and stop telling the lies about the founding father of the people's republic. the truth is still that YOU DO NOT HAVE ANY EVIDENCE BACKING UP YOUR CLAIMS OF LIES. yeah, right. Chairmao Mao found the republic and dared to stab U.S.A in both vietnam and korea, so you pity western clowns hate him so much. but we chinese people love him. despite of his mistaks in the economics. Your disguesting claim sounds to me is like calling your George.Washington is a massive murderor of birtish soldier, and lincoln is rather a butchor of people of the southern states. and the two barbarians should be hanged in a manner similar to Saddam. How does this sound to you!
i think every westerner shall understand something first. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9QNKB34cJo the video above presents common chinese people(like me)'s feeling about how you guys' evil stance on China's Tibet. and this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSQnK5FcKas to reveal how westerner media blend the truth on the recent incident.
i'm a commoner and not a commie agent that you westerners used to call the ones who says something not western. i can tell judged by the poor quality and the signature the both video clips are made by some fellow patriotic chinese internet user, not gov't agent. they are just trying to make you libral-alike heroes know what really happened in the tibet region. i understand you people hate anything communist,that's ok with me. but you should realize if you turned your finger to Chinese/China in large, you are against 1/6 of the earth peopulation. Trying to undermine China will only result in confrontation with everyone in China, either communist or non-communist. if confrontation is your goal, keep doing it, a world war III will be the only outcome.
"The Chinese people have committed such a heinous crime against these people. Mao's army committed massive acts of rape. THE CHINESE ARMY F"ORCED TEENAGE GIRLS INTO SEX SERVICE." ========= fuck you , how did you make up those bullshit! have you ever been China , or have any kind of evidence!? if you keep telling false things like this, the only crime the Chinese people will do will be to you. Go to hell , you fucking western underdog. dare you not use/buy anything chinese. else you will get a car crashing on you . do not act like an enemry of chinese people, or they will get you. fuck you.
thanks for the info. actually, there is a chinese version of slashdot, called http://solidot.org/ Solidot,or Qi-Ke(strange vistor) website.. the news on it is not up-to-date like here..and commentors also are fewer than here. that's why it not well known to many of my folks.
basically, the cenorship mainly affects the average interent user. it blocks the hottest topics through triggle words, nuked domain name. or black lists of websites. technically and usually, a working proxy can bypass most of these blockade. so reaching out is not really hard.. the main problem is the english language rather than the censorship.
Reading unlawful information is seldom interested by the authority, as long as the reader does not redistribute the information.. it's like to say. you can watch porn online.nobody cares, but if you build a website selling porn. the police will get you.. also amount of data would not interest the police. sharing porn video via p2p is quite rampant in china. the law bans it, but young computer user still have their way..
yeah, i have just tried to put some chinese characters in here. they didnt show up.. the slashdot site seem less open than the microsoft site. that should be not the way.
As a chinese, from what have happened I know in tibet, I do not think what those mobs were doing is right. those mobs burnt cars, banks, houses and shops owned by their folks. The pictures shown by both western and Chinese media look so familar with those taken from that freed Iraq. I'm also afraid if we let them have their way, they will turn people like me back to poverty. I just got my little sales bussines started days ago. So i just wish those freedom fighters could do their course in a more civil way..
As a Chinese living in the mainland China, i hate those american-made horror movies to the extreme. Those films show nothing but blood, corpus, body parts, and the core technology of making those -- killing. Why would i want watching those damned american waste? Why would i want my friends watching those? So the horror ban to me personally is in my pleasure. I have nothing against the ban. Besides, those people who still want to watch those video can still find them in website downloads, on "non-genuine" CD/DVD copies,on some rural video-cast assemblies and so on.. Basically the ban just show the official stance against those horror movies, not our common people's adoption to the movies. People will still watch those movie if they want. Remember?this is a country in where anything can be put on CD is non-genuine. My commie overlords also have been banning the piracy on intellectual properties for decades and people still copy everything they can.
