must be some version of southeastern tennessee that I'm not familiar with! I've lived here all of my life. I'm guessing you're talking about somewhere in Polk County, though?
So you're saying your PHB actually looked at long term results over short term?
My PHB is an advocate for free and open source software. And his PHB is, in fact, willing to consider long-term costs. I also pulled OSHA out of thin air about recommendations for eye strain and ergonomic reasons.
"$200 for a 2.8GHz P4 with 1GB of RAM. It is the only way I can keep up a 25% turn-over rate and stay under budget."
Alternatively, about $250 plus an hour to assemble it and install Linux will get you a dual-core Atom with 2GB of RAM and a 100+GB-ish hard drive; you'll probably save the difference in reduced power usage over the next couple of years, given how power-hungry P4s were.
I am waiting to see how the Atom is doing in the market for another 2 or 3 years. I am too conservative when it comes to buying 30 PCs a year to risk it on a new CPU. I am just now giving folks P4 technology, for goodness sakes!
I did recently get rid of all the CRTs. I had a slightly tough time justifying the cost of THAT swap out, but I had my power number comparisons in hand. High up-front cost, high long-term savings.
My company only buys refurb PCs off lease. $200 for a 2.8GHz P4 with 1GB of RAM. It is the only way I can keep up a 25% turn-over rate and stay under budget.
you are aware that U.S. citizens are being held at Guantanamo?
US Citizens that were caught fighting alongside terrorists. You really want to hold these people up as a shining example of the point you failed to make?
2. The Dell support script the tech was reading from did not take into account badly implemented on-line college courses that require IE, Outlook and Word.
What can we learn from this?
1. LEARN TO READ!
2. Improve the support script, since we know Dell won't actually pay money to attract smart support people that can go off-script and solve problems.
3. If you must enroll an electronic courses, read the frickin' computer requirements!
In October of 2008, I on a motorcycle trip in southeastern Tennessee. That night at the campground was the first I ever saw the Milky Way band in the sky.
I think that is sad that I was 37 years old the first time to see it with my own eyes.
Sounds like you're one of the most unproductive workers I can imagine.
The first thing that comes to my mind when I hear about people working these long hours is that they're wasting a lot of time.
Agreed. If you cannot complete your job in 40 hours, you either are doing it poorly, or the task needs a second person. I like my salaried tech support job. If I work more than 40 hours in a week, it is rare. I arrive at work at 7:30am, and leave at 4:00pm, Monday through Friday. I have 3 hours of quality time with my family, and with two little boys wanting to play with daddy, a lot is compressed into that 3 hours.
And if I need to leave early? I just do. As long as I get my 40 in per week, my boss doesn't care. So, I may arrive in 30 minute early a few days to make up for leaving early. As long as the math works out and the job is getting done, all is good.
Horrible products for years. Illicit money has been propping this company up for years.
This one is highly unlikely. The federal government recently spent a ton of money on McAfee's host-based security solutions. If they were smart, however, they might consider ditching their consumer-level stuff (it's crap...not saying the enterprise stuff is a lot better, but well....)
Here's the list for those who are too lazy to read TFA or allow Flash:
Cool. Thank for saving the click.
1) Novell
Odd. SUSE Linux is a popular product with many tie-in deals. They will be fine.
2) NetApp
Overpriced products easily duplicated with FreeNAS or any number of products at a fraction of the cost.
3) Checkpoint
Too many corporate support deals to go away quickly.
4) McAfee (let's hope so!)
Horrible products for years. Illicit money has been propping this company up for years.
5) Salesforce.com
Won't go away, but may have to scale back the development staff. Their product is too close to helping SaaS succeed.
6) Juniper, CA, and AMD are tied for sixth place.
AMD is stable. Juniper I could see going away.
7) Sun, no surprise there
Sun is a good company. Why do people harp on them?
8) Citrix
Their product is licenses by MS and integrated into Windows Server. I just don't see them going away.
9) Symantec (again, let's hope so!)
This is wishful thinking. Despite many years of bad product, their tie-ins with OEMs keep them afloat.
10) VMware
Now this is just crazy talk. VMware is a good product with a strong user base and good support. The free solutions simply don't compare in scope and flexibility.
$18.48 in just a year? That new LCD HDTV will practically pay for itself!
-Peter
And just when you think you recovered the cost of the TV, its time time to buy a new one! Oh, did I mention there is a special disposal fee for your old one?
Information shouldn't kill trees. While I don't claim to be very green, I see this as a good next step. The publishing industry will survive, they just need to stop fighting the changing face of the reader and work with the flow. I seem to remember Hollywood boo-hooing how the VCR would destroy them.
