When one of the headhunters finds what you're looking for but doesn't tell you, and then hides in your garbage, it might be tempting to fire them - but it's important to remember that headhunters are very clever - by following the target discreetly in this fashion it is more probable that the target will grow complacent, and thus vulnerable to a trap.
Yeah, that'll happen right after the Big Mac that I order ends up looking just like the one in the commercial.
Hey, you know - a few key advancements in the field of edible films and dyes and this could happen... Granted, this would mean every part of the burger would need to be manufactured via this process, probably not grilled at the restaurant, and assembled with greater consistency than is done now - but there's no reason the burger components couldn't come pre-coated with a thick layer of edible film manufactured to reproduce the desired texture and flavor, and prepainted to provide the desired color and reflectivity... They could probably bill it as some kind of nutritional enhancement (same great greasy flavor without all that grease!) in order to get people to accept it...
I really wish people would stop calling "capitalism evil". Capitalism is nothing more than your neighbor building a chair, or bed, or whatever his specialty might be, and you saying, "That's really nice, can I buy it or give you something else for trade?" That's capitalism and it's not evil. It's the basis of human interaction between neighbors and goes-back 5000 years.
So.... where does capital enter into this little exchange?
Partly agreed, but if the app is HTML/Java and can run in a web-browser like environment then you can find such an app on the web anyway and already. What is the point ?
Being able to run it without being connected to the web, of course... Even if you've got a data plan on your phone, there are situations (like poor reception, or too many people using the network) where it's not practical to rely upon it.
they are barring open source/free software -- they want money --
I think there was some SNAFU there. (This is Palm, after all... I'd feel comfortable labeling them as "fuck-up kings" at this point...) But regardless, this just applies to the application store.
while openly promoting low-end application interface (web) that can't bring the added value, this is plain stupid, sorry, but this got failure drawn all over.
Well, I tend to agree, personally. I think it's stupid for an embedded platform's applications to be written in a scripting language...
But bear in mind that this isn't strictly a web API. Javascript applications on WebOS have access to APIs specific to WebOS.
Additionally, I wouldn't call web applications a "low-end interface" these days. Improvements to CSS and greater usage of Javascript have changed that. The only things "low-end" about it are the network lag times (which don't apply to an app running locally on your phone) and, IMO, the process of coding for that platform. But from an end-user standpoint web interfaces tend to be quite good these days.
Do not confuse thin HTML/Javascript frontends for server services like/. or Google maps with application software.
There's two sides to this thing...
First - I have to say that a lot of these web applications really are quite comparable to locally-hosted desktop applications in terms of what they do.
But the choice of HTML and Javascript in that sort of environment is almost unavoidable, so it doesn't lend much support to the idea that these are good choices for writing an application that doesn't need to run on a web server...
Comparing Palm's WebOS development environment (a "1") to the Windows Mobile SDK (a "5") or the iPhone SDK (a "9") is like comparing a kids tricycle to a top-of-the line motorcycle from Honda or BMW.
Personally I don't believe the "flamebait" mod you got was necessarily justified... But could you elaborate a bit? I haven't used any of the SDKs you mentioned...
It's called WebOS, which is basically Extended JavaScript (for hardware API calls) and HTML. There are some decent tutorials on their developer website, plus O'Reilly has a decent book out for the development on it already.
Proof, IMO, that Palm, who had allowed their PalmOS platform to slowly fester and die over a period of several years, is now fully deranged. Hey everybody... here's a portable device. It has limited storage and battery resources. So how about we all write apps for it using a frikkin' scripting language?
The bright side, I've heard, is that one can write modules in C or C++ in such a way that they can then be called from the Javascript environment of the phone...
Who says webOS won't get ported a la Rockbox? And after all, Linux will run on almost anything. I can see where eventually phones will become just like desktops and laptops - pick yer OS.
At present there's too many hardware differences between platforms for this to be viable. If your OS is built around a particular screen resolution, a multi-touch screen, a hardware keyboard, motion sensor, etc. then the applications written for it won't work nicely on hardware that doesn't fit that rough description...
(Side note: What's with these 1300mAH batteries? I think smartphone makers need to get more realistic about battery needs on these things... If that means it's bigger, then it's bigger... At least I won't be constantly running out of power...)
This is just proof that you can put any sort of crap to great music such as John Williams and make it look interesting. How many movies has he saved, anyway?
