You know, this may not be a patent thing at all. It may be a move to get political action. If millions of comapnies, products, or packages can be affected by this lawsuit, someone will try to enact a law licensing and bonding web designers. "After all, they are in charge of our security." The locksmithing industry was plagued by such a thing years ago. A set of fingerprints along with a 100 dollar fee gave one a "permit" to practice the trade in California. What did it do? Put the fingerprints on file with the police, (just incase a guy in the trade was dumb enough to use his own equiptment to commit a crime-which he could already make $60 an hour), and gave $100 a year to a political board to legislate more rules. Watch this thing, politicians abound......
I mean really. They have an unlimited budget. They have tempest. They can see your eyballs thru walls from space. Your voice can be heard and filtered out from a mile away. Trees can be made into organic microphones. -And its their job to be 10 steps ahead of everyone else on the planet. -They're survival depend on it. Somehow, I just don't think this will have any effect.
I never said anything about CPU time wasting. I said computational power- or capability. Again, you didnt read that. If being the first to point out that maybe something should be done differently is arrogance, then yes I am arrogant. Do I think software manufacturers are that blind? I cant believe you just asked that. If Y2K got passed everyone, do you really think they care about bloat or efficiency? oh. wait. you probably think y2k is a hoax.:)
Obvously, we are talking on 2 different levels. 1. You were so busy trying to pick apart my comments, you didn't even understand that i DIDN'T say anything about a hard drive being the way we can protect our systems. I think all of this can be straightened out by your statement about not being an architecture expert. Reverse engineer a program written for the original 8088, then a Microsoft operating system. Then you will get an education on how a chip can be looped into infinite processes completely inefficiently. And I cant help but question your abilities if you rely on your monitor on your screen to tell you how much CPU is being used by whatever process at any time. Accuracy plays no part there. You also seem to think you cant write a program like windows to work with a simpler instruction set for an 8088 cpu based on memory or whatever. It comes down to how you wrote your operating system. If you want to try to rip me for not knowing what Im talking about, at least be logical and complete in your own knowledge.
First: You can put up to a meg memory on a 8088 without a card. Second: The level of the code you write, and your ability as a code writer indicate what you can make your machine do. You are wrong about what machines today utilize on their chip capability. First- Ever try win3.1 on a pentium3? Wanna know why it runs better? The code can be excecuted better thru the CPU because of the CPUs capability. -You can even use a weak HD and it runs better. If youve ever studied CPU architecture and how to program registers, you know this. Second-this is the same way you can protect your machine against tampering. -...But as any good security expert, I will leave that a topic for another day. Third....WAY wrong with what is used today. In plain English, you are utilizing a 32 bit bus to process a 32 bit instruction that doesn't need to be 32 bit in length. it could be done in 8. Its called bloatware. Microsofts famous trademark. For proof, see above about registers. So.....next?
Good in concept, lousy in practice. Take for instance Microsoft and any major computer manufacturer like Compaq, Dell, IBM, or anyone else. On a desktop, many boxes have a "sleep mode" button. In order to reactivate the machine, you hit a key, move a mouse, ect. What happened with that whole project? 2 years to come up with enough patches by the manufacturers in order to keep everyone's machine from crashing. Why? Because Microsoft incorperated it into the operating system, and the manufacturer of the computer made it work with their proprietary code as well. The result? Conflicts galore. In reality, 4 years later, problems still occur. Yes, this is Microsoft, but Microsoft isn't the problem. It's the conflict thing.
I have been in the know about hardware and software both. -The knowledge of how everything works together for over 15 years. The intricacies and falibilities of both and what happens together. Most techs I have run across just know software. -(and very little at that). The whole thing is that if someone wants to disrupt or cause chaos to another's machine, the future may lie in the hardware knowledge. I have always maintained we are headed to a "Max Headroom" type society faster than we may believe. Hardware gets cheaper, and cheaper, while software continues to utilize less than 1% of the capability of it. For instance, what can't I do with my 8088 that a pentium 3 does today? The answer is nothing. The difference is the software written for it. Nobody has written windows to run on an 8088 for example. The result is that if the future is going to be ever quickly changing formats and chips and transfers, the knowledge to keep up is in the hardware knowledge, and how code interacts on it's lowest levels with chips. (of course a basic knowledge of radio, and electronics couldn't hurt either). I think this may be a clue. If you guys want to keep current, catch the education of electronics.:)
You know, I don't think this will be very practical. Musicians wont be very happy about being replaced with synthesisers. I am friends with a pro Jazz musican- a true legend in the industry and another guy who owns a Label in Europe. I dont think these guys would like it, and besides: who the heck wants to pack a coluseum 30,000 deep to watch the head banging action of a metal box?
