Dude, I'd fuckin' love to be able to./configure, make and make install.,,
But the linker that came on my OSX Dev Tools CD-ROM has let NOTHING past it. I tried compiling Postfix to replace sendmail, php4.0.5 to replace php 3.x and apache 1.3.19.
As a result, my mail doesn't work anymore and apache doesn't work anymore.
I was less than thrilled. Right now the ball is back in apple's court and I'm back to being a page surfer. I am pissed...
A php script can read files on the server (or submitted by the client,) massage them into the appropriate format.
If you use XML you can really go to town on the data, and ignore what you don't need, generate a PDF (or HTML with XSLT but that's less transportable and controling page formatting is more explicit [you'll have to do that work yourself.])
The client web browser can then load the HTML or the PDF and use Acrobat to view & print to their heart's content.
There is nothing you can write in Smalltalk that can't be written in a hundred other languages and about a hundred times more slowly.
I've written code in Ada, Basic (yes, I was young once and developped payroll systems for municipalities in Quebec on Wang 2200 minis [What's an OS?:-]) C, C++, COBOL, Forth, Fortran, HTML (& XML, XLST,) Java, JavaScript, Lisp, Pascal, Perl, php3 & 4, PL/I, Prolog, SetL and since 1987, I have used Smalltalk almost exclusively because in terms of reflexivity, productivity and expressiveness, Smalltalk RULEZ D00DZ.
Its NOT perfect, contained objects don't know about their containers unless you make the reference explicit and the it doesn't understand squat about instantiation in context (using a schema,) but its light years ahead of the rest.
Uber Smalltalkerz hack the VM and code BELOW the metal.
Instead of screaming at 'em lets educate 'em.
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The article was pretty uninformed but some of the points were valid. You CAN definitly (mis-) configure your OS X box to be as open as a two-dollar whore.
The point is that it doesn't ship that way and you don't know that unless you buy one and install it yourself. I am not sure that author had.
Without root, ssh, anonymous FTP, sendmail or the Developers toolkit (no compiler,) the box is as safe as you can get without pulling the plug.
If ever there was a case for an industry having the financial and information resources, the expertise and the need to use expert systems.
Instead we get ignorant kids (they can't help it, they're kids, they literally don't know any better yet,) answering the line as a form of punishment detail for as near minimum wage as firms can pay.
The last time an expert system was used properly for support on a complex problem in this industry was XCON the RC1 based expert system for configuring DEC Vax'es.
Not a trivial problem and one which would have destroyed DEC in the early eighties if they hadn't solved it.
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A lot of Mac end-users won't enable root or ssh or anonymous FTP. Not that many will install the developper's tools. Ergo, no compiler...
The early adopters will of course until the novelty wears off (myself included.)
No need to... That gets rid of a lot of potential damage and potential for mischief.
All Macs come with sound input and in OS 9 they have already had multiple users and voice authentication (a few kilobytes of streaming audio as a password, not just a few crackable bytes. And telling someone the phrase doesn't help 'em get into the box. It has to be the guy whose voice recorded it on the rig that was used to record it. You have to be there and be the one.)
Passwords for security is a reflection of the boxe's limitations not the system's capabilities. Non-Apple boxes are probably far more at risk than Apple's boxes. Not to mention, there may not be ssh, there may not be root, there may not be a compiler, there may not be sendmail, there may not be FTP. Thats' a very small target to hit and not much stick to hit the 'pinata' with.
And nobody write viruses for Apple because its a 'lame box' for grannys and hippy-loser-types that "3l33t3 h4x0r5" spit on. Some times its good to be the underdog.:-)
I work for a financial firm and their client banks who handle trillions of dollars per year and its ALL in encrypted traffic. Some transfers are small and some transfers are hundred's of megabytes in length.
There is no way that ANY AA has the clout to make my employer or its clients hand over any keys. Fugged aboud id!
The AAs come to the banks for money, not the othe way around, and if they step on the bankers' toes, they'll disappear like McCarthy did when he went after the army. Forgotten but not gone.
