This is valid but only applies to menial or more simple jobs.
Try that with software design (and development). I've seem people successfully talk themselves into a high level position they were not qualified for It has always (2 times, different companies) resulted in millions of $$$ of losses for the company in question due to a terrible delivered product, either cancelled outright or dramatically reduced in scale (after spending over $50 million over a decade, Fortune 300 level).
I've interviewed hundreds of developer candidates that effectively lied on their resumes, basically claiming "yes, I know how to do that". None could pass very basic tests (In plain language define an outer join. Seriously??? 80% fail rate - some just walked out when presented with the problem).
The reason these situations occur is because the "taskmasters" are either not capable of identifying competent candidates or that they are easily persuaded by less-than-qualified candidates. The situation is different if there is a really small pool of potential candidates, the best of the worst is a decent decision if required (in software this should never be the case, ever).
I can't blame them for coming out against the suggestions. It's a simple situation where self-preservation/job security is at risk. Would one expect them to suggest that their jobs are not important and required (or inherently illegal being in violation to the Constitution to the United States)?
I'm sure the legality of their actions and their interpretation of the Constitution to the United States is something they consider. At the same time they don't want to voluntarily tarnish or ruin their careers or legacy. Again, I can't blame them.
The fact is, the judges involved shouldn't have a say in what happens, and I would have appreciated their opinions NOT being made public. In fact, their opinions should NOT have been released to the public.
Why? The judges are cogs in the actual system being evaluated/examined. The analysis should be handled by external parties ('tis difficult to find Constitutionally based reviewers - who doesn't want the power???) and the results should be made public and be very detailed (I would like to see the government be one step ahead of the next Snowden release, one can dream, go Snowden!, keep letting us know what is going on).
People in a system will almost always support the status quo (Snowden is the perfect example of an individual willing to risk everything to expose the truth with evidence, imagine the moment he made that decision and how difficult it had to have been).
I know the guy that wrote SpinAmp during the late 1990s, which saved off MP3 files from spinner.com as they played. He wrote Winamp plugins for several services (the media file is on the computer at some point, just need to find the metadata files that say where it is and exactly what it is). His biggest achievement was an app that could save off Pandora sets. Doesn't work anymore but it was sweet back in the day.
Consider a fast food example, let's assume all fast food restaurants are automated this year - maybe each store has 1-2 technical positions and 2-3 inventory/supply positions, removing 30-50 minimum wage service positions. There are about 4.1 millions food prep/servicing positions in the US (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fast_food).
Does the average fast food worker want to be a fast food worker? Of course not, it's one of those "someone's got to do it" type of positions.
Anyway, they all get laid off and now there are 4 million people unemployed.
How do they get by?
It seems we have reached a two-fold intersection where: 1. Society could support/provide basic services to everyone 2. Automation actively reduces the number of jobs available
The current system funnels all excess profits to executives and stock holders (and further to politicians). This excess "could" be put to use supporting society, except that "freedom" and "personal responsibility" are opposed to such arrangements.
How can "personal responsibility" be resolved if there are no jobs one qualifies for?
A rule I'd like to see, which I believe is required for an advanced civilization to be civilized (no where on Earth qualifies that I know of), is that the poor should have benefits available that are equal to or greater than those provided to our prisoner populations. This includes housing, food, and medical care for a start.
Society could support this, but it chooses not to, seeking profits for a few instead.
For the record I'm reasonably libertarian, but I believe our technology has reached a point where a higher minimum level of social benefits should be provided to everyone.
The path we are headed down involves a huge underclass that won't just sit around and suffer forever.
And this is why American society is so against sex/boobs in movies and such. When you combine sex with a very common social thread, war (War on INSERT_TERM_HERE, or on other countries, we're always at war here or there), you end up with some very bad comedy.
In America, sex happens behind closed doors, opening the doors is offensive and prohibited. But we do see war and terror almost constantly, it seems to be what we do best (we certainly spend a lot on it, we better be good at it; and is conflict not a return on such spending? at least as the public may perceive it).
Since the kids are going to see the war aspect no matter what, we must shield them from sex. Or else terrible comedy will ensue...
