How do you figure? Because I was rebutting a system that I love? Had you used the Wii or the PS3 in the same shill-like fasion, I would have defended both of those equally as well.
I'm a gamer. I enjoy any system that lets me play games. Being "brand loyal" as a gamer is completely stupid and pointless...You miss out on all kinds of games if you limit yourself to one brand.
It's especially depressing when you see people get payed to drill one console while applauding another. If consoles could shit, it would still stink regardless of what the name on the front says. ALL consoles have their drawbacks, just like all consoles have their advantages and high points.
::sigh:: the shills are out in force today...when are you fuckers gonna start posting under an actual username? Just for kicks (and because I have one more hour at work and I'm bored out of my mind):
* Weeks to months of sitting around waiting for your 360 to be returned from Microsoft for its latest RRoD repair!
::shrug:: only had one of mine die on me, and I had the replacement deal from gamestop
* Forking out 50 dollars every year just to be allowed to play games online!
In my mind, the service that Live provides is very much worth 50 dollars a year...apparently, it's worth it to millions of other gamers too
* No dedicated servers for online games!
??? It's not like the Live servers are running everything off the same shit..I don't think the servers you download a movie off of would be the same servers that a game would run on...
* Disc scratching DVD drives!
if you are dumb enough to move ANYTHING that spins while it is turned on (unless of course it's a laptop, in which case you don't really have too much a choice) then you deserve to have your shit scratched.
* Jet engine loud DVD drives!
Agreed, but just like the PS2 (which, if you ever owned one of the originals, you would find that the fan is loud as fuck which Sony later replaced with something much quieter) there are BenQ drives now that are MUCH MUCH quieter.
* Shitty last gen looking graphics in Microsoft's big first party titles like Halo 3 and Forza 2!
You can't judge a games graphics based on it's BETA. That is an exercise in stupidity. As for Forza 2, you quite obviously haven't seen a single screenshot of it.
* Completely botched backwards compatibility!
I own ~70 Xbox games, 63 of which are on the list. I would hardly call that "completely botched". It's not as robust as the Wii's or the PS3's backwards compat, but then again Microsoft never claimed that it would be 100%.
* That wonderfully secure confidence in the Xbox brand that Microsoft could pull the plug on the whole mess at any moment like they did with the first Xbox disaster!
That didn't really bother me much...I was ready to move on to the next set of consoles...besides, the original Xbox had some AMAZING games on it...I would hardly call it a disaster (unless of course you are looking at it from a money point of view, but I doubt you have stock in Microsoft so this shouldn't really bother you at all)
Anything else? I'm really bored at work, I would love to respond to more of these....
What you described is the exact reason I sprung for the 50 dollar replacement plan on all of mine.
I've only had to use it on one of my 360's, but in the event that one of them did die I figured it better to get a brand new in box system rather than ship it out...that is worth 50 extra dollars to me.
I do agree with what you are saying though, insofar as the replacement refurb units are concerned.
4 of them...two are modified, two are not. one modified and one "vanilla" console are at my place, and the other modified/vanilla mix are at the ladyfiend's place.
I know I know I know, "The 360 self destructs! The numbers don't lie!"
True, but I think people exaggerate them a bit...I myself own 4 different 360's, and know of no less than 30 people that own at least one...out of everyone I know that has had one, only two people have gotten the ring (one of which is me)
My one RRoD came after I cracked the case open on one of them to clean out the dust...unbeknown to me at the time, I had accidently loosened two of the CPU heatsink screws a half-turn, and within 2 hours I had the rings...the other 3 that I own have never had an issue. THe only friend I know that has had an RRoD had one on a launch unit.
I'm not saying it's not a real problem. I'm saying people have exaggerated it a bit. (yes, I am aware that my 30 friends hardly constitute the entirety of the market, but those friends know people and those people know people and so on)
Basically, what I am getting at is don't balk at buying a 360 simply because of all the red ring talk...I own all three next gen systems and my 360 by FAR gets the most play time out of the three (not to mention IMO the 360 has the largest lineup of exciting games on the horizon)
The only way I could see this working is if they only charged for the demos that are on the disc for a month....after the month is up, release them for free.
