While the article had many blundering answers from Gates & Ballmer(C)(TM), and i'm sure most have been picked apart already (450 posts!), one that caught my one was the following...
This is from the 3rd "GATES:" section from the bottom of the page:
So I certainly don't agree with the full sort of free software foundation view that there should be no jobs in this area, and that the kind of commercial advances and risk taking that we've been able to do you can't get that, you can't get things like speech recognition on a tablet computer coming out of that kind of a paradigm.
First of all, let me say... APPLE!!! ever heard of Darwin, that would be the Open Source, fuh-ree version of Mac OS X? - a mighty fine OS if you've ever taken 5 minutes to sit and enjoy it...
and Second Of All, are you implying that university professors and post-docs aren't churning out amazing, GPL'ed advances in Computer Science, like maybe those fabulous molecular modeling apps, or create neat creations like the CAVE with the help of Government and industry and not have to be a vertically integrated illegal monopoly? No Way!!! Say its not so...
Whatever what really matters is that the whole paradigm of CS changed in a matter of 3 years, and the genie is out of the bottle. Linux and Open Source apps will thrive forever now that enough people came on board and we have the attention of everyone who can spell programming.. next its Corporate America/World (my Fortune 100 company has Linux/OpenSource programs running in every corner of the buildings, and they're only picking up steam)..
then it's time to kick Bill's ass and demand a refund for a lifetime of low-grade, shitty software!
They killed my computer.. you bastards!!!
No, you've forgotten your MS history already..
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Dont you remember?
BillyG has been telling us the same thing for years:
  Bundling everything but the kitchen sink is good for consumers
Oh, except if it's not MS stuff, then f*ck it.
M$, ruining computing experiences one user at a time
I liked the last sentence, which pretty much sums up the state of things - everything innovative in the music world has been crushed by lawsuits.
Which is, of course, is exactly what the RIAA/Record Companies were trying to do.
Lawsuits have been used as weapons for decades, couple that with bank accounts that make BillG blush, and you've got powerful enemies in the Record Companies (tm).
I just love how they keep telling us we're all assholes and thieves to use Napster (nobody uses Napster or Gnutella for any legal purpose, so they say) at exactly the same time the federal government was fining (suing!) them for price goughing us on CD prices (Wall Street Journal, Fall 2000).
Regarding Red Hat's first ideas about the DB business in November 1999:
IBM and Oracle both were Red Hat investors at the time, and the database companies were among the first mainstream computing corporations to endorse the Linux operating system as a credible product. Batten said Red Hat was afraid that offering its own database software would spur the database companies to favor other Linux sellers.
In regards to Red Hat doing their own PostgreSQL distro:
However, there have been some concerns, Momjian said. Some PostgreSQL developers have been worried Red Hat will "fork" the software, taking the open PostgreSQL code and starting in a new direction of their own. And others weren't happy that the Red Hat product name apparently doesn't refer to the PostgreSQL name.
But Red Hat has been a good member of the open-source community, Momjian said, backing efforts such as GCC and Gnome, so the company isn't likely to try to appropriate PostgreSQL for its own. Momjian believes forking would be impractical as well as impolitic, and Red Hat's London offered the assurance that, "We don't intend to fork the code."
Regarding market share and competition:
Red Hat, for its part, said it's targeting not Oracle customers but corporate departments or smaller companies that need a less extravagant database. Red Hat wants customers already using PostgreSQL or MySQL, London said. ...
Great Bridge is like a cardiologist with expertise, while Red Hat is more like a general practitioner that has shallower but broader experience, Batten said.
Should prove to be interesting to watch and see what happens...
1) Whats the rush for AOL to release the new browser now that AOL is going with IE? None.
2) The release schedule in actuality has not changed. Go to mozillaquest and compare the two graphics for yourself - they only moved the 'X' further along and pushed the 1.0 grey branch down - the point releases have not been moved, hence, the production schedule remains the same.
3) I use mozilla day-in-and-day-out - i'm using it right now. It beats the sh*t out of IE. Why? Because if we have no other choice, and we all had to use IE, as soon as M$ sees no more competition, they will stop producing the crappy thing for other platforms. Oh, sorry Steve Jobs, we decided that Mac's are too difficult to support, bye. Then what would us Linux, BeOS, Sun, Amiga, HP, and others do? Stop using the web. Riiiiiiiiight. Time to swtich to Windows! What else has M$ showed over the years other than the ability to twist peoples arms and make them use Windows?