Their objection to the on-line publication is about as valid as would be their objection to the use of a photocopier. A dirty thumb-print on a poor photocopy can be just as disastrous.
Digital media is inherently more reproducible WITHOUT error.
Find a better excuse. Greed makes for bad science and secrets for the sake of secrets.
That costs us all.
The worst part is that what it costs can't even be properly quantified. It inherently falls outside the realm of the quantifiable. Sort of the application of the generalized uncertainty principle in real-life.
Apple is going to repeat its feat of becoming the largest shipper of RISC boxes with the introduction of the PPC by becoming the largest shipper of Unix systems with the introduction of OS X.
I can report that Smalltalk it the best computer language out there despite its only flaw (contained objects don't know about their containers unless you create an explicit link back to the container. That makes instantiation in context more complicated.)
It consists of a few fundamental rules, ruthlessly applied and a huge library of functional objects.
I have done things in Smalltalk that are years ahead of what I accomplished in previous languages (C, COBOL, PL/I, APL, BASIC etc.) because the environment is reflexive and additions are interactive.
Its not that I couldn't have done all this, even in assembler, but that I'd still be scratching out code and waiting on compile-links. With the Smalltalk IDE it was there waiting for me to use it and to build on it.
The closer other languages and IDEs get to where Smalltalk was (because its a moving target,) the better Smalltalk looks.
I think its both frightening and exhiliratiing that you can't hope to get away with anything anymore unless you live in some podunk town at the far end of the road from the rail depot..
Its not even surveillance anymore... The ubiquity of tracking that gives us both security and takes away our freedom to be victims.
Don't do anything you're ashamed of and don't be ashamed of anything you do.
While a binary is easy to install, your download should also include the source.
If for some reason you don't want to make the code, don't. (Don't know how, don't care to. don't think is a hole, that cool.)
But if you're the least concerned about security or just run on a different platform, you should be able to examine (and possibly tweak,) and then compile the code to check if it matches the binary so you're sure of what you've got..
But don't expect me to fly in 'em (Or sail in any of their battleships.)
M$ is a terrorists's best friend.
Closed hardware, closed software and an inferior crash-prone attitude where your life is acceptable colateral damage. I see very little difference between the regard for others as evidenced by either Bill Gates and his crew and Tim McVeigh and his clique and Sadam Hussein and his rabble and...
The vultures of history are unfortunately replete to satiation with the carrion such disdain for others engenders.
I pity his kids when they try to get any allowance of the ol' man.
I find it amusing that they are trying what history has shown has always failed: Balkanization. It didn't work for Metternick and it won't work for Gates.
They are still attempting to lock-in their user base.
If that had worked we'd all still be using the length of the king's thumb (le pouce) to measure lengths of cloth, using different sized wax cylinders to make recordings and forget about power utilities: AC vs. DC and a bazillion different voltages would insure that there was no such thing as an electronic industry.
There is a thriving film and camera industry because T.A. Edison held his thumb and fore-finger 35 milimeters apart when asked how big film should be and everybody made that a standard and followed it.
That's not to say that there aren't other film formats: 120mm, 70mm, 140mm.
But 35mm and the SLR hand-held are overwhelmingly accepted for a host of uss because the form fits humans and that's all there is to it.
MP3s being denied to consumers because its inconvenient for M$. Please, that approach's about as smart as left-handed monkey wrenches.
MP3 is not the ultimate format, but, like T.A.E. finger-width, its a good base, until some plutocrat decides to try to deprive consumers of what they want.
Now is there any doubt left that Bill Gates and the other playground bullies just want your money and don't give a crap about you and would leave your broken bodies by the side of the road as they walk away with your wallet from the scene of the crime?
All of our digital archives are deteriorating at a rate unparalled since the introduction of acid-based paper.
If its not the medium (read an 8" diskette lately? How about a 14" 5MB cartridge? How about a reel of mag tape?) its the software (M$ Word documents formats were deliberately sabotaged to force people to migrate to the newer versions. [I don't know anyone who actually needed M$ Word '97 until they found that they had to upgrade when M$'s biggest clients who'd got their copies for dirt.])
