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Comcast Shoots For New Image, Rebranding As Xfinity

artemis writes "Comcast is making efforts to repair and restore its 'former glory' by the act of transformation, rebranding itself as Xfinity. Hopefully step 2 is an actual change in quality and customer service. 'Comcast will use the Xfinity rebranding to talk up its improved customer service as well as its technical upgrades. “There’s a lot to be proud of,’’ said Steve Hackley, Comcast’s senior vice president for the Greater Boston region. “We want to take credit for it.’’ W2 Group’s Weber said such a rebranding is “a bit old-fashioned’’ and a new name is unlikely to impress consumers. “I think the public is smarter than that now,’’ he said.'"

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  1. Xfinity equals... by aardwolf64 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Xfinity = the amount of time you'll be on hold if you call Customer Service.

    1. Re:Xfinity equals... by binarylarry · · Score: 2, Insightful

      More like XTarded, never again will I use comcast.

      NEVER AGAIN.

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    2. Re:Xfinity equals... by pitchpipe · · Score: 4, Funny
      I think that their marketing guys have been reading too much Slashdot!

      1. Change name to Xfinity.
      2. ???
      3. Profit!

      What a great business plan!

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    3. Re:Xfinity equals... by timeOday · · Score: 1

      This was on The Office too! Remember "Dunder Mifflin Infinity," the brainfart of "whiz-kid" Ryan?

    4. Re:Xfinity equals... by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 1

      Xfinity = how long it will take for your "network congestion profiled" P2P packets to arrive.

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    5. Re:Xfinity equals... by sgilti · · Score: 1

      That is quite literally why I will never be a Comcast customer again. Even though they went door-to-door as the first fiber carrier in my neighborhood, and AT&T isn't here yet.

    6. Re:Xfinity equals... by Evil+Shabazz · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Eh, it's not like Comcast is any worse that TimeWarner. In fact, if you can believe it - cable/internet got a ton WORSE in Southern California when TimeWarner took over for Comcast here. TimeWarner has just as crappy hold times, just as incompetent tech support, and don't worry - when you leave, they'll intentionally charge you for your returned hardware even though you returned it.

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    7. Re:Xfinity equals... by Conchobair · · Score: 3, Funny

      Xnfinitely stupid move.

    8. Re:Xfinity equals... by RobDude · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'm not sure why Comcast gets so much hate. Maybe it depends on the local market you are in?

      I've called Comcast a handful of times and I've always had very short waits and someone who speaks and understands English.

      The most recent call was because of poor signal quality. I spent about 10 minutes on the phone and they sent out a tech the next day. The tech showed up, ran a new line and then took the time to properly attached the cable line to my house; it was a major improvement.

      After that, internet worked great again.

    9. Re:Xfinity equals... by nmb3000 · · Score: 1

      What is it about current marketting groups that somehow destines them to come up with the worst possible name, especially when re-branding something? Xfinity? Oh wow, it starts with X and has 'infinity' in it! Pure win! That name is so bad I'd almost cancel my Comcast service just so I don't have to hear it again (to be fair, I've had really good luck with Comcast. It's only been down once in about 5 years and speeds are usually great).

      Reminds me of the line in Wormhole X-Treme!:

      With the X, I know what you are thinking. It's a marketing thing. You see, I wanted to call the show `Going to other planets' but research says that shows with X in the name get better ratings.

      I can see the commercials already: "Prepare for X-treme Internet access. Our X-cellent service will go X-traordinary lengths to serve you!"

      Blegh.

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    10. Re:Xfinity equals... by Lumpy · · Score: 5, Interesting

      News flash: They all intentionally suck when there is no direct competition.

      The ONLY places I have seen cable not suck is the rare community where there are two cable providers. Most of the time the likes of Comcast search out a franchise agreement with the city to make competition "illegal" or very expensive.

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    11. Re:Xfinity equals... by gad_zuki! · · Score: 1

      Name me one big ISP or telco that isnt incompetent. I have been fighting with AT&T to get uverse without the video and they more or less told me. After several angry calls I finally got one person who would let me (after putting me on hold for 20 mins and being transfered 5x) and then on top of it all gave me another hard sell for the video service when I asked if they could minimize the downtime between DSL shutoff and uverse install. At that point I just hung up and called Comcast.

      Comcast's phone number is published everywhere, unlike AT&T hiding theirs. A human answered in less than a minute and the cost was maybe 5 dollars more than the equivalent uverse package. They asked me for video service, I said no thanks, and that was it.

      At this point in the game, Comcast isnt the worst out there. Probably AT&T residential is the worst while Comcast is upping its game (disclosing its cap, DOCSIS 3.0, more customer support agents, decently priced business services, 50mbps rollouts, etc)

    12. Re:Xfinity equals... by plague3106 · · Score: 1

      Comcast gets so much hate BECAUSE THEY FUCKING SUCK. I think at this point I'd rather slit my wrists than have to pay them again.

      And I strongly believe they are the ones pushing for bad solutions to my citys fiber network, including a proposal to sell it (gee, I wonder WHO would buy it? Comcast, just having taken over Adelphia? Na!).

    13. Re:Xfinity equals... by gninnor · · Score: 1

      Mod parent up.

      It seems that you can have one or the other. The lack of competition means that as long as they do the absolute minimum, people will pay for the only option available. The FCC, which never should have been allowed outside of the airwaves, seem more concerned about trying to censor things than creating a competitive market. I live in metropolitan area with main population of 479,000. We have the choice of Comcast cable, or high speed over the phone. Because the wiring is so old for phone in my apartment, that means cable only.

    14. Re:Xfinity equals... by PinkFreud · · Score: 1

      Eh, it's not like Comcast is any worse that TimeWarner. In fact, if you can believe it - cable/internet got a ton WORSE in Southern California when TimeWarner took over for Comcast here. TimeWarner has just as crappy hold times, just as incompetent tech support, and don't worry - when you leave, they'll intentionally charge you for your returned hardware even though you returned it.

      I beg to differ. Comcast tried to charge me for the cable box I returned. The poor customer service rep sounded a bit befuddled when he verified that the equipment had been returned, while a bill was generated anyway.

      In the end, *all* ISPs suck.

    15. Re:Xfinity equals... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And what do you bet they'll say "and now you can pick between two carriers- that's competition baby!"

    16. Re:Xfinity equals... by Hes+Nikke · · Score: 1

      Actually, this one doesn't. Of course they require a phone line and cost more ontop of that. Let's just say that while you pay more for the same product as AT&T, you get some fantastic customer service. My only association with sonic.net is that I used to be a subscriber. I switched to [del]Comcast[/del] Xfinity because they're faster, but i miss the customer service. :(

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    17. Re:Xfinity equals... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nice.

      Or xfinity could be the time that it takes them to complete an order. In two months, I will have been on the install list for three years! I live in Bellevue, WA two blocks from Expedia's new building and four blocks from a new Microsoft building. It's not as if I live in the middle of nowhere.

    18. Re:Xfinity equals... by brian0918 · · Score: 1, Insightful

      There does not necessarily have to be existing competition. Even the threat of competition - ie, a totally free market - should set them straight. Unfortunately city governments provide them with an enforced monopoly on internet services.

    19. Re:Xfinity equals... by Pharmboy · · Score: 1

      Try using bittorrent (for any reason) for a month or two, then come back and tell us how great they are.

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    20. Re:Xfinity equals... by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 2, Informative

      I'm not sure why Comcast gets so much hate. Maybe it depends on the local market you are in?

      Yes, this is exactly their problem.

      I'm here on a beautiful 16/2 connection that always rocks. I've seen a 5-minute outage at 4:30AM once. It's former Adelphia territory.

      But if you go 60 miles away, everybody who only has Comcast just hates it. You'll hear similar bipolar stories from all over.

      They seem unable to find their winning processes and replicate them into company-wide success. Perhaps they should spend more money on business process management and quality measures and less on branding?

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    21. Re:Xfinity equals... by supernova87a · · Score: 5, Informative

      I have to add my experience with TimeWarner idiocy here.

      About a year ago I called their technical support line on behalf of my aunt in NYC, who had just gotten their HD upgrade or something I don't recall, and the picture was missing the red portion of the signal. (note that your reading that last sentence, there wasn't much room for misunderstanding, was there? You can understand the situation I'm describing, right?)

      The conversation began badly, and went downhill from there:

      Me: "Hi, we seem to be having a problem with our HD cable signal -- the picture is missing the red channel, so everything looks a little bit blue. I've tested this by swapping out the cables from the RGB (whatever it was), reversing them, so I think it's definitely a problem with your cable box, not our cables or our TV. Can you help me with that?"

      Her: "sorry sir, looking in your channel lineup, I don't see any Red Channel."

      Me: @#$!%#@

      Me: regathering politeness, and for the next 20 minutes: "Sorry, I must not have explained that well -- you know how the tv signal has red/green/blue parts? Well, it seems to be missing the red part, so that the color is off."

      Her: "no sir, I don't understand, and please, don't fiddle with the cables, please follow my instruction to turn the unit off and reset it."

      after 20 minutes:

      Me: "Maam, you don't seem to have the technical knowledge to even understand the problem I'm having -- could you please transfer me to someone who does."

      10 more minutes of me getting angry that she won't transfer me. Followed by my filing a complaint with a request to be called back. I get called back, the guy on the line understands the problem immediately, and sends someone out the next day.

      I cannot stand incompetence that doesn't recognize itself. And that a customer service assistance unit would staff its helpline with someone of such stupidity.

      The other thing I learned -- don't get frustrated with stupidity, just leave. Politely hang up (there's no sense in angering yourself, or offending the moron) and call back until you get someone who knows what they're talking about. And I'm not just talking about with cable companies, I've discovered that this applies about life in general....

    22. Re:Xfinity equals... by NitroWolf · · Score: 1

      Eh, it's not like Comcast is any worse that TimeWarner. In fact, if you can believe it - cable/internet got a ton WORSE in Southern California when TimeWarner took over for Comcast here. TimeWarner has just as crappy hold times, just as incompetent tech support, and don't worry - when you leave, they'll intentionally charge you for your returned hardware even though you returned it.

      I don't want to defend Time Warner, because I'm sure they are as sucktastic as Comcast for the most part... but here in Kansas, Time Warner has been almost universally excellent in their service for providing Internet. At least that's been my experience since they started offering cable modems here back in the early 2000's. The speed has always been fast and the advertised speed has always matched the actual speed I've received. Customer service, at times was a little shaky but I've not had to call them very often so it's not been a problem.

      A couple years after getting my cable modem service, I had some issues with the noise floor, and it did take several months to work out, but in TW's defense, they did just about everything they could to solve the problem. Ultimately, I knew it was a head end problem having worked in the cable modem industry prior to my move to Kansas, but of course no one at the help desk knew a wit about what was going on, so explaining to them what the problem was was completely useless. They sent out tech after tech to check the lines in my house, the cable modem, the computers, etc... but of course the noise floor was always way out of spec. They went so far as to dig up my yard and installed a ridiculously large cable (RG6 Flooded maybe?) from the box to my house to try to fix the noise floor... well, of course it didn't work. After talking with the techs that got sent out and finally getting a senior tech out, I was able to talk to her (she was pretty cute, too and her name was Raven, go figure)... anyway, she understood what I was saying, went back to corporate and eventually the problem was solved by replacing a card in the head end... exactly like I said at the beginning. The few times I have called them since then, when the tech looks at my cable modem noise specs he wonders if something is amiss because the connection is so good, I just laugh internally.

      Anyway, my point is that Time Warner here in Kansas has been great - the quality of the cable modem service has been excellent - the price, meh... not so much. But I can't complain when I floor my 17 Mb/sec connection for days on end and they never complain. I don't do that so much anymore, but when I do download large files, I always seem to get about 1.5 - 1.7 MB/sec transfer rates. Outages are minimal (usually only during exceptionally heavy rains). TW is the only cable provider in the area, so it's an added bonus that they actually keep their infrastructure updated and running around here with no competition.

      I contrast this to my parents, who are stuck with Comcast and how crappy their service is. If I were stuck with what they are stuck with, I would have probably have switched to DSL or something, just to stay away from Comcast. Strangely, TW is able to provide, at least to me, unlimited bandwidth for whatever I want, but Comcast isn't able to provide my parents with even their rated speed... and if they use even a fraction of their rated speed for more than an hour or so, they are cut down to dial up modem speeds for awhile. It's totally ridiculous. From that experience alone, I would never, ever, ever choose Comcast were I to move into one of their markets.

    23. Re:Xfinity equals... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If it's really important to you, spend the extra $40-50/mo. and get Time Warner Business Class. I've been using it for about three or four years, and I couldn't be happier. Your support calls don't get routed to India. I've spoken to the guys in the NOC a couple of times after reasonably proving my case for escalation. And the first level support techs are good.

      Recently, I had a brief outage that we could not figure out, and they promptly set me up to roll a truck that would be there within 4 hours. I didn't have to ask. The outage resolved itself, perhaps there was a lineman in my neighborhood messing with stuff, so they didn't have to come.

      Even more recently, I moved, and after the install, which was up and running just fine, a supervisor came by afterward to inspect the installation. This is standard QA procedure for them now. He decided to move a ground wire off the gas main (there was an existing ground point that some jackass maintaining the house installed) to the actual cold water.

      I'm fairly certain you get exactly none of that service with consumer-level products from them. Is $500-600 a year a hefty premium? Not really when I can avoid spending a few hours on hold, and dealing with incompetent techs over the course of the year.

    24. Re:Xfinity equals... by Yosho-sama · · Score: 1

      Xfinity = Because Infinity^x is the only way to measure how badly we suck.

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    25. Re:Xfinity equals... by Rewind · · Score: 2, Informative

      I'm not sure why Comcast gets so much hate. Maybe it depends on the local market you are in?

      It does seem to be very much where you live. I have had awesome luck with Comcast. Only had to call customer service once and they were out there the next day, replaced my modem and everything was just fine. Speed is great (well for US cable anyway). I have tried both the local Knology and AT&T, and both cost more for slower speeds.

      However I have a friend who lives about 20 minutes away who has Comcast and his is awful. The speed makes it almost unusable between 4-6pm. Goes down every other day for an hour or so. Just where you live. Same with any ISP in my exp.

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    26. Re:Xfinity equals... by Pharmboy · · Score: 1

      I know the horror stories about Time Warner, but here in the Triad (north central NC) I have had good luck with them over the years. All three homes I have owned were out of town, and now I live WAY from town but served by them. The first place, we got a petition to get them to run cable for the whole neighborhood, took 6 months, which isn't bad. All 3 locations I have gotten better than advertised speeds, never a throttle, and yes, I download a great deal and constantly work from home. My current town (25k people) has stiff competition from the local phone company but the other two didn't have any real competition. I have had a few cable boxes stop working but they replaced them. Twice in the new home, the cable didn't work right but a tech was out the next day, after 6pm at our request. So they have had hardware issues, but they don't make the hardware. When I call, I usually get a human in 5 minutes (+/- 5 minutes), which isn't great, but it isn't bad. Their prices are not exactly cheap, but I seldom have network downtime, even in bad weather. I know their reputation is terrible in most places, but we have been pretty lucky here. Not perfect, but very reasonable service.

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    27. Re:Xfinity equals... by Solarhands · · Score: 1

      I have Time Warner in Ohio, and yes they are completely horrible. They probably have the worst set top boxes available, and it is usually better to drive to the local store for customer service than to wait on the phone, regardless of the issue. I highly doubt customer service could be any worse with another company. But based on what I've seen, I am very happy not to have Comcast.

