Use an account if you have anything useful to say. Otherwise you should be getting the Troll mods. Oh wait. You're probably posting AC _because_ it was you who applied the troll mods.
If you're worried about the federal government violating the US Constitution then you're only about 150 years late.
Rather than teaching the Revolutionary War and the Declaration of Independence in social studies they should be teaching courses in tax evasion, legal loopholes and subterfuge.
I could read the page and I'm even sitting behind the library's great wall of CyberSitter.
In some ways I do agree about plain text content, though. I wistfully remember the days when signal to noise (actual text to protocol encapsulation) was still pretty high.
What they could do is make it a ticketable, even jailable, offense to be in a state without an indentification card for that state. Maybe they'll even ask vacationers to register with a national database. It'll have a web interface, and a dial up interface, and a teletype interface, so nobody can claim it isn't accessible. Employers will obtain special exemptions for their employees and scanning will be automated using the national ID card or the existing interstate highway toll booth automated payment systems.
The offense, as with all offenses, will be selectively enforced and abused. If you appear to be a wealthy senior citizen driving a Cadillac you'll probably never be stopped for out-of-state plates. If you appear to be a young cruiser living life to the fullest, though, you'll probably be stopped for the equivalent of "you didn't use a turn signal with that last lane change". If you fail to look the officer directly in the eye then you're probably hiding something. If you do look the officer directly in the eye then you're trying to intimidate. Either situation can be construed as probable cause to check the ID and the national vacation database.
Synapse firing is a simplified approximation of the passing of chemical signals from one cell to another. All cells throughout the body continually emit and absorb various signaling molecules (lymphokines, chemokines, cytokines, to name three classes). Taken as a whole this can be called the language of cells (a particular interest of mine). There are many different chemicals involved in synapse firing, and not all (or even the same set) of them are used all the time. Think of brain synapses as a parallel bus. Different voltages can be sent along different patterns of different wires at any given time.
In short, though, yes. The brain can be ed digitally. It is much more complex than most people initially think.
> my favorite games are increasingly the ones where I can find my own methods of play
A system will continue to run when the rules are broken. A game ends when the rules are broken. Many games don't end suddenly when the rules are no longer followed but, rather, they begin to repeat themselves and become quite predictable and, thus, boring.
Good games are few and far between: one of the reasons why chess is timeless. It has rules, they cannot be broken, yet people still play it.
Football, basketball, volleyball, soccer, etc. are arguably not games as the rules have been slowly evolving. They are systems. Systems tend to persist longer than games.
The conceptual difference between the two is very important. Society is a system, constantly evolving, and it is both conscious and subconscious, both behavioral and psychological, both learned and inherited.
On rare occasion one will find a "game" which can be turned into a system. My favorite was "Pirates!" on my Amiga 500. I played it through once or twice by the script and then continued to play it for months with the only goal in mind to maintain a "notorious" reputation with all four nations while still sailing, docking, trading, and plundering wherever I pleased.
Exodus: Ultima III was another good system (excellent music on the C=64, as well). Most f4ntasy adventure games could be made into systems.
Expansion packs are very important parts of games because they allow the original game engine to be expanded, making it closer to a system. I've found that games which have confined maps tend to wear out more quickly--another reason for expansion packs.
Some guys play with their nuts. Other guys play with their car alarms.
At one time I agreed with you. The following text is included not so much directed at you, Captain, but is included so that maybe others will read it and see the logic which is currently ruining our nation (and the world).
My study of the Constitution has led me to believe otherwise:
Article 1, Section 8:
The Congress shall have power... To borrow money on the credit of the United States So, what, the founders didn't realize that, no matter what restrictions they placed on the federal government concerning scope of power, authorizing one group to borrow money on the credit of another group was a carte blanche pass for indentured servitude? Just like a fractal or a Mandelbrot set the premise starts small (as in 1776) but continues to expand along the same pattern until, 230 years later, we see the grand system as it is today. It simply isn't possible that they could have overlooked this very important aspect as they had plenty of instances, in their own time, where Britain had played the "we hold the financial cards so either you will do what we say or you will starve" game.