There will be thousand year old documents and last week's flimsies and nothing in between. Just an Orwellian silent testimony to greed and obsolence planned and otherwise.
But that said. have we said or written down anything worth keeping?
Sorry but security based on 'things you know' is fundamentally an oximoron.
At best it causes irksome delay in getting at your info but it really doesn't stop anyone who wants in from getting in. Like the Beatles sang about on the very first "telstar" broadcast: "There's nothing you know that can't be known"
Security based on biometric characteristics of a large sample of sound of you saying a phrase containing certain words or a live camera image is the only way to go.
And that's going to require 64 bit hardware everywhere (M$ ain't playing there either.:-)
It used to be "Nobody ever got fired for buying IBM" Then came the cheaper clones and M$ and "Nobody ever got fired for saving money" Now comes the even cheaper clones with Linux and its "Nobody ever got fired for lowering their TCO."
By "inputting data... or engaging in any other form of communication with or through the Passport Web Site" -- or any of its "associated services" -- you grant Microsoft the rights to "use, modify, copy, distribute, transmit, publicly display, publicly perform, reproduce, publish, sublicense, create derivative works from, transfer, or sell any such communication"
That's like the phone company claiming the profits to a stock transaction that was called in.
They haven't officially said they're abandoning it but their resources are stretched with OS X install problems and NOBODY has any friggin experience with it.
Maybe they don't want to commit to anything one way or another because they can't. For the moment, boot into 9.1 and grumble and keep writing that you want it.
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Dude, I'd fuckin' love to be able to ./configure, make and make install.,,
But the linker that came on my OSX Dev Tools CD-ROM has let NOTHING past it. I tried compiling Postfix to replace sendmail, php4.0.5 to replace php 3.x and apache 1.3.19.
As a result, my mail doesn't work anymore and apache doesn't work anymore.
I was less than thrilled. Right now the ball is back in apple's court and I'm back to being a page surfer. I am pissed...
The only thing the ugly ho'll ever swallow is your credit card. Nobody uses M$ stuff for anything mission-critical anyway. Just office apps.
I don't know anybody who's had a choice who has actually gone further than NT 4. sp 4.
M$ has nothing on 64 bit+ platforms. That's all Unix($)/Linux(0$) already. and that's where we're all going.
Passwords are spookable, Your face and/or your voice uttering a phrase is a lot harder to spoof.
32 bits is fine until you take biometric security into consideration. Then 32 bits just isn't enough. And then you're M$ free.
A php script can read files on the server (or submitted by the client,) massage them into the appropriate format.
If you use XML you can really go to town on the data, and ignore what you don't need, generate a PDF (or HTML with XSLT but that's less transportable and controling page formatting is more explicit [you'll have to do that work yourself.])
The client web browser can then load the HTML or the PDF and use Acrobat to view & print to their heart's content.
What can I say?
:-]) C, C++, COBOL, Forth, Fortran, HTML (& XML, XLST,) Java, JavaScript, Lisp, Pascal, Perl, php3 & 4, PL/I, Prolog, SetL and since 1987, I have used Smalltalk almost exclusively because in terms of reflexivity, productivity and expressiveness, Smalltalk RULEZ D00DZ.
There is nothing you can write in Smalltalk that can't be written in a hundred other languages and about a hundred times more slowly.
I've written code in Ada, Basic (yes, I was young once and developped payroll systems for municipalities in Quebec on Wang 2200 minis [What's an OS?
Its NOT perfect, contained objects don't know about their containers unless you make the reference explicit and the it doesn't understand squat about instantiation in context (using a schema,) but its light years ahead of the rest.
Uber Smalltalkerz hack the VM and code BELOW the metal.
The article was pretty uninformed but some of the points were valid. You CAN definitly (mis-) configure your OS X box to be as open as a two-dollar whore.
The point is that it doesn't ship that way and you don't know that unless you buy one and install it yourself. I am not sure that author had.
Without root, ssh, anonymous FTP, sendmail or the Developers toolkit (no compiler,) the box is as safe as you can get without pulling the plug.
If ever there was a case for an industry having the financial and information resources, the expertise and the need to use expert systems.