      I used to play WoW, and the vast majority of people with connection problems were always Comcast users. It got to the point where we used the term "Comcasted" instead of disconnected. Comcast users D/Ced individually and as a group. Often we would lose a healer or a tank to a Comcast D/C. There were several times when we would lose large chunks of Comcast people. They were the only ISP that I have ever noticed being so blatantly plagued by connection issues. I think that their network must be mismanaged, both on a local and a national level.

      As a whole the DSL connections seemed most stable.

    28. Re:Xfinity equals... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sadly I would have to disagree with this. Where I live I have a choice of two cable providers. One sucks really bad and the other has had good service so far. The difference, the crappy cable company has the cable internet while the good cable company only has DSL. I use to have the crappy company. They were once a great company, local and small. Then a large company purchased them and turned them to shite. Our rates doubled and my static IP mysteriously disappeared. Once the rates doubled, I sacked them. I called them and told them they were fired for sucking so bad. For months I received calls trying to get me to switch my service back. Those poor souls that made those unknowing calls got an ear full of every technical problem and billing problem I ever had along with the glowing reports of the great service I receive from my new provider. Then I would ask them which they would choose. None of them picked their company.
      Internet is through a 3rd company and is wireless PPoE and has been amazing. I feared that bad weather would effect our service but it has not. Granted our speeds are nothing near the cable speeds. But honestly we have not noticed much of a drop in web speed. If we do notice a speed problem it is because of the site itself and not the network.

    29. Re:Xfinity equals... by mudkip1123 · · Score: 1

      Xfinity = tiny fix
      Xfi nity
      fix tiny
      tiny fix

    30. Re:Xfinity equals... by LBt1st · · Score: 1

      T-Mobile

      I'm sure someone will reply with their horror story but they've been good to me. Sadly, I can't name a second company.

    31. Re:Xfinity equals... by TaoPhoenix · · Score: 1

      It might be stupid focus group materials conducted in malls. I did one once. The respondents get handed a FIXED list of names and a hopeless list of questions.

      "Possible names:
      XFinity
      QuanTastic
      HolDelpheron
      AmeriVerse

      Please list the name that best describes a company aiming to reach for the stars and deliver new heights of unsurpassed customer service".

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    32. Re:Xfinity equals... by hedwards · · Score: 1

      It's probably because they'll have the cable modem service out for several hours every day and one not know and two not care enough to fix it. And the fact that there cable television service for the longest time was less viewable on certain channels than using a TV without an antenna downstairs for local broadcasts.

      If they actually cared enough to address your concern you should count yourself lucky, because around here they would have to actively work at caring less about the customer because standard apathy isn't going to reach that level of incompetence. It's not really a shock that satellite dishes are popping up around here with such frequency. DirecTV in particular actually called my parents up because their monitoring software indicated that the services was probably not living up to their standards. (For the record it actually still beat the pants off of Comcrap, but caring about quality earns points with me especially when their standards are higher than mine)

    33. Re:Xfinity equals... by Fjandr · · Score: 1

      Xfinity = the amount of time you'll spend dialing because the hold system disconnects you every time you make it through the Customer Service menu.

    34. Re:Xfinity equals... by gad_zuki! · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I call BS on this. Usually a duoploy is just as bad as a monopoly. Considering the cost of rolling out cable, a lot of providers wont enter a market because what happens is a natural monopoly or duopoly forms. Both carriers exceed at poor service and slow upgrades because they know the government wont intervene.

      Ironically, its the government with its line sharing laws that forced the competition to actually get off their laurels. Forcing telcos to sell service to third parties helps the consumer, thats how excellent ISPs like Speakeasy can even exist. So youre 100% wrong. The problem in telcos isnt the regulation its the lack of regulation and the lack of more line usage buying enforcement.

      Not to mention, regulation was put there to curb corporate abuse not to limit corporate growth. A lot of what youre railing against was put in because these companies were doing an ever poorer job for the consumer.

    35. Re:Xfinity equals... by karnal · · Score: 1

      ATT DSL tech:

      "okay, click start"

      "ummmhmm"

      "run"

      "ummhmmm"

      "type cmd and then hit enter"

      "yup"

      "Type in IPCONFIG and hit enter. What do you get?"

      "Nothing, the modem has no lights on it and appears to be fried, as I told you before......"

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    36. Re:Xfinity equals... by HermMunster · · Score: 1

      My only response has to be, must be, and is: it isn't going to work.

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    37. Re:Xfinity equals... by jitterman · · Score: 1

      News flash: They all intentionally suck when there is no direct competition.

      I can provide testimony to that. I'm in a southern state, and for a long while Cox Cable was the only cableTV and broadband provider. When AT&T began offering both here as well, the quality that Cox provided for both services (speed and reliability of the broadband network, and number/quality of television offerings) did go up noticeably. I couldn't say about customer service specifically - haven't had to call in over four or five years. But I would imagine that's a good indicator though.

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    38. Re:Xfinity equals... by tigerhawkvok · · Score: 1

      Having moved from Comcast to Time Warner (Berkeley to San Diego) in the past 9 months, I've got to say that Time Warner spends less time crapping out on me and I've not noticed throttling nearly as much (though both still happen). It's kinda like moving from radioactive diarrheal turd to a kinda funky smelling plant. I'd switch in a heartbeat to a better option, but they don't compare at all.

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    39. Re:Xfinity equals... by Stevecrox · · Score: 1

      I match your unknowing incompetence and raise you rudeness. Try Sky Broadband, Over the Christmas holidays my parent's internet was simply cut. After phoning them I discovered it was because one of the PC's was apparently spewing spam. As it happened I'd been cleaning up my families PC and discovered one had been infected with something or other (leaving me to take a bigger interest in the rest and to implement a local user policy for each family member, amongst other things).

      While I was on the phone the Sky representative didn't understand the reason for the block and was completely unable to explain it. What made it worse is he continuing condescending attitude she gave while giving conflicting and misleading statements. After twenty minutes of calmly holding my temper and turning shades of red, I worked out what she was going on about. I informed her I'd taken care of the matter the day before. She was having none of that and stated unless we took our PC's to PC World (words can't describe how inept they are) and got PC World to contact them after they reformatted them she wouldn't remove the block. After asking to speak to their tech department/boss and another five minutes of, "look I understand thats your policy and you can't do anything I would like you to move me to someone who might be able to..." and her refusing to I eventually gave up informed the woman she was incompetent, I would be making a compliant and hung up the phone.

      After calling a second time and getting the same response and the exact same unhelpful attitude I called a third time stated I was from PC World and I'd resolved the issue. Ten minutes after that call we had broadband.

      When it came to making a compliant I asked Sky what they thought they were doing by simply disconnecting people. I was informed my Dad had been informed by email, apparently the email was sent at 9am the day they disconnected (they disconnected at 10am). They informed me the email was sent to the account holders sky email account. I then pointed out my Dad hadn't created one and so where had they sent it? She couldn't answer. I then read their Fair and Acceptable Usage to them and asked where they thought in that they could demand that users should reformat their PC's. She basically responded that Sky needed to do these things. I pointed out they were in breach of their terms of service and I would be reporting them to OfCom. At no point did myself or my Dad receive an apology, this is from the UK Broadband supplier The Gadget Show stated had the best service in the UK.

    40. Re:Xfinity equals... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You wouldn't get "nothing" from running IPCONFIG as instructed: If your computer was directly connected to the modem, then IPCONFIG would most likely show that the adapter's IP address was set to something in the 169.254.0.0/16 range, probably 169.254.0.1. Windows supports Automatic Private IP Addressing, and if the modem were dead, would fall back to using that once the DHCP request wad timed out without a response.

      If your computer was connected to a NAT/Router and it was handling DHCP for the devices that communicate to the Internet through it, as is the most common home configuration these days, then IPCONFIG would have returned the address that had been assigned by that DHCP server.

      Neither are "nothing" by any definition of which I am aware.

    41. Re:Xfinity equals... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      IMMEDIATELY request to speak to a supervisor--and be sure they do not transfer you, but stay on the line to be sure it completes. If they say no--get their rep id or as much as they'll give you, and inform them in no uncertain terms that you will be writing a complaint with the time, number, place of the call and all title information you can get--and indicate you will request their termination not just for unsatisfactory service, but for being openly hostile on the call. They have in effect, called you an idiot when they didn't escalate it as requested.

      Remember--the feelings of the moron don't matter--they're wasting your time--and it's the organization and structure that encourages them to do so, all so they can save 50 cents by somehow keeping you on the phone for four hours. If that doesn't work, ask to be transferred to the retention department--and tell them in no uncertain terms that they have 60 minutes to get you a competent tech, or you will cancel the account and refuse payment for this month (and all installation fees), as the service advertised wasn't provided. I've often started with the words "breech of contract for implied warranty of merchantability" -- if they ask if they're talking to a lawyer, just tell them to solve the problem or the call you're recording will be used as evidence of the fact that they refused to address the issue.

      I've found that you get a lot better responses when you start with deadlines of "the stopwatch started 2 minutes and thirty seconds before this call began with the last rep that transferred me to you. In 57 minutes I will notify [company rep] to cancel all service. You may put me on hold if you need to, but that time counts. You may get a supervisor if you need to, but that time counts. I will not call back--but my number is xxx... if the line is dropped. Now--this is the problem...."

      Yeah--it's a really rude, aggressive way to go about it--and it stresses out some poor tech--but it wouldn't be necessary if they'd just man up and provide quality customer care. You do of course--have to be willing to hit the button and cancel your account (or in my case, 200...).

    42. Re:Xfinity equals... by dwillden · · Score: 1

      I have to agree with this. I have good service with them, the few times I've had connectivity problems they sent out a tech who found and fixed the problem, all at no cost to me. It may help that I own the cable router rather than rent it.

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    43. Re:Xfinity equals... by brkello · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I understand your frustration but your expectations are way way too high at that level of support. Talking about color channels will just confuse them. You have to talk "dumb" to them and they have to follow their script. This is how you would have to say it:

      "Hi, my picture looks funny." They then read from their script and do the things you have already done. You can't do it out of order, or they get lost. Then finally. "Ok, it looks like it is a problem on our end, I'll send someone out."

      I know that sucks for us people who are technical...but it makes sense. No one with real technical experience is going to work that job. We would all get better paying ones elsewhere. Just have to know how to talk to them to minimize how long you are on the phone with them.

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    44. Re:Xfinity equals... by dwillden · · Score: 1

      I use bit-torrent all the time. It works great. Back when they were using sandvine it wasn't so hot, and I was looking for an alternate, but not anymore. I could get equally fast speeds but not at the price, and I'd have to get a digital converter box or something in order to watch any TV if I did drop it.

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    45. Re:Xfinity equals... by Sir_Lewk · · Score: 1

      Not that I disagree with your message, but with such convoluted logic I could probably arrive at cat == dog.

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    46. Re:Xfinity equals... by Martin+Blank · · Score: 1

      You get that with any first level tech support. Almost all of them are tracked on the number of calls that are sent on to second level support, and penalized if that number goes too high. I've managed to talk my way through to a third-level tech, who was able to diagnose the problem at the time to an issue at the cable plant, and while she waited for diagnostics to run, we chatted very casually about the cable infrastructure. Within 30 minutes, my signal was much better.

      That was with Adelphia before the Time-Warner buyout. Time-Warner's quality seems to vary depending on the call center that one gets. The SoCal folks really don't know much, it seems, but I've talked to a call center where the first person to pick up the phone was able to provide a quick diagnosis and get a field tech scheduled (I know he was out of the area because he had to call the SoCal facility to get it scheduled). The field tech pinned it down to old cabling coming into the apartment, and three days later, a crew came out to dig a trench and run new cable, this time in a conduit (the previous had been laid directly in the earth). Total time to complete fix was six days, including the weekend.

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    47. Re:Xfinity equals... by seeker_1us · · Score: 3, Interesting
      If you have a real problem, and have done diagnosis, do not waste time with first line.

      90% of first line tech support are idiots because 90% of calls are from idiots whose problems can be solved with simple scripts.

      I've had this problem with Comcast alot.

      "Hi comcast, please activate my cable modem. Here is the MAC address."

      "OK, please run this webpage and it will set it up for you" (note webpage works only for Windows and Mac).

      "I use Linux, please set the modem up for me."

      "We only support Windows and Mac Operating Systems."

      "Listen to me because I'm only going to say this once. I do not want you to support my operating system. I am paying you to provide TCP/IP protocol service. You do not need to know what my operating system is. Go and configure my cable modem now. If you do not know how to do your job, find someone who does."

      (Idiot taken aback because he/she has a response that the flowchart doesn't include.) "Ummm... please hold on a minute"

      Two minutes later "OK we have your cable modem configured now."

    48. Re:Xfinity equals... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You may not have customer service, but at least you have internet service. I'm currently signed with Comcast cable on a 20 mb/s plan and have been getting dial-up speeds for nearly a year now. I've had two different tech guys come by who poke around, replace hardware, and "fix" the connection for a few weeks, until it drops to a crawl again.

      Before that, when it wasn't so awful, the best speed I saw was 400 kb/s on a direct download from a fast server. But I figured that was normal.

    49. Re:Xfinity equals... by Evil+Shabazz · · Score: 1

      See, I had exactly the opposite experience. Comcast worked just fine for me for the entire time I had it - not one outage, not one problem. Never even had to call tech support, and installation went smooth a could be. Then Time Warner came in, and my connection started dropping every night, and my cable TV would go snow (not even the Guide was available) every evening. Contacting TW's tech support is a joke. Their first and second tier are complete incompetent yahoo's who wouldn't know Windows from OS X.

      So, as I said in my original and as others have said in response - all the major cable players are shit. My only real point was, Comcast isn't the only one that sucks and you have just as good a chance of having a bad experience with any of the others.

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    50. Re:Xfinity equals... by bmatt17 · · Score: 1

      It's been a few years since I used T-Mobile. Had cell/text package. Called them up told them I didn't want text anymore and to shut it off. So what do they do, they start charging me for every text message sent TO me. Called them up again and asked why I was being charged for wrong # text messages that kept getting sent to me and they said they couldn't turn off the text messages and that I'd have to keep paying for them. Fuck T-Mobile

    51. Re:Xfinity equals... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I cannot stand incompetence that doesn't recognize itself.

      Yes. I want to kill myself, too.

    52. Re:Xfinity equals... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
      I don't live in the US, but I've watched an ad on the intertubes that made use of the catchphrase "comcastic".

      Any move that gets them away from that is a noble move.

    53. Re:Xfinity equals... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Congrats to Supernova87a, for speaking truth and wisdom about life.
      When I'm in traffic on the analog superhighway (just like the web only with cars) and there is a crazy driver nearby, cutting me off and such, I slow down and let him take his problems with his mother somewhere else. Maybe even the cops will catch him. But it won't be by me.

    54. Re:Xfinity equals... by HereIAmJH · · Score: 1

      The ONLY places I have seen cable not suck is the rare community where there are two cable providers.

      Roadrunner service sucks there too. I live in a community that has service from Time Warner and CenturyLink. At the beginning of November my internet speeds dropped to 30kbps. I took their modem in and exchanged it. No speed increase, but the old one had been rebooting itself. I finally got a tech to come out on a Sunday. It was the only I could be here since I was working 6 days a week, and they don't do evenings. He connected to the cable and declared it was noise on the node, nothing he could do and would escalate to maintenance.