Reading that review makes me want to dust-off my old Atari, Nintendo, and Sega Genesis consoles, and relive the days when gaming was FUN rather than a chore. The PSP Go sounds like a royal piece of shit, especially the part where you have to waste 2-3 hours downloading games.
Yeah, 802.11b is inexcusable for a device like this in the present day...
I use hacked firmware on my PSP, sure, because I rip my games to MemStick.... But I still pay for games and will continue to do so. I will also crack the Go if I ever get one because you can bet your ass that there won't be a mechanism to resell games you've bought, plus I would feel the moral right to transfer my current UMD based games.
Moral right? You have already lost the moral argument by supporting Sony in the first place. "Ripping your games to MemStick"? Have you heard of this "Micro SD" that the rest of the industry uses? Sony is worse than every other company out there when it comes to promoting its own "standards" when there is already a perfectly good alternative, and until that changes I'll continue to recommend to everyone I know that they avoid Sony products completely.
Oddly, I don't care.
I mean, back in, like, 2000 or whatever, when I got my TRGPro, I thought it was dandy to be able to use the same 64MB compact flash card (Retail price at the time: $150) on both the handheld and my digital camera. Even through 2002 or 2003 with the early Tungsten devices, I felt that having the same memory card format on both my Palm and my camera was a very valuable thing, and I would share cards between devices. And for the longest time I thought hardware designs where micro-SD slots or whatever weren't accessible on the machine's exterior were inherently bad.
These days, flash memory is cheap, small USB card readers are cheap... It would be nice to be able to load the memory cards used by my game machines directly into my laptop or desktop PC - but really, it's not the end of the world if I can't. Micro-SD would require an adaptor anyway (micro-SD to SD). So I really don't feel too terribly concerned about the fact that Sony is pushing their own flash memory format on their own platform. Like I said, flash is cheap.
Yes, a Brainfuck program looks weird, but the language is so simple that any (somewhat competent) programmer can understand it completely after 5 minutes of research.
It's kind of somewhat interesting, I guess, in that it's a fairly Turing Machine-ish language. You have the current memory location, which can be incremented or decremented, and a very small set of operations you can perform on the value stored there (increment or decrement, zero-test with conditional branch, input, output) The set of operations is simple enough to understand - but actually putting them to use would be a challenge. I can sort of vaguely see the appeal here - the language itself is like a puzzle.
At the same time - I can never quite shake the feeling that these "Esoteric" programming languages are just complete junk... Like someone decided obfuscated C wasn't sufficient for their needs, so they created a language that could give them new and exciting ways to make programs hard to write and read... I could sort of envision the process of writing something vaguely complicated in Brainfuck - building up bits of functionality out of the barest instruction set and assembling it into a program with the annoyingly limited set of flow control operators - but I can't think of why I would want to do that. If I took on a somewhat similar challenge by, say, writing PIC assembly code - I'd be starting from a better instruction set but still have a lot of work to do in order to create something useful - but the difference is, at the end, my program would be useful... It's like, have I got so much time on my hands that I need programming to be more difficult for no good reason? Couldn't I be doing something more interesting with my time than writing really simple programs in a language that makes these simple ideas almost impossible to express?
Come on, that was just a good excuse for you to swear, right?
I don't fucking know what the fucking shit you're fucking talking the fuck about. Do any of you other fuckers know what kind of fucked up shit this guy is talking a-fucking-bout? 'Cause I don't fucking know, myself.
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When one of the headhunters finds what you're looking for but doesn't tell you, and then hides in your garbage, it might be tempting to fire them - but it's important to remember that headhunters are very clever - by following the target discreetly in this fashion it is more probable that the target will grow complacent, and thus vulnerable to a trap.
Pics or it didn't happen.
Pics we've got... (Well, a video, actually...) The proper bullshit-or-not test for this case would be to see the actual application.
Looks like I'll have to get rid of the candy dish I keep in the study...
Yeah, maybe it's like those calendars that have the kittens with the exaggeratedly-large eyes...
Yeah, that'll happen right after the Big Mac that I order ends up looking just like the one in the commercial.
