I just happened to think: Do you suppose it would be possible to refactor the Windows graph to make it look less tangled, or refactor the Linux graph to make it look more tangled? Imagine the graphs in 3-D space and being able to rotate around them or even view them from inside looking out in different directions. The concept is similar to adjusting the axes in the same manner as logarithmic paper can make some plots look like straight lines (once that concept is recognized then the math can become infinitely complex for defining the axes).
To be perfectly fair: How do we know that the researcher who created the graphs optimized both for clean and concise 2-D layout?
In response to my own question: No matter how you want to change the visualization the Linux graph looks to have far fewer multiple source intersection points and a larger prevalence of straight line heirarchical structure.
Please allow me to be the first to say... OMG NICE!!! That picture is so applicable for every discussion in which MS advocates have tried to ride down (troll) Linux advocates as nothing but mere fanbois.
And, remarkably, the fortune cookie on the bottom of the page is...
"Patience is the best remedy for every trouble. -- Titus Maccius Plautus"
We have now been remedied from MS advocacy trolls. Many thanks to SANA for those pics and Steinnon for the blog entry.
Nobody needs anything. We could all exist on two peanut butter and jelly sandwiches per day. Anything above that is fluff. I'm sure there's plenty of fluff in your life.
> DIDN'T hire someone who smoked pot
On what do you base this opinion? I'll be happy to point out your logical faults all day long.
> The police already have access to the information through the 911 emergency systems
I can't hold back...
> which are controlled by the police in case you didn't know
Oh God, I'm so bored that I'm beginning to say my fourth chaplet of the day (that's a full rosary)...
> so they don't need to ask anyone
Every single cell phone call relayed through a satellite counts as an international transmission and is eligible for government surveillance. Even if you manage to post to Slashdot through only American servers the moment someone in Canada reads your post it becomes an international transmission and is eligible for government surveillance.
Forget the media dog'n'pony show complete with rank'n'file excuses and canned questions. Fact: The US Federal Government is out of control. Fact: They can justify anything they want at any time. Fact: If you notice it you will either be sent on a 5150 as "paranoid", shipped off to Gitmo, or you will meet a brick wall of denial.
Fact: The only economically viable solution is complete and utter dismantling of the Federal Government. Failure to do so will inevitably result in pi55ing off someone who _is_ crazy enough to start a real war or execute a series, not just one, but a whole string of 9/11 style strategic attacks.
> are decent people trying to do a job. They're not power-mad little dictators
Any decent person trying to do an impossible job in order to make performance goals with a house payment and three hungry children to feed can and will act in the same manner as a power mad little dictator when properly stressed.
Which is why the federal debt, the Federal Reserve, and taxes are so important. Puppets on strings and debt is stress.
Nobody is going to shoot you in your sleep comrade. Once we know which brand of corn you buy we will work with your employer and your grocery store to adjust your income and the price carefully to bleed you dry just like any other nine volt battery.
If you've ever worked in the government or for a government contractor you would know that those are the people who have the most time to sit around, with nothing else to do, and play with such things as creating an exploit out of the hole.
The only other demographic which has as much "boredom time" are homeless people, teenagers, and extravagantly wealthy people. Homeless people don't have the access (per capita, probability), teenagers don't have the knowledge or the social connections (per capita, probability), and we already know that extravagantly wealthy people are associated with (usually pulling the strings on) the politicians and the federal agencies/contractors.
All of them, plus the relevant libraries of the respective states, plus the libraries of the respective counties, plus the libraries of the relevant cities, plus the libraries of the relevant municipalities, plus the libraries of the relevant precincts.
> so anything said against Vista will be modded "Insightful" without the barest show of proof?
It's a logical conclusion--not only is it "a" logical conclusion but it is the most probable conclusion. The people with the strongest backgrounds in computer security, working for Microsoft, will be associated with other people with the strongest backgrounds in computer security. Those with the strongest backgrounds in computer security are most likely to be associated with governmental agencies, and in possession of the necessary security clearances, which allow them to work there.