      On Thanksgiving I managed to get another tech on site. RR claimed node problem was fixed, but speed was still slow for me. He slapped some new terminals on the end of some cables outside and replaced the 2' long cable from the wall plate to the modem. And declared all was fine. I had good speed for ONE WEEK. All through December I got no support, and they mysteriously forgot about the service credit that was promised in November. Mid January I delivered all their equipment to their store and told them politely where they could stick it.

      I was a customer for over 15 years, 9 of them at this location. And from very early on I was happy with the service when it worked, but felt like shutting it all off when I had to deal with their support staff.

      Before I'd do business with Time Warner again I'd dig out my old Courier and reinstall a land line. Compared to the service they were giving me when I disconnected, it would be just as fast and much more reliable.

      The only thing local competition is getting you is a monthly fee $10 less than the competition. Time Warner's poor service is a systemic belief that the problem is ALWAYS the customers fault. If Comcast is truly addressing that, its a good thing, no matter what cheesy name they give it.

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    55. Re:Xfinity equals... by HereIAmJH · · Score: 1

      Here are some hard earned lessons from dealing with Time Warner tech support. If you can isolate a specific piece of their equipment that has failed, disconnect it and take it to one of their cable stores for replacement. Rarely do they even ask what is wrong, and if they do it's simply to have something to put on the exchange tickets.

      I used to have those cheap modems fail every year or two. When I was a TW tech support newb, I used to call them to find the problem, which means 30 minutes of going through scripts before they would agree to roll a truck. Later, I found they could remotely access the modem. So as quickly as I could I would get them to log into mine and check. They can check signal strength and error count. If it's signal strength then schedule a service call. If its errors, politely hang up and take the modem to their store for exchange.

      With the last round of cable modems (no name boxes from china) I would check when it was last replaced. If it was over a year and the modem was acting strange I would simply exchange it.

      As far as having a tech that won't transfer to a higher level, if they refuse then asked to be transferred to a supervisor. If again they refuse, take their name and call back and go to billing and ask to speak with Escalations. You can get to management, but they may be of no help either. If you aren't prepared to disconnect, avoid threatening to do so. But something they hate almost is much is having to roll a truck. If you have the patience to waste half a day waiting for them and a week to have a free appointment, make them send someone. It costs them money. Oh, and ask for a credit for down time.

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    56. Re:Xfinity equals... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      but Xfinity and tiny fix have the same letters

    57. Re:Xfinity equals... by karnal · · Score: 1

      That's very understandable, mister anonymous. As the post appears to have flown over your head, I was making a direct comment about how I've had experience with level 1 technicians that in my mind I had presented a reasonable fault domain for resolution, only to have to go by the predetermined script....

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    58. Re:Xfinity equals... by thickdiick · · Score: 1

      Grow some balls and take control of the situation. Don't waste your time. Don't go through the motions for no reason. Getting angry? That's so 1980s. Tell them exacly what you did, what the problem is, and what you expect. Politeness is being firm and curt.

      Hanging up and calling back is something a woman would do. That's low-status. A real man is busy and get things done. He doesn't have time for charades.

    59. Re:Xfinity equals... by thickdiick · · Score: 1

      The aforementioned post cannot be lauded enough. Bravo.

  2. Yeah, and Blackwater is now called Xe. by EWAdams · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It ain't gonna help, guys. You're still in seriously deep trouble.

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    1. Re:Yeah, and Blackwater is now called Xe. by BlueBoxSW.com · · Score: 5, Funny

      Still, it's nice of these broken companies to move themselves to the end of the phone book.

    2. Re:Yeah, and Blackwater is now called Xe. by dunezone · · Score: 4, Funny

      Whats a phone book?

    3. Re:Yeah, and Blackwater is now called Xe. by wizardforce · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Phone book (n): A giant slab of shredded tree that can be used to prop open the basement door.

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    4. Re:Yeah, and Blackwater is now called Xe. by rockNme2349 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Due to an unsuccessful rebrading, Xfinity will be rebrading themselves to !Xfinity, a name which they believe will boost their popularity tremendously in customer popularity and poor string sorting algorithms.

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    5. Re:Yeah, and Blackwater is now called Xe. by Yvan256 · · Score: 1

      Never mind that. What's a phone?

      Wait, never mind that either... what's a book?!

    6. Re:Yeah, and Blackwater is now called Xe. by frosty_tsm · · Score: 1

      Phone book (n): A giant slab of shredded tree that can be used to prop open the basement door.

      Phone book (n): A giant slab of shredded tree that randomly appears on your door step once a year.

    7. Re:Yeah, and Blackwater is now called Xe. by dcollins · · Score: 2, Informative

      Counterpoint: Altria (Phillip Morris)

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    8. Re:Yeah, and Blackwater is now called Xe. by Arancaytar · · Score: 1

      I sense a xommon xeme.

    9. Re:Yeah, and Blackwater is now called Xe. by Smooth+and+Shiny · · Score: 1

      Not to mention their pricing. Seriously... at this point, I am seeing an increase in my monthly statement every 3-4 months. Some new charge or other. In the last few months, they've removed several channels from the package that I have and INCREASED the price. This is why people hate them and being in the part of Boston I am in, I have no choice.

    10. Re:Yeah, and Blackwater is now called Xe. by straponego · · Score: 1

      Wait, so Xe is Blackwater-- the raping, massacring, fraudulent, Christian-crusader, genocidal war profiteers?

    11. Re:Yeah, and Blackwater is now called Xe. by stevenvi · · Score: 1

      They give us new ones every other month around here. And I don't even pay for the phone company's service!

    12. Re:Yeah, and Blackwater is now called Xe. by svtdragon · · Score: 1

      I, for one, welcome our new Xebranded overlords.

    13. Re:Yeah, and Blackwater is now called Xe. by syntheticmemory · · Score: 1

      Still, it's nice of these broken companies to move themselves to the end of the phone book.

      The last call before you go to your Public Library and find something good.

    14. Re:Yeah, and Blackwater is now called Xe. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Phone book (n): A giant slab of shredded tree that randomly appears, in multiple copies, from multiple sources, on your door step twice a year.

    15. Re:Yeah, and Blackwater is now called Xe. by plague3106 · · Score: 1

      uh, if its once a year how is it randomly?

    16. Re:Yeah, and Blackwater is now called Xe. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did the comcast exec's work for SCIFI (syfy) too?

      http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/16/business/media/16adcol.html

    17. Re:Yeah, and Blackwater is now called Xe. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Phone book (n): A giant slab of shredded tree that can be used to prop open the basement door.

      I'm not allowed to prop open the basement door. My Mom gets upset when the smell drifts upstairs.

    18. Re:Yeah, and Blackwater is now called Xe. by Hes+Nikke · · Score: 1

      I think they used to call PDFs 'books'

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    19. Re:Yeah, and Blackwater is now called Xe. by Perp+Atuitie · · Score: 1

      But this is different. They had so much to be proud of that they had to start pretending they were somebody else. Only Xfinity was big enough to bear the volume of all the goodness they were so proud of.

    20. Re:Yeah, and Blackwater is now called Xe. by drjoe1e6 · · Score: 1

      No, that will totally screw up the slashdot tag system. How will we know that a post is NOT about the company, !!Xfinity ?

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    21. Re:Yeah, and Blackwater is now called Xe. by Tumbleweed · · Score: 1


      Wait, so Xe is Blackwater-- the raping, massacring, fraudulent, Christian-crusader, genocidal war profiteers?

      Yes. They added the 'x' so they could be more xTreme (to the maX).

      (This posting brought to you by GoldenPalace.com!

    22. Re:Yeah, and Blackwater is now called Xe. by VValdo · · Score: 1


      Still, it's nice of these broken companies to move themselves to the end of the phone book.

      They don't all do that though.

      Andersen Consulting. Fucked up ENRON. Moved up slightly in the alphabet to Accenture.

      A much-maligned tobacco company became Altria.

      ValuJet. Rebranded as AirTran.

      GMAC banking just rebranded itself as Ally Bank.

      W

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    23. Re:Yeah, and Blackwater is now called Xe. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Probably because it is a different day or month each year?

    24. Re:Yeah, and Blackwater is now called Xe. by GIL_Dude · · Score: 1

      Did they do the same thing to you in Boston that they did here in the SF bay area of California? Forced us to digital even though the digital conversion the Govt. mandated didn't apply to cable? Reduced the service level and increased the prices (I have 6 tuners in the house and they all worked for all channels before, but now with the digital force out I have 5 comcast boxes - 2 masters and three little ones which cost more than I paid before, but only gave me 5 tuners). The 6th tuner - an older TV in the garage that I use when on the treadmill - now only gets to channel 29 because of the digital force comcast pulled. Oh, and the channels? Three of them are Mexican (Mexican Spanish) and three are some form of Chinese. Like I want to pay for that!!!

    25. Re:Yeah, and Blackwater is now called Xe. by PixetaledPikachu · · Score: 1

      Phone book (n): A giant slab of shredded tree that randomly appears on your door step once a year.

      Once a year is not really random

    26. Re:Yeah, and Blackwater is now called Xe. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's a basement?

    27. Re:Yeah, and Blackwater is now called Xe. by gentoofu · · Score: 1
    28. Re:Yeah, and Blackwater is now called Xe. by brkello · · Score: 1

      Yeah. Though maybe they can pull a Dominoes. Our product sucks and we knew it! Now we made it not suck so try it again!

      I haven't tried it yet. Did they actually remove the suck?

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    29. Re:Yeah, and Blackwater is now called Xe. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Must have been invented by my mom... she's always trying to find a way in here.

    30. Re:Yeah, and Blackwater is now called Xe. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dang. I was ALMOST off crawl, too! Now this has made me remember Xom...

    31. Re:Yeah, and Blackwater is now called Xe. by dissy · · Score: 1

      Yeah. Though maybe they can pull a Dominoes. Our product sucks and we knew it! Now we made it not suck so try it again!

      I haven't tried it yet. Did they actually remove the suck?

      I just was informed of that very commercial by a friend last weekend (Well, 8 days ago)

      The four other people there actually all said it is better and they like it now. Big improvement.
      I even tried some too after enough arm twisting.

      Personally, while it tasted different from what I remember, the cheese still appeared to look and feel the same plasticy texture as before, and the sauce still tastes like an ashtray with a distinct aftertaste of stabbing my tongue.

      Please note however, I am not the best person to take 'food flavor' advice from, as I lost my sense of smell as a child. I am more than willing to admit it might just be me :}

    32. Re:Yeah, and Blackwater is now called Xe. by Mistakill · · Score: 1

      Due to an unsuccessful rebrading, Xfinity will be rebrading themselves to !Xfinity, a name which they believe will boost their popularity tremendously in customer popularity and poor string sorting algorithms.

      i think theyd choose iFinity to be honest

    33. Re:Yeah, and Blackwater is now called Xe. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Arthur Andersen (the Accounting Firm) spawned Andersen Consulting nearly 20 years before the Enron mess. Andersen Consulting was completely separate and had changed their name years previous to that mess as well... but don't let facts get in the way of a good rant.

    34. Re:Yeah, and Blackwater is now called Xe. by VValdo · · Score: 1

      Arthur Andersen (the Accounting Firm) spawned Andersen Consulting nearly 20 years before the Enron mess.

      You're right. I confused the parent ("Arthur Anderson") with its spinoff ("Anderson Consulting"). Whoop-de-doo. I conflated the virtually identical names of two closely-tied business units, both of whom worked with Enron during the period of accounting crimes leading to scandal and subsequent implosion (source).

      Andersen Consulting was completely separate

      Arthur Anderson's consulting division did not even split until 1989- only twelve years (not 20) before the DISCOVERY of Enron's crimes, and existed in partnership with Arthur Anderson (the accounting firm), not becoming fully-independent companies until after arbitration involving the Chamber of Commerce which concluded in August, 2000. (source) So they weren't "completely separate" during the period when the mess was occuring at all.

      and had changed their name years previous to that mess as well..

      Wrong again. The name change to "Accenture" occurred in January 2001 while ENRON was committing crimes. Again, the name change was January 2001. ENRON did not go bankrupt until late 2001. So yeah, they managed to change their names months, not years, before the mess was publicly discovered, but not before it happened.

      . but don't let facts get in the way of a good rant.

      A "rant"?! Please. For crying out loud, I was making a point about companies rebranding to names that start with the letter "A".

      Grow up.

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    35. Re:Yeah, and Blackwater is now called Xe. by MachineShedFred · · Score: 1

      Yeah, phone books are a relic from a past era, and should be put out to pasture.

      Sincerely,

      TV Guide

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  3. And Yet.... by GabriellaKat · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I still can't wait for Verizon FIOS to be available in my neighborhood. I loathe Comcast. Its not just that their internet service is shoddy, but even my TV service has shown visual lag and dropping way too often.

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    1. Re:And Yet.... by Simulant · · Score: 1

      As much as I also loath Comcast, they have never even come close to delivering the horribly bad customer service I got from Verizon. Be careful what you wish for.

    2. Re:And Yet.... by KingSkippus · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I still can't wait for Verizon FIOS to be available in my neighborhood.

      Verizon? Sure, that would be nice, but what I can't wait for is Google's gigabit to the home service.

      You know, even if Google itself doesn't roll out to all markets, I really think this could be a game-changer. Anyone else here remember pre-Gmail days, when your ISP or a service like Hotmail may give you all of a whopping 5 MB or so for free, and we were told that that was a lot?

      Google came along and said, "Screw that. You get a GIGABYTE." The webmail world changed, and now, any webmail service that gives you less than a gigabyte or so of storage is antiquated.

      Point is, is Google starts rolling out gigabit to the home, other Internet services will move to catch up. Not so much because of the immediate competition, since Google's market will probably be very small to start with, but so that they won't look like antiquated idiots, offering a server that is literally orders of magnitude slower than what's available out there to others.

    3. Re:And Yet.... by MickyTheIdiot · · Score: 1

      Yeah.. I agree with that. I filled out their form and suggested the city in Indiana where I live. We have the choice between Comcast Cable Modem and Verizon DSL and that's it (except for Satellite, but that really isn't a possibility for us). My folks have Verizon DSL and they see brief outages at least weekly. My Comcast service is reliable as long as you keep your speed down below some undocumented level. But if you have a torrent that goes to fast it cuts out and requires the cable modem to be rebooted. It's very ridiculous.

      Google could get into that market and change the rules like they have with other services. They have a better than average chance of doing it, too, but Google Buzz shows that they are still human.

    4. Re:And Yet.... by Whatanut · · Score: 1

      Why wait. You can get free service from google tooday. http://www.google.com/tisp/

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    5. Re:And Yet.... by gtall · · Score: 1

      I don't want to plug Verizon but I just switched from Comcast to Verizon FIOS. I'm a Mac person but surprisingly, it wasn't too hard to connect once you learn to ignore the Verizon tech they send to connect you up.

      First Verizon runs fiber up and down the street, then if you sign up, they run copper from the street to the cable splitter Comcast had on the outside of my house. They cut the Comcast cable and connect theirs, so now they running their stuff through the coax you have in your house. They also connect up the phone box they have outside the house (I got the triple play option...TV, phone, internet). They drill a hole in your house and connect up a battery to the phone box outside so if you lose power, you get several hours of phone use.

