Date? I released "open source" software (yes I used that term) in the 80s myself, I'm sure others did the same thing not compatible with that definition long before that also..
I'm going that route too.. but I need something to replace Visio with.. or.. I need C++ reverse-engineering into nice diagrams.. while I guess Together works under Linux it's 10 times the cost of Visio.. (although Visio 2002 does a crap job at it.. )
Nice to hear you've installed Notes under Wine - last time I checked it was still recommended to move an existing installation:)
I like Notes.
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Eh no. Open source = source available for viewing. Closed source = it's not. Free beer is something else.
I recall hearing something about a so-called "civilized" country still using the death penalty these days.. lemme see.. hmm.. nope.. can't recall which.. it's quite well known though.. hmm..
No, the point was about reading both sides of a story and decide what sounds likely to be true. You just read one side of the story (from march this year, well before the attacks) and called everything in it blatant lies (which it's not, if you care to get some independent comments on it) - most likely because that's what your own biased news has told you:)
Do some searching regarding persons, politics and history on those three countries (even in that order, really) and then come back and retract your comment..:)
... how on earth you read into my post that I thought Aftonbladet was a good independent news-source escapes me:)
60+ % of the american population wanted to put arab-americans in camps, restricting their freedom of movement. That was featured in a Wolf Blitzer column, I can dig it up if you didn't see it. I stand by my comment about ignorant americans:)
half that article is about downplaying the number of casualties, or why it was it, or if it was really a hospital, or whether what the reports say are really true etc. That's my whole point - CNNs does that _all the time_..
.. hmm.. oki, you're on the right track here. I was making fun of the fact that americans seldom understand more than one language.. do a search on google for "schwitzerland" and you'll get a lot of pages where it's spelled wrong, the fun part being that the pages are from a lot of different countries. I should've included either links too google, or used my original thought. Whatever:) If you still think I can't spell, compare my posts to.. well.. most.. *g*
The problem starts when people ONLY read biased news, and don't know about it. CNN is a good example here - if you have access to other sources you trust, you probably know as well as I do that the current affairs in Afghanistan are _very_ US-centric reported by CNN. When others say there are confirmed reports about civilian casualities, CNN still claims there are no such reports etc.
There's a saying that americans are ignorant - can't point out Egypt on a map, don't know that Sweden and Schwitzerland aren't the same countries etc. With the risk of immideate "flamebait" moderation, I must confess that I agree with that view. Do a test sometime, and compare your knowledge (if you're american) about the world affairs with someone from Europe or Asia..
I think Slashdot, as a major Linux news outlet, has done TransGaming a great disservice by not posting an article about it, but that's a rant I don't want to get into
Bad usability.. Microsoft should really hire some HCI people. You _never_ ask people to "OK" (a positive thing) an error (a negative thing).. "no, it's not ok!"..
But I think that people in the US government probably lie less than in most other governments
Thanks, that was the laugh of the day over here:)
Ignorant, as I said.
(PS: I'm dropping the thread, as I said, you really don't _want_ to see the other side of the arguments. To finish off the discussion, bombing afghanistan will only _increase_ the terrorism attacks against the US.. ) However, seing the Bush administration _finally_ putting pressure on Israel is a step in the right direction.
Perhaps you were misinformed. That's the only non-insulting explanation I can think of. If you read this entire post and don't believe any of it then I'd be truely fasinated to hear your explanation. Don't forget to explain why anyone would go through all this effort against uninvolved parties.
Maybe for the same reason as in 1991? Oil. You _do_ know that Oil companies want to run pipelines over Afghanistan, right? That's public info (and no, I won't bother to link - you seem to know your way around search engines;)
You _do_ know why Saddam Hussein (the most likely culprit when it comes to the Anthrax-attacks) is still in charge in Iraq, right? You don't? Ok - well, if the US had killed him off, Iran would've moved in - and your government is _very_ afraid of an even bigger Iran. Blame your own government for the Anthrax deaths. While you're at it, blame them for the WTC attacks as well, you know, it _was_ the CIA who trained Osama bin Laden and gave him weapons to fight those nasty russians..
Yes, I could keep going - but there's no point. You don't _want_ to question your government and your media, which is plainfully obvious.
As a last note: I often find it amusing reading news about the bombings in Afghanistan on first aftonblandet.se (Sweden's biggest newspaper) and then cnn.com... while you se big headlines like "100 civilians killed in USA bombing, confirmed by AP reporter" in our headlines, CNN reports the same incident as "talibans claim civilians losses, no confirmation possible. American command dismisses claims".
But, of course, your government never lies. Ever. They've never done that. Of course. They really just want what's best for people everywhere. Yeah. They're not doing it to secure oil deliveries. Nope. Not at all.