Instead we get ignorant kids (they can't help it, they're kids, they literally don't know any better yet,) answering the line as a form of punishment detail for as near minimum wage as firms can pay.
The last time an expert system was used properly for support on a complex problem in this industry was XCON the RC1 based expert system for configuring DEC Vax'es.
Not a trivial problem and one which would have destroyed DEC in the early eighties if they hadn't solved it.
A lot of Mac end-users won't enable root or ssh or anonymous FTP. Not that many will install the developper's tools. Ergo, no compiler...
:-)
The early adopters will of course until the novelty wears off (myself included.)
No need to... That gets rid of a lot of potential damage and potential for mischief.
All Macs come with sound input and in OS 9 they have already had multiple users and voice authentication (a few kilobytes of streaming audio as a password, not just a few crackable bytes. And telling someone the phrase doesn't help 'em get into the box. It has to be the guy whose voice recorded it on the rig that was used to record it. You have to be there and be the one.)
Passwords for security is a reflection of the boxe's limitations not the system's capabilities. Non-Apple boxes are probably far more at risk than Apple's boxes. Not to mention, there may not be ssh, there may not be root, there may not be a compiler, there may not be sendmail, there may not be FTP. Thats' a very small target to hit and not much stick to hit the 'pinata' with.
And nobody write viruses for Apple because its a 'lame box' for grannys and hippy-loser-types that "3l33t3 h4x0r5" spit on. Some times its good to be the underdog.
I work for a financial firm and their client banks who handle trillions of dollars per year and its ALL in encrypted traffic. Some transfers are small and some transfers are hundred's of megabytes in length.
There is no way that ANY AA has the clout to make my employer or its clients hand over any keys. Fugged aboud id!
The AAs come to the banks for money, not the othe way around, and if they step on the bankers' toes, they'll disappear like McCarthy did when he went after the army. Forgotten but not gone.
Their objection to the on-line publication is about as valid as would be their objection to the use of a photocopier. A dirty thumb-print on a poor photocopy can be just as disastrous.
Digital media is inherently more reproducible WITHOUT error.
Find a better excuse. Greed makes for bad science and secrets for the sake of secrets.
That costs us all.
The worst part is that what it costs can't even be properly quantified. It inherently falls outside the realm of the quantifiable. Sort of the application of the generalized uncertainty principle in real-life.
Apple is going to repeat its feat of becoming the largest shipper of RISC boxes with the introduction of the PPC by becoming the largest shipper of Unix systems with the introduction of OS X.
Competition. Nah. Against who?
I can report that Smalltalk it the best computer language out there despite its only flaw (contained objects don't know about their containers unless you create an explicit link back to the container. That makes instantiation in context more complicated.)
It consists of a few fundamental rules, ruthlessly applied and a huge library of functional objects.
I have done things in Smalltalk that are years ahead of what I accomplished in previous languages (C, COBOL, PL/I, APL, BASIC etc.) because the environment is reflexive and additions are interactive.
Its not that I couldn't have done all this, even in assembler, but that I'd still be scratching out code and waiting on compile-links. With the Smalltalk IDE it was there waiting for me to use it and to build on it.
The closer other languages and IDEs get to where Smalltalk was (because its a moving target,) the better Smalltalk looks.
I think its both frightening and exhiliratiing that you can't hope to get away with anything anymore unless you live in some podunk town at the far end of the road from the rail depot..
Its not even surveillance anymore... The ubiquity of tracking that gives us both security and takes away our freedom to be victims.
Don't do anything you're ashamed of and don't be ashamed of anything you do.
While a binary is easy to install, your download should also include the source.
If for some reason you don't want to make the code, don't. (Don't know how, don't care to. don't think is a hole, that cool.)
But if you're the least concerned about security or just run on a different platform, you should be able to examine (and possibly tweak,) and then compile the code to check if it matches the binary so you're sure of what you've got..
But don't expect me to fly in 'em (Or sail in any of their battleships.)
M$ is a terrorists's best friend.