Thus, those who know the most deeply buried exploits for Windows Vista (especially the exploits which may even be specific to particular hardware) are in the social circles which are closest to organizations such as the NSA.
It's all very statistical and it makes perfect sense. The only possible defeat would be if Vista had no security exploits and we don't need to cite any links to know that is false.
Which, if the media would start telling the truth, only really applies to actions taken by the Federal Government. If we'd be following the Constitution, as it was written, the States are free to fine-tune things as they see fit.
> the people should control them
That was my assertion as well. I apologize if the sentence logic was tangled.
I don't know why the mods knocked the post down to -1:Flamebait. Apparently they haven't been paying attention to their political studies.
The US is on a crash course to pi55 someone off royally and start a world war. How many paramilitary groups, which are in fundamental conflict with each other (not to mention all the others around the globe), does our own government fund using our taxpayer dollars?
This isn't rocket science. This is basic (primative) human behavior and no amount of CNN sugar coating can change it.
I always assert that the rest is pre-empted by choice of the definition of the word "crime". We don't have too many criminals. We have too many laws.
If we could refine our system of laws then, in instances such as this story, the appropriate use of power wouldn't be questionable because there'd be no excuse to abuse it in other more borderline situations.
Yeah. We tried to warn cell phone users about that. Most of them couldn't see past the "Ooh! Aah! New nifty social status gadget!" mentality.
> they're all terrorists anyway
Every single cell phone call relayed through a satellite counts as an international transmission and is eligible for government surveillance.
Even if you manage to post to Slashdot through only American servers the moment someone in Canada reads your post it becomes an international transmission and is eligible for government surveillance.
Forget the media dog'n'pony show complete with rank'n'file excuses and canned questions. Fact: The US Federal Government is out of control. Fact: They can justify anything they want at any time. Fact: If you notice it you will either be sent on a 5150 as "paranoid", shipped off to Gitmo, or you will meet a brick wall of denial.
Fact: The only economically viable solution is complete and utter dismantling of the Federal Government. Failure to do so will inevitably result in pi55ing off someone who _is_ crazy enough to start a real war or execute a series, not just one, but a whole string of 9/11 style strategic attacks.
When the legal code in the US fills entire floors of a stadium sized library how in the world can ignorance not be an excuse? There isn't a single person in the nation who knows all of the laws.
We do not have too many criminals. We have too many laws.
That is a beautiful statement of the common public misconception (which is often well groomed by government whining).
This isn't about seeing the police side of this. This is about the legitimate derivation of power within a Constitutional Republic. History is filled with dire examples of why it is best for the citizenry to disallow authority for the sake of political or legal ease. At the same time there are no lighthouse examples of why a well controlled government would be a Bad Thing.
Does the judge, or any members of his family, own stock in the company which produces the shoot-and-tag GPS tracking guns?
Big brother issues are definitely a concern in this case. More and more of the population seems to be willing to allow themselves to be profiled to death, though, so there really aren't any arguments left which would make any sort of difference.
Other than "ulterior motive" and "big brother", there really isn't much else to talk about except the weather.
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I just happened to think: Do you suppose it would be possible to refactor the Windows graph to make it look less tangled, or refactor the Linux graph to make it look more tangled? Imagine the graphs in 3-D space and being able to rotate around them or even view them from inside looking out in different directions. The concept is similar to adjusting the axes in the same manner as logarithmic paper can make some plots look like straight lines (once that concept is recognized then the math can become infinitely complex for defining the axes).
To be perfectly fair: How do we know that the researcher who created the graphs optimized both for clean and concise 2-D layout?
In response to my own question: No matter how you want to change the visualization the Linux graph looks to have far fewer multiple source intersection points and a larger prevalence of straight line heirarchical structure.
Please allow me to be the first to say... OMG NICE!!! That picture is so applicable for every discussion in which MS advocates have tried to ride down (troll) Linux advocates as nothing but mere fanbois.
And, remarkably, the fortune cookie on the bottom of the page is...
"Patience is the best remedy for every trouble. -- Titus Maccius Plautus"
We have now been remedied from MS advocacy trolls. Many thanks to SANA for those pics and Steinnon for the blog entry.
