Bah! Bite my shinny metal ass.
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Generation Wrecked
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First we were "Slackers" who were good for nothing and completely disolutioned.
Then we were the "Uberkind" that could do no wrong, defied the establishment, and were successfull in spite of "how the previous generations had set us up".
and now...
We are doomed to a fate of financial ruin...so bottomless the pit into which we have fallen because of the ".com bust".
Bah! I am pretty sure that we...(if you can call it a "we"...I have never been all that sure about clasifications) will continue to do what we have always done about the "world" arround us....Give it the Finger and get on with getting on.
As some poster mentioned, it doesnt seem he is trying to figure out if this would make him rich or support a/corporation/. It sounded as if he was currious as the feasability of funding the bandwidth through adds for at least local places and maybe some larger vendors. Nothing major. Seems to me the biggest problem would be creating a piece of software...cross platform, of course....that would allow for this with no easy run arrounds.....of course since its for a small area...with a relatively close community....you might be able to rely on the honor system....i.e "just dont get arround the banner adds in the software because this is a free not for profit operation for yours and everyone elses benefit kind of thing..so be cool and let the banners be". Which I dont think is an entirely unheard of thing. that said, it might not be too hard to get local shops restaurants to participate now that so many are becoming web/net savy. give them a way to offer up to date specials on the spur of the momment("Till 9pm tonight, one free beer with purchase of Chicken Dinner. At Joe's Chicken Shack!" or "$.50 Kamikazee shots for the next hour @ The Lounge !"). If you get time donated from some of the college geeks for maintenence, and get really lucky some how on a couple of AP's and antenna's....then it seems a few hundred dollars a month is all you would have to generate to cover the bandwidth. Seems like a pretty neat project for a couple of CS students to tackle.
He went to the john. (bathroom) There goes John. (person)
general General
Fucker fucker
Lots of differences.....but if you are still in favor...then maybe we should start internally coding the century as a 2 digit number...cuase hell, these computers are gonna be gone by the time is the next century and such a complicated thing for users to deal with.
1)As root you have the ability to not only do damage to your own user files...but you have the ability to damage/destroy the whole system. Being a user on a UnixOS is one of its beauties. No matter how bad you screw up as a user, its only your files...the system will still be there.
2)OSX runs a number of Microsoft Applications....i.e. the Office Suite, and Outlook...which are notoriously prone to security problems.(albeit, quite a bit less on Mac)
Mix those two reasons and you get something like Windows, where one script sent by email, clicked on by an/uneducated/ user(and sometimes not even clicked on...just received by something like Outlook) while logged in as root....and poof there goes the whole machine....lucky, at least for the rest of us cause at least that users box is gone.....or really unlucky for the net community at large if the virus/worm/et.al. keeps the machine and starts doing nasty self propagation.
So, just dont do it. There is so little a regular user needs root for...and for that Apple has provided sudo....built in from the start.
Ok, so lets form a union so that our obsolete jobs don't disapear.
Thats just silly. If you want an idea of what unions do to a tech industry, try getting DSL in most parts of the US. You think it takes so long cause the "phone company" doesn't want to do it?
Nope.
The Phone Co unions are 90% of the problem. I had to work with them, to help straighten out their networks for DSL. I was there to be nothing more than a thorn in the side of union workers, cause they couldn't even be convinced to work well with other CO's within their own company.
There have been cases where union were good for a while, but let me tell you, in an industry where if you don't like your job that you can spend just a litle time improving yourself and end up with a better job....no, unions aren't the answer.
Sure, HellDesk sucks....BUT it IS the bottom of the food chain. What do you want, there is no such industry where the bottom job doesn't suck. But this ins't some industry where it takes 10 years to lean a new skill(by the way, in a union you would not be allowed to learn/practice a new skill if it threatend one of your "brothers" job), it takes months or a year to be proficient enough to get a job.
If you don't like your job, then move on. If you are on Hell Desk, and you don't think you can move up....well then its time to think about a new career. Remember, unions were invented because the ONLY employer in town was abusing its employees, and there was no way to get another job. That just isn't the case.
Hmmm, I just subscribed again about a month ago....figures. But really, what happens? If this takes a year to work out, does that mean I am out of that money? While being out that amount of money has little or no affect on me...the principle of it kinda bugs me. If it were the old days and it was Orwant and the rest running the mag...well, I wouldn't really care(I would trust them to make the effort). But this is a corporation we are talking about. Sounds like they are holding on to a piece of their business that is making money and not providing the service....seems like fraud to me. Which is what bothers me about this situation. Am I the only one getting this vibe?
