Not funny, not funny, not funny.;) I've had the pleasure of coding for a Company that wants to take a perfectly fast and intelligent binary format and convert it to some ambiguous XML-ish format, because it gives the Marketing people joneses.
Actually, the guys at Xi appear to have their sights set on making a video codec as well.. But they're doing first things first, by doing Vorbis for audio data. Look at the earlier mentionings of Ogg Vorbis in Slashdot, and you'll read more about it.
Anyone ever play the Red Storm game 'ruthless.com', released about a year ago? Ruthless represents the software market as a grid of squares, where a company may establish its presence via research, marketing, shady tactics, etc.. Whoever had the most 'market share' in a niche, gained profit from it.
Anyway.. There was a dirty scorched earth tactic called 'Open Source', where you made a produce open source, and increased the quality of the product 10x, damn near killing the competition's share competing with the product.
Only problem? You don't make any money from it either.. But/damn/, does it ruin the enemy's plans. Anyone see parallels between Sun and Microsoft, here?;)
Objective-C is, in and of itself, a wonderful langauge, but comes with very little functionality. Even many of the fundamental object capabilities depended on NeXT's FoundationKit et al, which for a long time, was only available in Nextstep, and just before NeXT's assimilation by Apple, in Openstep, which was Nextstep's libraries licensed to other vendors.
The GNUStep project is trying to get these libraries up to speed, meeting and in some cases exceeding the OpenStep specs, but without them, it is very difficult to develop in Objective-C on any platform but NextStep or that rare zebra, OpenStep for Solaris.
For more info on GNUStep, I suggest looking at newsWire.
FreeNet, the project, doesn't really rely on each node having a discrete and named identify, AFAIK. It's the actual data that has a 'key' or name, and it shuffles from node to node, according to how often it is being accessed via that node.
But yes, this looks like one of those cases where we should all just find a way to pick up our toys and play somewhere else. The DNS bureaucracy is now quite firmly in the pocket of 'e-business', and perhaps it's time to just toss it aside and move to something more anarchic.
Here's an idea.. On each local machine, maintain a list of 'top-level' hosts, each of which are running a resolution service mapping out to a considerable portion of the network. Then, each host maintains a map to more hosts.. And so on, and so on. There could be multiple ways to resolve to an address, this way, and if you didn't like the behavior of one host, you could simply transition to another.
www@amazon@CorporateProvider (CorporateProvider being some company you've entered into your local mappings.)
Don't laugh, but before I actually started using the internet, this is how I thought the DNS system functioned. Sure, it's a bit more chaotic than the current system, but it's also a lot harder for corporate interests to capture.
And evidently you venerate Messr. Gates and his Marketing Dept.. The FUD is getting a little thick in here. Let's say they/do/ start making money on the side with their update system. Let's say they make money supporting the software.
Do you not still have the source? Can you not still compile it / modify it / package it / start your own update system ?
Take your bait, tackle, and go troll somewhere else.
Sigh. You sound just like the people in the article, focussing on the hardware too much, and not thinking about why it was put together. NextStep was built with a very solid interface, at a time when only one other OS provided one, MacOS, and when all the unixen were stabbing in the dark with X.
It had a solid kernel. It had very intelligent application layout, and some APIs that still outclass many of what we're dealing with the in the open source movement today. The biggest problem with NeXT was that they focussed too much on having insanely great hardware (and insanely expensive), and didn't mention their insanely great software enough.
And it seems, Mac is going to repeat history with OS X, tying it to the G3s and G4s, while leaving the other PowerPCs in the dark, even the third-party accelerator boards aren't going to be supported.. At least they'll be leaving Darwin in their wake before they go under.
Well. The justification for doing this is twofold: 1) The ports system does better at version-to-version compatability. Many ports are only very lightly maintained, as opposed to the packages which are built and tested as a part of the release process. Therefore the ports tend to include things not in such popular demand. 2) Using the ports over just the original author's makefile, is that the ports are usually more careful to adhere to the FreeBSD standards for what goes where and how, than these authors are. See also the '/usr/local/', '/opt/', '//bin/lib/share/whatever' holy wars that rage in your nearest unix shop.
If they're acting like the Author did, it's less like activism, more like playing chicken. I think if we posted a report about people trying to challenge freight trains to head butting contests, you'd hear the same 'defensive' behavior.
For crying out loud, he didn't even say what he was protesting to the cameras! Did he even know? His account states that he saw someone he wanted to be respected by, and used a proxy to secure a position. Didn't mention him actually asking 'Hey. What are you protesting? Really? How can I help?'
Right. And the Democrats are basically the same thing.. Except they're much less obvious about it, and take more money from foreign governments than they do from the private sector.