Maybe you should read this and then get back to me when you've managed to remove your knee from the back of your throat.
Maybe you should read this and then get back to me when you've managed to remove your knee from the back of your throat.
> if you need
Nobody needs anything. We could all exist on two peanut butter and jelly sandwiches per day. Anything above that is fluff. I'm sure there's plenty of fluff in your life.
> DIDN'T hire someone who smoked pot
On what do you base this opinion? I'll be happy to point out your logical faults all day long.
> 'nuff said
About what?
> beyond years and years of bruteforce processing
Or a really big botnet.
Duh.
> show me the backdoor
If I did then I would be required, by law and my duty to my country, to kill you.
> this isn't logic
Seven steps to know anyone. It's mathematical fact and, given the effects which the demographics have on the math, it is the most probable conclusion.
> You cell phone already has a GPS in it
I'm so tempted to do this again...
> The police already have access to the information through the 911 emergency systems
I can't hold back...
> which are controlled by the police in case you didn't know
Oh God, I'm so bored that I'm beginning to say my fourth chaplet of the day (that's a full rosary)...
> so they don't need to ask anyone
Every single cell phone call relayed through a satellite counts as an international transmission and is eligible for government surveillance. Even if you manage to post to Slashdot through only American servers the moment someone in Canada reads your post it becomes an international transmission and is eligible for government surveillance.
Forget the media dog'n'pony show complete with rank'n'file excuses and canned questions. Fact: The US Federal Government is out of control. Fact: They can justify anything they want at any time. Fact: If you notice it you will either be sent on a 5150 as "paranoid", shipped off to Gitmo, or you will meet a brick wall of denial.
Fact: The only economically viable solution is complete and utter dismantling of the Federal Government. Failure to do so will inevitably result in pi55ing off someone who _is_ crazy enough to start a real war or execute a series, not just one, but a whole string of 9/11 style strategic attacks.
It's only a matter of time.
> are decent people trying to do a job. They're not power-mad little dictators
Any decent person trying to do an impossible job in order to make performance goals with a house payment and three hungry children to feed can and will act in the same manner as a power mad little dictator when properly stressed.
Which is why the federal debt, the Federal Reserve, and taxes are so important. Puppets on strings and debt is stress.
Nobody is going to shoot you in your sleep comrade. Once we know which brand of corn you buy we will work with your employer and your grocery store to adjust your income and the price carefully to bleed you dry just like any other nine volt battery.
Duh.
> By the same logic, Linux is full of back doors too
Yes, it is. Nobody has ever denied this.
> Linux is built by people who are only coding because they hate
Wrong. They do not hate. They have a hobby which they enjoy and Microsoft cannot employ every one of them.
> want to stick it to The Man in every which way
Convenient side effect of their hobby. Nothing more.
> they put back doors in the OSs
Except that, in open source, we all police each other.
> The Voices told me so!
You should have that checked out.
> The door swings both ways
FOSS/FSF/GNU has the proper doorstop.
If you've ever worked in the government or for a government contractor you would know that those are the people who have the most time to sit around, with nothing else to do, and play with such things as creating an exploit out of the hole.
The only other demographic which has as much "boredom time" are homeless people, teenagers, and extravagantly wealthy people. Homeless people don't have the access (per capita, probability), teenagers don't have the knowledge or the social connections (per capita, probability), and we already know that extravagantly wealthy people are associated with (usually pulling the strings on) the politicians and the federal agencies/contractors.
It all fits perfectly just the way I say it does.
> How many libraries of congress is that?
All of them, plus the relevant libraries of the respective states, plus the libraries of the respective counties, plus the libraries of the relevant cities, plus the libraries of the relevant municipalities, plus the libraries of the relevant precincts.
> so anything said against Vista will be modded "Insightful" without the barest show of proof?
It's a logical conclusion--not only is it "a" logical conclusion but it is the most probable conclusion. The people with the strongest backgrounds in computer security, working for Microsoft, will be associated with other people with the strongest backgrounds in computer security. Those with the strongest backgrounds in computer security are most likely to be associated with governmental agencies, and in possession of the necessary security clearances, which allow them to work there.
