Gee.. here you get a +5 for repeating what I wrote in the last few threads on this, whereas I didn't get anything;) Oh well...
Jon Johansen is not the person who rev. eng'd CSS auth, something that no one seems to care about (at least not the DVD-CAA and MPAA:)
The person(s) who did are indeed very silent, and will of course stay that way. Anonymous source postings through an anonymizer should hold up quite well as an un-nameable source for CSS info... (not saying it was done that way, not saying otherwise either)
If Norwegian law is anything like Swedish law, they'll have a hard time convicting him, and I have a feeling that is what will happen. They could probably have nailed him if he had made a tool to decrypt things that could be questioned if you own (i.e, decrypting satellite channels you haven't paid for) - but there's no question about it that you do own the encrypted contents on the actual DVD...
You don't need to tell me that - but seriously. Altair/Vic-20/Atari/Amiga would never had created today's society on their own. The PC-clones were and are needed still today...
... since DeCSS (or the real work behind the scenes, like actually reverse engineering CSS... DeCSS is just one application of that) was NOT constructed in the USA.
News for most americans: The rest of the world don't care about your laws.
Now when this is settled, let's talk about making this mirroring scheme more efficient. I'm talking spam. I'm talking buying the service of one of these hated spammers that ever so often sends you a nice pricelist of how many millions you can reach buy just paying $100, $200 or whatever the going rate is...
I want to see the MPAA going after each and every single ISP, mailserver and end user receiving an email containing the CSS source. You know, those 3 millions or so...
Thing is, if what's-their-name had just encrypted their key in the first place, this crack never would have appeared
Huh? If Xing had encrypted their key, it would had taken just a few more minutes. Eventually, the key would had to be decoded inside the computer's memory to be able to use it, and then you could extract it...
DVDs are copyrighted, you have NO right to make any copies of it EVEN for your own private use
Why lie on a public forum?
You want to come home to my place and see me make a perfectly legal copy of a DVD? (Without using DeCSS even...) Feel free to bring a few MPAA lawyers with you.
But I agree, Epoc is an incredibly good operating system for handheld computers and smartphones. It will be interesting to see Linux competing in this arena.
I'm _so_ tired of these idiotic moderator's marking everything as flamebait. The post I replied to, and the direct reply to mine, are both clueluess. I happen to _know_ what I'm writing about, I wouldn't post otherwise.
Flamebait my *ss - it's called "insightful" when you share true knowledge you know...
Signed up for it too, no news as of yet. Wonder if the interest was too low, or if they're just gaining support. (If I recall correctly, their web page looked kinda lame and it could all just have been a big hoax.. )
DeCSS is used to rip lots of DVDs every day, other programs then re-encode these into VCD format, and k00l traders then put these VCDs on more sites all over the world than you can count...
According to a mail to a discussion list set up to talk about The Code Book challenge, a TV channel in the UK spelled out the hidden words in a national broadcast.
Really not that much of a challenge left...
Original mail:
This list thinks it's got spoiler problems, but spare a thought for poor old GCHQ, who went to the trouble of setting up their website with five hidden words in it that when discovered give candidates an entree to a job at the establishment, but whose efforts were wasted this morning when the answer was spelled out verbatim on national T.V.
Full drivers for the Matrox range of cards is one of the things that could make me switch from Windows to Linux!
I couldn't make out from the information if this would include support for capturing with the Marvel and RR-G cards. Matrox cards are performing capturing extremely well, and it would be a great benefit for both Matrox and the Linux community if this would be the case.
Epoc (Psion, Symbian) is a _lot_ better than PalmOS though - without the negative effects of WinCE.
In Europe, the Psion Revo wins award after award after award. It's basically around the same size as a Palm V, but with a usable keyobard and a lot more useful software.
Linux on PDAs will be interesting, but I think it will take a lot of time to make it run as good on that kind of hardware compared to dedicated handeld-OS's.
They don't have to be analog compatible for your DVD collection to be useful, but your player might need an upgrade to export the content in a digital format - or you would indeed need a new player. Point is, nothing on the discs is analogue.