Only less so, on both sides, because some people are actually politicians because they want to fix a problem, not fill their wallet. Frankly, there are much easier ways for an educated man to make money. These politicos are addicted to contributions, because it fills warchests for their attempts to buy elections.
The problem with tyranny is that it is infectious. Once you've been subjected to it, people tend to think it's the only solution once they've gotten rid of the tyrants.
Actually, from the police's point of view, it's an intelligent move. There is an assemblage of people that they are protecting from what may become a violent action. We have justified their views, by the actions in Seattle, and other recent protests, where individuals/have/ destroyed property and threatened personages.
One image that comes to mind is that of a man raising a trashcan at a Starbucks window in the Seattle protest. The media showed this one looter to the world, and every mayor since has sworn to defecate on the constitution, if that is what it takes to protect his city.
Indeed. The poor and needy should protest for themselves. Let the Dominican Damnificados come to our shores, hitchhike to Philadelphia, and complain about their labor rights while their families starve.
Let the political prisoners have a pass from their nearly forgotton prisons, to stand in our streets and remind the government that its first and foremost responsibility is to mankind, not just those that line their pockets.
You make me sick. You don't want to see what is going on around you? Don't worry.. You seem to be doing a good job of ignoring it this far.
Nothing like the song of 'Not in My Backyard' eh? I grew up in one of those parks, and my grandfather was one of those immigrants you wouldn't have let in. I hope you're merely trying to be funny.
You catch more flies with honey, than vinegar. Which group got more done, in the ongoing battles against discrimination and segregation? Martin Luther King, or the Black Panthers?
What got the British to accept the fact that other nations weren't chattel, to be held and exploited like a resource? The American Revolution, or Ghandi's nonviolent protests?
The fact of the matter is, people today are scared. They don't want to upset the quo, because all they know is the current authoritarian government. By becoming more terrifying than the government, you run the risk of not only justifying the violence of the establishment against you, but also cause the people you are trying to help to fear you.
Don't make it easy for them. Don't give the media a chance to portray you as a bunch of drug addicts and gun nuts trying to overthrow the government. Think and look smart in your protests.
The author, while his heart is in the right place, perhaps, his head wasn't, until he was already in custody. If the officer wants to see what is in your pack, politely say, "I'm sorry, officer, but you need a warrant." If he insists on identification, or information, again,/politely/ ask for your lawyer.
Don't dress in the latest downtown Kosovo styles, but dress intelligently. Unless there is a reason to be costumed, for example the media-savvy homeless protest mentioned earlier, dress much like those you are protesting. Not only does it make it harder for them to identify the protesters before the protest, but it helps your media image. Everyone expects starving college students to protest. Who expects the well fed, but still outraged I/T professional?
And please, try to keep in mind, that some of the people working for the powers that be, don't do it for an ego trip, or for the money, or because they are, innately, evil. They do it, because they are trying to change things from the inside, and that things would be worse if they weren't there.
It's getting better.. In M17, XPI installation became available, which should outstrip those two packaging methods. XPI files, when selected in Mozilla, cause the browser to notify the user that this is an installation package, and asks nicely whether he wants to let it in.
Of course, at the moment, skins are often milestone specific, so you're going to have trouble with anything outside of Modern, Classic and MozBilla with M17.
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No, they just want you to/think/ you have to register. What they're 'offering' is to join Netcenter, except, as of 4am this morning you couldn't join Netcenter, even if you wanted to.
You mean an ftp connection.. And I don't quite think that's a trojan, friend.. It's a mirror. The last one in the sequence, in fact.
You probably missed the six or so between netscape.com and mcom.com, because they all failed so fast. If you cancel the first transfer, and proceed, you'll get the aberration called PR2.
Frankly, you'd be better off with M17 or a M18 nightly, unless you really can't live without netphone. AOL really made a mess with PR2.
That ram footprint is not entirely code. There could be dynamically allocated ram included for maintaining the render tree, history, etc.. But, you are most likely correct that under WinNT 4 less of IE is preloaded, since, for some reason, they didn't toss out the original explorer for MSIE.
Anybody else remember back when Apple had a ton of similar macintoshes, with different cases, and different prices, and noone could tell the difference?
They about ran themselves into the grave with that nonsense. Does it look like Palm is doing the same thing, now?
Sounds like my foolish datamemo watch.. I bought it, so I could read the numbers without my glasses, and never did quite figure out what to do with the memory function.
Probably has something to do with the fact that I don't really touch phones anymore.
No. He's obviously confused. As of MS-DOS 6.1, it was still that nasty int 21h routine.. Of course, they/could/ have changed it for 95.. It's deucedly hard to find interrupt references after MSDOS 6.
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Not funny, not funny, not funny. ;) I've had the pleasure of coding for a Company that wants to take a perfectly fast and intelligent binary format and convert it to some ambiguous XML-ish format, because it gives the Marketing people joneses.