The only possible excuse is that, the way the Federal Government was initially structured, the debt of "The United States of America" may have been completely separate from the common taxpayers.
Article 9:
All debts contracted and engagements entered into, before the adoption of this Constitution, shall be as valid against the United States under this Constitution, as under the Confederation. Arguably this may have been written with a good heart. The entire nation needed to be free of Britain and, as such, it was everyone's responsibility to pay for the war.
Amendment 14, Section 4:
The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law... shall not be questioned. This is impossible to morally, ethically, or legally justify. I'm going to quote an earlier post:
Of particular interest is the quote from the 14th Amendment (pph.) "the validity of the public debt shall not be questioned". What business does that have in a legal document in general or, more specifically, in the Constitution of the United States of America (land of the free, home of the brave, home of free speech, etc. etc. etc.)? Shouldn't the politicians be free to debate whatever they wish for however long they wish? Isn't that what they do already? That must've been one heckuva firestorm argument in the Senate or House for them to include, in a Constitutional amendment, verbage which amounts to "just don't bother asking about it anymore."
Is it coincidental that this verbage is included in the amendment just after the 13th Amendment (Abolition of Slavery)? Could it be that the Federal Government had sold itself into unsalvageable debt during the Civil War and some politicians, who didn't feel it was proper to put the entire population into wholesale indentured servitude for a war that most of them never asked for, tried to convince the rest to simply default on the loan and tell the bankers to stuff it? Could this unsalvageable debt be the explanation for the 1929 pump'n'dump and the 2000 pump'n'dump? After all of this I'm fairly convinced that the USA didn't so much win the Revolutionary War as much as Britain said,"Okay, look. You're not worth fighting about it with. You can go off and have your own silly little nation and silly little government because, when it all comes down to it, we still control the money, the banks, and the international shipping lanes which you will have to use to do anything."
> The salaries paid for H1-B employees is exactly the same as those paid anyone else
You almost had me on that one.
> It is not legal to do otherwise
Loopholes, loopholes, loopholes.
> at that same skill/job level for the government that shows we are not underpaying the H1-B employees
Works quite well when the job description has been tailored such that only the H1-B applicants, or their equivalent in undereducated citizens, fit the job description. Most of us have heard how the hiring process works.
> The issue is absolutely finding enough qualified people for the jobs that are available
Define "qualified" without implying a tailored job description.
> There are a number of reasons that jobs cannot be filled without the H1-B visas
But the only reasons which truly matter are loopholes and tailored job descriptions.
> shocked that... execs would lie about anything like this
<insert well-known HomelessinLaJolla typical political spiel here>
Even I am beginning to grow weary of reading about the thousands of different ways in which the population is being controlled by one single issue: debt.
What we need is a really messy revolution. Automobiles can be restored from scratch. I can build Linux from scratch since about version 2.2. I've dissected and analyzed the inner working of world politics for six or seven years.
I'll be more than happy to restructure this world properly. It'd really be very simple: quit letting the landlords play golf with the people who dictate the salaries.
> This isn't always how it happens in the real world
Not since '94, no. (circa) '94 was the year in which the government began authorizing enormous amounts of taxpayer money to be funneled into the stock market under the auspices of technological and computing grants.
To sum it up: the problems experienced in security and coding today are a logical result of the artificial inflation of the computing industry for one single purpose. The profit of the politicians who authorized the spending and the bankers who were the first to line up at the trough.
Had the industry been allowed to develop on its own, without the interference from the government and the bankers, the entire landscape would look much nicer than it does today.
So really what you're trying to say is: "You should quit because, whatever it is you're trying to do, it's working."
Heh. You sound just like my formermanagement. Are you scoring two promotions or blowing away quarterly expectations by working me over? You fit right in with the harassment which I fully expected to take. Congratulations on being such a good little dog. So easily trained. So predictable.