I wish there was less war of all types. And on topic, I would appreciate some of those tutorials as well.
He should get a pass for everything. Shoot, give him $10 million US and a pile of gold, he is the winner of the "Who watches the Watchers?" award of the year.
Why? He exposed what is basically the collection of "all information" (anyone, anywhere, anytime, at least where there is some technology).
Good or bad, the US spies on everyone. No one's cell phone is out of the question. No one.
Blowback will include a return to cash transactions, more barter, and in-person communications (maybe personal letters, I have a feeling they are monitored as well). Basically a revolution against technology. The Matrix is a great model, some have woken up (escaped the system, maybe never in the system), most are still asleep and monitored, and the system itself can fully track anyone that hasn't woken up.
The US government is the machines from the Matrix (is or are, complicated question?).
I just scared myself with the realization. When Agent Smith spoke of humanity being a disease it never dawned on me that the machines were also a disease. And one that, while suckily, were resolved by the end of the extra movies. If only the complete spying by a "free" country could be resolved so easily, via a few hours of entertainment.......
What harm can come from the truth that is not deserved?
We are free to do what we please, but the legal system SHOULD deal out punishment for indiscretions (especially those that go against the ultimate law of the land, for the US this is the Constitution). As you pointed out, no one has been punished, this is THE core fault in the system given the public's knowledge of things.
Evidence of Constitutional breaches are important, evidence is far more powerful than what "everyone already knew" ("suspected" would have been a better word). Otherwise "knowing" is simply the realm of those with tin foil hats (who I have to assume have upgraded to full steel medieval helmets).
Some of us still care about the Constitution, and would like to see it upheld.
Burn a flag, everyone freaks out. Burn the Constitution, no one notices. This is especially clear given the critical information Snowden has released.
The Constitution is on fire. And that is what "we deserve"???
Kill Your Television was a song by the band Ned's Atomic Dustbin from an album releases in 1991 (their biggest hit in fact). I'm pretty sure they started the meme.
During cooking competition shows, which I do find interesting, they always cut to commercials before announcing the winner. At that point I exclaim, "and the winner is... Commercial Break!".
Given that, I would expect that under 20% of software engineers would be women (in no year did the % enrolled exceed 20%).
An individual, regardless of gender, must choose to go into engineering(software included), usually via a degree program (I went actuarial and then moved into software development - but I had a lot of software development experience previously, into architecture/process optimization now).
I see no issue or sexism based on the number of women entering engineering sciences. I imagine the stats generally follow the % by gender that seek such degrees.
My primary personal email has been a Yahoo account since sometime in 2000. Everyone I know has it, it is de facto (correct spelling anyone? a suggestion was "ed-facto").
I take the changes in stride, I only wish that the freaking mail item list was always associated with Arrow-Up/Arrow-Down. Am I always wanting to see my Sent Items or Deleted Items folders???
This has always been one of my qualms with the weaponized drones. No potential loss of life on the part of the attacker. Without this a conflict is not a war, it is pure oppression. By design it cannot be won, only dominated.
In my mind's eye I see a Terminator style war, except with US robots controlled by humans running the show. We don't need an AI.
It is interesting though, and not having found out about it when it was or would have been news makes it a good Slashdot topic (if for nothing else that making more people aware).
NIMBY isn't associated with the hydro, which is far from Phoenix in terms of production.
Further, the nuclear plant (largest in the US, a sight to see) is 45 miles west of Phoenix (a bad location to be honest, north and east of the city would have been safer given prevailing winds).
Did you know it's cooled by sewage (I didn't until a moment ago via Wikipedia): The Palo Verde Nuclear Power Plant is located in the Arizona desert, and is the only large nuclear power plant in the world that is not located near a large body of water. The power plant evaporates the water from the treated sewage from several nearby cities and towns to provide the cooling of the steam that it produces, as dictated by the laws of thermodynamics.
I love the comment about thermodynamics laws, and I wonder where the dried up sewage goes.
There's a lot of NIMBY north of Phoenix (Scottsdale, Cave Creek), try installing solar in a neighborhood (obviously if you have acreage no one will care). HOAs are terrible in the Phoenix area. Been there, done that.