      They put a settop box near your TV, connect that up and then the network box. The tech they send will know nothing about Macs. They will give you a password you will type into airport. They will neglect to tell you that case matters, in fact they will tell you the opposite. Their password must be entered in upper case and you cannot change it. (Maybe if you call them).

      I've not tested throughput for internet connection but it seems relatively fast for my browser. There probably are not enough people connected up to test the system under any sort of load.

    6. Re:And Yet.... by Derek+Pomery · · Score: 1

      When Verizon Fios arrived in our area, I signed up happily. Canceled after one weekend.

      Why? Well. They lied to me. I asked repeatedly. "Do you block ports?"

      Over and over, multiple representatives, they told me. "No, we do not."

      Well. They do. Their justification that I eventually got after going to tier 2 tech support for blocking ports I use on my little home server (25, 53, 80, 443) is that it is to encourage upgrade to the incredibly expensive business plan. Is why those folks on Verizon Fios tend to use 8080, and get blocked at particularly hardcore firewalls (you know, those ones that only allow through 80 and 443).

      I'm just fine w/ my Comcast service. They leave me alone, they don't block ports, their terms of service say I can a server for personal reasons and they don't care.

      It costs me $50 a month for high speed with the digital cable channels I care about included (Comedy Central, Cartoon Network, Discovery, etc). And changing channels isn't ridiculously sluggish like it was w/ the Fios netbox.

      Oh, and if anyone suggests it was perhaps due to the Verizon router that I had the port blocking, I actually had them activate the ether drop, and plugged a laptop directly into the external box. The ports were still blocked.

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    7. Re:And Yet.... by Macrat · · Score: 1

      I still can't wait for Verizon FIOS to be available in my neighborhood.

      I keep hearing people say they are waiting for this... Does it actually exist?

    8. Re:And Yet.... by ifrag · · Score: 1

      I keep hearing people say they are waiting for this... Does it actually exist?

      I have heard of people actually getting it, and even claiming that it works for them. However in my experience, even getting the advertisement for FIOS in the mailbox does not have any connection to FIOS actually arriving in the neighborhood. I called them up, explained that since they were advertising in the area it would make sense to have the service on the way, and was told nothing was being done to bring it to my area. Verizon offered me DSL.

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  4. Let's play the Slashdot Drinking Game by axl917 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Take a swig for every post titled "Meet the new boss..." or "Lipstick on a pig".

    1. Re:Let's play the Slashdot Drinking Game by Kell+Bengal · · Score: 1

      Well, that puts me at two...

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  5. Because it worked so well for Windscale. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    (honest)

  6. bad branding by tverbeek · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I really don't see how a harder-to-pronounce name will make the company any more appealing to customers.

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    1. Re:bad branding by algormortis · · Score: 1

      They can just say it's foreign or something. That way, they can keep charging more for their services while offering less :)

    2. Re:bad branding by Jeng · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It makes it harder to identify the problematic company.

      Your friends may talk shit about Comcast, but they have no idea how good Xfinity is, but damnit they have gotta be better than comcast.

      I believe that is the line of thought.

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    3. Re:bad branding by dosius · · Score: 1

      Or maybe they want to confuse the Feds into letting their proposed buyout of NBC through?

      -uso.

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    4. Re:bad branding by eln · · Score: 1

      Rebranding is usually done for one of two reasons:
      1.) The old brand is so horribly tainted that it can't possibly be revived. See: Philip Morris/Altria
      2.) The company is failing. The rebranding in this case is a last-ditch effort when everyone has run out of actual good ideas.

      In either case, it rarely does any good. In the first case, the company will change the name but not anything else, so the bad reputation gets attached to the new name fairly quickly. In the second case, the company is too far gone for anything to help.

      In theory, rebranding can work if it's used as one tool in a total overhaul of the company's culture and philosophy. This generally necessitates a total replacement of all upper management, which of course almost never happens short of a bankruptcy or acquisition.

    5. Re:bad branding by suomynonAyletamitlU · · Score: 1

      For a moment, I thought you said

      It makes it harder to identify the phlegmatic company

      Maybe if they found a nice, juicy, spittle-laden name, word of mouth wouldn't spread, because nobody would want to say it.

    6. Re:bad branding by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It makes it harder to identify the problematic company.

      Your friends may talk shit about Comcast, but they have no idea how good Xfinity is, but damnit they have gotta be better than comcast.

      I believe that is the line of thought.

      I worked for Some ISP about a decade ago, when deregulation caused huge congloms to form. We'd regularly get calls from formerly independent ISP A customer saying our CS was awful, and they were canceling. Next call they'd subscribe to formerly independent ISP B. I can't imagine our corporate overlords knowing and or purposefully playing into that sort of thing intentionally, especially since the script we read from said to greet as "Internet Service Provider Technical Support." Literally, use the generic words "ISP" Tech Support. And, helpfully, every customer's currently subscribed ISP logo showed up in the ticketing system, so once you got their userID (which you had to INSIST on), you could greet them as an employee of formerly independent ISP [insert-logo-here].

      For every informed customer, there will be 4 who aren't, and probably 2 they retain without any extra effort.

    7. Re:bad branding by Glendale2x · · Score: 2, Interesting

      They probably just want a name that angry customers can't tweak into something negative as easily as "Comcast" becomes "Comcrap" or "Crapcast".

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    8. Re:bad branding by postbigbang · · Score: 1

      You forgot ego.

      They're buying NBC. Can't be Comcast and buy NBC, ya know. Gotta be X-something, because X is cool. Maybe Xfinity is where the stock price will go.

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    9. Re:bad branding by mcfatboy93 · · Score: 1

      wouldn't the "Re-branding" process require them to tell EVERYONE that they are changing their name. so when you talk shit about comcast and then a commercial comes on telling you that they are now called Xfinity, sorta defeats the purpose of re-branding, don't ya think.

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    10. Re:bad branding by hey! · · Score: 1

      Just like Blackwater renamed itself to "Xe" after its employees were implicated in (among other things) massacring civilians.

      Maybe "X" is the scarlet letter of corporate misconduct.

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    11. Re:bad branding by RoFLKOPTr · · Score: 5, Informative

      Your friends may talk shit about Comcast, but they have no idea how good Xfinity is, but damnit they have gotta be better than comcast.

      Comcast isn't changing their name... they're just renaming their service. It's going to be Comcast Xfinity now.

    12. Re:bad branding by Hes+Nikke · · Score: 1

      yes, but tenfinity and 10finity just look stupid

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    13. Re:bad branding by LBt1st · · Score: 1

      If they were foreign they'd have to offer considerably better service for a lower price.

      http://www.websiteoptimization.com/bw/0905/

    14. Re:bad branding by tverbeek · · Score: 1

      Um, "EXfinity"?

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    15. Re:bad branding by tverbeek · · Score: 1

      Gods, that's even worse. They're mimicking the name of AT&T's "Uverse" service.

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    16. Re:bad branding by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Comcrap Xshittily

    17. Re:bad branding by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Looking at the "Xfinity equals" branch of the thread, that's another thing that Comcast failed at.

    18. Re:bad branding by MachineShedFred · · Score: 1

      They'll still be Comcastards though.

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  7. Next Up by Looce · · Score: 1

    AT&T rebrands as Compu-Global-Hyper-Mega-Net, hoping to shed its previous reputation as a bad wireless carrier.

    1. Re:Next Up by Pojut · · Score: 1

      How about Conglom-O?

    2. Re:Next Up by Jeng · · Score: 1

      Or SBC

      Conglom-O is a good fit for AT&T Classic though.

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    3. Re:Next Up by Loadmaster · · Score: 1

      Come on, this is Slashdot. It's got to be ConHugeCo.

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  8. Name change = shame by goodmanj · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Nobody changes their name because they "want to take credit" for things they're "proud of".

    Comcast, do you really want to have your name mentioned alongside Phillip Morris ... errr, "Altria"? At least you're not *killing* your customers.

    1. Re:Name change = shame by goodmanj · · Score: 1

      Oh, and Blackwater / Xe.

    2. Re:Name change = shame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also see Gator / Claria

    3. Re:Name change = shame by Rockoon · · Score: 1

      At least you're not *killing* your customers.

      I'm sure plenty of people have committed suicide while on hold with comcast support.

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    4. Re:Name change = shame by nhytefall · · Score: 1

      Those records are sealed by court order. At least, that is what my therapist tells me.

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    5. Re:Name change = shame by Yvan256 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Dying of hunger and boredom isn't suicide.

    6. Re:Name change = shame by syntheticmemory · · Score: 1

      At least you're not *killing* your customers.

      Unless you have a heart attack over their customer service or get bored to death with the programming.

    7. Re:Name change = shame by HeronBlademaster · · Score: 1

      It is if, before initiating the call, you state "I'm not eating until I get through the hold queue"...

      (In all seriousness, I despise Comcast as much as the next guy, but I've never been on hold with them for more than a minute or two.)

  9. its still comcrap to me by jmanforever · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Xfinity sounds like it should be the name of a sports car company... or perhaps an adult film company.

    1. Re:its still comcrap to me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hmm... XXXfinity.

    2. Re:its still comcrap to me by Jimmy+King · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well, I do use Comcast to access the majority of my adult films.

    3. Re:its still comcrap to me by TinBromide · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      I'm glad you mentioned comcrap, even my grandparents call it comcrap, that has filtered down from the nerds down to EVERYBODY and they realized that the brand was... soiled.

      Thank you, I'll be here all week.

      So how can we integrate some sort of fecal synonym into xfinity... I wonder if part of the market testing was bringing a bunch of teenage nerds into a room and they were like "come up with a catchy insult name for this" after three weeks, they couldn't get any results.

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    4. Re:its still comcrap to me by maxume · · Score: 1

      It isn't terribly catchy, but you could go with something like "That shitty company that used to be called Comcast."

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    5. Re:its still comcrap to me by TubeSteak · · Score: 4, Funny

      The bad news for you is that I also use Comcast to access the majority of your adult films.
      Your technique isn't bad, but the lighting needs to be better.
      /You've just been Xfinitied.

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    6. Re:its still comcrap to me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Crapfinity
      Xfinshitty
      Xcrappity
      Suxfinity
      Nope, they must not have done that -- Hell I'm half a century old, bet kids could come up with many more. :)

    7. Re:its still comcrap to me by Korin43 · · Score: 1

      A sports car company? No sports car company would choose such an idiotic name.

      Comcast Marketing Team: Ok so the name we came up with was Xfinity. Our research conducted in the 90's says that people like "x-treme" things, so we basically just put an x in front of a word that sounds cool.
      Comcast Executives: That's brilliant! Our retarded customers will love it!

      Sports Car Marketing Team: Ok so what do you think of Xfinity? We came up with it while we were drunk and watching power rangers.
      Sports Car Executives: That's retarded. Imagine using this pickup line, "Hey baby, wanna see my xfinity?" No one will get laid showing off a car with that name.
      Sports Car Marketing Team: Good point, back to spending all of that money you gave us.. I mean research.

    8. Re:its still comcrap to me by Culture20 · · Score: 1

      Xfinity sounds like it should be the name of a sports car company... or perhaps an adult film company.

      At Comcast, we're all about bringing the content you want, but not necessarily faster. We're proud of that fact, and thus are rebranding as Xfinity; We bring the Bomp to the Chigga-wow-wow.

    9. Re:its still comcrap to me by berashith · · Score: 1

      so this is another attempt of a distribution channel trying to become a vertically integrated content provider.

    10. Re:its still comcrap to me by DarkOx · · Score: 1

      Comcast - leads on even unfamiliar with the brand to assume they have something to do with communications.

      Xfinity - ??? Who could even guess

      Names apparently have to be useless now.

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    11. Re:its still comcrap to me by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      Comcast makes most of it's profit from the Porn channels.

      I am not making that up. It's the top grossing income stream.

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    12. Re:its still comcrap to me by syntheticmemory · · Score: 1

      Xfinity sounds like it should be the name of a sports car company... or perhaps an adult film company.

      Or a "white van" speaker system.

    13. Re:its still comcrap to me by vjoel · · Score: 1

      Xfinity sounds like it should be the name of a sports car company... or perhaps an adult film company.

      Sup dawg, we heard you like porn so we put xfinity in yo xfinity so you can xfinity while you xfinity.

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    14. Re:its still comcrap to me by ArmagedionTime · · Score: 1

      It sounds to me like a vaporware company. Would fit Comcast well. OUR XFINITY SERVICE WILL DELIVER HIGH SPEED INTERNET TO YOUR HOME 100X FASTER THAN EVER BEFORE!!!

    15. Re:its still comcrap to me by gestalt_n_pepper · · Score: 1

      The "adult" sports car company. The luxury car with *fantastic* "accessories."

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    16. Re:its still comcrap to me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know people like to s/Comcast/Comcrap/, but it's really not as bad as people think.

      I recently moved from Seattle (Comcast) to Austin (Time Warner), so I can tell you first hand that Time Warner is actually worse than Comcast.

      Time Warner's fastest "turbo" download speed is only 15Mbit in Austin, while Comcast's slowest download speed is 20Mbit in Seattle.

      Furthermore, Time Warner's HD DVR feels like it's a decade behind Comcast's. Examples:

      • TW only gives you 7 days of program data instead of 14 on Comcast. Also, TW only displays 2 hours at a time, while Comcast displays 3 at a time.
      • TW won't let you search for upcoming shows to record; they force you to use the 7 day program listing, and they won't let you go into "vertical mode" for a single channel like Comcast. Likewise, TW's recording list feature doesn't allow you to change the sort order, but Comcast lets you sort on show name, time and length of recording.
      • TW won't let you prioritize your shows until a conflict occurs, and then you have to choose which one to cancel; canceling a recording on TW deletes the entire "record all new episodes" series.

      In conclusion, Comcast is definitely not the worst cable monopoly in the US, so stop implying that it is. I'd gladly switch from TW to Comcast if Comcast were available in Austin.

    17. Re:its still comcrap to me by Statecraftsman · · Score: 1

      I do believe this is the first I've seen a comment with slashies modded +5.
      /I, for one, welcome our new Fark overlords.
      //doesn't know full history of slashies

  10. Well.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    It's Xfinityastic!

  11. Bad rep sticks anyway by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I say it's a fairly transparent attempt to shuffle previous bad behaviour under the carpet, not the hard work to seek redemption that they should be doing instead. Bad management is bad management no matter the name, it'll show every time.

  12. The 90s called, by Ryanrule · · Score: 5, Funny

    they want their "x" back.

    1. Re:The 90s called, by pitchpipe · · Score: 1

      The 90s called, they want their "x" back.

      At least they didn't call it "iFinity"!

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    2. Re:The 90s called, by MrEricSir · · Score: 5, Funny

      Unfortunately, the 90's were using Comcast Voice and the call didn't go through.

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    3. Re:The 90s called, by wintercolby · · Score: 0

      Nope, that's what happens when Apple buys them out, and institutes DRM at the data link layer.

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    4. Re:The 90s called, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      [i|n|e|x|y|z]Finity for the, err, win!

    5. Re:The 90s called, by Hurricane78 · · Score: 1

      Or eFinity... iTurbo... cyberGold 2000... XFX. ;)

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    6. Re:The 90s called, by Rhys · · Score: 1

      Funny enough every time I have service problems and call they offer me the voice add-on. "We're unreliable but would you like to pay us more money so that you can't even call when there's a problem?" Gee sure, thanks guys!