I don't make myself difficult to find. You're the one hiding behind AC (though the Slashdot mgmt. has your IP conveniently logged and I'm pretty certain that the IT overlords have their own special way of addressing people like you--maybe you could ask Pudge). If you really have such a large problem with me perhaps you could come and visit SoCal. You'll have to buy the coffee, though, since I don't have any cash. I can help you find peanut butter and jelly sandwiches and we can resolve our differences peacefully. For $500/hour I can even train you to wash your filthy mouth of the language you choose: language which wouldn't even be fit for the nation's worst rejects.
You do realize that the intersection between the Internet and real life (a topic of many of my journal entries) is soon going to be a major media topic (if the history of gossip means anything to you) and I fully intend to be helping to ensure that the arena remains as level and as clean as possible. Judging by the verbage in your post you've already been disqualified from play.
Systems that are developed on a large scale and mission critial applications benefit from open source m0dels because that can utilize a large tester base I see it in terms of receiving what was paid for.
A program which costs $200 (typified as the industry and closed source) should not be relying on the consumer to be the (security) beta testers.
A program which costs nothing, or only a nominal amount (typified as FOSS), is able to ethically rely on the consumer base to be (security) beta testers.
If I paid for it then it should work (shouldn't break/shouldn't be so easily exploitable). If I didn't pay for it then I should expect to make a contribution.
Right now the industry is addicted to charging production quality prices for beta (even alpha) quality software.
I agree that there are hundreds of considerations which may affect the visual pattern of the graphs. I still feel that there is some useful information to be gained by this particular visualization.
Nobody is claiming that this is a quantitative, tit-for-tat, comparison. What is being suggested is that this is qualitative evidence in the security debate.
Apparently this article touched off some pretty severe nerves, though, because both the posters and the mods are going hog-wild with the flamebait.
> This is just insubstantial FUD as far as I can see, backed up by indecipherable pictures
So your assertion is that an overhead road map of cities, such as New York, NY vs. Kalamazoo, MI, would be entirely useless in generalizing points of traffic congestion and points of traffic collisions?
Maybe you don't design operating systems (computer or civil), or, if you do, maybe you shouldn't.
> there isn't a single friggin' word anywhere on either of the pictures
If you read the article then you would understand that the intersection points are memory locations, not words. The author explains that each memory location is a point of possible failure.
According to the blog author the graphs are maps of calls to memory locations which would also include calls made from the web server to the underlying OS (eg. calls from apache to glibc).
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Use an account if you have anything useful to say. Otherwise you should be getting the Troll mods. Oh wait. You're probably posting AC _because_ it was you who applied the troll mods.
If you're worried about the federal government violating the US Constitution then you're only about 150 years late.
Rather than teaching the Revolutionary War and the Declaration of Independence in social studies they should be teaching courses in tax evasion, legal loopholes and subterfuge.
I could read the page and I'm even sitting behind the library's great wall of CyberSitter.
In some ways I do agree about plain text content, though. I wistfully remember the days when signal to noise (actual text to protocol encapsulation) was still pretty high.
More people need to pay attention.
What they could do is make it a ticketable, even jailable, offense to be in a state without an indentification card for that state. Maybe they'll even ask vacationers to register with a national database. It'll have a web interface, and a dial up interface, and a teletype interface, so nobody can claim it isn't accessible. Employers will obtain special exemptions for their employees and scanning will be automated using the national ID card or the existing interstate highway toll booth automated payment systems.
The offense, as with all offenses, will be selectively enforced and abused. If you appear to be a wealthy senior citizen driving a Cadillac you'll probably never be stopped for out-of-state plates. If you appear to be a young cruiser living life to the fullest, though, you'll probably be stopped for the equivalent of "you didn't use a turn signal with that last lane change". If you fail to look the officer directly in the eye then you're probably hiding something. If you do look the officer directly in the eye then you're trying to intimidate. Either situation can be construed as probable cause to check the ID and the national vacation database.
Look. It's really not that far fetched.
Ooooh! That's a good one. Do you feel better?
Following on the parent's questions...
> So does their device withstand extremes
of judgemental bias in the user?
> Is it impervious
to prejudice?