4) For the love of God, people - quit frickin' cutting our own throats. Mozilla is our ONLY major OpenSource platform for web applications. (Which, hopefully, some of you more intelligent slashdotters realise is the future of the web.) If you dont like it, download it and try it again - like now, today. If you still dont like it - SHUT UP! We could kick each other in the teeth day after day about how Redhat is more secure than LinuxPPC, or how Mandrake is better for newbies, ow what have you, but what does that accomplish? NOTHING. The best thing you could ever hopw of your competition is that they attack each other - united we stand folks, divided we fall.
Wow. This reviewer cannot possibly be the same man who, just a mere week or so ago, bagged The Mummy Returns.
Okay, so Jon goes from "Hollywood execs would do well to ponder the reality that Baldur's Gate II and Everquest are far more imaginative and skillfully done." to "it's a silly movie, but knowingly silly, and it's also entertaining and -- even, at moments -- inventive."
So, now a Knights Tale is better than the Mummy Returns? I disagree - you should switch the text for these two reivews. Jon makes it sound like were comparing a Ed Wood movie to Star Wars.
Let me get this straight, The Mummy Returns (over 84 million in ticket sales) is uninventive, over-CGI'ed and sucky, while a Fast Times at Ridgemont High/D&D ripoff, aka A Knights Tale, is fantastic and silly but inventive? Riiiiiigggghhhttt.
I dont know about you guys, but i find it hard to trust a reviewer who displays such capricious tendancies...
"I dont eat mammals." - Kimmy from Survivor 2 on eating a chicken with her tribe.
"Chickens arent mammals, duh." - Me.
Miguel - have you guys given up or is it just me?
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Ximian gets new CEO
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Okay, here goes my precious karma..
The only thing i can see that Ximian has produced to date this year are press releases and the two "big" projects started way last year - namely Red Carpet and Evolution.
Is anyone besides yourself actively involved in this project anymore? And if so, why is KDE kicking our asses in the progress department?!
Not only is GNOME falling impossibly far behind KDE in terms of in the scope and variety of apps, but we are not even updating our existing applications anymore.
And what about platforms other then i386? As a PPC-based user i cant even get Red Carpet (see it in the FTP directory anywhere?), in addition, i have not seen a single (and i'm dead serious about this) update in the Helix GNOME Updater since last year.
I have recently installed and begun using KDE 2 and i am donwright shocked as to how far they have come in the past year while we, the GNOME community, are still sitting here using GNOME 1.2.
On behalf of the hundreds of users i have encountered both on and offline, Why have the updates to Ximian GNOME stopped? And, if Ximian has chosen to abondon all PPC distros, then i would like to see the Ximian site updated to reflect this, so that we can all move to KDE (of which there are plenty of current packages available)and keep enjoying our Linux experience. And lastly, if Ximan/GNOME needs some help - why are we not asking for it?
I'm not trying to bitch too much (although i dopubt you can tell:-), but i especially feel the pain due to the fact that i am one of your application developers! I have a GNOME project on sourceforge with thousands of users, and it pains me to see them all leaving for KDE!
At this point i have no choice but to begin using kdevelop to port my GNOME app over before all my users leave me.
2) Does this sound familiar? Surge [Curl] is currently for Microsoft Windows only - Macintosh and Linux coming soon!
Translation: Windows development takes priority and we release for this platform first (versus other projects that *truly* support all platforms and develop their releases in tandem).
3) How much space?! Total installation will be ~ 17Mb depending on system configuration.
People will rush out ASAP and download this you say?
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiggggggggggggghhhhhhhtt.
Some people like to cocoon themselves in plastic wrap to crap and screw. Some fathers barter their daughters in exchange for the children of other men. Some women are looking to serve cocktails on their hands and knees at Super Bowl parties, butt plug in place. All of this became the business of our little crew.
The novelty quickly wore off of even the most unexpected combinations of words in member profiles, like "snatch fangs." Hobbies: "I like a good orange up my ass." Quote: "I'll f:u:c:k for a buck and do something strange for some change." Quote: "Stop changing your lipstick, my dick is starting to look like a rainbow." Quote: "You could drive a truck through my ass crack." The same lines appeared in thousands of profiles, the lack of originality making the task even bleaker. Hobbies: "k-9 sex, violent sex, bondage, anal, anything I'm a sub and I could be dominant too, if you are a sub email me with a fantasy and a slutty pic and I will respond to all I will cyber for anyone who can make me wet." Over and over and over.