Closed hardware, closed software and an inferior crash-prone attitude where your life is acceptable colateral damage. I see very little difference between the regard for others as evidenced by either Bill Gates and his crew and Tim McVeigh and his clique and Sadam Hussein and his rabble and...
The vultures of history are unfortunately replete to satiation with the carrion such disdain for others engenders.
I pity his kids when they try to get any allowance of the ol' man.
I find it amusing that they are trying what history has shown has always failed: Balkanization. It didn't work for Metternick and it won't work for Gates.
They are still attempting to lock-in their user base.
If that had worked we'd all still be using the length of the king's thumb (le pouce) to measure lengths of cloth, using different sized wax cylinders to make recordings and forget about power utilities: AC vs. DC and a bazillion different voltages would insure that there was no such thing as an electronic industry.
There is a thriving film and camera industry because T.A. Edison held his thumb and fore-finger 35 milimeters apart when asked how big film should be and everybody made that a standard and followed it.
That's not to say that there aren't other film formats: 120mm, 70mm, 140mm.
But 35mm and the SLR hand-held are overwhelmingly accepted for a host of uss because the form fits humans and that's all there is to it.
MP3s being denied to consumers because its inconvenient for M$. Please, that approach's about as smart as left-handed monkey wrenches.
MP3 is not the ultimate format, but, like T.A.E. finger-width, its a good base, until some plutocrat decides to try to deprive consumers of what they want.
Now is there any doubt left that Bill Gates and the other playground bullies just want your money and don't give a crap about you and would leave your broken bodies by the side of the road as they walk away with your wallet from the scene of the crime?
All of our digital archives are deteriorating at a rate unparalled since the introduction of acid-based paper.
If its not the medium (read an 8" diskette lately? How about a 14" 5MB cartridge? How about a reel of mag tape?) its the software (M$ Word documents formats were deliberately sabotaged to force people to migrate to the newer versions. [I don't know anyone who actually needed M$ Word '97 until they found that they had to upgrade when M$'s biggest clients who'd got their copies for dirt.])
There will be thousand year old documents and last week's flimsies and nothing in between. Just an Orwellian silent testimony to greed and obsolence planned and otherwise.
But that said. have we said or written down anything worth keeping?
The problem with the failure oi diplomacy is that people die in extremely unplesant ways.
If you want the US (300M people) and China (+1,000M people) to slug it out, over an apology, may I suggest an orifice you should apply your lips to.
Sorry but security based on 'things you know' is fundamentally an oximoron.
:-)
At best it causes irksome delay in getting at your info but it really doesn't stop anyone who wants in from getting in. Like the Beatles sang about on the very first "telstar" broadcast: "There's nothing you know that can't be known"
Security based on biometric characteristics of a large sample of sound of you saying a phrase containing certain words or a live camera image is the only way to go.
And that's going to require 64 bit hardware everywhere (M$ ain't playing there either.
You can wait 'till July when OS X will be bundled or install it yourself.
The selection of games should be better by then too.
It used to be "Nobody ever got fired for buying IBM" Then came the cheaper clones and M$ and "Nobody ever got fired for saving money" Now comes the even cheaper clones with Linux and its "Nobody ever got fired for lowering their TCO."
By "inputting data ... or engaging in any other form of communication with or through the Passport Web Site" -- or any of its "associated services" -- you grant Microsoft the rights to "use, modify, copy, distribute, transmit, publicly display, publicly perform, reproduce, publish, sublicense, create derivative works from, transfer, or sell any such communication"
That's like the phone company claiming the profits to a stock transaction that was called in.
Either you're pulling a lame April fool's or you don't know physics. Either way dude...
Violence sell goods (guns & bullets) and services (medical and auto repair.) These are good for business.
Sexi s satisfaction and contentment. You can't sell contended people anything.
If their record keeping tracks the number of (re)installs, every Win'95 machine owner must owe about a million bucks by now.
They haven't officially said they're abandoning it but their resources are stretched with OS X install problems and NOBODY has any friggin experience with it.
Maybe they don't want to commit to anything one way or another because they can't. For the moment, boot into 9.1 and grumble and keep writing that you want it.