Sorry, but what reason is there for a web cache or proxy to load the entire page and then decide on the ground of a md5 hash whether to show the cached or updated version?
In his original license he said that if someone modified his code and it was compatible with the original, it HAD to be called ssh. The others are still compatible with his code and based on it..so they are just doing what he originally asked.
You're... wrong.
He sais:
Any derived versions of this
software must be clearly marked as such, and if the derived work is
incompatible with the protocol description in the RFC file, it must be
called by a name other than "ssh" or "Secure Shell".
Since the various SSH's out there are compatible with the protocol description, they can be called SSH but don't have to.
In any way, my opinion on that matter is, that it's not really him, who wants the name change, but his lawyers, execs, shareholders, and so on. Poor guy.
One way to look at using crypto is that you don't send postcards discussing private matters, you put a letter in an envelope so the postman can't read it.
I've heard this statement over and over, and while I advocate encryption even in e-mail, my common sense tells me that this analogy is extremely flawed. I don't fear that my postman will read this card for two reasons
he doesn't have the time
even if he does read the private stuff: I don't know him and he doesn't know me. So I don't care.
Putting the stuff in a letter so the government won't read it, makes no sense either, for they have the right tools. So the only reason to write a letter is, so the people living with the person won't read it. Of course, they can always rip the letter open and invent some excuse. Shouldn't happen to often though.
However, a letter is always more personal and you can simply write more than on a postcard.:)
However it's not clear if this is a bad thing, if shows continue to be poor people will not watch them.
It's been five years since I've been in the states, but I bet you have your fair share of complete TV-junk like we have here in Germany. "Explosiv", "Big Brother", "Talk talk talk" to name a few. Shows like "When animals attack". Who in their right mind watches this crap? Why is this complete and utter crap even being produced?
Looks like the normal TV consumer will thankfully accept any kind of bullshit that is stuffed in his head. Even more, he'll prefer it over quality programming, which can be seen in the way that the public television in Germany is readjusting their programming to suit the new market needs. This is why a loathe TV. A pile of junk--without which the civilization would be definitaly better off.
I guess that the principle of competition bring better quality products can't be applied to TV at all.
Officially, the school district condemns censorship. As the district decrees, students' constitutional freedoms include the right to free expression and free inquiry.
I read this sentence as following: "Yeah, we support the constitutional freedoms including the right of free speech and free inquiry, but only because we have to do so. Because it's in the Constititution, not because we think it is right."
And when dealing with security, the merest possibility that something can happen, must be treated as though it will happen.
I don't want to sound picky, but by that logic, there's no point in using PGP (or SSH for that matter) at all. The only crypto method that has been proven mathematically to be absolutely secure is encryption with a one-time random key, that has the same length as the message text. Public key encryption is based on the fact that it is unfeasable in human time to decrypt the message, not that it is impossible.
So, there is the merest possibility that decryption can happen, still everybody is assuming that it won't happen.
BTW, I agree on your "No source == 10 backdoors in every line of code" interpretation. Just another reason, not to use products of NAI.
So, I guess it is finally frozen. Hopefully in less than a year Debian 2.3/3.0 will be out.
Anyway, who cares? I've been running woody for month now and it hasn't failed on me once. As a matter of fact, the last 'apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade'-cylce I did was yesterday.
The 31-year-old Torvalds [...] is the inventor and guardian of an operating system kernel [...] whose rapid rise is unnerving executives at Microsoft Corp.
Why does the Linux kernel and the Linux community always gets defined as "unnerving executives at Microsoft Corp?" As if that's the only thing we care about.
Yet some solution providers, vendors, and industry observers are beginning to question how long one man can steer the evolution of Linux, and whether Torvalds' sole oversight of the kernel, now at version 2.4, is slowing its corporate adoption.
Well, it certainly hasn't stopped corporate adoptions so far. Oh yeah, and I like the terms "solution providers", "vendors", and "industry observers"...