I know for certain games I would be willing to pay to have a playable demo (Bioshock, Fable 2, and Mass Effect come to mind) but in general, I likely would be able to wait it out until the demo was either free or the game was released.
Hold on, my friends. With each passing day, games are being more and more scrutinized. It's only a matter of time until it's a criminal offense to make a violent game.
And you know what the absolute worst part about all this is? The original video game generation is the generation calling the shots on this one.
I'm going because I am in the armed forces and they sent me there. Just like if I got rounded up by the police from my media pirating, I would goto jail.
Having been on both sides of a "fuck you" many many times, I accept that as just going with the territory...kinda like living next to a volcano and not being suprised if you come home one day with lava on your porch.
I modded the firmware in my 360. True, I don't have Live access anymore...then again, considering I have burned roughly 20 games, I have saved about $1200...I think I will go buy a core system and spend a hundred bucks on Ebay to buy used version of the games I want on live...I've saved enough to make the purchase warrented.
Still. I refuse to pay 60 dollars for a game (unless it is something like Bioshock or Mass Effect or Fable 2...I intend to purchase those.)
Am I a criminal? Perhaps. Is what I'm doing morally wrong and illegal? Perhaps. Do I give a fuck? no.
And, y'know, when you consider our budget is a couple trillion dollars, that still comes out to a shitload of money we could instead be spending on ourselves.
Only a Sith sees things in terms of black and white. And we've certainly "helped out" in Iraq.
Did I or did I not say we have done and do some fucked up things? I'm fairly certain I did. I admit that we do wrong things sometimes...but you cannot sit there and say that America doesn't support millions of people with food, clothing, and water.
Too bad that the vast majority of the billions we give away are to Boeing and McDonald-Douglas and Northrop Grumman and Haliburton.
You know what? I could be wrong in this, but last time I checked we give away hundreds of thousands of tons of food every year to 3rd world countries. Last time I checked, we spend BILLIONS in assisting countries that take the brunt of a natural disaster.
Last time I checked, we spend billions on other countries in ways that DO NOT BENEFIT US. Billions that we could instead spend on our OWN country.
Is our government corrupt? Yes. But whose government isn't? Once again, we may do fucked up things, but NO ONE, and I repeat NO ONE, makes us help a SINGLE country. We could just as easily lock ourselves up and give a big fuck you to the rest of the world. Instead, we spend our time, rescources, and risk the lives of our own men and women to assist those in need around the world.
Wherever you live, I hope you remember that when you see our national guard risking their own lives to save the lives of YOUR countrymen when their homes flood from a massive hurricane. I hope you remember that when you see OUR OWN TROOPS risk THEIR OWN LIVES to save someone like you.
The world may hate America, the world may have a shit view of us, but that hasn't stopped us has it? You may spit in our faces, but you will be spitting in our faces as we put food on the tables of millions of people around the world.
You know what, you're right. Fuck the rest of the world. We (America) will pull every troop out of every nation we are operating in, we will stop providing billions to the world in food, medicine, and clothing, and we will no longer respond when a natural disaster occurs.
We will put every one of our troops on our border and shoot anyone trying to get in. Anyone that want's out is free to leave. Once you leave, you cannot come back in.
We will give ZERO food and money to ANY nation. We will simply take care of ourselves, and fuck the rest of you.
America may do some horrible things, but people seem to forget the GOOD things that we do. You don't like it or appreciate it? Fine. Fuck if we care.
If we do help out, we are being nosey and putting ourselves where "we don't belong". If we DON'T help, we are being "stupid selfish Americans". Well FUCK you. No one makes us give away billions upon billions of dollars a year. NO ONE.
We have done and do fucked up things; I will never deny that. However, NEVER forget that we also do some amazing things. We help literally millions of people a day soley because we WANT to. We will gladly bow out and let the world deal with it's own problems. Just don't come crying and bitching to us when a giant wave floods your entire country or when lava buries your villages.
I will echo many of the comments already posted...I prefer buttons on my phone primarily for text messaging, if nothing else. Having actual buttons on a phone allow me to text while driving without even looking at the phone...if I want to tell someone I am going to be there in a 20 minutes or whatever, I can pick my phone up, flip it open, and do the ENTIRE operation start to finish without looking at my phone more than once (and the one time I do glance at it is to verify that I am sedning to text to the right person)
My eyes leave the road for a grand total of 1 second.
