Absolutely agree, and for all the reasons you stated. It's bad enough the customer's time has been wasted while you are examining their computer (not that you are wasting their time, but the malware is). Worse is then having to waste the time to restore their systems to the custom configurations because the system has been restored to factory settings.
The RIAA is the best argument in the world why you SHOULD be buying music -- NON-RIAA MUSIC
Well said. Although I do not purchase a great deal of music, or generally make music available online, I'd still prefer to support companies that treat their customers fairly over those who don't.
By "overshadowed", I was referring to functionality, not popularity; WordPerfect's WYSIWYG is so perfectly functional, I never have to "Print Preview" to know what I'm getting, even working in "Draft" mode, as I always do. I definitely agree with you that Word has become the popular standard, despite being a putrid rancid POS.
I know what the WYSIWYG reference was in relation to, I just wanted to point out that Word's failure has been overshadowed by something that works. Besides which, in word, it's more accurate to call is WYSBYGI (What You See But You Get Instead; which was invented by a friend of mine to describe Word's mediocre attempts).
WYSIWYG? Sort of. They've still not gotten it right.
Yet WordPerfect 7 introduced functional WYSIWYG and Print Preview only exists in WordPerfect 9 because it's still necessary in Word (and besides, I can edit in Print Preview). I still use WordPerfect 9 for my own projects, primarily because it is so useful for doing anything practical (I never have to worry about assumptions, I can see all the codes used within the document using 'Reveal codes', and I can delete them manually).
I would like to point out that my father wrote a gazetteer of the state of Utah in the late 90's, which I helped him publish in late 2000, completely using WordPerfect (he wrote it in WordPerfect but a lot of the typing was done as if he were working on a typewriter, so we had to do a lot of editing). The output looks professional, and we fixed all my father's mistakes in about four months, which would have been nearly impossible in Word (the individual volumes, a total of three, are around three hundred pages each).
I've stopped reading his posts; they're almost all trolls and flaimbait that gets modded up for some reason. There are several others who are similar, but in my opinion, I feel he's one of the worst.
Not exactly on topic, but not entirely irrelevant, is that MSBASIC had several absurd bugs, one of the most annoying being ASC("") returned an illegal quantity error instead of a 0, forcing code to include arguments like A=0: IF (A$"") THEN A = ASC(A$) instead of just A=ASC(A$). This particular bug was apparently programmed by Bill Gates himself (he is said to have programmed all the non-mathematic runtime 'stuff'; I wasn't able to find the source for this, but I remember reading it a few months back). So yes, MSBASIC was certainly inferior.
I can't say I remember the first Far Side I read, but I do remember the one that made me laugh the hardest. It's the one with a drawing of a woman walking through the woods with a vacuum cleaner, and the caption reads something to the effect that Alice walked down the path warily because "Nature abhors a vacuum."
Oddly, Seinfeld (the show) was considered groundbreaking, despite the fact Monty Python had already produced "Monty Python's Flying Circus", which was technically about nothing, but, in my opinion, much funnier; sketches ultimately go no where, but consistently focus on elements that are actually funny alone. Almost every prank Seinfeld pulled (such as the 'backward' episode) had been done by Monty Python's Flying Circus before, and Monty Python also did things Seinfeld never considered, such as episodes where they ran the closing credits early (once even at the very beginning, just after the opening titles), then continuing on with more material.
Don't know which version of KDE (Ubuntu 9.10 in a virtual machine I'm using to test it), but the task bar crashed when I tried shutting it down today (mistakenly, since I couldn't tell what feature the damn dialog was talking about). I've used Gnome as my exclusive desktop since shortly after installing Ubuntu 7.4 (when I first tried KDE) because KDE functions too much like Windows (which, in my opinion, has one of the worst overall designs of all time; I'm much more comfortable using Gnome, despite the absence of a few features I'd prefer having). That, and I've rarely had Gnome crash on me, either, and never in the past two years, unless I've tried something my drivers aren't properly written for.
Ditto. I've seen this rumor that the executive tweeted the assembly calling them back, but I've yet to see a single link to anything supporting the rumor, and a few comments even providing potential refutation. Sounds to me like we've got a bunch of anti-*AA shills trying to hurt this executive's image without evidence to support their claims. (Not that I know whether or not Def Jam Records is part of the RIAA).