I agree with the hongkong folk i saw above that we hate our dictatorial gov as well as we hate american's international impudence. I don't trust anyone without they showing me the real goodie, including the govs of both the middle kingdom and the US. I also believe that watching too much horror movies can cause more school shooting. take care..
The so-called GFW is actually a composition of all kinds of security, anti-virus, or firewall software installed on every node of China's internet. Even a netcafe-use rounter can be found having some kind of build-in active filter. Basicly the cencership's a part of China's IT industry, it's like a national standard of requirement.
That's true. Microsoft is still making money in that price. People here in China usually buy a disc(with windows or whatever on it) for less than 5 Yuan(7.5 Yuan equals 1 US dollar). A 3-dollar piece is considered quite expensive for students. For some who came from rural areas, 3 dollars means food supply for 3 (or more)days . Not to mention that sharing and downloading are quite common methods to obtain software among students.
A good PHPer should write codes that works in both PHP4 and PHP5. It's not hard. Normally code which runs good in STRICT error reporting mode of PHP4 can run under PHP5 without changes. I have been doing this for three years. My local development evironment is the lastest PHP5.2x+ Mysql6.x beta + apache 2.2 but my deploy evironment is still in PHP4.x. My code works fine all the time;
I understand you people keep commplaining about some legacy defects of PHP. Legendary monsters like "Magic Quotes", lack of native UTF8 support, "interpreted", "weak typed", and a lair of countless functions are worst enemies of you noble architects of codes.
But in my real world, text-based web applications need very few of those acadamical design. The PHP official website hosts , for example, not a full-featured MVC frameworks, but a template engine called Smarty, which is roughly an equivent to the View part of the classical MVC pattern. Why so? Because in PHP applications, Models are mostly nothing but SQL queries and largely can be mixed with the Controllers. So, we all can see in PHP world, people concerns more about HTML output than the church-like academical, mysterious code behind webpages in languages like Java. This output-centred way of programing could be the reason why PHP has more beautiful, creative websites than any other programming language. Lets just count those Forum, Wiki, CMS, On-line Shop products. All-mighty Java on the other hand always has industrial beauty in its code, but has very few web application/website that is received as beautiful, or reusable on the context level..
In its design, PHP script needs to be excuted in a very short time(better in millisecond). the longer the worse performance is. PHP's not a right language for tasks like encoding or decoding some video clips, nor is any other scirpting language. So the complex logics which need multi-layer abstraction with classes and objects from mechanical level calls to device to business logic simply do not fit for PHP. PHP's job is doing mainly top-level business logics with texts(T from HTML). And for business logics, even the real braindead language like VBS can handle them very well, not to mention it is PHP which does support OOP. Wise asses should pick the right tool for the right job.
To those who favors Python, Perl, or Ruby, i just say those languages don't have an unified, universal solution as PHP gives us.
"Things that experienced programmers will cringe at because they know full well that it will likely cause a headache later."
Instead of complaining about php, "experienced programmers" can do anything with any tool. either it is PHP, Perl, Ruby, Python, ASM, C/CPP. or alienian symbols. They adopt any language well enough to do anything they want. Any one who still complaining about PHP is definitely not "experienced" neither in PHP nor programming at all. because PHP is in most cases powerful enough!
Someone must have forgetten the fact that every computer in China hosts either Intel or AMD processors. Those two brands are owned by U.S. of A., if I'm not wrong.. If we goes to 'cyber-war', we will be soon running out of CPUs of messive destruction!
The blog site of sina.com(ranked 13 in global traffic by alexa index) is built entirely with PHP.
It's the biggest blog site in China, with more 50 million users including thousands of Chinese celebrities.
The blog site deeply use ajax techniques and has a video blog built also with PHP.
My point is that if PHP can handle an interactive website(AJAX+Video) with more then 50 million users and more than 10 million page hit a day, what else in the 'net' PHP cannot do?
The 10 computers in my office are all with Windows and Norton installed. All of the softwares were brought from an unknown CD vendor at a very reasonable price. At this moment everything seems still fine.