I might contend this. I would argue that increase in population with decreased ability teach/supervise/mentor/care, not violence in the media is to blame. Violence has been arround for a long time in the media. Starsky and Hutch was a great TV show in the early 70's, so was the MOD Squad. Both quite violent, lots of shooting, lots of death. Maybe not as graphic as today, but the body count was still there. There were lots of others too. Sure Rap music is violent....BUT, the hood isn't violent because of it.....IT is violent because of the "Hood". So now this, another bandaid. Most of these things could be reduced my something simple, but something no one wants to pay for. Lowered student count per teacher, across the board, better wages for those that teach our children. Sure, a lot of teachers are terrible, but its either cause they are burned out from working 80-100 hours a week while making well under the middle class wages, or they are undereducated because who is going to go 100K in debt for a degree for a job that doesn't pay diddly. Instead, its just another quick fix. Its a matter of responsability.....and we as a country are not taking it seriously.
Count me in on these sentiments. I have been a backer of NV for a while. Performance in Win(games) was great, price was great, and they seemed to be going in a direction that 3dfx wasn't i.e. releaseing code. I have owned 3 of their cards. I WAS going to be buying two of the GeForces, but now......I just don't think I can bring my self to do it......I feel used, and my faith in NV is very diminished. It is just too bad. NVidia, if you are out there....you HAD a good thing going....its sad you chose this route instead.
Dimes
Note: My name and email.I feel serious enough about this to include it.
John Hughes Unix SA Global Market Technologies Chase Manhattan Bank John.T.Hughes#SPAM#@chase.com
Ok, lets put it another way.... Taking the music and making copies, THEN selling it to make a proffit....that would be stealing. On the other hand, if you don't mind me dating my self, if i get a cd I like and then make a cassette recording of it and pass it on to my friend to see how he likes it....thats not considered stealing.....mp3 is just the digital equiv of the old standard cassette.
I am not so sure that is the correct answer. Look at David Letterman.......one of his biggest targets is CBS. The company that owns him and his show. So I dont think that impartiality is completely out the window
This probably doesn't help much, but on my machines doubleclick.net resolves as 127.0.0.1, Not sure if this screws with the tracking info.....but it sure is nice not to have to wait for the adds to come up;-)
Yeah, you make a great point since education...especially at Universities, comes free of Charge! Oh, wait, thats right.....what the heck are all these bills I have for student loans....and what happened to all the money I made doing odd jobs while in school?!?!?!?!?!?! Before you go around waving that flag, remove your head from that self rightous place that it is....and remember, these aren't some general group of subsidized high school kids...they are adults, who pay considerably large amounts of money to attend a particular school. Yes I know, that the schools get money from the government....but not as nearly as much as they bilk from their student body, or from their contributors. As an aside, I can practically here the plumetting enrollment rates at UofA:-). If she keeps this up, she'll get what she wants: No students using the Universities resources other than proscribed by her. There wont be a UofA, due to lack of a studentbody, and as such, no impropper use of resources!
So for about 2-3 years now slashdot has been my main source of news in my life(yeah, so what, the rest of my life is pretty skewed too). No Hemos has to go and maention Moby too, as a major bright spot in his year. Which might possibly be one of the best releases of new music in years.
In my freshman year in High School, I took a very exhaustive psycological test to see where I should be putting my educational energies....i.e., What my strengths were, What I should consider doing as a career, etc. It took a long time and covered so many things that seemed to me at the time to have no bearing on my life what so ever....but, it was supposed to be the most highly regarded test of its type at the time. What did it tell me? It told me I should be a Truck Driver or a Chicken Rancher[HONEST TO GOD....a chicken rancher)! Out of thousands of careers(I saw the list), it spit that out! I didn't know what to say at the time. All I can say is I am glad I didn't subscribe to its opinion of me. I am now 28 and happilly a Unix Systems Administrator breaking 6 figures a year. So what is my pointless? Psyc tests are all good and well, but we are all different, generalizations are bad, and have been the blunder of many empires( not to mention the ruin of lives, families, and futures). M-2K can only lead to bad things.
Linux is cool and all....and I am glad Linus saw fit to release it. I am also glad so many saw fit to work on it and contribute to it. I have been using it for 4 years and it has been something that I am constantly impressed with...... .......but why does it *have* to be art. Is it less of a thing if it is not *art*?? By the same media that once denounced it, it is now elevated to ArtHood. Please,....in the end Linux was and is, and those that used it saw that it was good, and having used it, gained productivity and reduced hair loss. So it has been written and recorded unto time hence forth....etc., etc,...so forth and so on.
Slashdot Mirror
First we were "Slackers" who were good for nothing and completely disolutioned.
Then we were the "Uberkind" that could do no wrong, defied the establishment, and were successfull in spite of "how the previous generations had set us up".
and now...