Okay, thats it! Not like any of us couldn't have guessed this was transpiring in AOL chat rooms, but i can assure you i dont want to read anymore "inside AOL" accounts ever again, thanks.
Micro$oft chose the name.NET because.JOKE was too hard to explain to shareholders.
American Express offfers disposable card numbers to all card holders (as far as i can tell).
By simply signing in and selecting a card (for those of you with more than one:-) a normal looking card number will be generated along with an expiration date in a small window that pops up.
It's very cool, plus since it relies on Java/Javascript, so nearly all of us can use it (no doofy Window plugin req'd!)
What's stupid is the Discover Card method. They have a "disposable card number" feature, but it requires a really heinous install procedure, plus it does annoying things like create a bookmark for their site in every browser user's bookmarks file (thanks guys!). But wait, theres more! If you want to use this feature, you have to shop within a small number of stores (and i mean small, like ~50 the last time i checked).
Bottom line, disposable credit card technology is great - i've used these disposable numbers for over 6 months, and i'm totally sold on the idea. Now when i purchase something on the web, my Amex number can only be used that one time, after which it is completely invalid for charges. I'll be glad to see all Visa and MC companies follow this someday.
What is that you ask? Are we the best product for you? How do we rate against others? - Trivial questions my friend, for we are the Bor..i mean Microsoft and Resistan..er, our products are Right For You (C) no matter who you are.
Did i mention that we are the biggest software company on Earth? How dare you try and subject us to such Consumer Reports drivel!!!
Among the other problems with the March release, sources said, is that it wont take full advantage of multiprocessing systems or new video accelerators, such as Nvidias recently announced GeForce 3 or ATIs Radeon. People who have systems containing these new graphics cards may not see a speed-up of 3D or 2D graphics until support is introduced with Puma [OS X 1.1].
Okay i can see that, plus it doesnt allow us to watch DVD's. Thats it?! Like any of us use the Mac as our primary means for viewing DVD's in the first place. Big whoopie do.
Apple did what i've watched a ton of/.ers suggest Mozilla do, finish the "core" of the product, ship the damn thing, then work on the small stuff in the next release.
Kudos to Steve Jobs for still shipping the product on time (for this target at least..:-) and staving off the DVD/video issues for a few months - as the article also points out, not many programs are ready to run native under OS X (carbon) anyway, so why drop the whole release back? The lack of DVD playback is not a deal-breaker to many people, so ship the product, let us early adopters (beta testers received coupons for $30 off the $129 sticker price, BTW) use it, then continue to integrate fixes/DVD drivers as time goes on.
Go Apple, go! Now i will have two boxes that dont crash and provide a friendly terminal window on demand.
I guess i cannot blame corporations for choosing (or being bullied..?) into using this POS OS, all i'm saying is: dont expect me to shell out any hard-earned dough for something as unstable/laughable as WinCE.
I actually saw one guy's WinCE-powered handheld freeze (Gray Screen of Death?) once.. *LOL* My Palm is worth 10 times anything WinCE powered i assure you.
Just a thought..:-)
BTW: Mozilla 0.8 is mighty fly if you havent used it yet!
True, but consider this:
gEdit is all we've got outside of GLADE for app development in GNOME... a mere text editor with some authoring capabilitiess (CVS, and the like)
And that's precisely my point - gEdit (which is not a bad program at all, BTW) in no way compares to what KDE developers are using - advanced tools such as KDevelop.
So, like i said before, where are my kick ass development tools for GNOME?
Good interview - short and to the point, easy to read in 10 minutes.
Anyway, here's my $0.10:
Andreas Pour has got a good point about the development tools for KDE versus those available for GNOME. Have you guys seen KDevelop? As someone who actually develops GNOME programs, i can tell you that KDevelop does look about 10 times better than GEdit - built in dialog construction tools (a la GLADE), a quick start (read: RAD) wizard, and more!
Memory loss in this sense is a misnomer. Like some previous posters i believe that our memories may just be doing what Darwin would find obvious - shifting focus to the things more needed now days. Since we have Palms, i can devote a few more brain cells towards that damn df flag that i always forget.
And besides, what about the fact that many (if not all slashdotters!) speak over 5 or 6 languages. Lets see these doctors sit and write Perl, PL/SQL, HTML, php, C/C++, and more in a day. Oh, and know how to configure and operate dozens of disparate programs across multiple platforms - hows that for memory you quacks!!:-)
..Brent You musn't enthrone ignorance simply because there is so much of it.