Sigh. How does it feel to be so ignorant - really?
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Date? I released "open source" software (yes I used that term) in the 80s myself, I'm sure others did the same thing not compatible with that definition long before that also ..
Nice to hear you've installed Notes under Wine - last time I checked it was still recommended to move an existing installation
I like Notes.
Eh no. Open source = source available for viewing. Closed source = it's not. Free beer is something else.
"American invented information network" ... oh yes .. except HTTP .. and a few other "small" bits'n'pieces ofcourse .. :)
No, the point was about reading both sides of a story and decide what sounds likely to be true. You just read one side of the story (from march this year, well before the attacks) and called everything in it blatant lies (which it's not, if you care to get some independent comments on it) - most likely because that's what your own biased news has told you :)
Do some searching regarding persons, politics and history on those three countries (even in that order, really) and then come back and retract your comment .. :)
60+ % of the american population wanted to put arab-americans in camps, restricting their freedom of movement. That was featured in a Wolf Blitzer column, I can dig it up if you didn't see it. I stand by my comment about ignorant americans
... then maybe we should apply a moderation system to news-sources? Hard to work out in practice, but it would be _very_ democratic :)
Thanks for proving my point so elegently
Regarding the states in the US - if you want that granularity, then try naming a few "län" in Sweden?
Regarding education, I have two fine degrees in engineering thankyouverymuch
You not only completely failed to see the point in what I wrote, you also proved me right. Thanks.
If that makes you feel better, so be it then! I also spelled "casualties" wrong once too - shouldn't you point that out also? :)
half that article is about downplaying the number of casualties, or why it was it, or if it was really a hospital, or whether what the reports say are really true etc. That's my whole point - CNNs does that _all the time_ ..
.. hmm .. oki, you're on the right track here. I was making fun of the fact that americans seldom understand more than one language .. do a search on google for "schwitzerland" and you'll get a lot of pages where it's spelled wrong, the fun part being that the pages are from a lot of different countries. I should've included either links too google, or used my original thought. Whatever :) If you still think I can't spell, compare my posts to .. well .. most .. *g*
.. and _who_ would you want to trust doing that?
Before you answer, read this
ahh, first one to spot the pun. I was thinking about Schweden and Switzerland first, but that one's too easy. I hope you understand why ..
I don't have time to educate all the ignorant americans in the world. Open your eyes.
The problem starts when people ONLY read biased news, and don't know about it. CNN is a good example here - if you have access to other sources you trust, you probably know as well as I do that the current affairs in Afghanistan are _very_ US-centric reported by CNN. When others say there are confirmed reports about civilian casualities, CNN still claims there are no such reports etc.
There's a saying that americans are ignorant - can't point out Egypt on a map, don't know that Sweden and Schwitzerland aren't the same countries etc. With the risk of immideate "flamebait" moderation, I must confess that I agree with that view. Do a test sometime, and compare your knowledge (if you're american) about the world affairs with someone from Europe or Asia
Compare today's launches/cost etc to the 70s
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... which is a duplicate story of
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I see why you don't want a rant, you'd lose
Bad usability .. Microsoft should really hire some HCI people. You _never_ ask people to "OK" (a positive thing) an error (a negative thing) .. "no, it's not ok!" ..
Thanks, that was the laugh of the day over here
Ignorant, as I said.
(PS: I'm dropping the thread, as I said, you really don't _want_ to see the other side of the arguments. To finish off the discussion, bombing afghanistan will only _increase_ the terrorism attacks against the US
Maybe for the same reason as in 1991? Oil. You _do_ know that Oil companies want to run pipelines over Afghanistan, right? That's public info (and no, I won't bother to link - you seem to know your way around search engines
You _do_ know why Saddam Hussein (the most likely culprit when it comes to the Anthrax-attacks) is still in charge in Iraq, right? You don't? Ok - well, if the US had killed him off, Iran would've moved in - and your government is _very_ afraid of an even bigger Iran. Blame your own government for the Anthrax deaths. While you're at it, blame them for the WTC attacks as well, you know, it _was_ the CIA who trained Osama bin Laden and gave him weapons to fight those nasty russians
Yes, I could keep going - but there's no point. You don't _want_ to question your government and your media, which is plainfully obvious.
As a last note: I often find it amusing reading news about the bombings in Afghanistan on first aftonblandet.se (Sweden's biggest newspaper) and then cnn.com
But, of course, your government never lies. Ever. They've never done that. Of course. They really just want what's best for people everywhere. Yeah. They're not doing it to secure oil deliveries. Nope. Not at all.
Sigh. How does it feel to be so ignorant - really?
That means we can all run Anti-Terrorist programs on our computers. NAI will _love_ those headlines ...