> synapse firing
Synapse firing is a simplified approximation of the passing of chemical signals from one cell to another. All cells throughout the body continually emit and absorb various signaling molecules (lymphokines, chemokines, cytokines, to name three classes). Taken as a whole this can be called the language of cells (a particular interest of mine). There are many different chemicals involved in synapse firing, and not all (or even the same set) of them are used all the time. Think of brain synapses as a parallel bus. Different voltages can be sent along different patterns of different wires at any given time.
In short, though, yes. The brain can be ed digitally. It is much more complex than most people initially think.
> my favorite games are increasingly the ones where I can find my own methods of play
A system will continue to run when the rules are broken. A game ends when the rules are broken. Many games don't end suddenly when the rules are no longer followed but, rather, they begin to repeat themselves and become quite predictable and, thus, boring.
Good games are few and far between: one of the reasons why chess is timeless. It has rules, they cannot be broken, yet people still play it.
Football, basketball, volleyball, soccer, etc. are arguably not games as the rules have been slowly evolving. They are systems. Systems tend to persist longer than games.
The conceptual difference between the two is very important. Society is a system, constantly evolving, and it is both conscious and subconscious, both behavioral and psychological, both learned and inherited.
On rare occasion one will find a "game" which can be turned into a system. My favorite was "Pirates!" on my Amiga 500. I played it through once or twice by the script and then continued to play it for months with the only goal in mind to maintain a "notorious" reputation with all four nations while still sailing, docking, trading, and plundering wherever I pleased.
Exodus: Ultima III was another good system (excellent music on the C=64, as well). Most f4ntasy adventure games could be made into systems.
Expansion packs are very important parts of games because they allow the original game engine to be expanded, making it closer to a system. I've found that games which have confined maps tend to wear out more quickly--another reason for expansion packs.
Some guys play with their nuts. Other guys play with their car alarms.
My study of the Constitution has led me to believe otherwise: Article 1, Section 8:
The Congress shall have power
The only possible excuse is that, the way the Federal Government was initially structured, the debt of "The United States of America" may have been completely separate from the common taxpayers. Article 9:
All debts contracted and engagements entered into, before the adoption of this Constitution, shall be as valid against the United States under this Constitution, as under the Confederation. Arguably this may have been written with a good heart. The entire nation needed to be free of Britain and, as such, it was everyone's responsibility to pay for the war. Amendment 14, Section 4:
The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law
Is it coincidental that this verbage is included in the amendment just after the 13th Amendment (Abolition of Slavery)? Could it be that the Federal Government had sold itself into unsalvageable debt during the Civil War and some politicians, who didn't feel it was proper to put the entire population into wholesale indentured servitude for a war that most of them never asked for, tried to convince the rest to simply default on the loan and tell the bankers to stuff it? Could this unsalvageable debt be the explanation for the 1929 pump'n'dump and the 2000 pump'n'dump? After all of this I'm fairly convinced that the USA didn't so much win the Revolutionary War as much as Britain said,"Okay, look. You're not worth fighting about it with. You can go off and have your own silly little nation and silly little government because, when it all comes down to it, we still control the money, the banks, and the international shipping lanes which you will have to use to do anything."
> I am a Microsoft manager
Yeah sure.
> The salaries paid for H1-B employees is exactly the same as those paid anyone else
You almost had me on that one.
> It is not legal to do otherwise
Loopholes, loopholes, loopholes.
> at that same skill/job level for the government that shows we are not underpaying the H1-B employees
Works quite well when the job description has been tailored such that only the H1-B applicants, or their equivalent in undereducated citizens, fit the job description. Most of us have heard how the hiring process works.
> The issue is absolutely finding enough qualified people for the jobs that are available
Define "qualified" without implying a tailored job description.
> There are a number of reasons that jobs cannot be filled without the H1-B visas
But the only reasons which truly matter are loopholes and tailored job descriptions.
I'm going to stop now. It all sounds the same.
> shocked that ... execs would lie about anything like this
<insert well-known HomelessinLaJolla typical political spiel here>
Even I am beginning to grow weary of reading about the thousands of different ways in which the population is being controlled by one single issue: debt.