Thus, those who know the most deeply buried exploits for Windows Vista (especially the exploits which may even be specific to particular hardware) are in the social circles which are closest to organizations such as the NSA.
It's all very statistical and it makes perfect sense. The only possible defeat would be if Vista had no security exploits and we don't need to cite any links to know that is false.
> sure plenty of criminal masterminds already use PGP or GnuPG
The real criminal masterminds use whatever the Feds and the military are using, which we don't know about because it's classified information.
> a failure of my rights under the Constitution
Which, if the media would start telling the truth, only really applies to actions taken by the Federal Government. If we'd be following the Constitution, as it was written, the States are free to fine-tune things as they see fit.
> the people should control them
That was my assertion as well. I apologize if the sentence logic was tangled.
> Fact: If you notice it you will either be sent on a 5150 as "paranoid"
This is a fact. I've proven it through personal experience at least three times.
> Fact: They can justify anything they want at any time
That is a fact as evidenced in the news over the last two years.
> Fact: The only economically viable solution is complete and utter dismantling of the Federal Government
Proof is available here.
I don't know why the mods knocked the post down to -1:Flamebait. Apparently they haven't been paying attention to their political studies.
The US is on a crash course to pi55 someone off royally and start a world war. How many paramilitary groups, which are in fundamental conflict with each other (not to mention all the others around the globe), does our own government fund using our taxpayer dollars?
This isn't rocket science. This is basic (primative) human behavior and no amount of CNN sugar coating can change it.
> when GWB signed the Patriot Act and drove a nail in the Bill of Rights
The Bill of Rights has been dead for nearly 200 years. See here and here for explanations and rationale.
> Crime Control
I always assert that the rest is pre-empted by choice of the definition of the word "crime". We don't have too many criminals. We have too many laws.
If we could refine our system of laws then, in instances such as this story, the appropriate use of power wouldn't be questionable because there'd be no excuse to abuse it in other more borderline situations.
> Most have GPS incorporated
Yeah. We tried to warn cell phone users about that. Most of them couldn't see past the "Ooh! Aah! New nifty social status gadget!" mentality.
> they're all terrorists anyway
Every single cell phone call relayed through a satellite counts as an international transmission and is eligible for government surveillance.
Even if you manage to post to Slashdot through only American servers the moment someone in Canada reads your post it becomes an international transmission and is eligible for government surveillance.
Forget the media dog'n'pony show complete with rank'n'file excuses and canned questions. Fact: The US Federal Government is out of control. Fact: They can justify anything they want at any time. Fact: If you notice it you will either be sent on a 5150 as "paranoid", shipped off to Gitmo, or you will meet a brick wall of denial.
Fact: The only economically viable solution is complete and utter dismantling of the Federal Government. Failure to do so will inevitably result in pi55ing off someone who _is_ crazy enough to start a real war or execute a series, not just one, but a whole string of 9/11 style strategic attacks.
It's only a matter of time.
Why couldn't you make click-links to the WHOIS db info as well? I'd like to see where most of those line up.
> Ignorance is not an excuse
When the legal code in the US fills entire floors of a stadium sized library how in the world can ignorance not be an excuse? There isn't a single person in the nation who knows all of the laws.
We do not have too many criminals. We have too many laws.
> I can very much see the police's side of this
That is a beautiful statement of the common public misconception (which is often well groomed by government whining).
This isn't about seeing the police side of this. This is about the legitimate derivation of power within a Constitutional Republic. History is filled with dire examples of why it is best for the citizenry to disallow authority for the sake of political or legal ease. At the same time there are no lighthouse examples of why a well controlled government would be a Bad Thing.
Does the judge, or any members of his family, own stock in the company which produces the shoot-and-tag GPS tracking guns?
Big brother issues are definitely a concern in this case. More and more of the population seems to be willing to allow themselves to be profiled to death, though, so there really aren't any arguments left which would make any sort of difference.
Other than "ulterior motive" and "big brother", there really isn't much else to talk about except the weather.