The manner in which you stated your opinion was offensive. It's obvious you disagree with that, but that won't change the fact that people are taking it that way. When you start a conversation with "Drugs are useless and anyone that gives them is a bad parent and anyone that takes them is stupid" then you'll never get a civil discourse
Where did I ever say that? Let's look at my actual quote, and not something that you made up:
I'll admit I should have used an "almost" qualifier in front of that "never", but I didn't say people were bad parents for doing so...my statement was obviously not directed at anyone, and it especially wasn't direct at someone I don't even know.
Beyond that, I was referring to medicating children under the guise of ADHD....not medicating children in general. I'll...be...sure...to spell...the...whole...thing...out...for...you...next...time.
And, to top it off, you are taking the Jenny McCarthy route in saying "see, they aren't adequately addressing the points I bring up" when it's obvious to someone with a little education that the points are unprovable, weren't proved by her in the first place, yet she's the one demanding proof, and the general indications are she's an idiot nutjob. Why should they have to prove your unsubstantiated opinion wrong? You submitted no proof yourself in the first place. So you hold others to a higher standard than yourself, and the fact that they merely match your level of evidence (argument by assertion of opinions as fact) being held against them further indicates that you are an ass who is uneducable, so why should they try?
I think you're looking into this too much. Medication makes kids zombies (which pnuema said himself in his response to me...you know, his response where he called me an asshole even though he basically said the same thing I did.) Finding kids a creative outlet for their ADHD is a much more permanent, less personality-altering way of getting things done. There isn't really anything else for me to say.
So, let's wrap things up here: I should have said "almost always", not just "always", because absolutes are generally a mistake. I'll be sure to be less offensive when giving out my opinion, since people don't seem to like waaaaaaaaaahmburgers. Lastly, If someone could get their feelings get hurt, I'll be sure to keep things to myself.
Yes, you made a joke. About a disability. Go find someone in a wheelchair, and mock them from atop a staircase, and that too will be a joke
That's the point of a joke...to laugh.
There actually is a funny one about wheelchairs, told to me by none other than my disabled cousin: What's the hardest part of a vegetable to eat? The wheelchair. Come on, dude. Jokes are jokes. Hell, I joke about myself all the time, and I laugh when other people make jokes at my expense. With me, EVERYTHING is a legit topic for a joke...I follow the South Park line of thinking: either it's all ok, or none of it is.
For everyone who has a disease that is not immediately visibly apparent: Die in a fire, you stupid insensitive piece of shit.
It's a freakin' JOKE. Christ, people...lighten up. the "ADHD MUTHA FUCKA" and the Clone High quote really didn't give it away? I realize that ADHD is a real condition, I realize that there are many people who struggle with it, and I realize there is no "one size fits all" solution.
Come on. I may be trollish and I may be rude, but I'm not stupid.
By the way, your "everyone who has a disease that is not immediately visibly apparent" applies to my own mother (horrible migraines), my own grandfather (multiple problems), and even myself (L3-L4 vertebrae fusion, bone spur on the inside of the ball-joint that attaches my leg to my hip, and knee pain without anything showing up on an xray or MRI.)
and their diagnosis was trumped by some dude married to a elementary school teacher. Nice work.
Thanks!
Just sayin' - you're an asshole. Stop it.
Asshole or no, you're the one that brought your son into this conversation, and you've continued to insult me rather than educate me about why I'm wrong (as many others have done in this Slashdot thread.)
First off, I'm glad that you've been able to do something with yourself despite that difficulty. I don't mean that in the standard boilerplate fashion...I'm truly happy for you that you've done something with yourself:-)
That being said, medicating children and medicating adults are two very different things. For myself, as a kid medication worked, but it also turned me into a bland, personality-less zombie. It was the creative output and work-oriented focus that got my ADHD under control, and to this day it's the way I still keep it under control.
I realize I'm just one person, but...well, you know.
Also, at the risk of actually being an asshole, if your kid doesn't know his own name without meds, and has all those symptoms when he IS medicated...well, I'm not a doctor, but that sounds like autism to me. Convincing yourself that it's ADHD is ignorant at best and dangerous for your son at worst.
Just sayin'.
Source: my wife is a 3rd grade Special Education teacher (Severe and Multiple disabilities)
You smugly point out that my kids has problems focusing while medicated
Let's get this out of the way. YOU are the person who brought up your kid's problems...not me. I was speaking in general terms, which you took and applied to your own son. That was YOUR doing, not mine.