While many readers have taken pains to point out that this is really a mozdev project, and others have opined that this is great or just a yawn, we may have missed the overall point here..
Since mozilla's architechture is open and documentated, we are begininng to see more and more projects (been to mozdev lately?) that are extending the traditional "web browser" into something we cannot even fully comprehend yet.
Mozilla itself may not be ready for prime time, but the *concept* of a stable base on which to build other nifty tools is.. well.. like LINUX itself.
Way to go mozilla team. Hopefully next year, we wont have to have these "its too bloated" and "no its not, its our savior" arguments anymore - we can just sit and surf like we should.
..Brent "We should not enthrone ignorance simply because there is so much of it."
Your comment makes the unwritten assumption that MS is the only way Java can be developed and/or implemented on an M$ box/databse/OS.
Borland, Metrowerks, Netscape, AOL, Whoever *CAN* produce compliant (and labeled appropriately) Java tools/apps for an M$ system. I dont see how M$, as one vendor, halts support on the entire platform. Perl and Apache run on just fine on M$, as does Java under Netscape/Mozilla (except Java on the current Linux builds, which sucks, but i digress).
The real "win" here is that MS can no longer kill Java by embracing it and essentially polluting it until its only of use to Gates and company. Maybe now we can force them to use the *correct* version.
Hey Bill: McNealy OWNZ you!!!:-)
..Brent "One musn't enthone ignorance simply because there is so much of it."
..I have been using Napster to make CD's of her record collection.
Kick ass! This is my argument for napster exactly! That is to say, while we have had numerous posts (and trolls..) regarding napster and/or associated legalities, i justify my use by pointing to my boxes (plural) of cassette tapes.
I have purchased all these Van Halen tunes i assure you (makes me wanna belt out 'Youre no good' to the RIAA, but thats another post altogether). I'm just pleased to see others subscribing to the same philosophy, and being no so nonchalant about it...
Anyway, about the main topic of this post: It's the damn laser. Everybody knows that!
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While the article had many blundering answers from Gates & Ballmer(C)(TM), and i'm sure most have been picked apart already (450 posts!), one that caught my one was the following...
This is from the 3rd "GATES:" section from the bottom of the page:
So I certainly don't agree with the full sort of free software foundation view that there should be no jobs in this area, and that the kind of commercial advances and risk taking that we've been able to do you can't get that, you can't get things like speech recognition on a tablet computer coming out of that kind of a paradigm.
First of all, let me say... APPLE!!! ever heard of Darwin, that would be the Open Source, fuh-ree version of Mac OS X? - a mighty fine OS if you've ever taken 5 minutes to sit and enjoy it...
and Second Of All, are you implying that university professors and post-docs aren't churning out amazing, GPL'ed advances in Computer Science, like maybe those fabulous molecular modeling apps, or create neat creations like the CAVE with the help of Government and industry and not have to be a vertically integrated illegal monopoly? No Way!!! Say its not so...
Whatever what really matters is that the whole paradigm of CS changed in a matter of 3 years, and the genie is out of the bottle. Linux and Open Source apps will thrive forever now that enough people came on board and we have the attention of everyone who can spell programming.. next its Corporate America/World (my Fortune 100 company has Linux/OpenSource programs running in every corner of the buildings, and they're only picking up steam)..
then it's time to kick Bill's ass and demand a refund for a lifetime of low-grade, shitty software!
They killed my computer.. you bastards!!!
Dont you remember?
BillyG has been telling us the same thing for years:
  Bundling everything but the kitchen sink is good for consumers
Oh, except if it's not MS stuff, then f*ck it.
M$, ruining computing experiences one user at a time
For the interested:
Found these pictures available at palminfocenter.com - looks great, and seems even better.. time to upgrade this Palm III!!
X-Box, coming soon to a dumpster near you.
I liked the last sentence, which pretty much sums up the state of things - everything innovative in the music world has been crushed by lawsuits.
Which is, of course, is exactly what the RIAA/Record Companies were trying to do.
Lawsuits have been used as weapons for decades, couple that with bank accounts that make BillG blush, and you've got powerful enemies in the Record Companies (tm).
I just love how they keep telling us we're all assholes and thieves to use Napster (nobody uses Napster or Gnutella for any legal purpose, so they say) at exactly the same time the federal government was fining (suing!) them for price goughing us on CD prices (Wall Street Journal, Fall 2000).