Does anyone think the DVD collections some of us are building up now will be rendered obsolete so quickly?
Why should they? DVD content is stored as 24fps film, it's the player that then translates that to 29.97 NTSC. The actual DVDs won't need to be replaced, but they player might need an upgrade or two. (Depending on how well a DTV system will accept SVideo input)
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Jon Johansen is not the person who rev. eng'd CSS auth, something that no one seems to care about (at least not the DVD-CAA and MPAA :)
The person(s) who did are indeed very silent, and will of course stay that way. Anonymous source postings through an anonymizer should hold up quite well as an un-nameable source for CSS info ... (not saying it was done that way, not saying otherwise either)
If Norwegian law is anything like Swedish law, they'll have a hard time convicting him, and I have a feeling that is what will happen. They could probably have nailed him if he had made a tool to decrypt things that could be questioned if you own (i.e, decrypting satellite channels you haven't paid for) - but there's no question about it that you do own the encrypted contents on the actual DVD ...
It seems everyone thinks Jon Johansen is the person who reverse engineered *whatever* to get hold of the CSS algorithm??
Interesting, but not true. Relevant for the case?
I expect Symbian to change all that though :)
News for most americans: The rest of the world don't care about your laws.
Now when this is settled, let's talk about making this mirroring scheme more efficient. I'm talking spam. I'm talking buying the service of one of these hated spammers that ever so often sends you a nice pricelist of how many millions you can reach buy just paying $100, $200 or whatever the going rate is ...
I want to see the MPAA going after each and every single ISP, mailserver and end user receiving an email containing the CSS source. You know, those 3 millions or so ...
Huh? If Xing had encrypted their key, it would had taken just a few more minutes. Eventually, the key would had to be decoded inside the computer's memory to be able to use it, and then you could extract it ...
Why lie on a public forum?
You want to come home to my place and see me make a perfectly legal copy of a DVD? (Without using DeCSS even ...) Feel free to bring a few MPAA lawyers with you.
Oh yes, I live in Sweden btw.
But I agree, Epoc is an incredibly good operating system for handheld computers and smartphones. It will be interesting to see Linux competing in this arena.
Flamebait my *ss - it's called "insightful" when you share true knowledge you know ...
Look here
DeCSS is used to rip lots of DVDs every day, other programs then re-encode these into VCD format, and k00l traders then put these VCDs on more sites all over the world than you can count ...
Some claim the quality is crap, some claim they're great.
I'll keep my high end Sony DVD player, even though it doesn't play SVCD and mp3 cd.
Really not that much of a challenge left ...
Original mail:
This list thinks it's got spoiler problems, but spare a thought for poor old GCHQ, who went to the trouble of setting up their website with five hidden words in it that when discovered give candidates an entree to a job at the establishment, but whose efforts were wasted this morning when the answer was spelled out verbatim on national T.V.
Beat that.
Futurem.
Thanks to DeCSS and Matrox, together ;)
I couldn't make out from the information if this would include support for capturing with the Marvel and RR-G cards. Matrox cards are performing capturing extremely well, and it would be a great benefit for both Matrox and the Linux community if this would be the case.
Well done Matrox!
In Europe, the Psion Revo wins award after award after award. It's basically around the same size as a Palm V, but with a usable keyobard and a lot more useful software.
Linux on PDAs will be interesting, but I think it will take a lot of time to make it run as good on that kind of hardware compared to dedicated handeld-OS's.
It's nice to have 74 minutes of 5.1 music per disc, playable in the living room.
Uh, there's a thing called Epoc you know, and a lot of Geeks use it, so why not port it?
Yummy!
They don't have to be analog compatible for your DVD collection to be useful, but your player might need an upgrade to export the content in a digital format - or you would indeed need a new player. Point is, nothing on the discs is analogue.
Region 2 ("PAL") DVDs are 720*576 BTW, still at 24 fps, so you get a higher resolution image from those.
Why should they? DVD content is stored as 24fps film, it's the player that then translates that to 29.97 NTSC. The actual DVDs won't need to be replaced, but they player might need an upgrade or two. (Depending on how well a DTV system will accept SVideo input)