Yes, you are. You are not a doctor. You are not qualified to make this statement, and you make life more difficult than it has to be for the people who really do need these meds. Stop it.
You're right, I'm not. That being said, if someone based the treatment of their child on what ONE random person online says (in a forum of all places), then they aren't fit to be parents.
You smugly point out that my kids has problems focusing while medicated. He barely knows his own name un-medicated. You have no idea so just SHUT THE FUCK UP.
Yet you do nothing to educate me...all you do is hurl insults.::golf clap::
I know that other browsers are faster, have a smaller system footprint, or are more up to the task when it comes to certain formats...but I still stand by Firefox. It's one of the few times that I "ignore" reality and continue using a product because I like it so much. I can't help it...I'm a Firefox fanboy.
I'll be getting off Mozilla's dick now...::stands::
Have you ever actually undergone an actual ADHD test & not simply a psychological evaluation? It's a battery of tests that incorporates psych evals, IQ tests, memory tests, and attention-measurement tests.
Actually, I have. I was diagnosed with it when I was 7.
not sure what test you're referring to, but regardless, you're trolling.
It's called a joke. They have those where you come from, right? I figured the "ADHD, MUTHA FUCKA!" part would have made that clear...
This is a very real condition and without educating yourself about the disorder, it's incredibly difficult to overcome
No it isn't. You just need to find something that you enjoy and is challanging. For myself, it was a combination of music, cars, and computers. Each one on its own provided numerous challanges that required alertness, attention to detail, and most importantly the ability to keep track of multiple things at once. ADHD makes multitasking a very simple affair.
ADHD isn't a disorder, it's a gift...people just don't utilize it properly.
I could go on, but really, all I wanted to do was ask that you stop your ignorant trolling.
Of course...as long as you stop assuming you know everything about people you've never met.
but the process of diagnosing ADHD would condemn just about every kid who took the test. "Doctor, doctor! My child runs around uncontrollably, can't keep his attention on one thing at a time, and doesn't like school...oh Doctor, what do I do?" "ADHD, MUTHA FUCKA!"
"Ghandi has ADD! Ghandi has ADD! You get it from toilet seats! Use a protective sheet!" Oh man, I miss Clone High...
Sheesh. You serious people, with your seriousness...you're so busy seriousizing everyone, you never stop to think about how you're seriousizing yourself.
It will be interesting to see if being smaller will fix some of the problems people have with holding the current model...I also am curious to see how battery life will be affected by this.
On one of my earlier web site versions, I had the songs up. I never checked to see how many people actually DL'd them. It'll be interesting to see how many people make their way that far to find them now though haha.
I started counting the number of downloads from my site, but only after some of the tracks had been up for a while. All my stuff is on last.fm now, so it's pointless to waste bandwidth through my host.
congrats btw (07/17/2010)
Thanks... she's one of my harshest critics as well as biggest fans:-)
You should! I find it to be very rewarding. Lord knows I've downloaded my share of music, and the kind of music that I truly love (spacey ambient) can be difficult to find. I like giving back to the community that has provided me with countless hours of listening (mainly through http://www.bluemars.org/ the world's greatest spacey ambient radio station).
In my spare time, I write for my website (and slowly peck away at a novel), I read a whole ton of books, I play a ton of video games...but none of these hobbies are as rewarding and give me as much joy as creating music that people enjoy.
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RFID really is something that needs to have an eye kept on, but sensationalist headlines make it seem worse than it is.
Of course, if you're really worried about it, there are options depending on what you need to protect.
SSD being soldered directly to a motherboard? I'm a bit torn about that idea...
Don't give them any ideas, clod!
The manner in which you stated your opinion was offensive. It's obvious you disagree with that, but that won't change the fact that people are taking it that way. When you start a conversation with "Drugs are useless and anyone that gives them is a bad parent and anyone that takes them is stupid" then you'll never get a civil discourse
Where did I ever say that? Let's look at my actual quote, and not something that you made up:
Drugging kids is NEVER the solution. The proper solution is to find a creative and/or productive output for their energy.
I'll admit I should have used an "almost" qualifier in front of that "never", but I didn't say people were bad parents for doing so...my statement was obviously not directed at anyone, and it especially wasn't direct at someone I don't even know.