But, we can guess many data points (which could be manipulated, but I'm not sure for what purpose - I believe the research is a 6 Degrees From Bacon exercise, and not a bad thing to pursue).
For Facebook or other social media, I'm assuming the extent of data access is deep. Find related Facebook/cell phone numbers (which may be able to be linked through social sites) and deep information is easy.
But I question why one would want to influence most of these to try and skew things. I could contact, while being monitored, Person-X 1,000 times, but unless a bunch of other people are doing so they would probably assume I'm talking to my spouse/partner/coworker (say in a start-up).
I've looked at a couple of links, one in the Slashdot post and the one you posted, but couldn't find a list of specific data points you are collecting.
Is there a link to the data point information, or could you provide more information? Data points by source would be great (potentially obvious, but seeing sources would make things clearer and more transparent).
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This is valid but only applies to menial or more simple jobs.
Try that with software design (and development). I've seem people successfully talk themselves into a high level position they were not qualified for It has always (2 times, different companies) resulted in millions of $$$ of losses for the company in question due to a terrible delivered product, either cancelled outright or dramatically reduced in scale (after spending over $50 million over a decade, Fortune 300 level).
I've interviewed hundreds of developer candidates that effectively lied on their resumes, basically claiming "yes, I know how to do that". None could pass very basic tests (In plain language define an outer join. Seriously??? 80% fail rate - some just walked out when presented with the problem).
The reason these situations occur is because the "taskmasters" are either not capable of identifying competent candidates or that they are easily persuaded by less-than-qualified candidates. The situation is different if there is a really small pool of potential candidates, the best of the worst is a decent decision if required (in software this should never be the case, ever).
I can't blame them for coming out against the suggestions. It's a simple situation where self-preservation/job security is at risk. Would one expect them to suggest that their jobs are not important and required (or inherently illegal being in violation to the Constitution to the United States)?
I'm sure the legality of their actions and their interpretation of the Constitution to the United States is something they consider. At the same time they don't want to voluntarily tarnish or ruin their careers or legacy. Again, I can't blame them.
The fact is, the judges involved shouldn't have a say in what happens, and I would have appreciated their opinions NOT being made public. In fact, their opinions should NOT have been released to the public.
Why? The judges are cogs in the actual system being evaluated/examined. The analysis should be handled by external parties ('tis difficult to find Constitutionally based reviewers - who doesn't want the power???) and the results should be made public and be very detailed (I would like to see the government be one step ahead of the next Snowden release, one can dream, go Snowden!, keep letting us know what is going on).
People in a system will almost always support the status quo (Snowden is the perfect example of an individual willing to risk everything to expose the truth with evidence, imagine the moment he made that decision and how difficult it had to have been).
It's just human nature.
I know the guy that wrote SpinAmp during the late 1990s, which saved off MP3 files from spinner.com as they played. He wrote Winamp plugins for several services (the media file is on the computer at some point, just need to find the metadata files that say where it is and exactly what it is). His biggest achievement was an app that could save off Pandora sets. Doesn't work anymore but it was sweet back in the day.
And I still use Winamp.
Who pays for it all?
Consider a fast food example, let's assume all fast food restaurants are automated this year - maybe each store has 1-2 technical positions and 2-3 inventory/supply positions, removing 30-50 minimum wage service positions. There are about 4.1 millions food prep/servicing positions in the US (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fast_food).
Does the average fast food worker want to be a fast food worker? Of course not, it's one of those "someone's got to do it" type of positions.
Anyway, they all get laid off and now there are 4 million people unemployed.
How do they get by?
It seems we have reached a two-fold intersection where:
1. Society could support/provide basic services to everyone
2. Automation actively reduces the number of jobs available
The current system funnels all excess profits to executives and stock holders (and further to politicians). This excess "could" be put to use supporting society, except that "freedom" and "personal responsibility" are opposed to such arrangements.
How can "personal responsibility" be resolved if there are no jobs one qualifies for?