Just as a gag, based on a string of comments made on an earlier date about Google vs. Bing, I typed "2^2^2^2" into Google, Bing, Wolfram|Alpha, and Yahoo. Google, Wolfram|Alpha, and Yahoo all provided the correct answer of 65536 (2^(2^(2^2))), while Bing provides 256 (((2^2)^2)^2). That alone makes Bing's search results less reliable than the others, in my opinion.
What makes this Flamebait? This is a simple observation, nothing more. And also, I disagree with those who are comparing upgrading a browser to regular car maintenance; updating the browser is more like regular maintenance, since appearance and interface do not change between updates, while upgrades can change both, and should therefore be compared more to a new year of an old model.
Well written; I only wish I hadn't posted earlier so I could moderate, so this will have to do.
I might also add stupidity/incompetence to your list; very similar to ignorance and bad training, but more of a combination between the two. One great example is a sales person who tries to explain something they have no clue about, but neither know they are 'making shit up,' nor were 'trained' to spew the BS; sort of a Frank Burns (the incompetent M*A*S*H doctor) in sales (terrified shutter)!!!
I have to go to computer stores with my Dad when he tries to buy something simple like an ethernet cable or a power strip or he'll come home with a Cisco switch and an APC rackmount battery backup.
This will stop me from moderating on this discussion, but my brother and I won't let our Dad do any computer component shopping (not that he would try if we let him; he'd probably come home with a typewriter). That, and our Mom won't go computer shopping without us.
This is the second time this week I've come across an anecdote that was moderated using something that made no sense whatsoever. Whomever marked this as flamebait needs to get a grip on reality. (Just because you take offense at something someone says doesn't mean they meant to hurt your feelings.)
This statement is not off topic. You might consider it a troll or flamebait (which I, personally, disagree with), but it most certainly is not irrelevant to the subject at hand.
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Absolutely agree, and for all the reasons you stated. It's bad enough the customer's time has been wasted while you are examining their computer (not that you are wasting their time, but the malware is). Worse is then having to waste the time to restore their systems to the custom configurations because the system has been restored to factory settings.
I second this assertion. The GP should definitely be modded up insightful or informative.
Well said. Although I do not purchase a great deal of music, or generally make music available online, I'd still prefer to support companies that treat their customers fairly over those who don't.
Ooh, I so wish I had mod points, not that a few of your other posts on this thread haven't already earned you some well deserved positive karma.
That is the most sensible manner of viewing god's intentions, in my opinion, and the best response I've read on this thread so far. Thank you.
My kingdom for a mod point. That's better than my definition for Comcastic: "Your screwed, no matter what you do".
By "overshadowed", I was referring to functionality, not popularity; WordPerfect's WYSIWYG is so perfectly functional, I never have to "Print Preview" to know what I'm getting, even working in "Draft" mode, as I always do. I definitely agree with you that Word has become the popular standard, despite being a putrid rancid POS.
I know what the WYSIWYG reference was in relation to, I just wanted to point out that Word's failure has been overshadowed by something that works. Besides which, in word, it's more accurate to call is WYSBYGI (What You See But You Get Instead; which was invented by a friend of mine to describe Word's mediocre attempts).
Yet WordPerfect 7 introduced functional WYSIWYG and Print Preview only exists in WordPerfect 9 because it's still necessary in Word (and besides, I can edit in Print Preview). I still use WordPerfect 9 for my own projects, primarily because it is so useful for doing anything practical (I never have to worry about assumptions, I can see all the codes used within the document using 'Reveal codes', and I can delete them manually).
I would like to point out that my father wrote a gazetteer of the state of Utah in the late 90's, which I helped him publish in late 2000, completely using WordPerfect (he wrote it in WordPerfect but a lot of the typing was done as if he were working on a typewriter, so we had to do a lot of editing). The output looks professional, and we fixed all my father's mistakes in about four months, which would have been nearly impossible in Word (the individual volumes, a total of three, are around three hundred pages each).