RTFA. (Read the f***ing article.) Two individuals from IceCast are adapting their software to stream Vorbis.
Actually, the guys at Xi appear to have their sights set on making a video codec as well.. But they're doing first things first, by doing Vorbis for audio data. Look at the earlier mentionings of Ogg Vorbis in Slashdot, and you'll read more about it.
Anyone ever play the Red Storm game 'ruthless.com', released about a year ago? Ruthless represents the software market as a grid of squares, where a company may establish its presence via research, marketing, shady tactics, etc.. Whoever had the most 'market share' in a niche, gained profit from it.
/damn/, does it ruin the enemy's plans. Anyone see parallels between Sun and Microsoft, here? ;)
Anyway.. There was a dirty scorched earth tactic called 'Open Source', where you made a produce open source, and increased the quality of the product 10x, damn near killing the competition's share competing with the product.
Only problem? You don't make any money from it either.. But
Objective-C is, in and of itself, a wonderful langauge, but comes with very little functionality. Even many of the fundamental object capabilities depended on NeXT's FoundationKit et al, which for a long time, was only available in Nextstep, and just before NeXT's assimilation by Apple, in Openstep, which was Nextstep's libraries licensed to other vendors.
The GNUStep project is trying to get these libraries up to speed, meeting and in some cases exceeding the OpenStep specs, but without them, it is very difficult to develop in Objective-C on any platform but NextStep or that rare zebra, OpenStep for Solaris.
For more info on GNUStep, I suggest looking at newsWire.
FreeNet, the project, doesn't really rely on each node having a discrete and named identify, AFAIK. It's the actual data that has a 'key' or name, and it shuffles from node to node, according to how often it is being accessed via that node.
But yes, this looks like one of those cases where we should all just find a way to pick up our toys and play somewhere else. The DNS bureaucracy is now quite firmly in the pocket of 'e-business', and perhaps it's time to just toss it aside and move to something more anarchic.
Here's an idea.. On each local machine, maintain a list of 'top-level' hosts, each of which are running a resolution service mapping out to a considerable portion of the network. Then, each host maintains a map to more hosts.. And so on, and so on. There could be multiple ways to resolve to an address, this way, and if you didn't like the behavior of one host, you could simply transition to another.
www@amazon@CorporateProvider (CorporateProvider being some company you've entered into your local mappings.)
www@slashdot@CorporateProvider
www@slashdot@gnu
www@slashdot@eff
Don't laugh, but before I actually started using the internet, this is how I thought the DNS system functioned. Sure, it's a bit more chaotic than the current system, but it's also a lot harder for corporate interests to capture.
And evidently you venerate Messr. Gates and his Marketing Dept.. The FUD is getting a little thick in here. Let's say they /do/ start making money on the side with their update system. Let's say they make money supporting the software.
Do you not still have the source? Can you not still compile it / modify it / package it / start your own update system ?
Take your bait, tackle, and go troll somewhere else.
Sigh. You sound just like the people in the article, focussing on the hardware too much, and not thinking about why it was put together. NextStep was built with a very solid interface, at a time when only one other OS provided one, MacOS, and when all the unixen were stabbing in the dark with X.
It had a solid kernel. It had very intelligent application layout, and some APIs that still outclass many of what we're dealing with the in the open source movement today. The biggest problem with NeXT was that they focussed too much on having insanely great hardware (and insanely expensive), and didn't mention their insanely great software enough.
And it seems, Mac is going to repeat history with OS X, tying it to the G3s and G4s, while leaving the other PowerPCs in the dark, even the third-party accelerator boards aren't going to be supported.. At least they'll be leaving Darwin in their wake before they go under.
You're not the only one, Free.. Taco, you need either more caffiene, or some sleep. I don't think today's article was even English.
Well. The justification for doing this is twofold: 1) The ports system does better at version-to-version compatability. Many ports are only very lightly maintained, as opposed to the packages which are built and tested as a part of the release process. Therefore the ports tend to include things not in such popular demand. 2) Using the ports over just the original author's makefile, is that the ports are usually more careful to adhere to the FreeBSD standards for what goes where and how, than these authors are. See also the '/usr/local/', '/opt/', '//bin /lib /share /whatever' holy wars that rage in your nearest unix shop.
If they're acting like the Author did, it's less like activism, more like playing chicken. I think if we posted a report about people trying to challenge freight trains to head butting contests, you'd hear the same 'defensive' behavior.
For crying out loud, he didn't even say what he was protesting to the cameras! Did he even know? His account states that he saw someone he wanted to be respected by, and used a proxy to secure a position. Didn't mention him actually asking 'Hey. What are you protesting? Really? How can I help?'