Hey, you know - a few key advancements in the field of edible films and dyes and this could happen... Granted, this would mean every part of the burger would need to be manufactured via this process, probably not grilled at the restaurant, and assembled with greater consistency than is done now - but there's no reason the burger components couldn't come pre-coated with a thick layer of edible film manufactured to reproduce the desired texture and flavor, and prepainted to provide the desired color and reflectivity... They could probably bill it as some kind of nutritional enhancement (same great greasy flavor without all that grease!) in order to get people to accept it...
Now, on trying to run Word, Windows would abruptly crash to a DOS prompt, where I could fix a few things.
That's been a standard feature for a while now.
Nah, Windows doesn't crash to a DOS prompt any more...
I thought it had to come through the barrel of a gun?
Keep my head way down.
I really wish people would stop calling "capitalism evil". Capitalism is nothing more than your neighbor building a chair, or bed, or whatever his specialty might be, and you saying, "That's really nice, can I buy it or give you something else for trade?" That's capitalism and it's not evil. It's the basis of human interaction between neighbors and goes-back 5000 years.
So.... where does capital enter into this little exchange?
At the beginning of a sentence or a proper noun.
I am not a troll, I am a 6'2" fit male who knows a few languages and can make his way through a crowd.
Oh... You're tall and educated. Therefore you couldn't possibly be a troll. :)
Partly agreed, but if the app is HTML/Java and can run in a web-browser like environment then you can find such an app on the web anyway and already. What is the point ?
Being able to run it without being connected to the web, of course... Even if you've got a data plan on your phone, there are situations (like poor reception, or too many people using the network) where it's not practical to rely upon it.
they are barring open source/free software -- they want money --
I think there was some SNAFU there. (This is Palm, after all... I'd feel comfortable labeling them as "fuck-up kings" at this point...) But regardless, this just applies to the application store.
while openly promoting low-end application interface (web) that can't bring the added value, this is plain stupid, sorry, but this got failure drawn all over.
Well, I tend to agree, personally. I think it's stupid for an embedded platform's applications to be written in a scripting language...
But bear in mind that this isn't strictly a web API. Javascript applications on WebOS have access to APIs specific to WebOS.
Additionally, I wouldn't call web applications a "low-end interface" these days. Improvements to CSS and greater usage of Javascript have changed that. The only things "low-end" about it are the network lag times (which don't apply to an app running locally on your phone) and, IMO, the process of coding for that platform. But from an end-user standpoint web interfaces tend to be quite good these days.
Do not confuse thin HTML/Javascript frontends for server services like /. or Google maps with application software.
There's two sides to this thing...
First - I have to say that a lot of these web applications really are quite comparable to locally-hosted desktop applications in terms of what they do.
But the choice of HTML and Javascript in that sort of environment is almost unavoidable, so it doesn't lend much support to the idea that these are good choices for writing an application that doesn't need to run on a web server...
Comparing Palm's WebOS development environment (a "1") to the Windows Mobile SDK (a "5") or the iPhone SDK (a "9") is like comparing a kids tricycle to a top-of-the line motorcycle from Honda or BMW.
Personally I don't believe the "flamebait" mod you got was necessarily justified... But could you elaborate a bit? I haven't used any of the SDKs you mentioned...
It's called WebOS, which is basically Extended JavaScript (for hardware API calls) and HTML. There are some decent tutorials on their developer website, plus O'Reilly has a decent book out for the development on it already.
Proof, IMO, that Palm, who had allowed their PalmOS platform to slowly fester and die over a period of several years, is now fully deranged. Hey everybody... here's a portable device. It has limited storage and battery resources. So how about we all write apps for it using a frikkin' scripting language?
The bright side, I've heard, is that one can write modules in C or C++ in such a way that they can then be called from the Javascript environment of the phone...
Who says webOS won't get ported a la Rockbox? And after all, Linux will run on almost anything. I can see where eventually phones will become just like desktops and laptops - pick yer OS.
At present there's too many hardware differences between platforms for this to be viable. If your OS is built around a particular screen resolution, a multi-touch screen, a hardware keyboard, motion sensor, etc. then the applications written for it won't work nicely on hardware that doesn't fit that rough description...
Yummy, yummy N900...
But so expensive... :(
(Side note: What's with these 1300mAH batteries? I think smartphone makers need to get more realistic about battery needs on these things... If that means it's bigger, then it's bigger... At least I won't be constantly running out of power...)
This is just proof that you can put any sort of crap to great music such as John Williams and make it look interesting. How many movies has he saved, anyway?
He did pretty well with "Daddy-O"...
