowledge in "bttv.c". I'm sure their programmers could produce something very similar in no time at all.
Given the choice between copying a little code illegally but alienating the community, or writing that same bit of code themselves, like usual, I think I know what they would have picked.
So why did NVIDIA do it? Because it was a mistake. Read the article again, read how the parties involved are taking it, (rather well, it seems) and cool off, guys.
Every time a new company comes along trying to use Linux in their business model, (Caldera, Corel, SGI, NVIDIA, etc...) I get anxious about it. I think to myself, "This time, we're going to have a GPL court case, there's no way this big nasty company will ever understand or respect what the community does"...
And so far I've been wrong. In this case, I like having these big companies prove me wrong and show that they really do get it, they're part of this movement too. And what do we get out of it? Better network integration tools, friendlier distributions, perhaps another journaling filesystem, fault tolerance, better multiprocessor support... and now 3D graphics drivers. Sounds good to me.
Give them time. Either they'll come around, or I'll be buying a Voodoo card soon.
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He's planning out a series for this trilogy, from the perspectives of Ender's friends in battle school. This one's from Petra's perspective, I think, and the last one was from Bean's p.o.v.
:)
Ender's Shadow was pretty good, it was weird having a lot of the dialogue from Ender's Game but with completely different stuff going on, but interesting as well. Of course, I'm a fan, so expect some bias...
I just did a paper about (among other things) Orson Scott Card, so here's some stuff on the site: the partial movie script for Ender's Game, (they had better not call them "Wooly Ants"! Why not Buggers, would the British be offended?), the complete bibliography, and his essays (in the library).
The essay about Fantasy and the reader is cool, since at one point he talks about how people overinterpret books and then act like their interpretation is the "correct" one. (that's what my paper was about...)
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Hey, it's new to timothy, right guys?
Nothing to see here, guys, just keep on trolling...
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Heh heh heh.
:)
Yeah, and emulating that stuff comes with quite a penalty, I understand.
Ah well, no Bleem. Next option?
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No, but gcc is available as a cross-compiler.
(see above, over-moderated crap about PSXDEV, sorry guys...)
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First, it's "conceited".
;)
Second, I've been here for a while, and it works like this. Moderators have a limited amount of time to look through a lot of posts for important stuff. Tagging a post with "Moderate this up!" increases the chance that they will look at it, and evaluate it to see if it looks important.
Therefore, writing something that looks important and saying "Moderate this up!" is a good way to get initially modded up. However, if you didn't deserve this moderation, you'll get flamed, sometimes quite legitimately, followed by "Insightful? WTF?!?!!", and get moderated down to oblivion.
Therefore, this tactic should only work correctly if you actually have something to say, which is the point of moderation in the first place.
I thought I had something important to say about what I saw as a rather large GPL violation. But upon rereading their page carefully, I realized that I was completely wrong. And maybe you could have figured that out from my reply to Foogle (if that was up at the time you posted), I essentially said "Never mind, my fault, etc., etc.".
Sure, their website is confusing, and they got other details wrong, but fundamentally I didn't realize what people were getting upset about, didn't see the source RPMs, and thought the situation was worse than it actually was.
Feel free to keep moderating, just mod the good posts up, and ignore these three!
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Don't mind me, I didn't realize this was just one package, I thought he meant the whole distribution (all of PSXDEV).
:)
(The wording didn't seem clear to me, just like where they say "GNU General Public License Version 2", and link to the LGPL...)
What confused me was, I still saw all the binary RPMs for the different packages, which would mean that he *is* still distributing it. Now I see the source RPMs, and realize they were just talking about one program.
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I quote from freshmeat:
PSXDEV is a free GPL'd development environment for the PlayStation (PSX).
Releases 6 and 7 (and probably earlier ones) were under the GPL. Therefore, he has to provide source for these versions, which he is not doing. Also, he must stop using any other GPL'ed code if he wishes to release binary RPM's to the public, and considering the nature of the product, this might be difficult. (We're talking about gcc, binutils... free software, guys!)
Someone please send him a nice e-mail explaining what he can and can't do with GPL'ed software. There's nothing wrong with changing your own license for a new version of a program that's all your code, but that isn't what's going on here.
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Maybe the various playstation projects for Linux will show some more progress? Or maybe people will show some more interest in them?
:)
Do any of the PSX emulators reimplement the BIOS functions with C routines? I heard that was what UltraHLE did. Besides, then non-PSX owners could use it without having to (legally) get a PSX BIOS.
However, I'd be very happy if a game company released a cross-platform emulator sometime before the system itself is dead. I don't want a Playstation, but I'd love to be able to play the later Final Fantasy games under Linux, for instance.
That means that either Square has to port them, x86/DOS/Windows emulators under Linux have to get a lot better (Wine doesn't run FF7; does Wine run "Bleem!"? Does VMWare use 3D-cards, or could the X Server help on that?), or PSX emulators will have to get a lot better. I'd happily buy Tactics, but I'd be playing it on my computer! (I don't have a TV, just a TV Card, getting a PSX just seems silly.
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lynx -dump http://www.execpc.com/~halkun/PSX/html/playstation .html > ps.txt
Because I couldn't read that *tiny* font, and the centered lines were annoying me. Also, the HTML file is *HUGE*, thanks to StarOffice. The text version is about 3.5 times smaller!
Maybe next time I'll try converting one of the other versions, or use a browser that better supports tables, but for now at least I can read the darn thing!
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People releasing mature, production-quality code to get hacked on are very cool.
:)
Maybe this could get used for floppies or RAM disks as well? Fast mp3-playing PC-like things? Or devfs, to save the state of the darn thing?
Anyhow, I'm sure the community will find nifty uses for it.
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I got www.macster.com so
I put www.toaster.org as my reply.
I like this site. Maybe I'll try it again tomorrow.
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Yeah, and it's the first chip I ever heard to have more L1 cache than L2 cache! (that's definitely a feature for the "value" market...)
:)
Not duplicating the data is interesting, what do they do, though? If data not found in L1, send data that will be overwritten to L2 cache, and read new data from L1 cache? If data not found in L2 cache, get data from memory, and write to L1 cache? Age stuff in L2 cache? I don't think it'd be too different, but it's weird...
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