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    7. Re:The 90s called, by benchbri · · Score: 1

      The 90's called again, for you, and this time left a message

      they want their joke format back.

    8. Re:The 90s called, by precariousgray · · Score: 1

      I don't understand. What about the were using Comcast Voice and the call didn't go through which belongs to the 90, again?

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  13. You know by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm going to go out on a limb and say that your name is NOT your problem. I'm going to say that your problem is that you suck ass at providing service. You can change the name all you like, so long as your service blows, people are going to hate on you. Conversely, fix the service and it won't be a problem.

    Seriously, I'm amazed how bad Comcast is. Where I live, both Cox and Comcast provide cable service of the TV, Internet and phone variety. Which you get depends on which part of the city you live in. I live in the Cox area. In general, I'm happy with them. They aren't prefect, but they are pretty good. They fix their problems, their speeds are good, etc, etc. My friends on Cox seem to feel the same way.

    Not long ago my parents came to visit, and stayed in a condo owned by friends of theirs. This condo was in a Comcast area. I couldn't believe how bad it was. Not even dealing with tech support, just general usage. The net was amazingly slow, their DVR was a massive POS, etc, etc. I made very little use of it and I found it to be poor quality. I can't imagine how dissatisfied someone who uses it all the time is.

    Rebranding won't fix shit. You have to fix your quality if you want people to respect your brand.

    1. Re:You know by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You have to fix your quality if you want people to respect your brand.

      Maybe they're not looking for "respect" and are merely trying to get out of the "hate" category.

      Right now "Comcast == teh suck!" in many people's minds (it's what I tell all my technophobe friends).
      Swap in a new name and color palette and you get to start from scratch.

    2. Re:You know by oldhack · · Score: 1

      I've had Cox for coupla months now and I find it pretty hassle-free. Call their number, a person answers quickly. Phone and ISP service work as advertised. Their website seem bit flakey, but could be my browser setting. And no surprise in billing so far.

      The other option is AT&T for my area, so it's no contest really, but I figure a little 'kudo' for decent business practice might not be a bad thing in this ocean of nasty monopolies.

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    3. Re:You know by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Conversely, fix the service and it won't be a problem.

      Yeah, sure! Worked for GTE.

    4. Re:You know by Fallon · · Score: 1

      As a Comcast customer here in Colorado Springs, I can't disagree more.

      The sum total for Internet or TV outages over the past year has been maybe an hour combined.

      The only problem we had was when we picked up our HD-DVR. I plugged it in and it didn't play nice with the HDMI out. Comcast guy showed up the next day looked at it, replaced it with one that worked & gave us a handful of premium channels for a bit as an I'm sorry. I'm pretty happy with the DVR too.

      The only other legitimate interaction with support I've had was when I bought & hooked up a new modem, then replaced that with a DOCSIS 3.0 modem I bought here recently. Those calls went reasonably quick & were mostly us waiting for the dam modems to reboot & acquire settings or reading off serial numbers.

      I'd love to rag on Comcast for being crappy, but at least here in the Springs they aren't. I've been living overseas for the past decade on satelite with 700ms+ pings and often 18+ people sharing 256kbps down & 128kbs up, so I know what crappy erratic connections are like.

    5. Re:You know by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not long ago my parents came to visit, and stayed in a condo owned by friends of theirs. This condo was in a Comcast area. I couldn't believe how bad it was. Not even dealing with tech support, just general usage. The net was amazingly slow, their DVR was a massive POS, etc, etc. I made very little use of it and I found it to be poor quality. I can't imagine how dissatisfied someone who uses it all the time is.

      Sounds pretty Comcastic to me.

    6. Re:You know by Deanalator · · Score: 1

      From what I could tell from the xfinity commercial I saw last night, it's more than just a brand change. It looks like they are offering 100mb residential lines, which means deploying DOCSYS 3.0 network. It also looks like they are offering a some sort of netflix style media services as well, which is a really good call on their end.

      Also, I have a comcast business line (internet, no tv) in Portland, and love it. I have a really solid connection, and if my internet goes out (which has happened once in the past 6 months since I got the service) I have a phone number for a guy that I can call and yell at. This is also the only ISP I have ever dealt with that never gave me any crap for seeding terrabytes and terrabytes of movies, tv shows, and software.

    7. Re:You know by HeronBlademaster · · Score: 1

      Yeah... I have to agree. I hate Comcast's business practices, but their internet service has been pretty rock-solid for me. The only time it ever really goes down is occasionally it'll drop for a few minutes in the wee hours of the morning when I should be asleep anyway, so I look at it as a (not so) gentle reminder that I should go to bed. I've also never had issues with long hold times the few times I've called them.

      Maybe I'm just lucky? I don't know. I'd still switch to anyone else if there were comparable options (FiOS, Google, whoever), but right now my choices are Comcast or 1.5Mbps DSL from Qwest, and there's no way I'm settling for 1.5Mbps.

    8. Re:You know by KnownIssues · · Score: 1

      Presumably, they believe they've made steps to improve their service and are at the point where their brand is carrying the baggage of past that isn't true anymore. I'm not claiming that's true, but that could be what they genuinely believe.

    9. Re:You know by hipifreq · · Score: 1

      As another Comcast business customer I couldn't agree more. The service is stellar when they give you a direct line to the local sales and service guys. I've never had it go down, always had speeds as advertised, and the phone services just works. However, as a previous residential customer of Comcast in several different locations around the USA, I would have to say that they treat the residential customers like dirt. Good luck getting your service as advertised, and there's nothing you can do if it isn't. I've seen net connections throttled, packet sniffers drop torrents, and even TV service that's gotten choppy.

    10. Re:You know by epee1221 · · Score: 1

      Maybe they're not looking for "respect" and are merely trying to get out of the "hate" category.

      That will only work if people don't realize Xfinity is just Comcast's new name.

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    11. Re:You know by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are a lucky one. I have Cox here in Gainesville, Florida. They have billboards all over town advertising that it is "all about the cox". I am pretty sure they are advertising how hard you are going to get "coxed" in the anus because their service is so bad and they have a monopoly here. They advertise 7Mb down and 1.5 up. I am lucky to get 3Mb down and dial-up speed up. The modem drops the connection a dozen times a day and they deny that there is a problem. This isn't because the lines are split too much in the house or anything because I don't have cable tv.... the line is directly from their drop to the cable modem. After waiting for literally 90+ minutes on the phone I scheduled to have them come out to take a look (after repeated denial that anything was wrong I pointed out that I couldn't get a traceroute to complete even to their own domain and pings to any server return about 30-40% loss). After scheduling the appointment they called me back 40 minutes before they were supposed to arrive with an automated message saying they had to reschedule and if the new appointment time would not work press 1 to talk to someone about rescheduling. I pressed 1 and they confirmed for the time I couldn't be home!!!! I called back (another hour hold) to reschedule again. Then they showed up at the time from the automated call instead of the time agreed upon over the phone with a real person. They left a note that I wasn't home (no shit) and that they can't come out again without CHARGING ME a service fee since I missed the appointment. I would take service from brighthouse/time warner any day over this crap.

    12. Re:You know by Eil · · Score: 1

      A couple weeks back, the Comcast and NBC CEOs went in front of Congress to argue their cases on why their companies should be merged. A while back, Comcast went to court to for the right to say (basically) that the FCC held no power over how Comcast operates their business. But when questioned about how Comcast would avoid falling into monopolistic practices, Comcast CEO Brian Roberts said the FCC would keep them in check. Al Franken publicly lambasted Roberts for about five straight minutes for blatantly lying to him. (Here's the video. It's a good watch even if you don't care for Franken.) Now here's the best part. When it was Roberts' turn to speak, it went something like this:

      Roberts: Senator, ah, first of all, our company has been in business for a very long time and I think our reputation...
      Franken: Your reputation...?

      Franken lets him continue and Roberts basically starts mumbling that he got confused about what exactly the question was about. Priceless. Franken then goes on the criticize the NBC CEO on their past shady dealings. It's a good show. Just sad to think that even with this severe public shaming, there's enough bribing and palm-greasing going on that the two media behemoths will still merge to become one. No matter how intense the negative pressure from the public and lawmakers, these deals always seem to go through to the detriment of the consumer.

    13. Re:You know by oldhack · · Score: 1

      Yeah. Monopoly. It sucks.

      Well, you made me grateful that AT&T is servicing the area.

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    14. Re:You know by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've never had a problem with comcast. At home I have 12/2 service and regularly hit those speeds (and go way over the bandwidth caps people mention). At work we have a 50/10 business line and again, no problem hitting or maintaining those speeds. Latency is fine, no better or worse than any other cable.

      Their DVRs suck, but all cable company DVRs suck, there really isnt a good option there short of getting a licensing deal with TiVo... Which Comcast has and is rolling out soon (see http://comcast.net/tivo)

      I cant say anything about their customer service as i've yet to need to call them, but their internet service is the best I've had so far.

      Captcha: Balance

  14. Seriously? by algormortis · · Score: 5, Insightful

    “I think the public is smarter than that now,’’

    Everyone knows this isn't true. Why do you think Comcast still has customers?

    1. Re:Seriously? by Pojut · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Because of people like me who live in an area where my choices are Comcast or Dial-up.

    2. Re:Seriously? by algormortis · · Score: 1

      Because of people like me who live in an area where my choices are Comcast or Dial-up.

      I guess you haven't heard of Google's free internet service.

    3. Re:Seriously? by Pojut · · Score: 1

      2007 called. They want their April Fool's joke back.

    4. Re:Seriously? by Kell+Bengal · · Score: 1

      I live in such a place and my landlord renovated and removed the phone line just before I moved in. I literally have a choice between comcast and tethering my PC to my phone 24/7. In fairness, though, after an abysmal period getting it installed, my internet service has been fairly benign (excepting the occasional 4 am drop-out of service, which is probably scheduled then anyway, and nobody but night-owls like me would even notice).

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    5. Re:Seriously? by Pojut · · Score: 1

      Our Internet service is ok, but our TV service is screwed. Frankly, my lady and I would be just fine without TV, but our room mate would not. Because we don't want to create a "you aren't paying for it so why are you watching it" kind of situation, we just agreed to pay our half. Our roomie never brought it up, and he likely wouldn't have cared if we pay for it, but meh. If it's already going to be there...

      SatTV isn't an option either, as we are surrounded by trees.

    6. Re:Seriously? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Why do you think Comcast still has customers?

      Because they have an effective monopoly in many regions.

    7. Re:Seriously? by Lumpy · · Score: 2, Informative

      Because most of their areas they are a monopoly.

      your choice is Nothing or Comcast, pick one.

      Ohhh, AOL dialup is still available! or you can get $299.00 a month dsl speeds with 600ms latency with satellite broadband....

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    8. Re:Seriously? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      They still have customers because there is only one owner of coax in a given area. So for TV you can choose whatever the local cable company is(Comcrap, RCN, etc) or get satellite.

      If you are in a Comcast area you have no choice. For phone and internet you could get Verizon or other local telco but DSL generally sucks.

      I suppose there is FIOS in some areas as an alternative ... ugh ... any competition is better than no competition for customers.

    9. Re:Seriously? by oopsdude · · Score: 1

      Everyone knows this isn't true. Why do you think Comcast still has customers?

      Because I live in a 100-year-old building on the north side of Chicago where my options are either Comcast or leaching off the guy who thinks "ismokerocks" is a funny SSID. The cable runs bare along the outside of my building until it punches through a hole that was drilled straight into the original brick. I'm scared to jerry-rig anything else. And yet... I have had every conceivable problem with their service. They repeatedly charge me for equipment that's been installed for months, they double-charge me for the same equipment, they send me bills on random days of the month, their technician was on Facebook on my connection on my time, they charged me for residential and "business-class" Internet simultaneously after being repeatedly assured that it would not happen (I foresaw this and made sure to ask)... Know what I can't do? Take my business to a competitor. Is there a reason Comcast isn't being forced to lease out its infrastructure, like AT&T was?

    10. Re:Seriously? by JM78 · · Score: 1

      Because real choice doesn't exist. As an unsatisfied Comcast customer I cannot get broadband or television that competes in speed/price because they have a monopoly on the market in my area. It doesn't matter if the public is wise to it or not. Without viable alternatives at competitive prices I am stuck with Comcast as long as I want the type of services they provide.

      Alternatively I am not at all thrilled about a Comcast/NBC merger and hope it dies a fiery, hellish death. And because its the right thing to do I am confident some jackass receiving a kickback will ensure its survival.

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    11. Re:Seriously? by AndrewNeo · · Score: 1

      Sweet, they offer 10Mb satellite internet now?

    12. Re:Seriously? by name_already_taken · · Score: 1

      Your landlord is probably legally prohibited from preventing you getting phone wiring reinstalled. If you order phone service and DSL from your phone company they will probably install the wiring to a single jack.

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  15. Magnabank by aardwolf64 · · Score: 1

    Reminds me of a branding for a local bank... Their commercials talk about how big banks don't give you personal service, and that they're not all that big. Then they get the nerve to call their bank "Magnabank".

    http://www.magnabank.com/

    1. Re:Magnabank by ShaunC · · Score: 1

      For what it's worth, they really aren't all that big, only 4 or 5 branches including the corporate HQ. They changed their name in an attempt to eliminate confusion... They used to be First Trust, and just about every other bank around is either First X, or X Trust. (For a prime example, a block from Magna's HQ, there's another bank called Trust One.)

      As for the Magna name, I'll reserve comment. ;)

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    2. Re:Magnabank by Anonymous+Codger · · Score: 1

      What does naming their bank after Japanese comics have to do with it?

      Oh, wait. Damn dyslexia.

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  16. The name of the rose by gmuslera · · Score: 1

    Installing 1Gb fiber to communities will be much more effective than an empty name change.

  17. It's Xfinitytastic! - and how to rebrand well by davidwr · · Score: 1

    "It's Xfinitytastic!" OK, someone had to say it.
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    0) Halt or scale back marketing.
    1) Fix your problems.
    2) Wait until people notice.
    3) Resume normal level of marketing.

    If you must market between steps 0 and 3, be apologetic about it, like Toyota's current "we're sorry" ads. The marketing budget during this time should be a small fraction of the amount you are spending on step 2.

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    1. Re:It's Xfinitytastic! - and how to rebrand well by d4nowar · · Score: 1

      Spending money to wait for people? I'd rather spend my money fixing my problems.

    2. Re:It's Xfinitytastic! - and how to rebrand well by Rick+Genter · · Score: 1

      It's Xfinitesimal! Oh, wait...

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    3. Re:It's Xfinitytastic! - and how to rebrand well by davidwr · · Score: 1

      Step 3 happens after step 2.

      The point is you don't fix your problems then immediately go back to normal marketing, you either wait for word of mouth to catch up with the "new improved you" or you use apologetic marketing.

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  18. Meaningless names by fiannaFailMan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    WTF is it with this trend of conjuring up completely meaningless words to use as company names?

    On NPR in the mornings I hear about a company that used to be called Horn Murdoch and Cole (a sensible name that tells you they've been around for a while and actually means something) who for some unfathomable reason decided to call themselves "Acretive Solutions," or something. I mean, aside from the impossibility of being able to tell if it's "Acretive" or "Acrative" just by listening to it, what the hell is that supposed to mean? It sounds almost like "Excretive" which calls to mind images of someone taking a dump!

    Accenture, Cingular, Elementis, Altria, I mean, what the fuck is that? At least the idiots at "Consignia" had the sense to revert back to the name that everyone understood and recognized for decades, i.e. 'Royal Mail.'