"Why so stable?"
"How many nines do you really need?"
Huh.
Reading that review makes me want to dust-off my old Atari, Nintendo, and Sega Genesis consoles, and relive the days when gaming was FUN rather than a chore. The PSP Go sounds like a royal piece of shit, especially the part where you have to waste 2-3 hours downloading games.
Yeah, 802.11b is inexcusable for a device like this in the present day...
I use hacked firmware on my PSP, sure, because I rip my games to MemStick.... But I still pay for games and will continue to do so. I will also crack the Go if I ever get one because you can bet your ass that there won't be a mechanism to resell games you've bought, plus I would feel the moral right to transfer my current UMD based games.
Moral right? You have already lost the moral argument by supporting Sony in the first place. "Ripping your games to MemStick"? Have you heard of this "Micro SD" that the rest of the industry uses? Sony is worse than every other company out there when it comes to promoting its own "standards" when there is already a perfectly good alternative, and until that changes I'll continue to recommend to everyone I know that they avoid Sony products completely.
Oddly, I don't care.
I mean, back in, like, 2000 or whatever, when I got my TRGPro, I thought it was dandy to be able to use the same 64MB compact flash card (Retail price at the time: $150) on both the handheld and my digital camera. Even through 2002 or 2003 with the early Tungsten devices, I felt that having the same memory card format on both my Palm and my camera was a very valuable thing, and I would share cards between devices. And for the longest time I thought hardware designs where micro-SD slots or whatever weren't accessible on the machine's exterior were inherently bad.
These days, flash memory is cheap, small USB card readers are cheap... It would be nice to be able to load the memory cards used by my game machines directly into my laptop or desktop PC - but really, it's not the end of the world if I can't. Micro-SD would require an adaptor anyway (micro-SD to SD). So I really don't feel too terribly concerned about the fact that Sony is pushing their own flash memory format on their own platform. Like I said, flash is cheap.
Brainfuck, whitespace, etc? These are all jokes. You're never intended to use them at all.
As jokes, they're not especially funny. So I guess whether you regard them as jokes or as programming languages, they're equally worthless.
So pack up that "whoosh" shit and fuck off.
But seriously... if slashdot "went straight down the toilet" -- and you're still here -- that implies you're a turd.
Now now, he could also be a dead goldfish, or a gob of hair picked out of the shower drain...
Except that he hasn't fapped over every Apple thing ever. He pretty convincingly addressed all this with Leo Laporte on a recent episode of TWIT.
For some reason I misread that as "a recent episode of TMNT"...
Needless to say I was rather confused...
I liked the show... but they they still need some thinking writers. Why not use a "Keno" to close the hatch?!
'Cause he'll probably head-butt you and rip your heart out, is why!
What is so special about Brainfuck anyway?
Yes, a Brainfuck program looks weird, but the language is so simple that any (somewhat competent) programmer can understand it completely after 5 minutes of research.
It's kind of somewhat interesting, I guess, in that it's a fairly Turing Machine-ish language. You have the current memory location, which can be incremented or decremented, and a very small set of operations you can perform on the value stored there (increment or decrement, zero-test with conditional branch, input, output) The set of operations is simple enough to understand - but actually putting them to use would be a challenge. I can sort of vaguely see the appeal here - the language itself is like a puzzle.
At the same time - I can never quite shake the feeling that these "Esoteric" programming languages are just complete junk... Like someone decided obfuscated C wasn't sufficient for their needs, so they created a language that could give them new and exciting ways to make programs hard to write and read... I could sort of envision the process of writing something vaguely complicated in Brainfuck - building up bits of functionality out of the barest instruction set and assembling it into a program with the annoyingly limited set of flow control operators - but I can't think of why I would want to do that. If I took on a somewhat similar challenge by, say, writing PIC assembly code - I'd be starting from a better instruction set but still have a lot of work to do in order to create something useful - but the difference is, at the end, my program would be useful... It's like, have I got so much time on my hands that I need programming to be more difficult for no good reason? Couldn't I be doing something more interesting with my time than writing really simple programs in a language that makes these simple ideas almost impossible to express?
Come on, that was just a good excuse for you to swear, right?
I don't fucking know what the fucking shit you're fucking talking the fuck about. Do any of you other fuckers know what kind of fucked up shit this guy is talking a-fucking-bout? 'Cause I don't fucking know, myself.