It pays for CDs if we must buy them for shows. It pay for appearances at shows. Sometimes it pays for bandwidth and hardware upgrades to our poor bloated FTP arhivers.:) Note, most CDs are donated to us. That ultra 60 is being used to further porting efforts. The sparcs that have actually been recieved by developers have gone to the most active sparc porters from what I've seen. There are 3 sparc boxes that we don't physically have. They are maintained by kachina and run an autobuilder to recompile all of the i386 debs that are uploaded. Any more questions?
I noticed that the search thing at the bottom of the page is pre-filled in with "Microsoft". Conspiracy maybe? Being payed off? Maybe this is like those 6 page ad things MS takes out that look like a real article? Who knows but it's not very objective whatever it is.
Dang it. Thought I would broaden my horizons and installed 4.0 just last night... I will say I'm very impressed with the speed of FreeBSD, I/O seems much faster than Linux w/ext2. The bing util reports much higher speeds between two BSD (Open and Free) than between Linux and *BSD. Quite nice!
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Even the stats page is whacked. It redirects you to some dumbass and the fag page...
There has been talk of getting the helix guys to take over Debian's gnome stuff. We always seem to be behind and things never work quite right. It would be great for the users and us maintainers if helix could take all gnome packages for us.
From: valinux@db.com To: valinux@db.com Subject: VA Linux Directed Share Program Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 19:22:52 -0500 Importance: high X-Priority: 1 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8)
The confirmation of pricing and your share allocation of VA Linux Systems will now be Thursday morning at approximately 7:00 a.m. PST. We will be contacting you at that time. It will not be tonight as originally planned.
This "project" is currently not official. It is being worked on by a few developers that are doing this without the support of Debian as a whole. By readin ghte lists it is very hard to tell wether it's going to be official or not.
I cannot get over how Apple has made made move that seem to have put them on the come back, then smash all their work with bad PR. I think it's sad to see that they ince lead the way in computing. Ok, so they stole an idea or two from Xerox... But at one time all you saw in schools and such was Apple II machines. They were everywhere, but once again Apple has hurt themselves with their own stupidity/ego/cluelessness. *sigh*
It was on that badass little graphic. There are links to info about LOC records in Bind8 that hold longitude and latitude info. You can then be plotted on the map. Or something like that. I just went for more of the purtty pictures.:)
Well, since I spent several years in the Army, they have even more records of me. They have fingerprints, medical history, dental records, pictures, clothing measurements, shot records, family info, insurance info, pay info and they even do DNA sampling. Yikes.
Oh, and when you qouted my comment you picked off the:). And the State of Texas has already got the digital photo thingy for the drivers licenses. We also have the "mystery" magnetic strip on the back. Ooooh. Scary stuff.:)
Just like gun control issues. Are the "illegal aliens and boogeymen" going to register a gun or get a drivers license? You can drive without one for Lord knows how long, if you drive halfway decent. And guns will always be on the black-market. I am all for privacy. But do you remember that national datbase we already have here in the US? It's call Social Security. Dang near everybody born in the US has a number... Maybe they could just tattoo that on us. Grrr!
Did you NOT noticed the ':)' at the end there? And no, it's SWB has a different DSL setup than PACBELL, so it's not SBC. If you use your ATM25 connector of you speak ATM to the modem. And what protocol do you have to bind to the NIC in your machine to make it talk to the 'modem'? IP. An ethernet card doesn't do ATM. And as for the breakage, ask many of the USWest users. As far as I know they ARE doing the switch to PPP. So it CAN happen.
The only place the G.lit or any other protocol matters is on the side of the DSL "modem" that pluges into the wall. Most of these units connect to your PC via ethernet. So as long as they run IP between you and the modem it shouldn't matter. Now, if your phone co. changes to G.lite, you may need to buy a new modem. As I will if SWB changes. Dang them!:)
Hmmm, looking at your comment history shows quite a bit about you. If you wish to join the grownups that have "work" to do, you might lay off the lame gay comments. And I assume you like the pile of junk paper that gets shipped to you everyday along with your 'real' mail? I guess you think it's right for us to bear the cost of man power to to filter spam from our networks? And I ask you too, can I redirect all spam I get to YOUR mailbox?