New TVs are not that expensive. Even pensioners could buy a new one. I don't think the government should be paying for any of this.
And what do your propose we do with 50 million SDTVs? That is a lot of garbage to process. A program to sell converter boxes will result less immediate waste. We can let our children worry about the mess of SDTVs *and* Receiver boxes.
Apple is reaping millions from the unwashed masses and unbathed developers. They are becoming rich on the sweat of others while lifting no finger of our own. Their profit margins are at an all-time high. As long as the iPhone remains a unified piece of technology under the control of one boss, it will remain a cohesive product. Upon becoming OSS, it runs the risk of zealots branching off versions purely for the sake of stroking their egos. Stevie is the only allowed stroke the ego when it comes to Apple crap.
Your argument is from the view of someone who doesn't understand the entire point of open source software.
And you appear to have no clue about principles of marketing. Simply put, if you give a consumer too many choices, there are good odds they will make NO choice and go elsewhere.
Linux needs to move beyond the geek, to the street.
6 more browsers that all do the same things the mainstream ones do.
Ah, but when you use these browsers, you can exercise a sense of superiority over your friends, for you have have chosen to walk a different path. A path that has fewer add-ons and support, but a different path, none the less.
How about the fact that there are way too many distrobutions, some of which are separated by nothing more than ideological lines?
I would agree with this. When talking to grandma about trying Linux since all she wants to do is check e-mail, look at pictures of the grand kids and keep her MySpace page updated, you get the question thrown back..."why so many different ones? Are they all different?"
Second item...pick one desktop. GNOME, KDE...whatever. Just pick one.
Third item...attitude of Linux supporters. Stop being so darn elitist! You want people to use it, then be friendly about it. The best way to turn someone off to Linux is to come off sounding like a zealot or an extremist.
It comes down to this summary: Windows users are not used to choice, thus, don't give them any. Market linux to them as more secure. Be honest about some devices not working, explaining that the Microsoft marketing machine is simply more powerful, but Linux will get there someday. We should be able to point the average Windows user to "Linux", a single cohesive product.
For the now, it is a religious battle by a bunch of zealous extremists. Get off your high horses and get to the business of taking over the world first...then argue about which distro was better.
"Has Rockstar gotten a better balance between draconian DRM and fair copy protection here?"
No. The fact that any sort of DRM that requires access to some other device out on the interwebz when you install it means that someday when Rockstar gets bought/sued out of existence, you might be able to install the game ever again. Until, that is, someone releases a crack for the scheme.
I have games from my DOS days that I can still freely install. THAT is software freedom. Anything less is not.
In the USA, we are supposedly innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Thus, you can claim you are falsely accused up to the point where a judge banks the gavel and declares you guilty.
At least, that is what my elementary school teacher taught me back in the 70's.
No, srsly. Good by, Lively. Of all Google betas, this one has stinker written on it from the start. I have a reasonably fast PC, memory and internet connection, and Lively was a dog! A one-legged dog trying to run in the 100 yd dash.
Maybe instead of a multi-user interactive world, they can turn search results into 3D experience. You enter your search term and a cloud of results appear. You move about, click on a result to see the page, or click on it to get a different set of search results. Efficient? No. High Eye-Candy factor? Yes.
Does this mean that AMD chips are now competitive on price-performance with Intel's? I mean for a fairly high-end desktop or server; obviously different considerations apply in the embedded or netbook market.
What apps are you running? Do your apps take advantage of multiple cores (regardless of the speed) or risk pushing 17.6GB/sec of memory bandwidth? Then go for the new AMD or Intel CPU, as they are both stupid fast. If not, then you might be better served with a previous gen CPU at a much lower price.
I mean, really, we are talking about very small differences in speed at this point, right? Would the average person actually be able to detect the difference? I am all for ever faster processors, as it allows us to run ever more complex software, but I don't think either processor is a loser, so you would be good to go with either one.
Add in good quality components to match like SATA/300 drives and loads of memory to actually realize all of that speed.
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must be some version of southeastern tennessee that I'm not familiar with! I've lived here all of my life. I'm guessing you're talking about somewhere in Polk County, though?
Tellico Plains. Near Deal's Gap.
So you're saying your PHB actually looked at long term results over short term?
My PHB is an advocate for free and open source software. And his PHB is, in fact, willing to consider long-term costs. I also pulled OSHA out of thin air about recommendations for eye strain and ergonomic reasons.