While he's not driven by profit motive, the engineer has significant power over the kernel: Linux is a registered trademark of Linus Torvalds himself.
I don't see the point. Having power over something implies a profit motive? I don't get it.
Windows, in contrast, is the trademark of Microsoft.
Which, of course, changes everything.
They note Torvalds lacks formal accountability for Linux and, as a full-time engineer at chip maker Transmeta Corp. (stock: TMTA), has considerable professional obligations outside his open-source activities.
Ah, yes, the old mare of not having someone who I can sue if stuff goes wrong. Boring.
What's more, industry titans such as IBM Corp. (stock: IBM); Compaq Computer Corp. (stock: CPQ); Intel Corp. (stock: INTC); Hewlett-Packard Corp. (stock: HWP); and Oracle Corp. (stock: ORCL) are pouring billions of dollars into developing Linux products and want to exert more influence on the direction of the kernel, based on customer feedback.
I like those stock quotes. Seriously, if they want to exert more influence, they can always hire some kernel hacker or write the code themselves. If it's good, it get's accepted.
"We need a full-time leader and a nonprofit organization that can be funded by IBM, Compaq, and Dell and the [Linux] distributors," said Hal Davison, owner and president of Davison Consulting, Sarasota, Fla
Who is we?
Some Linux solution providers view the constantly evolving process of the posting of Linux libraries, patches, and updates to the Internet as inefficient and cumbersome, Davison said.
Well, it's efficient enough to have patches for newly found holes and bugs faster than most other operating systems. Especially these commercial ones (see above). Sounds good to me.
"VARs are reluctant because they don't see a clear channel. They don't see a Microsoft or strong corporate company saying, 'We're going to be here forever,'" he said.
Well, if they are waiting for Microsoft to embrace Linux, they should not be holding their breath.
Torvalds opposes the notion of corporate interests controlling the destiny of the Linux kernel.
Says who? Where are the snappy quotes?
IBM's recent pledge to spend $1 billion to advance Linux commercially in 2001 comes with a no-strings-attached promise today, but observers say that won't last if Linux doesn't pick up steam in the form of revenue and profits.
Is IBM (stock: IBM) not a strong company, or are $1 billion in one year not enough to be classified as "We're going to be here forever?" Take your pick.
Also, I don't think that anybody is ever going to make money out of the Linux kernel, but on the products and services based on that kernel. And the last years show, that this is a huge market.
Oh, yeah, and one final piece...
I don't believe open source works well for commercial companies because they can't control schedules," said Michael Cusumano, a professor at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology's Sloan School of Management who sits on the board of solution provider NetNumina Solutions. "Software companies try to have regular development cycles. That's how you build a rhythm for a company.
If only commercial companies would try harder and actually develop a rhythm. Granted, 2.4 was late almost a year (It's not that I mind, though.), but take a look for example at KDE 2.0. Only one week late of schedule, which was set in stone months in advance. Talk about being on time. I don't see this anywhere in the commercial world.
Okay, enough of a rant. This was way too easy to debunk.
I'm from Germany, but I lived for one year in the US when I was sixteen years old. (Which is, by incident, only four years ago.)
What amazed me the most was how strongly you restrict the freedom of your children. E.g. curfew in major cities, drinking age being 21, whole school policies like lav passes. You get my drift. Being from Germany these restrictions where extremely hard to put up with.
OTOH, some people might find it troubling (sp?) how some forms of speech are limited here in Germany, e.g. hate speech, denial of the holocaust, personal insults (= libel?), etc. I don't really have a problem with these restrictions, but I expect very libetarian people to cry out loud at these restrictions.
So it all depends, which freedoms you value most. You will definatelly not be able to enjoy all freedoms one can imagine to the fullest, because, after all, you have to live in some society. And given that no two people are alike, you will run into problems at one point which can only be solved by restricting your freedoms in some way.