Faaaaaaaaaaaggs. - Mr. Garrison, SouthPark
Nice tidbit of info, but what is the reason(s) they are turning off the machine?
It's hyperbole to say that this is bad when it may be the case that SGI is going to replace it with a better machine or an improved program...
People say, "Jimmy, are you mad God created retarded people?", and i say, "No, i like President Bush." - SouthPark
Regarding Red Hat's first ideas about the DB business in November 1999:
In regards to Red Hat doing their own PostgreSQL distro:
Regarding market share and competition:
Should prove to be interesting to watch and see what happens...
1) Whats the rush for AOL to release the new browser now that AOL is going with IE? None.
2) The release schedule in actuality has not changed. Go to mozillaquest and compare the two graphics for yourself - they only moved the 'X' further along and pushed the 1.0 grey branch down - the point releases have not been moved, hence, the production schedule remains the same.
3) I use mozilla day-in-and-day-out - i'm using it right now. It beats the sh*t out of IE. Why? Because if we have no other choice, and we all had to use IE, as soon as M$ sees no more competition, they will stop producing the crappy thing for other platforms. Oh, sorry Steve Jobs, we decided that Mac's are too difficult to support, bye. Then what would us Linux, BeOS, Sun, Amiga, HP, and others do? Stop using the web. Riiiiiiiiight. Time to swtich to Windows! What else has M$ showed over the years other than the ability to twist peoples arms and make them use Windows?
4) For the love of God, people - quit frickin' cutting our own throats. Mozilla is our ONLY major OpenSource platform for web applications. (Which, hopefully, some of you more intelligent slashdotters realise is the future of the web.) If you dont like it, download it and try it again - like now, today. If you still dont like it - SHUT UP! We could kick each other in the teeth day after day about how Redhat is more secure than LinuxPPC, or how Mandrake is better for newbies, ow what have you, but what does that accomplish? NOTHING. The best thing you could ever hopw of your competition is that they attack each other - united we stand folks, divided we fall.
Mozilla - you're soaking in it.
I could be wrong, but who else thinks that pushing around the entire right half of a keyboard is inviting carpal tunnel syndrome?
And yeah, you will not be using this for Quake any time soon.
I just love our President - he's so not bright.
Wow. This reviewer cannot possibly be the same man who, just a mere week or so ago, bagged The Mummy Returns.
Okay, so Jon goes from "Hollywood execs would do well to ponder the reality that Baldur's Gate II and Everquest are far more imaginative and skillfully done." to "it's a silly movie, but knowingly silly, and it's also entertaining and -- even, at moments -- inventive."
So, now a Knights Tale is better than the Mummy Returns? I disagree - you should switch the text for these two reivews. Jon makes it sound like were comparing a Ed Wood movie to Star Wars.
Let me get this straight, The Mummy Returns (over 84 million in ticket sales) is uninventive, over-CGI'ed and sucky, while a Fast Times at Ridgemont High/D&D ripoff, aka A Knights Tale, is fantastic and silly but inventive? Riiiiiigggghhhttt.
I dont know about you guys, but i find it hard to trust a reviewer who displays such capricious tendancies...
"I dont eat mammals." - Kimmy from Survivor 2 on eating a chicken with her tribe.
"Chickens arent mammals, duh." - Me.
Okay, here goes my precious karma..
:-), but i especially feel the pain due to the fact that i am one of your application developers! I have a GNOME project on sourceforge with thousands of users, and it pains me to see them all leaving for KDE!
The only thing i can see that Ximian has produced to date this year are press releases and the two "big" projects started way last year - namely Red Carpet and Evolution.
Is anyone besides yourself actively involved in this project anymore? And if so, why is KDE kicking our asses in the progress department?!
Not only is GNOME falling impossibly far behind KDE in terms of in the scope and variety of apps, but we are not even updating our existing applications anymore.
And what about platforms other then i386? As a PPC-based user i cant even get Red Carpet (see it in the FTP directory anywhere?), in addition, i have not seen a single (and i'm dead serious about this) update in the Helix GNOME Updater since last year.
I have recently installed and begun using KDE 2 and i am donwright shocked as to how far they have come in the past year while we, the GNOME community, are still sitting here using GNOME 1.2.