Someone is going to figure out how to file a defense involving the release of Microsoft Windows, I just know it.
"$200 for a 2.8GHz P4 with 1GB of RAM. It is the only way I can keep up a 25% turn-over rate and stay under budget."
Alternatively, about $250 plus an hour to assemble it and install Linux will get you a dual-core Atom with 2GB of RAM and a 100+GB-ish hard drive; you'll probably save the difference in reduced power usage over the next couple of years, given how power-hungry P4s were.
I am waiting to see how the Atom is doing in the market for another 2 or 3 years. I am too conservative when it comes to buying 30 PCs a year to risk it on a new CPU. I am just now giving folks P4 technology, for goodness sakes!
I did recently get rid of all the CRTs. I had a slightly tough time justifying the cost of THAT swap out, but I had my power number comparisons in hand. High up-front cost, high long-term savings.
My company only buys refurb PCs off lease. $200 for a 2.8GHz P4 with 1GB of RAM. It is the only way I can keep up a 25% turn-over rate and stay under budget.
you are aware that U.S. citizens are being held at Guantanamo?
US Citizens that were caught fighting alongside terrorists. You really want to hold these people up as a shining example of the point you failed to make?
1. The consumer did not read before clicking.
2. The Dell support script the tech was reading from did not take into account badly implemented on-line college courses that require IE, Outlook and Word.
What can we learn from this?
1. LEARN TO READ!
2. Improve the support script, since we know Dell won't actually pay money to attract smart support people that can go off-script and solve problems.
3. If you must enroll an electronic courses, read the frickin' computer requirements!
In October of 2008, I on a motorcycle trip in southeastern Tennessee. That night at the campground was the first I ever saw the Milky Way band in the sky.
I think that is sad that I was 37 years old the first time to see it with my own eyes.
Sounds like you're one of the most unproductive workers I can imagine.
The first thing that comes to my mind when I hear about people working these long hours is that they're wasting a lot of time.
Agreed. If you cannot complete your job in 40 hours, you either are doing it poorly, or the task needs a second person. I like my salaried tech support job. If I work more than 40 hours in a week, it is rare. I arrive at work at 7:30am, and leave at 4:00pm, Monday through Friday. I have 3 hours of quality time with my family, and with two little boys wanting to play with daddy, a lot is compressed into that 3 hours.
And if I need to leave early? I just do. As long as I get my 40 in per week, my boss doesn't care. So, I may arrive in 30 minute early a few days to make up for leaving early. As long as the math works out and the job is getting done, all is good.
4) McAfee (let's hope so!)
Horrible products for years. Illicit money has been propping this company up for years.
This one is highly unlikely. The federal government recently spent a ton of money on McAfee's host-based security solutions. If they were smart, however, they might consider ditching their consumer-level stuff (it's crap...not saying the enterprise stuff is a lot better, but well....)
Like I said...illicit money. ;)
Here's the list for those who are too lazy to read TFA or allow Flash:
Cool. Thank for saving the click.
1) Novell
Odd. SUSE Linux is a popular product with many tie-in deals. They will be fine.
2) NetApp
Overpriced products easily duplicated with FreeNAS or any number of products at a fraction of the cost.
3) Checkpoint
Too many corporate support deals to go away quickly.
4) McAfee (let's hope so!)
Horrible products for years. Illicit money has been propping this company up for years.
5) Salesforce.com
Won't go away, but may have to scale back the development staff. Their product is too close to helping SaaS succeed.
6) Juniper, CA, and AMD are tied for sixth place.
AMD is stable. Juniper I could see going away.
7) Sun, no surprise there
Sun is a good company. Why do people harp on them?
8) Citrix
Their product is licenses by MS and integrated into Windows Server. I just don't see them going away.
9) Symantec (again, let's hope so!)
This is wishful thinking. Despite many years of bad product, their tie-ins with OEMs keep them afloat.
10) VMware
Now this is just crazy talk. VMware is a good product with a strong user base and good support. The free solutions simply don't compare in scope and flexibility.
$18.48 in just a year? That new LCD HDTV will practically pay for itself!
-Peter
And just when you think you recovered the cost of the TV, its time time to buy a new one! Oh, did I mention there is a special disposal fee for your old one?
Magazines shouldn't need batteries
Information shouldn't kill trees. While I don't claim to be very green, I see this as a good next step. The publishing industry will survive, they just need to stop fighting the changing face of the reader and work with the flow. I seem to remember Hollywood boo-hooing how the VCR would destroy them.
New TVs are not that expensive. Even pensioners could buy a new one. I don't think the government should be paying for any of this.