    Sheesh!

    There's a transcript here of a BBC radio show talking about this very subject.

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    1. Re:Meaningless names by dosius · · Score: 1

      Cingular. Now there's a bad name...to me it implied "Of or having to do with (the disease) shingles"

      -uso.

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    2. Re:Meaningless names by russotto · · Score: 3, Informative

      Accenture, Cingular, Elementis, Altria, I mean, what the fuck is that? At least the idiots at "Consignia" had the sense to revert back to the name that everyone understood and recognized for decades, i.e. 'Royal Mail.'

      Accenture lost the Arthur Andersen name when they split from the accounting firm. Just in time for the Andersen name to be blackened by the Enron scandal. So, definitely a good name change for them.

    3. Re:Meaningless names by ShaunC · · Score: 1

      WTF is it with this trend of conjuring up completely meaningless words to use as company names?

      Trademark law.

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    4. Re:Meaningless names by pileated · · Score: 1

      This called: Geniuses in Marketing.

    5. Re:Meaningless names by Darth_brooks · · Score: 1

      I would wager that part of the trend has to do with trademarking issues. Obviously, Comcast isn't going to rebrand themselves as "Boeing" or "Ford" or "Wendy's", since those are existing companies with trademarks. Coming up with a non-dictionary word as a company name probably lessens the chances that they're going to run into trouble with domain squatters or some-guy-in-mom's-basement-with-an-LLC-who-wants-a-payoff types. I've heard that the trend with new car names (WTF is a Yaris?) has some of the same roots.

      But I agree wholeheartedly with the silliness of the name.

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    6. Re:Meaningless names by McNally · · Score: 1

      who for some unfathomable reason decided to call themselves "Acretive Solutions," or something. I mean, aside from the impossibility of being able to tell if it's "Acretive" or "Acrative" just by listening to it, what the hell is that supposed to mean?

      Not to imply that it's a good name, but it sounds as though you're not aware that "accretive" is a genuine word with an established meaning (it's an adjectival form of "accretion".)

    7. Re:Meaningless names by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This called: Geniuses in Marketing.

      I'd call those folks Oxy Morons.

    8. Re:Meaningless names by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      WTF is it with this trend of conjuring up completely meaningless words to use as company names?

      One reason: Googlibility (It's a word *now*, goddamnit)

      If you make up a name, you don't have to compete with all the other uses of the word. E.g. think about Googling "install windows" if Microsoft was a relatively unknown company. Most of the hits would be about the benefits of double-glazing, and how to make sure the opening was square.

      I've been trying to learn the R programming language recently, an let me tell you it's a bitch to search for things. "R" is so common elsewhere, including it just *barely* helps refine the search. "R statistics" doesn't help much either, because you get a bunch of stuff about the R-squared goodness-of-fit topic.

      I think the only reason you don't see it for C/C++ is because of the volume of pages on those topics, and the fact that Google has special cased the snot out of them. (e.g. remember back when punctuation didn't matter? AFAICT, it still doesn't, unless it's two plus signs after a letter "c".)

      That said, your point is valid that it doesn't matter how distinctive your name is if people can't spell it - but you get that with "traditional" names too: Is it "Hansen Bros." or "Hanson Bros."? "Smith and Fisher" or "Smith and Fischer"?

    9. Re:Meaningless names by MickyTheIdiot · · Score: 1

      damn.. I need to go take my BONIVA. I am very impressed with my new IMPREZA.

      Corporate names SUCK.

    10. Re:Meaningless names by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      WTF is it with this trend of conjuring up completely meaningless words to use as company names?

      As opposed to "Comcast"?

    11. Re:Meaningless names by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I went through the Accenture name change and it wasn't too bad. Quite amazing that a company could go through all of the legal and marketing work to within such a short time frame.

      Accent on the Future = Accenture

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accenture#Emergence_of_Accenture

    12. Re:Meaningless names by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, definitely a good name change for them.
      Of course it was. Changing your name to Y to emphasize that you are not X, but rather a distinct entity, works a lot better when you are, in fact, not X.

    13. Re:Meaningless names by KnownIssues · · Score: 1

      Accenture, Cingular, Elementis, Altria, I mean, what the fuck is that?

      Exactly! It isn't anything the fuck and that is the whole point. Those names could represent companies involved in any activity, whereas Comcast sounds like a shortening of Communications Broadcast and implies a narrow field of interest: cable television, Internet, and telephone. With the new name they can be anything they want: pharmaceuticals, space exploration, weapons manufacture, you name it!

    14. Re:Meaningless names by CraigoFL · · Score: 1

      Not to mention domain-name accessibility and Googleability.

    15. Re:Meaningless names by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I expect the invented names are easier to trademark and to find in search results (for those who can spell them more or less).

    16. Re:Meaningless names by fiannaFailMan · · Score: 1

      Accent on the Future = Accenture

      What?! Is that what it's supposed to mean?! I've been wondering about that for years! LOL! I'd love to smoke weed with some of those marketing people some time!

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    17. Re:Meaningless names by dissy · · Score: 1

      WTF is it with this trend of conjuring up completely meaningless words to use as company names?

      Because every word in the dictionary has already been trademarked for some field, and no company wants to pre-limit themselves to their current field (or as others call it, not having focus)

    18. Re:Meaningless names by precariousgray · · Score: 1

      Shomething tellsh me that it might make more shense if you shwould jusht try another pronunshiation than that whisch immediately popped into your head.

      Regards,
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    19. Re:Meaningless names by NJRoadfan · · Score: 1

      The first common example of this was likely Exxon. They wanted a distinctive name that could be thoroughly trademarked and previously didn't mean anything (no lawsuits claiming prior use).

    20. Re:Meaningless names by cant_get_a_good_nick · · Score: 1

      You want to be new, different, trademarkable in a global marketplace. I can't wait for monster cable and monster.com to start suing each other (both are very litigious about Monster).

      And your namers have no creativity. So you get sucky names.

  19. Oh lemme try one! by hellfire · · Score: 3, Funny

    Xfinity = how many times smarter you are than the average customer service rep

    Let's keep this rolling!

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    1. Re:Oh lemme try one! by frosty_tsm · · Score: 2, Funny

      Xfinity = how many times smarter you are than the average customer service rep

      Let's keep this rolling!

      Xfinity = how long you'll wait for youtube to load.

    2. Re:Oh lemme try one! by Moryath · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Xfinity = the number of customers they want to have locked into their monopolistic areas so they can jack their prices up.

      As opposed to Comcrap: It's Crapatastic, which referenced their crappy service.

    3. Re:Oh lemme try one! by seven+of+five · · Score: 1

      How 'bout Xfinityplex = number of times you'll have to sit thru craptacular Xfinity ads on the tube.

    4. Re:Oh lemme try one! by aztektum · · Score: 1

      Shitfinity. Shit for as far as the eye can see.

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    5. Re:Oh lemme try one! by dwillden · · Score: 1

      Xfinity = how long it'll take to figure out how to pronounce this abomination of a word. (exfinity? zhfinity, hfinity) no pronunciation I can think of makes any sense.

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  20. Comcast doesn't get it by Peter+Simpson · · Score: 1

    Called them a few weeks ago, to complain that, for the past two mornings, both my cable TV and internet were out. It had been single digit cold, and everything came back on when the sun warmed things up. They said they'd need to send a truck to my house. I told them I wouldn't be home, but they should probably just log the call and wait for my neighbors to complain before sending some one to my house. (I was reasonably sure the problem was not just mine, as my cable TV and internet come in on different cables, and service has been essentially uninterrupted for the 15 years I have lived in the house).

    The guy's answer was: "If you don't allow us to send a truck to your house, the call won't even go into the system"

    When I came home a few hours later, I saw a Comcast truck in my neighbor's driveway. No problems with either cable or internet since.

    Clueless...

  21. Why? by ldconfig · · Score: 2, Informative

    Why does Comcast screw up everything it touches? I still have fond memories of Tech TV.

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    1. Re:Why? by Jeng · · Score: 1

      You may have seen their board of directors.

      They are often featured on the Dish Network commercials.

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    2. Re:Why? by MickyTheIdiot · · Score: 1

      I knew Ed Begley Jr. had something to do with this.

  22. Are you in there McFly? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Aspartame was just recently renamed, too, coincidence?

  23. Rebranding by PPH · · Score: 1

    Is there some rule that says all rebranded company names have to start with 'X'?

    On a positive note, at least Comcast isn't trying to hide after killing a bunch of innocent civilians (yet).

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    1. Re:Rebranding by Jeng · · Score: 1

      Hard to kill people by providing bad cable service, but they did their best.

      They now have their goal.

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    2. Re:Rebranding by MickyTheIdiot · · Score: 1

      They don't. They can be a bastardized adjective. "IMPREZA" is my favorite. It's supposed to be "impressive"?

      Should be called "PIECEOFSHITBURNINGALONGTHESIDEOFTHEROAD-ZA"

  24. How about changing it to "XSucksALittleLess" by gestalt_n_pepper · · Score: 2, Insightful

    More accurate, anyway. At any rate, I'll believe something has changed when I can talk to somebody who's not in India, knows something, can make a decision and can understand words like "I measured the Comcast line signal strengh for the last 24 hours and it dipped to just above zero 7 times in that period for a total of 95.4 minutes of non-functioning internet time so GET AN ENGINEER TO YOUR SWITCH AND DON'T SENT OUT THE LOCAL DUMBASS AGAIN."

    Cheers!

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    1. Re:How about changing it to "XSucksALittleLess" by nwf · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That was basically my experience. Tons of clueless techs who weren't authorized to actually fix anything. The "inside" tech blamed it on the "outside" tech and vice-versa. Why one guy couldn't touch wires inside AND outside my house is anyone's guess. The TV picture was full of static, but he said the signal level was great. Amplify a poor quality signal and you get a strong, yet poor signal. Whatever. I'm with Verizon now, but I still get a mailer from Comcast at least once a week wanting me back. Not going to happen after the manager promised he'd get it resolved in a week and call me back. A month later, I was an Xcustomer.

      They actually measured my "high speed" internet connection at 128 kbps download to their own speed test servers. I think it just came down to it would cost more to fix and lose a customer. The fun part was waiting for the tech, who was paid per job, waiting on hold for 45 minutes to get an agent to reset something. That was priceless.

      I had Comcast when living in DC and they sucked there, too. They "audited" the apartment building by just disconnecting everyone and seeing who complained and verified they were a customer. Pathetic.

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    2. Re:How about changing it to "XSucksALittleLess" by nhytefall · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Won't ever happen as long as I continue to have conversations like with their "tech" support:

      Comcast rep: I don't see any problems in your area
      Me: Please check again. I am seeing high lag, dropped packets, and randow route changes in the Comcast network.
      Comcast rep: Everything's okay within 750' of your location.
      Me: The problem isn't there, its further out Actually, it's at [ip address] which is [hostname], and is probably near [address]
      Comcast rep: Wow, how did you see that?
      Me: Traceroute
      Comcast rep: I need to learn to do that

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    3. Re:How about changing it to "XSucksALittleLess" by Culture20 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Me: The problem isn't there, its further out Actually, it's at [ip address] which is [hostname], and is probably near [address]
      Comcast rep: Wow, how did you see that?
      Me: Traceroute
      Comcast rep: I need to learn to do that

      You're lucky that didn't become "Why are you inspecting the network sir? Hold please while I transfer you to Hostile Services."

    4. Re:How about changing it to "XSucksALittleLess" by PNutts · · Score: 2, Interesting

      More accurate, anyway. At any rate, I'll believe something has changed when I can talk to somebody who's not in India, knows something, can make a decision and can understand words like "I measured the Comcast line signal strengh for the last 24 hours and it dipped to just above zero 7 times in that period for a total of 95.4 minutes of non-functioning internet time so GET AN ENGINEER TO YOUR SWITCH AND DON'T SENT OUT THE LOCAL DUMBASS AGAIN."

      While many of the comments (in the overall thread) are funny, I don't think they reflect reality. Sure, I would like to have more of a choice but that is a different issue.

      I've been with Comcast for many years and I've never spoken to off-shore support. I suppose a quick Google would find if they do or not. Last week I was having trouble using VPN from home. I called Comcast and the call started as voice response which normally ticks me off, but after I told it "Internet" and "I cannot connect" my cable modem reset. Wow. After a few more seconds I was transferred to a live technician who gave me some technical information about my connection. He wasn't local but sometimes they are. In most every case I've discovered they are usually bored techies and enjoy talking to technical customers about the various pieces and will devulge detailed information.

      The last physical visit to my home was for TV/Internet connection issues and they replaced every piece of equipment between my TV and the box on the telephone pole (I have a long run to the pole). The guys were local, intelligent, and new a heck of a lot about what they were doing including measuring signal strength as compared to cable modem proximity to my wireless router (Belkin - I'll get back with my first wife before I buy another one of your wireless routers, and Motorola - It's called shielding).

      My town has various "depots" around town where you can go in and pick up/drop off equipment and talk to people face to face. The line moves fast and the folks there are a hoot. Sure, they want to sell you stuff and I keep saying "no". I have basic cable (only analog channels below 32) and Internet service.

      So maybe your issues are regional or closer to home. Or maybe they are based on a previous experience. I do know that for a company that can tell me to bugger off they treat me well.

    5. Re:How about changing it to "XSucksALittleLess" by Belial6 · · Score: 1

      I had the same problem with AT&T. My solution was to just take my router and a laptop outside and plug it in directly to the 'outside' wiring. That pretty well shut them up about it being my inside wiring.

    6. Re:How about changing it to "XSucksALittleLess" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It sounds like you don't know what you're talking about either. 0 dBmV is an absolute signal strength measurement and has been the the target for a "perfect" signal for about 50 years. If you are referring to a digital signal, then the required signal strength can go as low as -12 dBmV and still be considered "perfect". Assuming the signal is fine at the tap (it's almost always a problem with a line AFTER the demarc), your problem is either ingress somewhere on the line or shitty hardware and both are just as likely as the other to occur with Comcast. I'm speaking as a former cable company employee.

    7. Re:How about changing it to "XSucksALittleLess" by enilnomi · · Score: 1

      Why one guy couldn't touch wires inside AND outside my house is anyone's guess.

      For the same reason the guy in the body shop doesn't diagnose fuel injectors, and the mechanic doesn't bang out fenders. The tech who comes to your house is geared for tasks like settop changeouts, F-fitting replacements, ground rods, reworking a drop, etc. The line tech is carrying amp parts, tap plates, pole hardware, system maps, etc. and the skills to wield them.

      Back when I was running a cable repair dispatch office, our cost on rolling a housecall truck was $N an hour and a tech truck ran close to $N*2.25. Less than 15% of house calls were the result of system problems; do the math.

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    8. Re:How about changing it to "XSucksALittleLess" by nhytefall · · Score: 1

      I wasn't worried... due to the last, and only, four months of service with them, I am already on the "special caller" list.

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  25. Maybe they're tired of "Comcrap" by russotto · · Score: 1

    Clearly, "Xfinity" is inteded to sound like "ex-finity", thus the opposite of "infinity". The opposite of infinity is zero... whether that refers to quality of service, chance of getting a useful response from customer service, throughput, or bytes transferred without overage fees, I don't know. I'm certain it's nothing to do with the bill, though.