Has anyone considered the implications of this? The trouble of any medium of informational exchange being entirely web-based presents the obvious potential of a page getting hacked, and therefore mis-information is spread. I find it hard to believe the security on that type of site would be very good. The problem here is that with a palm pilot and the proper accessories, one could be walking down the street and stop at an intersection. Waiting for the light to turn green, this person re-writes history, then continues happily on his way. Maybe a far out scenario, but very possible, and very likely.
Most of you guys have missed what they did. IBM has teamed up with the 5th largest internet site. An e-commerce company with 30-40 million hits a day. It ran 'em clean out of their desktops. It may be worth noting here, that the site has only been up a month. Clue: IBM knows where the money is. Now, I have my gripes with a LOT about IBM, but hey- they know how to make money with this move. Guaranteed. Wanna find out more about that e-commerce company? More of us can profit by this instead of just BIG BLUE. E-mail me. -HQML@HOTMAIL.COM (Yes, hotmail.- on purpose.:) )
Yesterday, as I put my vcr on rewind after watching "The Last Broadcast" -(shameless plug for a GREAT movie better than Blair witch project (avail. at Hollywood video)) I caught a ZDNet spokesperson talking about Y2K preparedness and how ZDNet was THE company tracking all the preparedness of everyone and how THEY had all the answers. After this yo-yo said that all big companies have fixed their problems and small companies are the only ones with anything to worry about, I shut it off. I would have to form the opinion that these guys are pretty cheesey, and I wouldn't take much of anything they say as real, or factual. In fact, if they said it- I would probably have to do like I do to all the other articles I read, and prove it.
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You know, this may not be a patent thing at all. It may be a move to get political action. If millions of comapnies, products, or packages can be affected by this lawsuit, someone will try to enact a law licensing and bonding web designers. "After all, they are in charge of our security." The locksmithing industry was plagued by such a thing years ago. A set of fingerprints along with a 100 dollar fee gave one a "permit" to practice the trade in California. What did it do? Put the fingerprints on file with the police, (just incase a guy in the trade was dumb enough to use his own equiptment to commit a crime-which he could already make $60 an hour), and gave $100 a year to a political board to legislate more rules. Watch this thing, politicians abound......
obviously you dont know how elections work. Its the electoral college that matters. Of course, there CAN be an Easter bunny if you would prefer.....
what if a slashdot reader/poster is one being watched, or doing the watching?
I mean really. They have an unlimited budget. They have tempest. They can see your eyballs thru walls from space. Your voice can be heard and filtered out from a mile away. Trees can be made into organic microphones. -And its their job to be 10 steps ahead of everyone else on the planet. -They're survival depend on it. Somehow, I just don't think this will have any effect.
I never said anything about CPU time wasting. I said computational power- or capability. Again, you didnt read that. If being the first to point out that maybe something should be done differently is arrogance, then yes I am arrogant. Do I think software manufacturers are that blind? I cant believe you just asked that. If Y2K got passed everyone, do you really think they care about bloat or efficiency? oh. wait. you probably think y2k is a hoax. :)
Obvously, we are talking on 2 different levels. 1. You were so busy trying to pick apart my comments, you didn't even understand that i DIDN'T say anything about a hard drive being the way we can protect our systems. I think all of this can be straightened out by your statement about not being an architecture expert. Reverse engineer a program written for the original 8088, then a Microsoft operating system. Then you will get an education on how a chip can be looped into infinite processes completely inefficiently. And I cant help but question your abilities if you rely on your monitor on your screen to tell you how much CPU is being used by whatever process at any time. Accuracy plays no part there. You also seem to think you cant write a program like windows to work with a simpler instruction set for an 8088 cpu based on memory or whatever. It comes down to how you wrote your operating system. If you want to try to rip me for not knowing what Im talking about, at least be logical and complete in your own knowledge.