Like I said, it just seems odd that you would be behind so many games and yet of all the things coming out for the 360, Halo 3 is the only one you are excited about?
You are indeed entitled to your own opinion, it just seems odd to have an opinion in which you write off that many promising games.. Not ripping in you because you "can't get behind some games", it just seems to be doing a major disservice to yourself to write some of those titles off, especially since you want to seem to be an "accross the board" gamer
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and by "rebutting a system I love" i meant "rebutting what you said about a system I love"
Must be all that toner dust floating around in my office...
How do you figure? Because I was rebutting a system that I love?
Had you used the Wii or the PS3 in the same shill-like fasion, I would have defended both of those equally as well.
I'm a gamer. I enjoy any system that lets me play games. Being "brand loyal" as a gamer is completely stupid and pointless...You miss out on all kinds of games if you limit yourself to one brand.
It's especially depressing when you see people get payed to drill one console while applauding another. If consoles could shit, it would still stink regardless of what the name on the front says. ALL consoles have their drawbacks, just like all consoles have their advantages and high points.
Anything else? I'm really bored at work, I would love to respond to more of these....
What you described is the exact reason I sprung for the 50 dollar replacement plan on all of mine.
I've only had to use it on one of my 360's, but in the event that one of them did die I figured it better to get a brand new in box system rather than ship it out...that is worth 50 extra dollars to me.
I do agree with what you are saying though, insofar as the replacement refurb units are concerned.
Apparently, I'm pathetic enough to garner the attention of the slashtrolls.
/wrists then?
I take it I should just go
4 of them...two are modified, two are not. one modified and one "vanilla" console are at my place, and the other modified/vanilla mix are at the ladyfiend's place.
I know I know I know, "The 360 self destructs! The numbers don't lie!"
True, but I think people exaggerate them a bit...I myself own 4 different 360's, and know of no less than 30 people that own at least one...out of everyone I know that has had one, only two people have gotten the ring (one of which is me)
My one RRoD came after I cracked the case open on one of them to clean out the dust...unbeknown to me at the time, I had accidently loosened two of the CPU heatsink screws a half-turn, and within 2 hours I had the rings...the other 3 that I own have never had an issue. THe only friend I know that has had an RRoD had one on a launch unit.
I'm not saying it's not a real problem. I'm saying people have exaggerated it a bit. (yes, I am aware that my 30 friends hardly constitute the entirety of the market, but those friends know people and those people know people and so on)
Basically, what I am getting at is don't balk at buying a 360 simply because of all the red ring talk...I own all three next gen systems and my 360 by FAR gets the most play time out of the three (not to mention IMO the 360 has the largest lineup of exciting games on the horizon)
The only way I could see this working is if they only charged for the demos that are on the disc for a month....after the month is up, release them for free.
I know for certain games I would be willing to pay to have a playable demo (Bioshock, Fable 2, and Mass Effect come to mind) but in general, I likely would be able to wait it out until the demo was either free or the game was released.
"Now brush her hair"
"...ok..."
"Your pony died because she wasn't pretty enough."
"Waugh? AAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGH!!!!!!!!!!!"
When I saw this article title, I choked up a bit.
Hold on, my friends. With each passing day, games are being more and more scrutinized. It's only a matter of time until it's a criminal offense to make a violent game.
And you know what the absolute worst part about all this is? The original video game generation is the generation calling the shots on this one.
How big of a pile of bullshit is that?
you know what is really hypocritical about the view that a lot of people are expressing about this?
If I were pirating microsoft software, the chances of most of the people here on slashdot caring would be next to nothing.
I'm going because I am in the armed forces and they sent me there. Just like if I got rounded up by the police from my media pirating, I would goto jail.
because it's a victimless crime /sarcasm
In all honesty, I don't have a reason. I don't have an excuse. I just don't care.
Sorry. I know I've really let you down.
::shrug:: never said I was proud of it.
BTW, keep my "piss-poor" morals in mind while I'm getting shot at in Iraq.
Having been on both sides of a "fuck you" many many times, I accept that as just going with the territory...kinda like living next to a volcano and not being suprised if you come home one day with lava on your porch.