Okay, maybe I was lying about that being a saying, but if you do everything for the money, one day you'll wake up and realize that your life
sucks. The fact that you'll realize this while commuting from a $3 million dollar house to a well-compensated position, in a modified Audi S4
won't help. It'll still suck.
Exactly!
I always fail to realize, why people keep whining about their time in school. High school life teaches you so much more than the stuff in class. That's the place you spend most of your time in, where your values are shaped, and where you have some of the most important experiences in your youth and argueably your life. High school is not so much about getting a good education in order to get big bucks later on, but about mastering your life.
Imagine, dropping out of high school at 14/15, always hanging around with the same old people and doing sysadmin all day long, being held accountable for every poop on the network, cause you earn a six figures salary. I'd rather not.
BTW, I got my high school diploma (German Abitur) two years ago and now I'm going to college, doing part time sysadmin. I don't get a six figures salary though. Whatever.
... or does the text preview function in konqueror leave you with mixed feelings? Apart from the fact that I can't see the usefullness, I also don't like having my.fetchmailrc file or similar displayed openly.
And to get back to it's usefullness factor: The first half dozen #include-statements in a C source file will tell me exactly what this file is all about. Riiiiiight.
Re:Apt IS great, now if we could USE it.
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Ok I must be wierd. I actually like dselect.
So do I. Don't know what's so bad about it. And here's what I do with that huge package list, if I install a fresh Debian system (still slink).
Start dselect
Mark everything as purged
Search for the tools I know I will need (e.g. bash, vim, perl, gcc, xserver-common, netscape, gimp,...)
dselect will show me dependent package screen and I just hit Enter
Install the distro. If anything is missing (usually not much), go back to dselect
This works especially well, if you do not have broadband internet connectivity and are charged by the minute. dselect is your friend for CD based installation.
This comes a bit late in that thread, but anyway...
Can anybody explain to me, why the US relies on a machine count in the first way? I vulonteered to count votes in the last election of our Chancelor (Germany, 1998), when I was 18 years old. It was not that hard.
Slashdot Mirror
Look's like the term four-letter-word is getting a whole new meaning.
Sorry, but what reason is there for a web cache or proxy to load the entire page and then decide on the ground of a md5 hash whether to show the cached or updated version?
That's what last-modified headers are for.
I bet my next month's paycheck, that everybody in Alaska appreciated the extra dose of humor. :)
Riiiggghhhhht.
You know, with this information in mind, the story might actually be funny. See, the SMPng in the following statement
could be a subtle reference to the ever-so-late Mozilla project.
But then again, this is Slashdot.
Yeah, one good post, just like last year, and the year before IIRC. Yawn.
Although I liked the quote: "Are we done yet? I have things to code." But that's just me.
You're ... wrong.
He sais:
Since the various SSH's out there are compatible with the protocol description, they can be called SSH but don't have to.
In any way, my opinion on that matter is, that it's not really him, who wants the name change, but his lawyers, execs, shareholders, and so on. Poor guy.
I've heard this statement over and over, and while I advocate encryption even in e-mail, my common sense tells me that this analogy is extremely flawed. I don't fear that my postman will read this card for two reasons
Putting the stuff in a letter so the government won't read it, makes no sense either, for they have the right tools. So the only reason to write a letter is, so the people living with the person won't read it. Of course, they can always rip the letter open and invent some excuse. Shouldn't happen to often though.
However, a letter is always more personal and you can simply write more than on a postcard. :)
I am wondering, where this is coming from ...
It's been five years since I've been in the states, but I bet you have your fair share of complete TV-junk like we have here in Germany. "Explosiv", "Big Brother", "Talk talk talk" to name a few. Shows like "When animals attack". Who in their right mind watches this crap? Why is this complete and utter crap even being produced?