  26. Company Name or Branding? by rcolbert · · Score: 1

    Just curious.... Is the company name changing or is this just branding of services? Will their various sports networks change as well? At least initially the commercials aren't saying "Comcast is now Xfinity". They're saying "Xfinity by Comcast". It mat be splitting hairs, but i think it worth understanding. Will subscribers with @comcast.net addresses get new @xfinity addresses? So far there hasn't been much to this discussion beyond the expected bashing Comcast takes upon mention @ /.

    1. Re:Company Name or Branding? by russotto · · Score: 1

      Just curious.... Is the company name changing or is this just branding of services?

      Only the branding of services... probably because someone sensible in the company knows the new name probably won't last. Email addresses won't change. There's an article from the Philly fishwrap here

  27. Comcastic! by Junior+Samples · · Score: 1

    XFinity? What happened to Comcastic?

    1. Re:Comcastic! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Comcast, it's Craptastic!

  28. How stupid do they think we are? oh, wait ... by srealm · · Score: 1

    A rotten company will be a rotten company, no matter how many times it changes it's name.

    You get customers back, and customers to like you by actually DOING something for your customers, even if it hurts your bottom line. Companies like Verizon know this better than anyone - Verizon was more or less a 'last resort' until they brought out FiOS, improved their customer service, and basically focused more on what their customers were demanding. That's not to say they're perfect, but a LOT better than before, and have the rep to back it up. And they didn't even need to spend millions of dollars changing their name to do it.

    Telstra (in Australia) by contrast, spent all the money changing from Telecom to Telstra, but didn't improve a damn thing with customer service or the services they were offering. So the stink followed them through the new name.

    When will companies learn, it's the customers, stupid!

  29. A rose by any other name... by Daley_G · · Score: 1

    TFA mentioned "improved customer service" but I can't imagine that any focus will be placed on improving anything, unless it improves the bottom-line. The shareholders get dividends based on how profitable a company is, and my guess is that by changing the name, they're not necessarily trying to conjure up customers, but investors. They're not the ones sitting on hold for xfinity minutes just to talk to some McDonalds Drive-Through Graduate.

  30. What's in a name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Spending millions on a name that resembles a pornographic version of Buzz Lightyear's favourite saying can't be good for that bottom line.

  31. I have written my last check to this company by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Whatever they call themselves, I will never write them another check.

    Nothing but problems.

    Like when I moved and they made 2 installation appointments, but never showed up.

    Or, when they "upgraded" the network service and send a new cable modem, that didn't work and wouldn't fix.

  32. Logo Design? by whisper_jeff · · Score: 1

    Who's going to design their logo? Rob Leifeld or Jim Lee? I really hope Jim - Rob's a hack.

  33. Xfinity? Sign me up! by honestmonkey · · Score: 5, Funny

    Wow, Xfinity! That sounds great. Where do I sign up? I want better service, faster internet and cheaper prices, and Xfinity sounds like it fits the bill. It's got an "X" in it, so it must be ten times better than what I have now.

    Can't wait until it's available in my area.

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    1. Re:Xfinity? Sign me up! by Hurricane78 · · Score: 1

      I’ll wait until it has three Xs in the name. Softcore ISPing is so last century.

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    2. Re:Xfinity? Sign me up! by robot256 · · Score: 1

      Guess what, you're in luck! If you go to Xfinity.com and click "buy" it redirects you to Comcast.com, and offers you the same shitty package (>$100/mo for TV/phone/6Mbps internet). The plus side is if you already have Comcast, you are guaranteed to have Xfinity coverage!

    3. Re:Xfinity? Sign me up! by nametaken · · Score: 1

      "Wow, Xfinity! That sounds great. Where do I sign up? I want better service, faster internet and cheaper prices, and Xfinity sounds like it fits the bill. It's got an "X" in it, so it must be ten times better than what I have now."

      Some dick is going to quote this post in a board meeting, citing it as an example of how great the name change is.

  34. What about all of our comcast.net email accounts. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Will this drive even more people to go to an email address they control themselves?

    I'm sure glad I switched to a hosted domain of my own. I have been burned by too many ISP.

    Seriously, how can our society ever hope to use email for real business if addresses aren't stable?

  35. A Comcast by any other name... by Dracos · · Score: 1

    Is still Comcastic!

  36. Isn't that by SnarfQuest · · Score: 1

    Isn't that name already in use for one of those wonder cars. Wasn't it in one of those car commercials that never mentioned what they were selling, and never even bothered putting a picture of their vehicle in the ad?

    Are we going to see commercials with his and her outdoor bathtubs advertising for this new company name?

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  37. Re:How stupid do they think we are? oh, wait ... by Algan · · Score: 1

    When will companies learn, it's the customers, stupid!

    When customers do something about it, i.e. take their money and go to the competition. No competition due to govt. monopoly? Vote!

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  38. Lucky? by BlastOff · · Score: 1

    So, am I just lucky? I've been using Comcast for about 7 years now and I've never had a complaint. When I've had technical issues they've sent someone out within 24 hours and the issues have been very rare. Their customer service has always seemed just as good as any other company. I don't know, I either lucked out or I'm not that picky.

    1. Re:Lucky? by plague3106 · · Score: 1

      Oh ya, 24hrs without service that you're paying for is no big deal. And the monthly rate hikes aren't either. And their crappy filtering. And their screwing with municipalities that want to do it on their own becuase they know of comcast's shit record.

      I can only assume you must be a comcast employee.

  39. Re:What about all of our comcast.net email account by Jeng · · Score: 1

    How about you never use the email address provided by your ISP? Web portal email works much better, and it will always be there as long as the portal is.

    Also, never use work email for anything outside or work. You will not have access to it when you no longer work there.

    Oh, I do still have a msn email account even though I stopped my msn dial-up account years ago so some isps do provide the service even if you no longer pay them. I think it only still exists since it was just re-branded hotmail.

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  40. They better not mess up CSN Chicago with this or n by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They better not mess up CSN Chicago with this or nbc deal our teams left FSN to form this network and comcast only has 20% of it and I will suck if that comcast / nbc deal better not take all the fun shows off on the network and get rid of there sets.

  41. Re:How stupid do they think we are? oh, wait ... by drdanny_orig · · Score: 1

    Nobody ever went broke underestimating the stupidity of the American public.

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  42. Big step by QuietLagoon · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Hopefully step 2 is an actual change in quality and customer service.

    .

    That step is going to be a huge one for comcast who, in the past, has proven they are unable to traverse to chasm.

  43. I just dropped their service by tigheig · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... so does that make me an XCustomer?

    1. Re:I just dropped their service by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Xactly

    2. Re:I just dropped their service by blurryrunner · · Score: 1

      It makes you an XXCustomer. And if you rejoin later, you'll be an XXXCustomer...

      br/

  44. No matter the name, this is the same company... by olePigeon+(Wik) · · Score: 0

    No matter the name, this is the same company that told me for over 3 years that all the problems I was having were my fault, not theirs. Despite having a 3 second ping (yes, 3000 ms), apparently Comcast considers that acceptable and not worth fixing. If I wanted a technician to come out and check the lines, I would have to pay for it. Comcast was my only option, my address didn't qualify for DSL, which is ironic considering I live in "Silicon Valley." AT&T finally started rolling out U-Verse in my area, which I jumped on immediately. By immediately, I mean 2 full months of trying to convince AT&T to send a technician out to hook me up because their survey monkey simply didn't put my address down in their Excel spread sheet database; every address around me was eligible for U-Verse, including three apartments I shared walls and ceilings with. AT&T "fixed" the problem, apparently, by inverting their spread sheet. Now I'm the only address at the complex eligible for U-Verse. *sigh* At least I have U-Verse and I can actually play games online. A couple weeks after I finally got U-Verse installed and canceled my Comcast, Comcast sent over two technicians. Despite having a large, red, "No Soliciting" sign on my door, they interrupted my friends and me on a nice Saturday evening of D&D (it was after 7PM). They explained to me that were aware of all the problems I was having, and attributed it to old, out-of-spec wiring at the apartment complex, and a misconfigured node in my area that was causing latency problems. I was actually pretty speechless. I finally asked them that after 3 years of telling me "it's on your end," you fucktards bother me on a Saturday evening to finally own up to your own incompetence? Pointed at the no soliciting sign, told them to fuck off, then slammed the door.

  45. Re:How stupid do they think we are? oh, wait ... by maxume · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Verizon, formerly known as Bell Atlantic (and GTE)...

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  46. Sounds familiar... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...Dunfer Mifflin Infinity.

    And we all know how well that went...

  47. Crap, by any other name... by iperkins · · Score: 0, Troll

    is still crap. And smells like it.

  48. Procrastination FTW by Leebert · · Score: 1

    I *knew* there was a reason I hadn't changed the tab on my filing folder filled with Comcast bills that is currently labeled: "Adelphia"

  49. What's in a name? by jollyreaper · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Would a turd by any other name still taste like shit?

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  50. Mod Parent Up by mpapet · · Score: 2, Informative

    I can corroborate all of the claims made about Time Warner.

    The universally horrible service of subscription television is why we don't buy any service. It's a nice chunk of change at the end of the year. The shows are out on DVD the next year anyway.

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  51. It's nothing more than a marketing move. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Changing the name just means that some people might be more inclined to obtain service from Comcast/Xfinity because even though they probably have heard of Comcast's terrible service, they might not know that the "new" company named "Xfinity" is really just Comcast with a new name. In other words, it's a move that was done purely for marketing reasons. More customers = more money, regardless of the quality of service.

  52. "Douchefinity" was taken, I guess... by spywhere · · Score: 2, Informative

    ... and a pr0n site probably owns "Assfinity."

  53. Do companies change names to impress? by sorak · · Score: 1

    a new name is unlikely to impress consumers.

    I have thought about this with cell phone companies. I once got service from bell south, and hated it. I couldn't pick up a signal at home, or at work. Odds were that, I could find a pay phone more easily than an area where I could get service. I wasn't surprised when they changed their name.

    The problem is that, now, I can't remember who they became. I could look it up, but it isn't that relevant. The part that matters is that, when xfinity comes to your town three years from now, and your friend told you how much Comcast sucks, and you have been reading blog entries complaining about Comcast's service, you may not immediately realize that it's the same company.

    1. Re:Do companies change names to impress? by Dynedain · · Score: 1

      The problem is that, now, I can't remember who they became.

      SBC, who then bought out AT&T to reform "Ma Bell"

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  54. Training by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I hope this rebranding and shiny new Customer Service comes with training for your install techs. My RCN was disconnected by one of your jokers during a neighbor's Comcast install and your untrained monkey couldn't figure out what he did wrong. I had to show him his mistake (thankfully I was home at the time). Then he did it again 2 hours later. His excuse? "This building is confyooosin." Uhm. There are 4 units in the joint and only two hookups in the area where he was working. Shameful!

  55. so many trolls - so few mod points... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I blew all 5 of today's points on comcast trolls.

    Most of the posts are just flames - zero content.

    Those few that attempt to slam Comcast with facts actually point out the stupidity of the poster.

    Three years of bad service?

    No way I would put up with that from anyone.

    Between me and my employer, we have 9 comcast accounts.

    I think I've had about 12 hours of downtime on my residential account over the last 4 years.
    I think I've had about 3 hours combined on the remaining 8 biz accounts.

    I've never had a provider with better overall uptime.

    1. Re:so many trolls - so few mod points... by Lucid+3ntr0py · · Score: 1

      And if that's true you just undid all of your moderation...

    2. Re:so many trolls - so few mod points... by hort_wort · · Score: 1

      They're not just trolls, Comcast really is that bad in some places. I've been using a free ConnectionMonitor (from steelbytes) to log downtime. It went down 18 times yesterday. That was a typical day. We've called their techs about it half a dozen times, and none of them have a clue what's wrong. We still pay though because it's either unreliable, yet otherwise blazing fast connection or dialup. Comcast still wins.

      The extra sad part is, back before Comcast bought the local cable company, service was excellent. Our cable modem never dropped out. We also got better programming on tv. Somehow, these guys took the same hardware and ruined it.

      I might still fall into the category of troll for saying this, but I'm really hoping that an antitrust hammer comes down on these guys.

    3. Re:so many trolls - so few mod points... by hort_wort · · Score: 1

      He posted anonymously this time. It's a way to cheat the slashdot moderation system. Nice to know we have such scrupulous people here calling others trolls, yes? Watch closely, in a moment he'll post another anonymous message pretending to agree with himself ;)

    4. Re:so many trolls - so few mod points... by Lucid+3ntr0py · · Score: 1

      I think if you are logged in, and post in a thread that you moderate on, your moderating is removed.

    5. Re:so many trolls - so few mod points... by hort_wort · · Score: 1

      Correct, but you don't have to be logged in to post anonymously, right? You can even use a different computer to make sure your IP isn't the same.

  56. So; is 'X'. . . by Hasai · · Score: 1

    . . . the new 'star?'

    Used to be, when foundering companies relabeled themselves, the word 'star' was invariably in the new name somewhere.
    ];)

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  57. At least it is not Xe by bussdriver · · Score: 2, Interesting

    seXfinity? its where the bandwidth goes.

    We used to joke with their employees who shared the building (who joined in:)
    Concast
    Commiecast (we were calling each other comrade too.)
    Comquest (I think their line should be "All your internet belong to us.")

    -
    Xe didn't help that corps image. People still call it Black Water.

    Well, Arther Anderson pulled it off-- how many forgot they are now known as Accenture? (The people who brought you Enron.)
    -

    Who set us up the takeover?

    1. Re:At least it is not Xe by ePhil_One · · Score: 1

      Well, Arther Anderson pulled it off-- how many forgot they are now known as Accenture? (The people who brought you Enron.)

      Different group. Arther Anderson split into a Accounting and Consulting group, the Consultants re-branded and the Accountants tanked in the wake of Enron. Not that Price-Waterhouse Coopers wasn't doing the same stuff, they were lucky enough not to have the Enron account is all. I was going for my E-MBA at the time, there were a lot of folks who lost their jobs for just following industry practices.

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    2. Re:At least it is not Xe by MachineShedFred · · Score: 1

      You forgot:

      Comcastards

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  58. comcast the jig is up and I want VS and CSN philly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    comcast the jig is up and I want VS and CSN philly on direct tv now!

  59. X is var by bussdriver · · Score: 1

    Fill in the X for anything you want- its a var!

  60. Re:What about all of our comcast.net email account by Culture20 · · Score: 1

    How about you never use the email address provided by your ISP? Web portal email works much better, and it will always be there as long as the portal is.

    ISP changes name or web portal changes name. No difference from a user perspective; their email address might change either way.

  61. If you can't change the quality.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...change the name.
     
    It will only cost you a bunch of millions to rebrand, then when you figure out that you just screwed up, it will cost you a bunch of millions to change your brand back.

  62. Christian symbolism? by Florian+Weimer · · Score: 0, Troll

    This will only piss off the atheists, who won't like the cross in any form, and Christians, who don't like such blatant misuse of the cross in a commercial context, even with an allusion to infiniteness of G-d.

    "Operation Infinite Justice" was a great slogan, too, wasn't it?

    1. Re:Christian symbolism? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tell them it means 'trans' - as in Xceiver, Xmit, etc. Transfinity does begin to sound like Buzz Lightyear.