We are doomed to a fate of financial ruin...so bottomless the pit into which we have fallen because of the ".com bust".
Bah! I am pretty sure that we...(if you can call it a "we"...I have never been all that sure about clasifications) will continue to do what we have always done about the "world" arround us....Give it the Finger and get on with getting on.
dimes
As some poster mentioned, it doesnt seem he is trying to figure out if this would make him rich or support a /corporation/. It sounded as if he was currious as the feasability of funding the bandwidth through adds for at least local places and maybe some larger vendors. Nothing major. Seems to me the biggest problem would be creating a piece of software...cross platform, of course....that would allow for this with no easy run arrounds.....of course since its for a small area...with a relatively close community....you might be able to rely on the honor system....i.e "just dont get arround the banner adds in the software because this is a free not for profit operation for yours and everyone elses benefit kind of thing..so be cool and let the banners be". Which I dont think is an entirely unheard of thing. that said, it might not be too hard to get local shops restaurants to participate now that so many are becoming web/net savy. give them a way to offer up to date specials on the spur of the momment("Till 9pm tonight, one free beer with purchase of Chicken Dinner. At Joe's Chicken Shack!" or "$.50 Kamikazee shots for the next hour @ The Lounge !"). If you get time donated from some of the college geeks for maintenence, and get really lucky some how on a couple of AP's and antenna's....then it seems a few hundred dollars a month is all you would have to generate to cover the bandwidth. Seems like a pretty neat project for a couple of CS students to tackle.
.02
Dunno, just my
Dimes
Ok, not School....bad example...some better ones:
red == a color
Red == a person(name)
He went to the john. (bathroom)
There goes John. (person)
general
General
Fucker
fucker
Lots of differences.....but if you are still in favor...then maybe we should start internally coding the century as a 2 digit number...cuase hell, these computers are gonna be gone by the time is the next century and such a complicated thing for users to deal with.
dimes
....an even more significant reason:
/uneducated/ user(and sometimes not even clicked on...just received by something like Outlook) while logged in as root....and poof there goes the whole machine....lucky, at least for the rest of us cause at least that users box is gone.....or really unlucky for the net community at large if the virus/worm/et.al. keeps the machine and starts doing nasty self propagation.
1)As root you have the ability to not only do damage to your own user files...but you have the ability to damage/destroy the whole system. Being a user on a UnixOS is one of its beauties. No matter how bad you screw up as a user, its only your files...the system will still be there.
2)OSX runs a number of Microsoft Applications....i.e. the Office Suite, and Outlook...which are notoriously prone to security problems.(albeit, quite a bit less on Mac)
Mix those two reasons and you get something like Windows, where one script sent by email, clicked on by an
So, just dont do it. There is so little a regular user needs root for...and for that Apple has provided sudo....built in from the start.
Dimes
test
Ok, so lets form a union so that our obsolete jobs don't disapear.
Thats just silly. If you want an idea of what unions do to a tech industry, try getting DSL in most parts of the US. You think it takes so long cause the "phone company" doesn't want to do it?
Nope.
The Phone Co unions are 90% of the problem. I had to work with them, to help straighten out their networks for DSL. I was there to be nothing more than a thorn in the side of union workers, cause they couldn't even be convinced to work well with other CO's within their own company.
There have been cases where union were good for a while, but let me tell you, in an industry where if you don't like your job that you can spend just a litle time improving yourself and end up with a better job....no, unions aren't the answer.
Sure, HellDesk sucks....BUT it IS the bottom of the food chain. What do you want, there is no such industry where the bottom job doesn't suck. But this ins't some industry where it takes 10 years to lean a new skill(by the way, in a union you would not be allowed to learn/practice a new skill if it threatend one of your "brothers" job), it takes months or a year to be proficient enough to get a job.
If you don't like your job, then move on. If you are on Hell Desk, and you don't think you can move up....well then its time to think about a new career. Remember, unions were invented because the ONLY employer in town was abusing its employees, and there was no way to get another job. That just isn't the case.
Hmmm, I just subscribed again about a month ago....figures. But really, what happens? If this takes a year to work out, does that mean I am out of that money? While being out that amount of money has little or no affect on me...the principle of it kinda bugs me. If it were the old days and it was Orwant and the rest running the mag...well, I wouldn't really care(I would trust them to make the effort). But this is a corporation we are talking about. Sounds like they are holding on to a piece of their business that is making money and not providing the service....seems like fraud to me. Which is what bothers me about this situation. Am I the only one getting this vibe?