Ok, first off. Don't edit my post to fit your argument. I didn't write "VIOLATED". Being such an influential company and being in the spot light they way they are, I think this was a bad move. Most of the people i know in the "community" despise SPAM. Now, if they are like most admins or internet users, they have enough spam to fight already. You would probably be rather irritated if Debian mailed you with news of a new release (reaching here, we have no stock and sell no products). You didn't ask for the mail and your address was harvested in some fashion from mailing lists or something. The Internet is clogged with spam. I use all spamblock methods I can, and STILL get tons of the crap. Maybe you like it. Can we all re-direct our spam to you? In short, I think it reflects poorly on RedHat.
I am a Debian developer. I posted the RedHat mail. That action had nothing to do with the way Debian as a whole feels or believes. I am an individual and I posted the mail on my own, and not on the behalf of Debian.
I do think many of us do feel violated by a company that we thought held the same values as us. But they do this and make themselves no better than cyber-promo (you gotta remember these dorks). Spam is spam, no matter how you look at it. We did not ask for it. Many of us got hit on our @debian.org addresses, not our own home addy. I PERSONALLY think RedHat is demonstrating it's MS'ishness. Again, these comments are MINE, not Debian. I'm just to lazy to make my own l/p.
It pays for CDs if we must buy them for shows. It pay for appearances at shows. Sometimes it pays for bandwidth and hardware upgrades to our poor bloated FTP arhivers. :) Note, most CDs are donated to us. That ultra 60 is being used to further porting efforts. The sparcs that have actually been recieved by developers have gone to the most active sparc porters from what I've seen. There are 3 sparc boxes that we don't physically have. They are maintained by kachina and run an autobuilder to recompile all of the i386 debs that are uploaded. Any more questions?
I noticed that the search thing at the bottom of the page is pre-filled in with "Microsoft". Conspiracy maybe? Being payed off? Maybe this is like those 6 page ad things MS takes out that look like a real article? Who knows but it's not very objective whatever it is.
Dang it. Thought I would broaden my horizons and installed 4.0 just last night... I will say I'm very impressed with the speed of FreeBSD, I/O seems much faster than Linux w/ext2. The bing util reports much higher speeds between two BSD (Open and Free) than between Linux and *BSD. Quite nice!
Even the stats page is whacked. It redirects you to some dumbass and the fag page...
There has been talk of getting the helix guys to take over Debian's gnome stuff. We always seem to be behind and things never work quite right. It would be great for the users and us maintainers if helix could take all gnome packages for us.
How many total sigs are there so far?
Debian GNU/V2OS? :)
Not really. But who knows...
From: valinux@db.com
To: valinux@db.com
Subject: VA Linux Directed Share Program
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 19:22:52 -0500
Importance: high
X-Priority: 1
X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8)
The confirmation of pricing and your share allocation of VA Linux Systems
will now be Thursday morning at approximately 7:00 a.m. PST. We will be
contacting you at that time. It will not be tonight as originally planned.
This "project" is currently not official. It is being worked on by a few developers that are doing this without the support of Debian as a whole. By readin ghte lists it is very hard to tell wether it's going to be official or not.
I cannot get over how Apple has made made move that seem to have put them on the come back, then smash all their work with bad PR. I think it's sad to see that they ince lead the way in computing. Ok, so they stole an idea or two from Xerox... But at one time all you saw in schools and such was Apple II machines. They were everywhere, but once again Apple has hurt themselves with their own stupidity/ego/cluelessness. *sigh*
http://www.caida.org/Tools/Plankton
:)
It was on that badass little graphic. There are links to info about LOC records in Bind8 that hold longitude and latitude info. You can then be plotted on the map. Or something like that. I just went for more of the purtty pictures.