Except some of the computers have an annoying banner popping up from the bottom-right corner of screen states "You possibly are a victim of privated software". I wish Norton would have taken this banner a malware.
Those who throw stones at PHP must realize a fact there are plenty of advantages owns to PHP..Easy To Learn. Any intellectualized human being can learn the language within few days and become very productive..Open source. If you feel PHP isn't fast enough, go write your own extension in all-mighty C language with php source code..Muilti-platform. Write Once , Run Everywhere, so is PHP..Well-supported. Zendand the rest of the whole world of hosting companies..Huge Resources. There are tens of thousand of php applications available in the form of source code, which means countless ways of good practice you can easily learn from or make use of, without taking univerity/church-level studies. Some times you can just download and run some code package, an awesome website of yours will be instantly ready..Productivity. One man can work out a whole web OA solution with in a month, or a portal web in one week, or a online forum in a couple of days. In PHP world, it's not a legend, but pretty common. some say those are dirty coders. but what's the matter. they get things done and working, and they get paid..Mature, Handy . In contrast to python, rudy, or perl, php has a comprehensive/strong/handy APIs for handling of database, arrays,html,strings which are more easily, out-of-box and ready than those of others' . For example, php has solid build-in support for sqlite database and all major database systems, while python's support for sqlite , mysql or any other db is still in question(there is no standard solution).
I say PHP is the best tool for light IT professionals who want to build some online business. eg. web programmer/designers,network administrators, game fans.
For hardcore programmers, everyone knows you would use some more power weapons, such as Assembly, ISO C, java. But in 90% of all scenarios, php can put things out faster and easilier
Slashdot Mirror
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and stop telling the lies about the founding father of the people's republic. the truth is still that YOU DO NOT HAVE ANY EVIDENCE BACKING UP YOUR CLAIMS OF LIES.
yeah, right. Chairmao Mao found the republic and dared to stab U.S.A in both vietnam and korea, so you pity western clowns hate him so much.
but we chinese people love him. despite of his mistaks in the economics. Your disguesting claim sounds to me is like calling your George.Washington is a massive murderor of birtish soldier, and lincoln is rather a butchor of people of the southern states. and the two barbarians should be hanged in a manner similar to Saddam. How does this sound to you!
fuck you , you cheap anit-china scum!
i think every westerner shall understand something first.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9QNKB34cJo
the video above presents common chinese people(like me)'s feeling about how you guys' evil stance on China's Tibet.
and this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSQnK5FcKas
to reveal how westerner media blend the truth on the recent incident.
i'm a commoner and not a commie agent that you westerners used to call the ones who says something not western. i can tell judged by the poor quality and the signature the both video clips are made by some fellow patriotic chinese internet user, not gov't agent. they are just trying to make you libral-alike heroes know what really happened in the tibet region.
i understand you people hate anything communist,that's ok with me. but you should realize if you turned your finger to Chinese/China in large, you are against 1/6 of the earth peopulation. Trying to undermine China will only result in confrontation with everyone in China, either communist or non-communist. if confrontation is your goal, keep doing it, a world war III will be the only outcome.
"The Chinese people have committed such a heinous crime against these people. Mao's army committed massive acts of rape. THE CHINESE ARMY F"ORCED TEENAGE GIRLS INTO SEX SERVICE."
=========
fuck you , how did you make up those bullshit! have you ever been China , or have any kind of evidence!?
if you keep telling false things like this, the only crime the Chinese people will do will be to you.
Go to hell , you fucking western underdog. dare you not use/buy anything chinese. else you will get a car crashing on you .
do not act like an enemry of chinese people, or they will get you. fuck you.
thanks for the info. actually, there is a chinese version of slashdot, called http://solidot.org/ Solidot,or Qi-Ke(strange vistor) website..
the news on it is not up-to-date like here..and commentors also are fewer than here. that's why it not well known to many of my folks.
basically, the cenorship mainly affects the average interent user. it blocks the hottest topics through triggle words, nuked domain name. or black lists of websites. technically and usually, a working proxy can bypass most of these blockade. so reaching out is not really hard.. the main problem is the english language rather than the censorship.