Right. And the Democrats are basically the same thing.. Except they're much less obvious about it, and take more money from foreign governments than they do from the private sector. Only less so, on both sides, because some people are actually politicians because they want to fix a problem, not fill their wallet. Frankly, there are much easier ways for an educated man to make money. These politicos are addicted to contributions, because it fills warchests for their attempts to buy elections.
The problem with tyranny is that it is infectious. Once you've been subjected to it, people tend to think it's the only solution once they've gotten rid of the tyrants.
Actually, from the police's point of view, it's an intelligent move. There is an assemblage of people that they are protecting from what may become a violent action. We have justified their views, by the actions in Seattle, and other recent protests, where individuals /have/ destroyed property and threatened personages.
One image that comes to mind is that of a man raising a trashcan at a Starbucks window in the Seattle protest. The media showed this one looter to the world, and every mayor since has sworn to defecate on the constitution, if that is what it takes to protect his city.
Perhaps.. It's Jon Katz under an alias! Slashdot Conspiracy alert!
Indeed. The poor and needy should protest for themselves. Let the Dominican Damnificados come to our shores, hitchhike to Philadelphia, and complain about their labor rights while their families starve.
Let the political prisoners have a pass from their nearly forgotton prisons, to stand in our streets and remind the government that its first and foremost responsibility is to mankind, not just those that line their pockets.
You make me sick. You don't want to see what is going on around you? Don't worry.. You seem to be doing a good job of ignoring it this far.
Nothing like the song of 'Not in My Backyard' eh? I grew up in one of those parks, and my grandfather was one of those immigrants you wouldn't have let in. I hope you're merely trying to be funny.
You catch more flies with honey, than vinegar. Which group got more done, in the ongoing battles against discrimination and segregation? Martin Luther King, or the Black Panthers?
/politely/ ask for your lawyer.
What got the British to accept the fact that other nations weren't chattel, to be held and exploited like a resource? The American Revolution, or Ghandi's nonviolent protests?
The fact of the matter is, people today are scared. They don't want to upset the quo, because all they know is the current authoritarian government. By becoming more terrifying than the government, you run the risk of not only justifying the violence of the establishment against you, but also cause the people you are trying to help to fear you.
Don't make it easy for them. Don't give the media a chance to portray you as a bunch of drug addicts and gun nuts trying to overthrow the government. Think and look smart in your protests.
The author, while his heart is in the right place, perhaps, his head wasn't, until he was already in custody. If the officer wants to see what is in your pack, politely say, "I'm sorry, officer, but you need a warrant." If he insists on identification, or information, again,
Don't dress in the latest downtown Kosovo styles, but dress intelligently. Unless there is a reason to be costumed, for example the media-savvy homeless protest mentioned earlier, dress much like those you are protesting. Not only does it make it harder for them to identify the protesters before the protest, but it helps your media image. Everyone expects starving college students to protest. Who expects the well fed, but still outraged I/T professional?
And please, try to keep in mind, that some of the people working for the powers that be, don't do it for an ego trip, or for the money, or because they are, innately, evil. They do it, because they are trying to change things from the inside, and that things would be worse if they weren't there.
It's getting better.. In M17, XPI installation became available, which should outstrip those two packaging methods. XPI files, when selected in Mozilla, cause the browser to notify the user that this is an installation package, and asks nicely whether he wants to let it in.
Of course, at the moment, skins are often milestone specific, so you're going to have trouble with anything outside of Modern, Classic and MozBilla with M17.
No, they just want you to /think/ you have to register. What they're 'offering' is to join Netcenter, except, as of 4am this morning you couldn't join Netcenter, even if you wanted to.
You mean an ftp connection.. And I don't quite think that's a trojan, friend.. It's a mirror. The last one in the sequence, in fact.
You probably missed the six or so between netscape.com and mcom.com, because they all failed so fast. If you cancel the first transfer, and proceed, you'll get the aberration called PR2.
Frankly, you'd be better off with M17 or a M18 nightly, unless you really can't live without netphone. AOL really made a mess with PR2.
That ram footprint is not entirely code. There could be dynamically allocated ram included for maintaining the render tree, history, etc.. But, you are most likely correct that under WinNT 4 less of IE is preloaded, since, for some reason, they didn't toss out the original explorer for MSIE.
Anybody else remember back when Apple had a ton of similar macintoshes, with different cases, and different prices, and noone could tell the difference?
They about ran themselves into the grave with that nonsense. Does it look like Palm is doing the same thing, now?
Sounds like my foolish datamemo watch.. I bought it, so I could read the numbers without my glasses, and never did quite figure out what to do with the memory function.
Probably has something to do with the fact that I don't really touch phones anymore.
No. He's obviously confused. As of MS-DOS 6.1, it was still that nasty int 21h routine.. Of course, they /could/ have changed it for 95.. It's deucedly hard to find interrupt references after MSDOS 6.