A rule I'd like to see, which I believe is required for an advanced civilization to be civilized (no where on Earth qualifies that I know of), is that the poor should have benefits available that are equal to or greater than those provided to our prisoner populations. This includes housing, food, and medical care for a start.
Society could support this, but it chooses not to, seeking profits for a few instead.
For the record I'm reasonably libertarian, but I believe our technology has reached a point where a higher minimum level of social benefits should be provided to everyone.
The path we are headed down involves a huge underclass that won't just sit around and suffer forever.
They use US government technologies. We are very reliable, apparently.
And this is why American society is so against sex/boobs in movies and such. When you combine sex with a very common social thread, war (War on INSERT_TERM_HERE, or on other countries, we're always at war here or there), you end up with some very bad comedy.
In America, sex happens behind closed doors, opening the doors is offensive and prohibited. But we do see war and terror almost constantly, it seems to be what we do best (we certainly spend a lot on it, we better be good at it; and is conflict not a return on such spending? at least as the public may perceive it).
Since the kids are going to see the war aspect no matter what, we must shield them from sex. Or else terrible comedy will ensue...
I wish there was less war of all types. And on topic, I would appreciate some of those tutorials as well.
He has pointed out several other instances of other countries complicity in the US complete spying.
And our own.
He should get a pass for everything. Shoot, give him $10 million US and a pile of gold, he is the winner of the "Who watches the Watchers?" award of the year.
Why? He exposed what is basically the collection of "all information" (anyone, anywhere, anytime, at least where there is some technology).
Good or bad, the US spies on everyone. No one's cell phone is out of the question. No one.
Total Information Awareness has been achieved:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_Awareness_Office
Are you comfortable with that?
Blowback will include a return to cash transactions, more barter, and in-person communications (maybe personal letters, I have a feeling they are monitored as well). Basically a revolution against technology. The Matrix is a great model, some have woken up (escaped the system, maybe never in the system), most are still asleep and monitored, and the system itself can fully track anyone that hasn't woken up.
The US government is the machines from the Matrix (is or are, complicated question?).
I just scared myself with the realization. When Agent Smith spoke of humanity being a disease it never dawned on me that the machines were also a disease. And one that, while suckily, were resolved by the end of the extra movies. If only the complete spying by a "free" country could be resolved so easily, via a few hours of entertainment.......
What harm can come from the truth that is not deserved?
We are free to do what we please, but the legal system SHOULD deal out punishment for indiscretions (especially those that go against the ultimate law of the land, for the US this is the Constitution). As you pointed out, no one has been punished, this is THE core fault in the system given the public's knowledge of things.
Evidence of Constitutional breaches are important, evidence is far more powerful than what "everyone already knew" ("suspected" would have been a better word). Otherwise "knowing" is simply the realm of those with tin foil hats (who I have to assume have upgraded to full steel medieval helmets).
Some of us still care about the Constitution, and would like to see it upheld.
Burn a flag, everyone freaks out. Burn the Constitution, no one notices. This is especially clear given the critical information Snowden has released.
The Constitution is on fire. And that is what "we deserve"???
You watch very fast slideshows.
And the band had two pass players and one guitar, they had a cool sound.
Kill Your Television was a song by the band Ned's Atomic Dustbin from an album releases in 1991 (their biggest hit in fact). I'm pretty sure they started the meme.
Great song from the time, here's a link to save you time:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yan77UKYcg4
If you are bored, here's my band from back then (1992) covering their song Grey Cells Green (they are British):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohmvBojrPN4
I'm the skinny guitarist (wish I was still that way, hair included).
Clearly they need to expand the the scope of their data harvesting programs. An example of why is that they didn't stop the Boston bombers (even after Russia warned the FBI about Tamerlan Tsarnaev in 2011).
You need the song first.
Soap for sore eyes
Need to call home
If looks could kill I'd
Kill your Smartphone
And I'm assuming you are referring to Ned's Atomic Dustbin?
During cooking competition shows, which I do find interesting, they always cut to commercials before announcing the winner. At that point I exclaim, "and the winner is... Commercial Break!".
Tell me again what I should be buying...
The AC button was the Turbo button in my CRV, basically allowing the vehicle to hit 75 on an open highway...