Dimes
I might contend this. I would argue that increase in population with decreased ability teach/supervise/mentor/care, not violence in the media is to blame. Violence has been arround for a long time in the media. Starsky and Hutch was a great TV show in the early 70's, so was the MOD Squad. Both quite violent, lots of shooting, lots of death. Maybe not as graphic as today, but the body count was still there. There were lots of others too. Sure Rap music is violent....BUT, the hood isn't violent because of it.....IT is violent because of the "Hood". So now this, another bandaid. Most of these things could be reduced my something simple, but something no one wants to pay for. Lowered student count per teacher, across the board, better wages for those that teach our children. Sure, a lot of teachers are terrible, but its either cause they are burned out from working 80-100 hours a week while making well under the middle class wages, or they are undereducated because who is going to go 100K in debt for a degree for a job that doesn't pay diddly. Instead, its just another quick fix. Its a matter of responsability.....and we as a country are not taking it seriously.
Dimes
Count me in on these sentiments. I have been a backer of NV for a while. Performance in Win(games) was great, price was great, and they seemed to be going in a direction that 3dfx wasn't i.e. releaseing code. I have owned 3 of their cards. I WAS going to be buying two of the GeForces, but now......I just don't think I can bring my self to do it......I feel used, and my faith in NV is very diminished. It is just too bad. NVidia, if you are out there....you HAD a good thing going....its sad you chose this route instead.
Dimes
Note: My name and email.I feel serious enough about this to include it.
John Hughes
Unix SA
Global Market Technologies
Chase Manhattan Bank
John.T.Hughes#SPAM#@chase.com
Ok, lets put it another way....
Taking the music and making copies, THEN selling it to make a proffit....that would be stealing. On the other hand, if you don't mind me dating my self, if i get a cd I like and then make a cassette recording of it and pass it on to my friend to see how he likes it....thats not considered stealing.....mp3 is just the digital equiv of the old standard cassette.
Dimes
I am not so sure that is the correct answer. Look at David Letterman.......one of his biggest targets is CBS. The company that owns him and his show. So I dont think that impartiality is completely out the window
Dimes
This probably doesn't help much, but on my machines doubleclick.net resolves as 127.0.0.1, Not sure if this screws with the tracking info.....but it sure is nice not to have to wait for the adds to come up ;-)
dimes
Yeah, you make a great point since education...especially at Universities, comes free of Charge! Oh, wait, thats right.....what the heck are all these bills I have for student loans....and what happened to all the money I made doing odd jobs while in school?!?!?!?!?!?! Before you go around waving that flag, remove your head from that self rightous place that it is....and remember, these aren't some general group of subsidized high school kids...they are adults, who pay considerably large amounts of money to attend a particular school. Yes I know, that the schools get money from the government....but not as nearly as much as they bilk from their student body, or from their contributors. :-). If she keeps this up, she'll get what she wants: No students using the Universities resources other than proscribed by her. There wont be a UofA, due to lack of a studentbody, and as such, no impropper use of resources!
As an aside, I can practically here the plumetting enrollment rates at UofA
Dimes
So for about 2-3 years now slashdot has been my main source of news in my life(yeah, so what, the rest of my life is pretty skewed too). No Hemos has to go and maention Moby too, as a major bright spot in his year. Which might possibly be one of the best releases of new music in years.
Slashdot, Nanotech, Moby OH My!
Isn't Office 2000 already out? I swear I have seen it floating around the office lately.
In my freshman year in High School, I took a very exhaustive psycological test to see where I should be putting my educational energies....i.e., What my strengths were, What I should consider doing as a career, etc. It took a long time and covered so many things that seemed to me at the time to have no bearing on my life what so ever....but, it was supposed to be the most highly regarded test of its type at the time.
What did it tell me? It told me I should be a Truck Driver or a Chicken Rancher[HONEST TO GOD....a chicken rancher)! Out of thousands of careers(I saw the list), it spit that out! I didn't know what to say at the time.
All I can say is I am glad I didn't subscribe to its opinion of me. I am now 28 and happilly a Unix Systems Administrator breaking 6 figures a year.
So what is my pointless? Psyc tests are all good and well, but we are all different, generalizations are bad, and have been the blunder of many empires( not to mention the ruin of lives, families, and futures). M-2K can only lead to bad things.
Linux is cool and all....and I am glad Linus saw fit to release it. I am also glad so many saw fit to work on it and contribute to it. I have been using it for 4 years and it has been something that I am constantly impressed with...... ....in the end Linux was and is, and those that used it saw that it was good, and having used it, gained productivity and reduced hair loss. So it has been written and recorded unto time hence forth....etc., etc, ...so forth and so on.
.......but why does it *have* to be art. Is it less of a thing if it is not *art*?? By the same media that once denounced it, it is now elevated to ArtHood. Please,