And what do your propose we do with 50 million SDTVs? That is a lot of garbage to process. A program to sell converter boxes will result less immediate waste. We can let our children worry about the mess of SDTVs *and* Receiver boxes.
They are getting rid of the DRM. Only one wish at a time granted, buddy!
Apple is reaping millions from the unwashed masses and unbathed developers. They are becoming rich on the sweat of others while lifting no finger of our own. Their profit margins are at an all-time high. As long as the iPhone remains a unified piece of technology under the control of one boss, it will remain a cohesive product. Upon becoming OSS, it runs the risk of zealots branching off versions purely for the sake of stroking their egos. Stevie is the only allowed stroke the ego when it comes to Apple crap.
Your argument is from the view of someone who doesn't understand the entire point of open source software.
And you appear to have no clue about principles of marketing. Simply put, if you give a consumer too many choices, there are good odds they will make NO choice and go elsewhere.
Linux needs to move beyond the geek, to the street.
6 more browsers that all do the same things the mainstream ones do.
Ah, but when you use these browsers, you can exercise a sense of superiority over your friends, for you have have chosen to walk a different path. A path that has fewer add-ons and support, but a different path, none the less.
How about the fact that there are way too many distrobutions, some of which are separated by nothing more than ideological lines?
I would agree with this. When talking to grandma about trying Linux since all she wants to do is check e-mail, look at pictures of the grand kids and keep her MySpace page updated, you get the question thrown back..."why so many different ones? Are they all different?"
Second item...pick one desktop. GNOME, KDE...whatever. Just pick one.
Third item...attitude of Linux supporters. Stop being so darn elitist! You want people to use it, then be friendly about it. The best way to turn someone off to Linux is to come off sounding like a zealot or an extremist.
It comes down to this summary: Windows users are not used to choice, thus, don't give them any. Market linux to them as more secure. Be honest about some devices not working, explaining that the Microsoft marketing machine is simply more powerful, but Linux will get there someday. We should be able to point the average Windows user to "Linux", a single cohesive product.
For the now, it is a religious battle by a bunch of zealous extremists. Get off your high horses and get to the business of taking over the world first...then argue about which distro was better.
"Has Rockstar gotten a better balance between draconian DRM and fair copy protection here?"
No. The fact that any sort of DRM that requires access to some other device out on the interwebz when you install it means that someday when Rockstar gets bought/sued out of existence, you might be able to install the game ever again. Until, that is, someone releases a crack for the scheme.
I have games from my DOS days that I can still freely install. THAT is software freedom. Anything less is not.
I would say that os x is not the right os for a server in general.
Strip away the graphical UI, clean up the hard drive space it consumes and run it solely as a command-line and it could be.
In the USA, we are supposedly innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Thus, you can claim you are falsely accused up to the point where a judge banks the gavel and declares you guilty.
At least, that is what my elementary school teacher taught me back in the 70's.
No, srsly. Good by, Lively. Of all Google betas, this one has stinker written on it from the start. I have a reasonably fast PC, memory and internet connection, and Lively was a dog! A one-legged dog trying to run in the 100 yd dash.
Maybe instead of a multi-user interactive world, they can turn search results into 3D experience. You enter your search term and a cloud of results appear. You move about, click on a result to see the page, or click on it to get a different set of search results. Efficient? No. High Eye-Candy factor? Yes.
Does this mean that AMD chips are now competitive on price-performance with Intel's? I mean for a fairly high-end desktop or server; obviously different considerations apply in the embedded or netbook market.
What apps are you running? Do your apps take advantage of multiple cores (regardless of the speed) or risk pushing 17.6GB/sec of memory bandwidth? Then go for the new AMD or Intel CPU, as they are both stupid fast. If not, then you might be better served with a previous gen CPU at a much lower price.
I mean, really, we are talking about very small differences in speed at this point, right? Would the average person actually be able to detect the difference? I am all for ever faster processors, as it allows us to run ever more complex software, but I don't think either processor is a loser, so you would be good to go with either one.
Add in good quality components to match like SATA/300 drives and loads of memory to actually realize all of that speed.
I could build a setup that would be way more powerful and less costly and more storage for way less.
What kind of drugs are these people on? two TB for 10K ???? ARE YOU NUTS SUN????
I could probably build this using SSD for less. SHEESH
Promise VTrack 16-drive array...$4,500
(16) Seagate 1TB SATA300 @ $130 each...$2,080
$6,580 for 16TB of disk space connected to one server.
Then you install OpenSolaris and install ZFS.