The proposition to my wife was "speed or comfort", so we lumbered slowly down the road in a nice cool vehicle environment.
Are women a minority in other sciences?
Based on enrollment in engineering studies they are a distinct minority (17.7% in 2009 per the NSF PDF):
http://www.nsf.gov/statistics/wmpd/2013/pdf/tab2-9.pdf
Given that, I would expect that under 20% of software engineers would be women (in no year did the % enrolled exceed 20%).
An individual, regardless of gender, must choose to go into engineering(software included), usually via a degree program (I went actuarial and then moved into software development - but I had a lot of software development experience previously, into architecture/process optimization now).
As an alternate example, men only represent about 10% of the Registered Nurse population (not sure of the year):
http://www.minoritynurse.com/minority-nursing-statistics
I see no issue or sexism based on the number of women entering engineering sciences. I imagine the stats generally follow the % by gender that seek such degrees.
My primary personal email has been a Yahoo account since sometime in 2000. Everyone I know has it, it is de facto (correct spelling anyone? a suggestion was "ed-facto").
I take the changes in stride, I only wish that the freaking mail item list was always associated with Arrow-Up/Arrow-Down. Am I always wanting to see my Sent Items or Deleted Items folders???
"section of users with multiple e-mail clients to keep an eye on the competition"
Lotus Notes baby!!!! (and Outlook)
This has always been one of my qualms with the weaponized drones. No potential loss of life on the part of the attacker. Without this a conflict is not a war, it is pure oppression. By design it cannot be won, only dominated.
In my mind's eye I see a Terminator style war, except with US robots controlled by humans running the show. We don't need an AI.
It is interesting though, and not having found out about it when it was or would have been news makes it a good Slashdot topic (if for nothing else that making more people aware).
NIMBY isn't associated with the hydro, which is far from Phoenix in terms of production.
Further, the nuclear plant (largest in the US, a sight to see) is 45 miles west of Phoenix (a bad location to be honest, north and east of the city would have been safer given prevailing winds).
Did you know it's cooled by sewage (I didn't until a moment ago via Wikipedia):
The Palo Verde Nuclear Power Plant is located in the Arizona desert, and is the only large nuclear power plant in the world that is not located near a large body of water. The power plant evaporates the water from the treated sewage from several nearby cities and towns to provide the cooling of the steam that it produces, as dictated by the laws of thermodynamics.
I love the comment about thermodynamics laws, and I wonder where the dried up sewage goes.
Link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palo_Verde_Nuclear_Generating_Station
There's a lot of NIMBY north of Phoenix (Scottsdale, Cave Creek), try installing solar in a neighborhood (obviously if you have acreage no one will care). HOAs are terrible in the Phoenix area. Been there, done that.
Wish I had mod points, well spoken.
I considered that, good observation.
But, we can guess many data points (which could be manipulated, but I'm not sure for what purpose - I believe the research is a 6 Degrees From Bacon exercise, and not a bad thing to pursue).
For cell phones: http://www.theguardian.com/technology/interactive/2013/jun/12/what-is-metadata-nsa-surveillance#meta=0100000 (requires JS)
* phone number of every caller
* unique serial numbers of phones involved
* time of call
* duration of call
* location of each participant (maybe, my comment)
* telephone calling card numbers
For Facebook or other social media, I'm assuming the extent of data access is deep. Find related Facebook/cell phone numbers (which may be able to be linked through social sites) and deep information is easy.
But I question why one would want to influence most of these to try and skew things. I could contact, while being monitored, Person-X 1,000 times, but unless a bunch of other people are doing so they would probably assume I'm talking to my spouse/partner/coworker (say in a start-up).
I've looked at a couple of links, one in the Slashdot post and the one you posted, but couldn't find a list of specific data points you are collecting.
Links I went to:
https://cyberlaw.stanford.edu/blog/2013/11/what's-in-your-metadata
http://metaphone.me/learnmore
Is there a link to the data point information, or could you provide more information? Data points by source would be great (potentially obvious, but seeing sources would make things clearer and more transparent).
Thank you.