Reading unlawful information is seldom interested by the authority, as long as the reader does not redistribute the information..
it's like to say. you can watch porn online.nobody cares, but if you build a website selling porn. the police will get you..
also amount of data would not interest the police. sharing porn video via p2p is quite rampant in china. the law bans it, but young computer user still have their way..
all chinese characters i have typed here became dot...
i take it as a censorship
yeah, i have just tried to put some chinese characters in here. they didnt show up.. the slashdot site seem less open than the microsoft site.
that should be not the way.
Being a chinese , the life is very tough.
,
the fact i can still get on the internet is something gratefully granted by the gov. i wouldn't dare to raise a trouble.
in china, any public voice that does not sound "harmonious" will be "harmonized". everything is for building a "harmonious society".
,
many websites has been "harmonized", which have become a common practice..
youtube,
through some technical means the youtube site can still be reached, but that's only to geeks like me.
As a chinese, from what have happened I know in tibet, I do not think what those mobs were doing is right.
those mobs burnt cars, banks, houses and shops owned by their folks. The pictures shown by both western and Chinese media look so familar with those taken from that freed Iraq. I'm also afraid if we let them have their way, they will turn people like me back to poverty. I just got my little sales bussines started days ago. So i just wish those freedom fighters could do their course in a more civil way..
Soon after you can write chinese ....:D
btw, a greeting from the Red China
As a Chinese living in the mainland China, i hate those american-made horror movies to the extreme. Those films show nothing but blood, corpus, body parts, and the core technology of making those -- killing. Why would i want watching those damned american waste? Why would i want my friends watching those?
So the horror ban to me personally is in my pleasure. I have nothing against the ban. Besides, those people who still want to watch those video can still find them in website downloads, on "non-genuine" CD/DVD copies,on some rural video-cast assemblies and so on..
Basically the ban just show the official stance against those horror movies, not our common people's adoption to the movies. People will still watch those movie if they want. Remember?this is a country in where anything can be put on CD is non-genuine. My commie overlords also have been banning the piracy on intellectual properties for decades and people still copy everything they can.
I agree with the hongkong folk i saw above that we hate our dictatorial gov as well as we hate american's international impudence. I don't trust anyone without they showing me the real goodie, including the govs of both the middle kingdom and the US.
I also believe that watching too much horror movies can cause more school shooting. take care..
The so-called GFW is actually a composition of all kinds of security, anti-virus, or firewall software installed on every node of China's internet. Even a netcafe-use rounter can be found having some kind of build-in active filter. Basicly the cencership's a part of China's IT industry, it's like a national standard of requirement.
That's true. Microsoft is still making money in that price.
People here in China usually buy a disc(with windows or whatever on it) for less than 5 Yuan(7.5 Yuan equals 1 US dollar).
A 3-dollar piece is considered quite expensive for students. For some who came from rural areas, 3 dollars means food supply for 3 (or more)days .
Not to mention that sharing and downloading are quite common methods to obtain software among students.
A good PHPer should write codes that works in both PHP4 and PHP5.
It's not hard. Normally code which runs good in STRICT error reporting mode of PHP4 can run under PHP5 without changes.
I have been doing this for three years. My local development evironment is the lastest PHP5.2x+ Mysql6.x beta + apache 2.2
but my deploy evironment is still in PHP4.x. My code works fine all the time;
I understand you people keep commplaining about some legacy defects of PHP. Legendary monsters like "Magic Quotes", lack of native UTF8 support, "interpreted", "weak typed", and a lair of countless functions are worst enemies of you noble architects of codes.