  63. you joke but this SERIOUSLY happened to me: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    back around 99(ish) we switched one of our landlines from the local RBOC to comcast (or whatever they were called in our market back then). they initially screwed it up (wow, who saw that coming?) in such a way that we could make outbound calls but anyone calling us got a "this line has been disconnected" msg. when I called them (from that line - let me be clear: FROM THAT LINE) the in-DUH-vidual w/whom I spoke told me what I was describing wasn't possible because the line hadn't been installed yet. I pointed out that we were speaking on that line but she was completely undaunted - the line hadn't been installed & she needed to schedule an install. I was a bit taken back, this was a level of stupidity I'd never encountered, even from comcast. I finally hung up in frustration & called back, hoping to get someone a little less stupid. luckily the guy I got the 2nd time quickly figured out the problem was w/moving the # from the RBOC (hence we could call out but inbound call went to them/got disconnect mgs). the next day the problem was fixed. the day after that a technician showed up to install the line we'd had for almost a week & fully working for 24 hrs...

  64. To Xfinity and BEYONDDDDDD!!!!! by scottmanning13 · · Score: 1

    Buzz Lightyear will make a fortune.

  65. Polish . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you polish a turd, it's still a turd!

  66. Re:How stupid do they think we are? oh, wait ... by plague3106 · · Score: 1

    Well, as you point out, VZW came from merging two companies. I don't think Bell Atlantic would sell as well in CA...

  67. Sell signal by Animats · · Score: 1

    Peter Lynch, of Fidelity Investments, once wrote that he usually regarded a company name change as a sell signal. If the brand has value, why change the name? If the brand doesn't have value, why own the stock?

    Suspicious name change of the month: ENVIRONMENTAL CREDITS, LTD. (FORMERLY BOYSTOYS.COM, INC.) "Prior to September 12, 2002 and through its wholly-owned subsidiary, RMA of San Francisco, Inc., a California corporation ("RMA"), we owned and operated an upscale gentlemen's club in San Francisco, California (the "Club") under the name, "Boys Toys Club. ... While our stockholders on March 7, 2008 approved the change in our name to "Environmental Credits, Ltd.," the exact form and nature of any business that we may pursue has not been determined. Our plans are in the conceptual stage only and we may or may not pursue any specific investments or business activity."

  68. Shakespear wrote ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That which we call a rose By any other word would smell as sweet. Rephrasing: That which we call Comcast By any other word would smell as bad.

  69. rebranding doesn't work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Xfinity will always be Comcast!
    Xi will always be Blackwater!
    Syfy will always be SciFi!
    MTV will always be Music Television!
    KFC will always be Kentucky Fried Chicken!
    AT&T will always be SBC... wait... Pacific Bell (and friends)... no.. AT&T!

    WAKE UP SHEEPLE!

  70. How about the real news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Maybe an article on how Comcast is upgrading their already over-subscribed service to 100Mbps?

  71. Re:What about all of our comcast.net email account by plague3106 · · Score: 1

    Why? Because web mail blows. Horribly. The web as an application interface sucks a dick.

    I'll use outlook, thanks. And if my email changes.. well that's why I have a forwarder.

  72. Crack smokers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Somehow I don't think the old "Forget about our old crap, let's pull the wool over your eyes so the new crap we pull will take a while to sink in, then we can change our name again" switcheroo will work.

  73. Re:How stupid do they think we are? oh, wait ... by maxume · · Score: 1

    Yeah, but the point is more that the Verizon brand is only 10 years old.

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  74. OLD NEWS by Wisconsingod · · Score: 1

    Wow, This story sounded a bit familiar, the news hit over two weeks ago!
    http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20100203-708909.html?mod=WSJ_latestheadlines
    The piece of news that is happening is that they started Marketing it on Friday. Wow... a company comes out with a new ad campagin.... great slashdot news.

  75. Re:What about all of our comcast.net email account by Jeng · · Score: 1

    You do know that most webmail is compatible with outlook right?

    Actually I can't even think of one that isn't compatible with outlook.

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  76. "Competition" by ePhil_One · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Alas, the exclusivity agreements were a requirement to get the infrastructure built, noone wanted to invest the millions to string cable unless they were confident of recouping their investment, and as a one way network, installing it as a "shared resource" where competitors could access the lines after the installation investment was recovered isn't practical.

    I suspect part of the real reason Verizon and other Telcos are stringing fiber to compete with the cable companies is because:

    1) Their cable infrastructure needed major updating anyway, and simplifies management significantly

    2) Their landline business is drying up as consumers move to cell services. This allows them to capture more $$$ per household using the infrastructure they want to install anyway.

    Just spent a week at a friends place with Comcast, their cable internet went out about every hour with use, the techs say a modern spec cable needs to be run to teh house, but Comcast won't do it. I wonder how long it will take once the "Verizon FIOS in here" flyer shows up on their door?

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  77. They are clueless they offer free NHL CI 2/16 2/22 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They are clueless they offer free NHL CI 2/16 2/22 to bad that is the Olympics hockey brake.

  78. Re-Branding by Mike+Rice · · Score: 1

    Why does any company 're-brand' itself?
    What was wrong with the old brand?
    Finally, does a change in name equate to a change in fact?
    Just asking.

  79. ComCast customer "service" by Neil23 · · Score: 1

    A couple of years ago, I moved to a suburb which has a duopoly of ComCast & AT&T. I held my nose and signed up for ComCast cable internet service. I was careful to get a cable modem from their approved list.
    Two years later, the modem got really flakey and needs replacement. I checked the web site, and the list of cable modems there is so old most of them aren't made any more.
    So I wasted cellular minutes trying to get some semblance of current information from customer "service". I eventually found out that there is a list of approved models of cable modem which is less obsolete than the other, but I can't have a copy because it's secret!

  80. No, that make you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... their XBitch.

  81. Agreed - incompetence == win! by wsanders · · Score: 1

    I have nothing against Comcast. We had low (analog cable) signal levels a few years ago and the bunglers they sent out coudn't figure out what the problem was, so they just took all the traps out up and down the street and my whole block got free extended basic for free for 6 or 7 years. This only ended a couple months ago when they finally upgraded the neighborhood to digital.

    My employer's commercial service is a different story. It WAS rock solid stable for three years, until somebody firebombed the local head end last year. Then, it took them a month to get BGP stable. And Comcast still doesn't honor our AS prepending, so we have to go through various kludges to split our incoming routes between Comcast and our other providers.

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  82. So exactly how is this pronounced? by bearwayne · · Score: 2, Funny

    Xfinity.

    ECKS-finity
    ZIN-inity
    CROSS-finity
    OOOOPS-finity
    Hugs-n-kisses-finity
    ?

    1. Re:So exactly how is this pronounced? by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 1

      Ten-finity?

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  83. Xfinity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Rebranding to "Xfinity" is not likely to cause me to forget how absurdly cable subscription rates have risen recently nor is it likely to cause me to hate comcast any less for charging extra because a fricking tivo is plugged into my cable service.

  84. xfinity.com by farble1670 · · Score: 1

    when you go to xfinity.com and click "buy", you are right back at the old comcast site with all the same comcast services and prices. they really outdid themselves on this one.

  85. And In Other News by MightyMartian · · Score: 2, Funny

    Hell - Hell has announced plans to rebrand itself as XBoilingHot as part of its bid to transform itself from the realm of Eternal Damnation into a kinder, gentler den of infinite punishment.

    "This is part of an overall strategy to change our image in the eyes of our customers." Hell spokesman Adolf Hitler said. "I think we've got a bid of a bad rap, in part deserved, but in part because a lot of people just haven't given us an adequate chance."

    "There's a lot to be proud of!" Nebraska regional director Pol Pot said. "We've changed the whole operation around, streamlining it with an eye on increasing overall satisfaction. Complaints have dropped a solid 50%, and we haven't even introduced the new Infinite Voice Mail Queue and the pitchforks with the built in silencers so the agonies of the Damned don't overwhelm those listening to an eternity of Liberace playing the anthem of the USSR at triple tempo in 7/4 time."

    "It's a bit old-fashioned," says senior director of the market research division of Hell, Idi Amin. "I don't think our customers are going to be fooled by slick slogans. But we know they'll notice the difference."

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  86. Score 3, Informative? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Only on Slashdot...

  87. Crap by any other name by nurb432 · · Score: 1

    Is still crap. And people are stupid, it WILL be effective, for a while.

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    1. Re:Crap by any other name by Ardx · · Score: 0

      Sadly, (most likely) the only thing it really will do is cause pain because they will probably jack the comcast domain emails and force the customers to have to update any signups and lists they have.

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  88. Best way to cancel... by Temujin_12 · · Score: 1

    We dumped cable TV/Tivo over a year ago and now get all of our movies and TV programming via the internet (over the internet connection the cable company provides) or Netflix/Redbox . The best way to cancel to avoid much of the hassle in canceling cable services is to pack everything up (which you'd have to do anyways) but instead of mailing it in (giving them free-reign to claim you didn't send something) drive down to their offices and plop all of the equipment on a customer service rep's desk. They have no way to rebuttal against you since they'd have to tell you to pack everything back up and set it up again and they have no way to "claim" you lost something since they have to give you a receipt right there.

    BTW, I don't miss cable TV one bit and haven't run into bandwidth issues because we don't watch TV all day.

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  89. c_man by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    shit, by any other name, is still shit.

  90. Lipstick on a pig ... by bensode · · Score: 1
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  91. Buy your own modem. by cskrat · · Score: 1

    Comcast works well if you buy your own modem. This allows you to actually pick one based on specifications/reviews and they will generally last long enough to save you money on rental fees.

    With the exception of a brief interval on Knology, I've used Comcast internet service since they bought out the AT&T @Home service that I was on.

    With Comcast, I haven't had any real issues with service reliability or customer support. At least not since I decided to skip the rental modem lottery and buy my own from Newegg. Prior to buying my own modem, I had a service tech out 2-3 times per month to tell me that there was nothing wrong with the installation that would cause me to lose my connection several times a day.

    With Knology, however, I had nothing but terrible service and horrendous customer support. Comcast seems to be willing to invest the time and expense in maintaining and upgrading their networks, both the local systems and the national backbone. Knology in my area, however, has a very flaky local network ( to the point that customer service tried to convince me that 25% packet loss is normal and acceptable ) and that local network connects to the rest of the internet with an extremely oversubscribed link.

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  92. blackwater started a fad by volt4ire · · Score: 1

    Appears Blackwater started a trend when it rebranded itself Xe. Whatever the RIAA decides to rename itself, I'm sure it'll start with X

  93. Crapcast by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Maybe it's just because "Crapcast" has a much nicer ring to it than "Crapfinity"...

  94. But, will it help? by roc97007 · · Score: 1

    Ok, so Comcast has soiled their old trademark beyond redemption. Rebranding will at best buy them a little while, mostly with new customers. It only helps if you have a plan in place to fix the issues, which in this case are (1) customer service, (2) high prices, and (3) customer service. How much do you want to bet that instead, all the effort will go into marketing? They seem to have a basic inability to understand that crappy service is the issue.

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  95. better than Qwest. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I switched from Qwest to Comcast and in comparison, I'm very happy with Comcast. The tech support, the up-time, the speed. All much better.

  96. Re:What about all of our comcast.net email account by rcolbert · · Score: 1

    never use the email address provided by your ISP *and* Web portal email works much better

    It's a little presumptuous to make up random rules of thumb and offer them out as advice. Try a little supporting evidence such as...

    "Web portal email works better because..."

    "Portal xyz's offering was clearly viable and sustainable since your email address was first established so you should have gone with them instead..."

    Sounds like your suggestions are aimed at someone who just bought their first PC at Best Buy yesterday. Give a little credit to the community.

  97. I've had good experiences by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've been a Comcast internet customer for over 2 years. Their service is expensive relative to DSL, but the throughput, latency and tech support are top notch as far as I'm concerned. Every time I've called Comcast, I've never had to sit on hold, they've always addressed my issues immediately.

    Maybe people hate them because they're a big corporation?

  98. I hate incompetence too... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    especially those incompetent people who think yelling at incompetent people will actually get anything done.

    You should have hung up and sent a complaint after getting her info of course.

    then call back and see if you cant get someone else on the line.

    I'd love to say "hang up on them and it will make them look bad, but sadly, they get rewarded for the least time with a customer. So the people who will sit down and help you out and walk you through are punished for wasting time in these call centers as since you cant help the customer fast enough, you're failing at your job. someone who has a customer for a minute gets rewarded for great customer service skills while the guy on the line for 25 minutes trying to actually help gets reprimanded later for it.

    This comes from someone I know who worked at a subcontracted call center for t-mobile in canada.

    But for your own sanity, the instant they get stuck on stupid, hang up on them, make sure to let them know that they have been of no help. That stuff gets recorded.

  99. Screw Comcast by Bob_Who · · Score: 1

    ...really, screw them. They screw everyone...well, at least they screw all of their customers. Its a corporate greed, lack of ethics thing.

  100. Generation X marketing does not work anymore. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Putting X in front of something ceased to be a good hook the moment Harold and Kumar ran across those X! treme!!!! dudes in their movie.

  101. Ummm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Doesn't anyone else see the fact that they actually have a "Senior Vice President for the Greater Boston Region" as a bad thing?

  102. All jokes aside... by xtheunknown · · Score: 1

    I never thought I would say this, but Comcast has gotten better. I was getting frequent and repeated drops of my Internet connection and after the initial attempts to solve the problem remotely, they sent a guy to my condo. Surprisingly, not only did the guy know what he was doing, but he went the extra mile to fix my problem. This included crawling under a metal gate to get into the space under my building and going up on the pole multiple times. He found the problem (too many splits) and got the home office to rewire the pole correctly.

    I'm not saying this one event absolves Comcast of past sins, but if they keep on going in this direction, perhaps they will be worthy of their customer's business.

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  103. Re:What about all of our comcast.net email account by NJRoadfan · · Score: 1

    ISP changes name or web portal changes name. No difference from a user perspective; their email address might change either way.

    Buy a domain name and set up an e-mail address using that.

  104. Shit is still shit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Marketing people really get me. I doesn't matter if you call it poop, poo poo, feces, or stinky. Shit is still shit and it still smells bad. Whoop ee! lets git out our branding irons and brand them little doggies.

  105. Great names by CopaceticOpus · · Score: 1

    Looking forward to the merger of Xfinity with the Sy Fy channel...

    "XSyFynyty"

  106. As a result, with they.... by dwiget001 · · Score: 1

    ... actually improve their customer service?

    If not, then the new name doesn't mean a f*cking thing.

  107. Re:Xfinity equals... MOD PARENT UP!!! by QuietObserver · · Score: 1

    My kingdom for a mod point. That's better than my definition for Comcastic: "Your screwed, no matter what you do".

  108. Christ-finity? by xrayspx · · Score: 1

    Good luck with all that, X-Bandwagon-Jumpers. So glad I dropped Comcast, now the latest in the "nonsense branding" war. ComCast could be shown to mean something, anything "Communications" "Broadcast" "ComCast". WTF is an Xfinity?

  109. kind of, but doing it badly by name_already_taken · · Score: 1

    Except Uverse is a different service than anything AT&T was offering before. It's IPTV with fiber to the neighborhood. I have it, and it works really well.

    Comcast is just changing the name of the same service they're already selling. That sounds like something companies do when their product is known for killing people and they wan't everyone to forget that.

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    1. Re:kind of, but doing it badly by name_already_taken · · Score: 1

      I can't believe I put an apostrophe in the word "want".

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  110. John Smith Jr 3rd by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Comcast turned on the XFINITY upgrade in my town last week. This is what happened.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tg9hRZ-3heE