Well, since I spent several years in the Army, they have even more records of me. They have fingerprints, medical history, dental records, pictures, clothing measurements, shot records, family info, insurance info, pay info and they even do DNA sampling. Yikes.
:). And the State of Texas has already got the digital photo thingy for the drivers licenses. We also have the "mystery" magnetic strip on the back. Ooooh. Scary stuff. :)
Oh, and when you qouted my comment you picked off the
Uhhh. Please don't clone him! Like we need MORE Anonymous Cowards... :)
Just like gun control issues. Are the "illegal aliens and boogeymen" going to register a gun or get a drivers license? You can drive without one for Lord knows how long, if you drive halfway decent. And guns will always be on the black-market. I am all for privacy. But do you remember that national datbase we already have here in the US? It's call Social Security. Dang near everybody born in the US has a number... Maybe they could just tattoo that on us. Grrr!
Oh, and as for the "OSI conforming software", there is a standard that Debian follows. It's called the DFSG, or Debian Free Software Guidelines.
Just because you can read it doesn't make it "Open Source", or "open" "source". Or any of the other ways to capitalize it.
LPRNG
Did you NOT noticed the ':)' at the end there? And no, it's SWB has a different DSL setup than PACBELL, so it's not SBC. If you use your ATM25 connector of you speak ATM to the modem. And what protocol do you have to bind to the NIC in your machine to make it talk to the 'modem'? IP. An ethernet card doesn't do ATM. And as for the breakage, ask many of the USWest users. As far as I know they ARE doing the switch to PPP. So it CAN happen.
The only place the G.lit or any other protocol matters is on the side of the DSL "modem" that pluges into the wall. Most of these units connect to your PC via ethernet. So as long as they run IP between you and the modem it shouldn't matter. Now, if your phone co. changes to G.lite, you may need to buy a new modem. As I will if SWB changes. Dang them! :)
Hmmm, looking at your comment history shows quite a bit about you. If you wish to join the grownups that have "work" to do, you might lay off the lame gay comments. And I assume you like the pile of junk paper that gets shipped to you everyday along with your 'real' mail? I guess you think it's right for us to bear the cost of man power to to filter spam from our networks? And I ask you too, can I redirect all spam I get to YOUR mailbox?
So if you make/write/create something that anybody uses, that person has the right to e-mail you sales offers?
See the original post you replied to.
Thank you, drive through...
Oh, and get a l/p for yourself. Don't hide behind AC.
Disclaimer: Again, this is me. NOT Debian speaking.
Ok, first off. Don't edit my post to fit your argument. I didn't write "VIOLATED". Being such an influential company and being in the spot light they way they are, I think this was a bad move. Most of the people i know in the "community" despise SPAM. Now, if they are like most admins or internet users, they have enough spam to fight already. You would probably be rather irritated if Debian mailed you with news of a new release (reaching here, we have no stock and sell no products). You didn't ask for the mail and your address was harvested in some fashion from mailing lists or something. The Internet is clogged with spam. I use all spamblock methods I can, and STILL get tons of the crap. Maybe you like it. Can we all re-direct our spam to you? In short, I think it reflects poorly on RedHat.
I am a Debian developer. I posted the RedHat mail. That action had nothing to do with the way Debian as a whole feels or believes. I am an individual and I posted the mail on my own, and not on the behalf of Debian.
I do think many of us do feel violated by a company that we thought held the same values as us. But they do this and make themselves no better than cyber-promo (you gotta remember these dorks). Spam is spam, no matter how you look at it. We did not ask for it. Many of us got hit on our @debian.org addresses, not our own home addy. I PERSONALLY think RedHat is demonstrating it's MS'ishness. Again, these comments are MINE, not Debian. I'm just to lazy to make my own l/p.
Thanks,
Erick Kinnee
ekinnee1@airmail.net