I've stopped reading his posts; they're almost all trolls and flaimbait that gets modded up for some reason. There are several others who are similar, but in my opinion, I feel he's one of the worst.
Not exactly on topic, but not entirely irrelevant, is that MSBASIC had several absurd bugs, one of the most annoying being ASC("") returned an illegal quantity error instead of a 0, forcing code to include arguments like A=0: IF (A$"") THEN A = ASC(A$) instead of just A=ASC(A$). This particular bug was apparently programmed by Bill Gates himself (he is said to have programmed all the non-mathematic runtime 'stuff'; I wasn't able to find the source for this, but I remember reading it a few months back). So yes, MSBASIC was certainly inferior.
I thought I'd look it up, so here's the link.
http://groupkos.com/eso/tiki-browse_image.php?imageId=96
Oddly, Seinfeld (the show) was considered groundbreaking, despite the fact Monty Python had already produced "Monty Python's Flying Circus", which was technically about nothing, but, in my opinion, much funnier; sketches ultimately go no where, but consistently focus on elements that are actually funny alone. Almost every prank Seinfeld pulled (such as the 'backward' episode) had been done by Monty Python's Flying Circus before, and Monty Python also did things Seinfeld never considered, such as episodes where they ran the closing credits early (once even at the very beginning, just after the opening titles), then continuing on with more material.
This is one of the funniest, yet also insightful comments I've seen in a long time.
Don't know which version of KDE (Ubuntu 9.10 in a virtual machine I'm using to test it), but the task bar crashed when I tried shutting it down today (mistakenly, since I couldn't tell what feature the damn dialog was talking about). I've used Gnome as my exclusive desktop since shortly after installing Ubuntu 7.4 (when I first tried KDE) because KDE functions too much like Windows (which, in my opinion, has one of the worst overall designs of all time; I'm much more comfortable using Gnome, despite the absence of a few features I'd prefer having). That, and I've rarely had Gnome crash on me, either, and never in the past two years, unless I've tried something my drivers aren't properly written for.
Ditto. I've seen this rumor that the executive tweeted the assembly calling them back, but I've yet to see a single link to anything supporting the rumor, and a few comments even providing potential refutation. Sounds to me like we've got a bunch of anti-*AA shills trying to hurt this executive's image without evidence to support their claims. (Not that I know whether or not Def Jam Records is part of the RIAA).
Just as a gag, based on a string of comments made on an earlier date about Google vs. Bing, I typed "2^2^2^2" into Google, Bing, Wolfram|Alpha, and Yahoo. Google, Wolfram|Alpha, and Yahoo all provided the correct answer of 65536 (2^(2^(2^2))), while Bing provides 256 (((2^2)^2)^2). That alone makes Bing's search results less reliable than the others, in my opinion.
What makes this Flamebait? This is a simple observation, nothing more. And also, I disagree with those who are comparing upgrading a browser to regular car maintenance; updating the browser is more like regular maintenance, since appearance and interface do not change between updates, while upgrades can change both, and should therefore be compared more to a new year of an old model.
Good point. Nice comeback.
Or maybe because that would show the world how slowly they develop their software?
Neat anecdote; so how did he take your joke (I like Doctor Winchester, too)?
Well written; I only wish I hadn't posted earlier so I could moderate, so this will have to do.
I might also add stupidity/incompetence to your list; very similar to ignorance and bad training, but more of a combination between the two. One great example is a sales person who tries to explain something they have no clue about, but neither know they are 'making shit up,' nor were 'trained' to spew the BS; sort of a Frank Burns (the incompetent M*A*S*H doctor) in sales (terrified shutter)!!!
This will stop me from moderating on this discussion, but my brother and I won't let our Dad do any computer component shopping (not that he would try if we let him; he'd probably come home with a typewriter). That, and our Mom won't go computer shopping without us.
This is the second time this week I've come across an anecdote that was moderated using something that made no sense whatsoever. Whomever marked this as flamebait needs to get a grip on reality. (Just because you take offense at something someone says doesn't mean they meant to hurt your feelings.)
This statement is not off topic. You might consider it a troll or flamebait (which I, personally, disagree with), but it most certainly is not irrelevant to the subject at hand.