On behalf of the hundreds of users i have encountered both on and offline, Why have the updates to Ximian GNOME stopped? And, if Ximian has chosen to abondon all PPC distros, then i would like to see the Ximian site updated to reflect this, so that we can all move to KDE (of which there are plenty of current packages available)and keep enjoying our Linux experience. And lastly, if Ximan/GNOME needs some help - why are we not asking for it?
I'm not trying to bitch too much (although i dopubt you can tell
At this point i have no choice but to begin using kdevelop to port my GNOME app over before all my users leave me.
1) It's a damn browser plug-in.
2) Does this sound familiar?
Surge [Curl] is currently for Microsoft Windows only - Macintosh and Linux coming soon!
Translation: Windows development takes priority and we release for this platform first (versus other projects that *truly* support all platforms and develop their releases in tandem).
3) How much space?!
Total installation will be ~ 17Mb depending on system configuration.
People will rush out ASAP and download this you say?
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiggggggggggggghhhhhhhtt.
Some people like to cocoon themselves in plastic wrap to crap and screw. Some fathers barter their daughters in exchange for the children of other men. Some women are looking to serve cocktails on their hands and knees at Super Bowl parties, butt plug in place. All of this became the business of our little crew.
The novelty quickly wore off of even the most unexpected combinations of words in member profiles, like "snatch fangs." Hobbies: "I like a good orange up my ass." Quote: "I'll f:u:c:k for a buck and do something strange for some change." Quote: "Stop changing your lipstick, my dick is starting to look like a rainbow." Quote: "You could drive a truck through my ass crack." The same lines appeared in thousands of profiles, the lack of originality making the task even bleaker. Hobbies: "k-9 sex, violent sex, bondage, anal, anything I'm a sub and I could be dominant too, if you are a sub email me with a fantasy and a slutty pic and I will respond to all I will cyber for anyone who can make me wet." Over and over and over.
Okay, thats it! Not like any of us couldn't have guessed this was transpiring in AOL chat rooms, but i can assure you i dont want to read anymore "inside AOL" accounts ever again, thanks.
Micro$oft chose the name .NET because .JOKE was too hard to explain to shareholders.
American Express offfers disposable card numbers to all card holders (as far as i can tell).
By simply signing in and selecting a card (for those of you with more than one :-) a normal looking card number will be generated along with an expiration date in a small window that pops up.
It's very cool, plus since it relies on Java/Javascript, so nearly all of us can use it (no doofy Window plugin req'd!)
What's stupid is the Discover Card method. They have a "disposable card number" feature, but it requires a really heinous install procedure, plus it does annoying things like create a bookmark for their site in every browser user's bookmarks file (thanks guys!). But wait, theres more! If you want to use this feature, you have to shop within a small number of stores (and i mean small, like ~50 the last time i checked).
Bottom line, disposable credit card technology is great - i've used these disposable numbers for over 6 months, and i'm totally sold on the idea. Now when i purchase something on the web, my Amex number can only be used that one time, after which it is completely invalid for charges. I'll be glad to see all Visa and MC companies follow this someday.
Seen the amihotornot All Your Base site yet?
Hi, where would like to go today?
What is that you ask? Are we the best product for you? How do we rate against others? - Trivial questions my friend, for we are the Bor..i mean Microsoft and Resistan..er, our products are Right For You (C) no matter who you are.
Did i mention that we are the biggest software company on Earth? How dare you try and subject us to such Consumer Reports drivel!!!
Sincerely, Bill Gates
From the article:
Among the other problems with the March release, sources said, is that it wont take full advantage of multiprocessing systems or new video accelerators, such as Nvidias recently announced GeForce 3 or ATIs Radeon. People who have systems containing these new graphics cards may not see a speed-up of 3D or 2D graphics until support is introduced with Puma [OS X 1.1].
Okay i can see that, plus it doesnt allow us to watch DVD's. Thats it?! Like any of us use the Mac as our primary means for viewing DVD's in the first place. Big whoopie do.
Apple did what i've watched a ton of /.ers suggest Mozilla do, finish the "core" of the product, ship the damn thing, then work on the small stuff in the next release.
Kudos to Steve Jobs for still shipping the product on time (for this target at least.. :-) and staving off the DVD/video issues for a few months - as the article also points out, not many programs are ready to run native under OS X (carbon) anyway, so why drop the whole release back? The lack of DVD playback is not a deal-breaker to many people, so ship the product, let us early adopters (beta testers received coupons for $30 off the $129 sticker price, BTW) use it, then continue to integrate fixes/DVD drivers as time goes on.