What we need is a really messy revolution. Automobiles can be restored from scratch. I can build Linux from scratch since about version 2.2. I've dissected and analyzed the inner working of world politics for six or seven years.
I'll be more than happy to restructure this world properly. It'd really be very simple: quit letting the landlords play golf with the people who dictate the salaries.
Land of the free...
So it could have been a government exercise turned into a convenient "ooh-ahh!" media story?
Ha. "Because everything you say is stupid."
omg pwnt.
> This isn't always how it happens in the real world
Not since '94, no. (circa) '94 was the year in which the government began authorizing enormous amounts of taxpayer money to be funneled into the stock market under the auspices of technological and computing grants.
To sum it up: the problems experienced in security and coding today are a logical result of the artificial inflation of the computing industry for one single purpose. The profit of the politicians who authorized the spending and the bankers who were the first to line up at the trough.
Had the industry been allowed to develop on its own, without the interference from the government and the bankers, the entire landscape would look much nicer than it does today.
So really what you're trying to say is: "You should quit because, whatever it is you're trying to do, it's working."
Heh. You sound just like my former management. Are you scoring two promotions or blowing away quarterly expectations by working me over? You fit right in with the harassment which I fully expected to take. Congratulations on being such a good little dog. So easily trained. So predictable.
I don't make myself difficult to find. You're the one hiding behind AC (though the Slashdot mgmt. has your IP conveniently logged and I'm pretty certain that the IT overlords have their own special way of addressing people like you--maybe you could ask Pudge). If you really have such a large problem with me perhaps you could come and visit SoCal. You'll have to buy the coffee, though, since I don't have any cash. I can help you find peanut butter and jelly sandwiches and we can resolve our differences peacefully. For $500/hour I can even train you to wash your filthy mouth of the language you choose: language which wouldn't even be fit for the nation's worst rejects.
You do realize that the intersection between the Internet and real life (a topic of many of my journal entries) is soon going to be a major media topic (if the history of gossip means anything to you) and I fully intend to be helping to ensure that the arena remains as level and as clean as possible. Judging by the verbage in your post you've already been disqualified from play.
A program which costs $200 (typified as the industry and closed source) should not be relying on the consumer to be the (security) beta testers.
A program which costs nothing, or only a nominal amount (typified as FOSS), is able to ethically rely on the consumer base to be (security) beta testers.
If I paid for it then it should work (shouldn't break/shouldn't be so easily exploitable). If I didn't pay for it then I should expect to make a contribution.
Right now the industry is addicted to charging production quality prices for beta (even alpha) quality software.
After the recent mod bomb frenzy, I'm going to try and duck the cutting swath of industry employees and begin with...
"Um. I have no opinion but, if I did, I support whichever puts more food on more people's tables and pays more people's mortgages."
How's that for the mods?
I agree that there are hundreds of considerations which may affect the visual pattern of the graphs. I still feel that there is some useful information to be gained by this particular visualization.
Nobody is claiming that this is a quantitative, tit-for-tat, comparison. What is being suggested is that this is qualitative evidence in the security debate.
Apparently this article touched off some pretty severe nerves, though, because both the posters and the mods are going hog-wild with the flamebait.
> This is just insubstantial FUD as far as I can see, backed up by indecipherable pictures
So your assertion is that an overhead road map of cities, such as New York, NY vs. Kalamazoo, MI, would be entirely useless in generalizing points of traffic congestion and points of traffic collisions?
Maybe you don't design operating systems (computer or civil), or, if you do, maybe you shouldn't.
> are entirely meaningless
Which is entirely wrong
> except to the gullible
Unless you're prone to extremist knee-jerk overreaction.
The graphs are not entirely meaningless. They demonstrate trends which have real world interpretable value.
> there isn't a single friggin' word anywhere on either of the pictures
If you read the article then you would understand that the intersection points are memory locations, not words. The author explains that each memory location is a point of possible failure.
> That is *all* they show
According to the blog author the graphs are maps of calls to memory locations which would also include calls made from the web server to the underlying OS (eg. calls from apache to glibc).