Beyond that, I was referring to medicating children under the guise of ADHD....not medicating children in general. I'll...be...sure...to spell...the...whole...thing...out...for...you...next...time.
And, to top it off, you are taking the Jenny McCarthy route in saying "see, they aren't adequately addressing the points I bring up" when it's obvious to someone with a little education that the points are unprovable, weren't proved by her in the first place, yet she's the one demanding proof, and the general indications are she's an idiot nutjob. Why should they have to prove your unsubstantiated opinion wrong? You submitted no proof yourself in the first place. So you hold others to a higher standard than yourself, and the fact that they merely match your level of evidence (argument by assertion of opinions as fact) being held against them further indicates that you are an ass who is uneducable, so why should they try?
I think you're looking into this too much. Medication makes kids zombies (which pnuema said himself in his response to me...you know, his response where he called me an asshole even though he basically said the same thing I did.) Finding kids a creative outlet for their ADHD is a much more permanent, less personality-altering way of getting things done. There isn't really anything else for me to say.
So, let's wrap things up here: I should have said "almost always", not just "always", because absolutes are generally a mistake. I'll be sure to be less offensive when giving out my opinion, since people don't seem to like waaaaaaaaaahmburgers. Lastly, If someone could get their feelings get hurt, I'll be sure to keep things to myself.
If it can be engineered, it can be reverse-engineered.
Yes, you made a joke. About a disability. Go find someone in a wheelchair, and mock them from atop a staircase, and that too will be a joke
That's the point of a joke...to laugh.
There actually is a funny one about wheelchairs, told to me by none other than my disabled cousin: What's the hardest part of a vegetable to eat? The wheelchair. Come on, dude. Jokes are jokes. Hell, I joke about myself all the time, and I laugh when other people make jokes at my expense. With me, EVERYTHING is a legit topic for a joke...I follow the South Park line of thinking: either it's all ok, or none of it is.
Stop being so fucking sensitive...lighten up.
For everyone who has a disease that is not immediately visibly apparent: Die in a fire, you stupid insensitive piece of shit.
It's a freakin' JOKE. Christ, people...lighten up. the "ADHD MUTHA FUCKA" and the Clone High quote really didn't give it away? I realize that ADHD is a real condition, I realize that there are many people who struggle with it, and I realize there is no "one size fits all" solution.
Come on. I may be trollish and I may be rude, but I'm not stupid.
By the way, your "everyone who has a disease that is not immediately visibly apparent" applies to my own mother (horrible migraines), my own grandfather (multiple problems), and even myself (L3-L4 vertebrae fusion, bone spur on the inside of the ball-joint that attaches my leg to my hip, and knee pain without anything showing up on an xray or MRI.)
Again, it was just a joke. Calm the hell down.
I'm sure the army of neurologists, pediatricians, and psychologists who have seen him were all mistaken
It is possible...wouldn't be the first time.
and their diagnosis was trumped by some dude married to a elementary school teacher. Nice work.
Thanks!
Just sayin' - you're an asshole. Stop it.
Asshole or no, you're the one that brought your son into this conversation, and you've continued to insult me rather than educate me about why I'm wrong (as many others have done in this Slashdot thread.)
"Damn you, sir...AND DAMN YOUR CHAIR!" /Sealab 2021 reference
First off, I'm glad that you've been able to do something with yourself despite that difficulty. I don't mean that in the standard boilerplate fashion...I'm truly happy for you that you've done something with yourself :-)
That being said, medicating children and medicating adults are two very different things. For myself, as a kid medication worked, but it also turned me into a bland, personality-less zombie. It was the creative output and work-oriented focus that got my ADHD under control, and to this day it's the way I still keep it under control.
I realize I'm just one person, but...well, you know.
Also, at the risk of actually being an asshole, if your kid doesn't know his own name without meds, and has all those symptoms when he IS medicated...well, I'm not a doctor, but that sounds like autism to me. Convincing yourself that it's ADHD is ignorant at best and dangerous for your son at worst.
Just sayin'.
Source: my wife is a 3rd grade Special Education teacher (Severe and Multiple disabilities)
You smugly point out that my kids has problems focusing while medicated
Let's get this out of the way. YOU are the person who brought up your kid's problems...not me. I was speaking in general terms, which you took and applied to your own son. That was YOUR doing, not mine.