First: You can put up to a meg memory on a 8088 without a card. Second: The level of the code you write, and your ability as a code writer indicate what you can make your machine do. You are wrong about what machines today utilize on their chip capability. First- Ever try win3.1 on a pentium3? Wanna know why it runs better? The code can be excecuted better thru the CPU because of the CPUs capability. -You can even use a weak HD and it runs better. If youve ever studied CPU architecture and how to program registers, you know this. Second-this is the same way you can protect your machine against tampering. -...But as any good security expert, I will leave that a topic for another day. Third....WAY wrong with what is used today. In plain English, you are utilizing a 32 bit bus to process a 32 bit instruction that doesn't need to be 32 bit in length. it could be done in 8. Its called bloatware. Microsofts famous trademark. For proof, see above about registers. So.....next?
Good in concept, lousy in practice. Take for instance Microsoft and any major computer manufacturer like Compaq, Dell, IBM, or anyone else. On a desktop, many boxes have a "sleep mode" button. In order to reactivate the machine, you hit a key, move a mouse, ect. What happened with that whole project? 2 years to come up with enough patches by the manufacturers in order to keep everyone's machine from crashing. Why? Because Microsoft incorperated it into the operating system, and the manufacturer of the computer made it work with their proprietary code as well. The result? Conflicts galore. In reality, 4 years later, problems still occur. Yes, this is Microsoft, but Microsoft isn't the problem. It's the conflict thing.
:) and, if you recall, tempest technology is more than 10 years old. now, we BOTH know what is being done now....
I have been in the know about hardware and software both. -The knowledge of how everything works together for over 15 years. The intricacies and falibilities of both and what happens together. Most techs I have run across just know software. -(and very little at that). The whole thing is that if someone wants to disrupt or cause chaos to another's machine, the future may lie in the hardware knowledge. I have always maintained we are headed to a "Max Headroom" type society faster than we may believe. Hardware gets cheaper, and cheaper, while software continues to utilize less than 1% of the capability of it. For instance, what can't I do with my 8088 that a pentium 3 does today? The answer is nothing. The difference is the software written for it. Nobody has written windows to run on an 8088 for example. The result is that if the future is going to be ever quickly changing formats and chips and transfers, the knowledge to keep up is in the hardware knowledge, and how code interacts on it's lowest levels with chips. (of course a basic knowledge of radio, and electronics couldn't hurt either). I think this may be a clue. If you guys want to keep current, catch the education of electronics. :)
You know, I don't think this will be very practical. Musicians wont be very happy about being replaced with synthesisers. I am friends with a pro Jazz musican- a true legend in the industry and another guy who owns a Label in Europe. I dont think these guys would like it, and besides: who the heck wants to pack a coluseum 30,000 deep to watch the head banging action of a metal box?
Has anyone considered the implications of this? The trouble of any medium of informational exchange being entirely web-based presents the obvious potential of a page getting hacked, and therefore mis-information is spread. I find it hard to believe the security on that type of site would be very good. The problem here is that with a palm pilot and the proper accessories, one could be walking down the street and stop at an intersection. Waiting for the light to turn green, this person re-writes history, then continues happily on his way. Maybe a far out scenario, but very possible, and very likely.
Most of you guys have missed what they did. IBM has teamed up with the 5th largest internet site. An e-commerce company with 30-40 million hits a day. It ran 'em clean out of their desktops. It may be worth noting here, that the site has only been up a month. Clue: IBM knows where the money is. Now, I have my gripes with a LOT about IBM, but hey- they know how to make money with this move. Guaranteed. Wanna find out more about that e-commerce company? More of us can profit by this instead of just BIG BLUE. E-mail me. -HQML@HOTMAIL.COM (Yes, hotmail.- on purpose. :) )
Yesterday, as I put my vcr on rewind after watching "The Last Broadcast" -(shameless plug for a GREAT movie better than Blair witch project (avail. at Hollywood video)) I caught a ZDNet spokesperson talking about Y2K preparedness and how ZDNet was THE company tracking all the preparedness of everyone and how THEY had all the answers. After this yo-yo said that all big companies have fixed their problems and small companies are the only ones with anything to worry about, I shut it off. I would have to form the opinion that these guys are pretty cheesey, and I wouldn't take much of anything they say as real, or factual. In fact, if they said it- I would probably have to do like I do to all the other articles I read, and prove it.