If I could walk up to a car and clone it, leaving the original car fully intact and in it's original form, I would do that in a second.
Don't act like you wouldn't either.
Hi there, my name is Kettle.
When you goto Gamestop or Ebay and pay 30 dollars for something used, guess what...the game companies aren't making any money off you either.
I modded the firmware in my 360. True, I don't have Live access anymore...then again, considering I have burned roughly 20 games, I have saved about $1200...I think I will go buy a core system and spend a hundred bucks on Ebay to buy used version of the games I want on live...I've saved enough to make the purchase warrented.
Still. I refuse to pay 60 dollars for a game (unless it is something like Bioshock or Mass Effect or Fable 2...I intend to purchase those.)
Am I a criminal? Perhaps. Is what I'm doing morally wrong and illegal? Perhaps. Do I give a fuck? no.
And, y'know, when you consider our budget is a couple trillion dollars, that still comes out to a shitload of money we could instead be spending on ourselves.
once again, this goes back to mistakes we have made...something which I will never deny. We have something far from a perfect country.
Just because Babe Ruth struck out sometimes doesn't mean he was a shitty baseball player.
You know what? I could be wrong in this, but last time I checked we give away hundreds of thousands of tons of food every year to 3rd world countries. Last time I checked, we spend BILLIONS in assisting countries that take the brunt of a natural disaster.
Last time I checked, we spend billions on other countries in ways that DO NOT BENEFIT US. Billions that we could instead spend on our OWN country.
Is our government corrupt? Yes. But whose government isn't? Once again, we may do fucked up things, but NO ONE, and I repeat NO ONE, makes us help a SINGLE country. We could just as easily lock ourselves up and give a big fuck you to the rest of the world. Instead, we spend our time, rescources, and risk the lives of our own men and women to assist those in need around the world.
Wherever you live, I hope you remember that when you see our national guard risking their own lives to save the lives of YOUR countrymen when their homes flood from a massive hurricane. I hope you remember that when you see OUR OWN TROOPS risk THEIR OWN LIVES to save someone like you.
The world may hate America, the world may have a shit view of us, but that hasn't stopped us has it? You may spit in our faces, but you will be spitting in our faces as we put food on the tables of millions of people around the world.
Touché, Mr. AC. Touché :-)
You know what, you're right. Fuck the rest of the world. We (America) will pull every troop out of every nation we are operating in, we will stop providing billions to the world in food, medicine, and clothing, and we will no longer respond when a natural disaster occurs.
We will put every one of our troops on our border and shoot anyone trying to get in. Anyone that want's out is free to leave. Once you leave, you cannot come back in.
We will give ZERO food and money to ANY nation. We will simply take care of ourselves, and fuck the rest of you.
America may do some horrible things, but people seem to forget the GOOD things that we do. You don't like it or appreciate it? Fine. Fuck if we care.
If we do help out, we are being nosey and putting ourselves where "we don't belong". If we DON'T help, we are being "stupid selfish Americans". Well FUCK you. No one makes us give away billions upon billions of dollars a year. NO ONE.
We have done and do fucked up things; I will never deny that. However, NEVER forget that we also do some amazing things. We help literally millions of people a day soley because we WANT to. We will gladly bow out and let the world deal with it's own problems. Just don't come crying and bitching to us when a giant wave floods your entire country or when lava buries your villages.
I will echo many of the comments already posted...I prefer buttons on my phone primarily for text messaging, if nothing else. Having actual buttons on a phone allow me to text while driving without even looking at the phone...if I want to tell someone I am going to be there in a 20 minutes or whatever, I can pick my phone up, flip it open, and do the ENTIRE operation start to finish without looking at my phone more than once (and the one time I do glance at it is to verify that I am sedning to text to the right person)
My eyes leave the road for a grand total of 1 second.
Like I said, it just seems odd that you would be behind so many games and yet of all the things coming out for the 360, Halo 3 is the only one you are excited about?
You are indeed entitled to your own opinion, it just seems odd to have an opinion in which you write off that many promising games.. Not ripping in you because you "can't get behind some games", it just seems to be doing a major disservice to yourself to write some of those titles off, especially since you want to seem to be an "accross the board" gamer