Yes, you are. You are not a doctor. You are not qualified to make this statement, and you make life more difficult than it has to be for the people who really do need these meds. Stop it.
You're right, I'm not. That being said, if someone based the treatment of their child on what ONE random person online says (in a forum of all places), then they aren't fit to be parents.
You smugly point out that my kids has problems focusing while medicated. He barely knows his own name un-medicated. You have no idea so just SHUT THE FUCK UP.
Yet you do nothing to educate me...all you do is hurl insults. ::golf clap::
Truly exemplary work, good chap!
He can't repeat a zip code back to you, when medicated, because he can't focus long enough.
So wait...I'm an asshole because I said medication isn't the answer?
I know that other browsers are faster, have a smaller system footprint, or are more up to the task when it comes to certain formats...but I still stand by Firefox. It's one of the few times that I "ignore" reality and continue using a product because I like it so much. I can't help it...I'm a Firefox fanboy.
I'll be getting off Mozilla's dick now... ::stands::
Have you ever actually undergone an actual ADHD test & not simply a psychological evaluation? It's a battery of tests that incorporates psych evals, IQ tests, memory tests, and attention-measurement tests.
Actually, I have. I was diagnosed with it when I was 7.
not sure what test you're referring to, but regardless, you're trolling.
It's called a joke. They have those where you come from, right? I figured the "ADHD, MUTHA FUCKA!" part would have made that clear...
This is a very real condition and without educating yourself about the disorder, it's incredibly difficult to overcome
No it isn't. You just need to find something that you enjoy and is challanging. For myself, it was a combination of music, cars, and computers. Each one on its own provided numerous challanges that required alertness, attention to detail, and most importantly the ability to keep track of multiple things at once. ADHD makes multitasking a very simple affair.
ADHD isn't a disorder, it's a gift...people just don't utilize it properly.
I could go on, but really, all I wanted to do was ask that you stop your ignorant trolling.
Of course...as long as you stop assuming you know everything about people you've never met.
But my point is, that drugging the kids is not always the solution.
Drugging kids is NEVER the solution. The proper solution is to find a creative and/or productive output for their energy.
but the process of diagnosing ADHD would condemn just about every kid who took the test. "Doctor, doctor! My child runs around uncontrollably, can't keep his attention on one thing at a time, and doesn't like school...oh Doctor, what do I do?" "ADHD, MUTHA FUCKA!"
"Ghandi has ADD! Ghandi has ADD! You get it from toilet seats! Use a protective sheet!" Oh man, I miss Clone High...
Firewalls, Torrent Slaves, Front end for a "remote desktop" style connection, small traveling computer for a hotel that has a flat screen, etc.
It was actually a graduation present from her grandmother, which just added to the hilarity :-)
Apple users will pay for anything, so long as they can get another little white Apple sticker.
My then-fiance now-wife bought an Apple sticker about a year ago and put it on her Thinkpad.
Me: "Why did you do that?" ::facepalm::
Brittnie: "Because now I get all the pretentiousness without being a broke asshole."
Me:
Calm down, nutter...I was just kidding.
Sheesh. You serious people, with your seriousness...you're so busy seriousizing everyone, you never stop to think about how you're seriousizing yourself.
I'm being totally serious.
I'd laugh...except the chances of this eventually being true are quite high -_-;;
It will be interesting to see if being smaller will fix some of the problems people have with holding the current model...I also am curious to see how battery life will be affected by this.
Not to mention pricing.
On one of my earlier web site versions, I had the songs up. I never checked to see how many people actually DL'd them. It'll be interesting to see how many people make their way that far to find them now though haha.
I started counting the number of downloads from my site, but only after some of the tracks had been up for a while. All my stuff is on last.fm now, so it's pointless to waste bandwidth through my host.
congrats btw (07/17/2010)
Thanks... she's one of my harshest critics as well as biggest fans :-)
You should! I find it to be very rewarding. Lord knows I've downloaded my share of music, and the kind of music that I truly love (spacey ambient) can be difficult to find. I like giving back to the community that has provided me with countless hours of listening (mainly through http://www.bluemars.org/ the world's greatest spacey ambient radio station).
In my spare time, I write for my website (and slowly peck away at a novel), I read a whole ton of books, I play a ton of video games...but none of these hobbies are as rewarding and give me as much joy as creating music that people enjoy.