But in my real world, text-based web applications need very few of those acadamical design. The PHP official website hosts , for example, not a full-featured MVC frameworks, but a template engine called Smarty, which is roughly an equivent to the View part of the classical MVC pattern. Why so? Because in PHP applications, Models are mostly nothing but SQL queries and largely can be mixed with the Controllers. So, we all can see in PHP world, people concerns more about HTML output than the church-like academical, mysterious code behind webpages in languages like Java. This output-centred way of programing could be the reason why PHP has more beautiful, creative websites than any other programming language. Lets just count those Forum, Wiki, CMS, On-line Shop products. All-mighty Java on the other hand always has industrial beauty in its code, but has very few web application/website that is received as beautiful, or reusable on the context level..
In its design, PHP script needs to be excuted in a very short time(better in millisecond). the longer the worse performance is. PHP's not a right language for tasks like encoding or decoding some video clips, nor is any other scirpting language. So the complex logics which need multi-layer abstraction with classes and objects from mechanical level calls to device to business logic simply do not fit for PHP. PHP's job is doing mainly top-level business logics with texts(T from HTML). And for business logics, even the real braindead language like VBS can handle them very well, not to mention it is PHP which does support OOP. Wise asses should pick the right tool for the right job.
To those who favors Python, Perl, or Ruby, i just say those languages don't have an unified, universal solution as PHP gives us.
"Things that experienced programmers will cringe at because they know full well that it will likely cause a headache later."
Instead of complaining about php, "experienced programmers" can do anything with any tool. either it is PHP, Perl, Ruby, Python, ASM, C/CPP. or alienian symbols. They adopt any language well enough to do anything they want. Any one who still complaining about PHP is definitely not "experienced" neither in PHP nor programming at all. because PHP is in most cases powerful enough!
Someone must have forgetten the fact that every computer in China hosts either Intel or AMD processors. Those two brands are owned by U.S. of A., if I'm not wrong.. If we goes to 'cyber-war', we will be soon running out of CPUs of messive destruction!
you don't wanna mess up with millions of (awesome)PHPers, or they gonna eat you alive...
The blog site of sina.com(ranked 13 in global traffic by alexa index) is built entirely with PHP. It's the biggest blog site in China, with more 50 million users including thousands of Chinese celebrities. The blog site deeply use ajax techniques and has a video blog built also with PHP. My point is that if PHP can handle an interactive website(AJAX+Video) with more then 50 million users and more than 10 million page hit a day, what else in the 'net' PHP cannot do?
The 10 computers in my office are all with Windows and Norton installed. All of the softwares were brought from an unknown CD vendor at a very reasonable price. At this moment everything seems still fine.
Except some of the computers have an annoying banner popping up from the bottom-right corner of screen states "You possibly are a victim of privated software". I wish Norton would have taken this banner a malware.
the bigger the better.
Those who throw stones at PHP must realize a fact there are plenty of advantages owns to PHP. .Easy To Learn. Any intellectualized human being can learn the language within few days and become very productive. .Open source. If you feel PHP isn't fast enough, go write your own extension in all-mighty C language with php source code. .Muilti-platform. Write Once , Run Everywhere, so is PHP. .Well-supported. Zendand the rest of the whole world of hosting companies. .Huge Resources. There are tens of thousand of php applications available in the form of source code, which means countless ways of good practice you can easily learn from or make use of, without taking univerity/church-level studies. Some times you can just download and run some code package, an awesome website of yours will be instantly ready. .Productivity. One man can work out a whole web OA solution with in a month, or a portal web in one week, or a online forum in a couple of days. In PHP world, it's not a legend, but pretty common. some say those are dirty coders. but what's the matter. they get things done and working, and they get paid. .Mature, Handy . In contrast to python, rudy, or perl, php has a comprehensive/strong/handy APIs for handling of database, arrays,html,strings which are more easily, out-of-box and ready than those of others' . For example, php has solid build-in support for sqlite database and all major database systems, while python's support for sqlite , mysql or any other db is still in question(there is no standard solution).
I say PHP is the best tool for light IT professionals who want to build some online business. eg. web programmer/designers,network administrators, game fans.
For hardcore programmers, everyone knows you would use some more power weapons, such as Assembly, ISO C, java. But in 90% of all scenarios, php can put things out faster and easilier
One more reason for school shooting.