Go Apple, go! Now i will have two boxes that dont crash and provide a friendly terminal window on demand.
Sig line? We dont need no stinking sig line!!
Bleck.. WinCE?!
I guess i cannot blame corporations for choosing (or being bullied..?) into using this POS OS, all i'm saying is: dont expect me to shell out any hard-earned dough for something as unstable/laughable as WinCE.
I actually saw one guy's WinCE-powered handheld freeze (Gray Screen of Death?) once.. *LOL* My Palm is worth 10 times anything WinCE powered i assure you.
Just a thought.. :-)
BTW: Mozilla 0.8 is mighty fly if you havent used it yet!
make hemorrhoids bigger, make driving on the freeway a little slower, and make the tapwater taste a little more like ass.
Ahh, technology marches on.
True, but consider this:
gEdit is all we've got outside of GLADE for app development in GNOME... a mere text editor with some authoring capabilitiess (CVS, and the like)
And that's precisely my point - gEdit (which is not a bad program at all, BTW) in no way compares to what KDE developers are using - advanced tools such as KDevelop.
So, like i said before, where are my kick ass development tools for GNOME?
Puh-lease, software bundling for the purpose of trying and kill a competitor only applies if you have a 95% market share.
Good interview - short and to the point, easy to read in 10 minutes.
Anyway, here's my $0.10:
Andreas Pour has got a good point about the development tools for KDE versus those available for GNOME. Have you guys seen KDevelop? As someone who actually develops GNOME programs, i can tell you that KDevelop does look about 10 times better than GEdit - built in dialog construction tools (a la GLADE), a quick start (read: RAD) wizard, and more!
Shit, i'd kill for this tool in GNOME/GTK...
Memory loss in this sense is a misnomer. Like some previous posters i believe that our memories may just be doing what Darwin would find obvious - shifting focus to the things more needed now days. Since we have Palms, i can devote a few more brain cells towards that damn df flag that i always forget.
And besides, what about the fact that many (if not all slashdotters!) speak over 5 or 6 languages. Lets see these doctors sit and write Perl, PL/SQL, HTML, php, C/C++, and more in a day. Oh, and know how to configure and operate dozens of disparate programs across multiple platforms - hows that for memory you quacks!! :-)
..Brent
You musn't enthrone ignorance simply because there is so much of it.
While many readers have taken pains to point out that this is really a mozdev project, and others have opined that this is great or just a yawn, we may have missed the overall point here..
Since mozilla's architechture is open and documentated, we are begininng to see more and more projects (been to mozdev lately?) that are extending the traditional "web browser" into something we cannot even fully comprehend yet.
Mozilla itself may not be ready for prime time, but the *concept* of a stable base on which to build other nifty tools is.. well.. like LINUX itself.
Way to go mozilla team. Hopefully next year, we wont have to have these "its too bloated" and "no its not, its our savior" arguments anymore - we can just sit and surf like we should.
..Brent
"We should not enthrone ignorance simply because there is so much of it."
Your comment makes the unwritten assumption that MS is the only way Java can be developed and/or implemented on an M$ box/databse/OS.
Borland, Metrowerks, Netscape, AOL, Whoever *CAN* produce compliant (and labeled appropriately) Java tools/apps for an M$ system. I dont see how M$, as one vendor, halts support on the entire platform. Perl and Apache run on just fine on M$, as does Java under Netscape/Mozilla (except Java on the current Linux builds, which sucks, but i digress).
The real "win" here is that MS can no longer kill Java by embracing it and essentially polluting it until its only of use to Gates and company. Maybe now we can force them to use the *correct* version.
Hey Bill: McNealy OWNZ you!!! :-)
..Brent
"One musn't enthone ignorance simply because there is so much of it."
Well, too bad they will probably have to filter this article judging by some of our past slashdot stories!
Go librarians go!
Not Off Topic, just an observation:
Kick ass! This is my argument for napster exactly! That is to say, while we have had numerous posts (and trolls..) regarding napster and/or associated legalities, i justify my use by pointing to my boxes (plural) of cassette tapes.
I have purchased all these Van Halen tunes i assure you (makes me wanna belt out 'Youre no good' to the RIAA, but thats another post altogether). I'm just pleased to see others subscribing to the same philosophy, and being no so nonchalant about it...
Anyway, about the main topic of this post: It's the damn laser. Everybody knows that!
:-) ..Brent