Looks like the normal TV consumer will thankfully accept any kind of bullshit that is stuffed in his head. Even more, he'll prefer it over quality programming, which can be seen in the way that the public television in Germany is readjusting their programming to suit the new market needs. This is why a loathe TV. A pile of junk--without which the civilization would be definitaly better off.
I guess that the principle of competition bring better quality products can't be applied to TV at all.
Kinda sad that is.
Nope. IIRC, it's by Thomas Jefferson. JFK quoted him in his inauguration (sp?) speech.
I read this sentence as following: "Yeah, we support the constitutional freedoms including the right of free speech and free inquiry, but only because we have to do so. Because it's in the Constititution, not because we think it is right."
Hypocrits everywhere.
So, there is the merest possibility that decryption can happen, still everybody is assuming that it won't happen.
BTW, I agree on your "No source == 10 backdoors in every line of code" interpretation. Just another reason, not to use products of NAI.
Anyway, who cares? I've been running woody for month now and it hasn't failed on me once. As a matter of fact, the last 'apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade'-cylce I did was yesterday.
Naa, although I don't think the US has an energy problem, I still second that post.
This gadget looks cool upon first glance, but looses my respect when looking closer:
All in all, I prefer my bike and my inline skates any time over that gadget.
(Damn, it's time for some blading again, why the hell is it so cold outside?!)
To and from school? Yeah, these were tough times!
Wow, this article beats them all.
Right in the 2nd paragraph:
Why does the Linux kernel and the Linux community always gets defined as "unnerving executives at Microsoft Corp?" As if that's the only thing we care about.
Well, it certainly hasn't stopped corporate adoptions so far. Oh yeah, and I like the terms "solution providers", "vendors", and "industry observers" ...
I don't see the point. Having power over something implies a profit motive? I don't get it.
Which, of course, changes everything.
Ah, yes, the old mare of not having someone who I can sue if stuff goes wrong. Boring.
I like those stock quotes. Seriously, if they want to exert more influence, they can always hire some kernel hacker or write the code themselves. If it's good, it get's accepted.
Who is we?
Well, it's efficient enough to have patches for newly found holes and bugs faster than most other operating systems. Especially these commercial ones (see above). Sounds good to me.
Well, if they are waiting for Microsoft to embrace Linux, they should not be holding their breath.
Says who? Where are the snappy quotes?
Is IBM (stock: IBM) not a strong company, or are $1 billion in one year not enough to be classified as "We're going to be here forever?" Take your pick.
Also, I don't think that anybody is ever going to make money out of the Linux kernel, but on the products and services based on that kernel. And the last years show, that this is a huge market.
Oh, yeah, and one final piece ...
If only commercial companies would try harder and actually develop a rhythm. Granted, 2.4 was late almost a year (It's not that I mind, though.), but take a look for example at KDE 2.0. Only one week late of schedule, which was set in stone months in advance. Talk about being on time. I don't see this anywhere in the commercial world.
Okay, enough of a rant. This was way too easy to debunk.
Am I the only one who finds it funny, that the element is called Americium?
Which is, of course, just another one of these funny coincidents. ;)
he-sk, non-American
It all depends where you put your emphasis on.
I'm from Germany, but I lived for one year in the US when I was sixteen years old. (Which is, by incident, only four years ago.)
What amazed me the most was how strongly you restrict the freedom of your children. E.g. curfew in major cities, drinking age being 21, whole school policies like lav passes. You get my drift. Being from Germany these restrictions where extremely hard to put up with.
OTOH, some people might find it troubling (sp?) how some forms of speech are limited here in Germany, e.g. hate speech, denial of the holocaust, personal insults (= libel?), etc. I don't really have a problem with these restrictions, but I expect very libetarian people to cry out loud at these restrictions.
So it all depends, which freedoms you value most. You will definatelly not be able to enjoy all freedoms one can imagine to the fullest, because, after all, you have to live in some society. And given that no two people are alike, you will run into problems at one point which can only be solved by restricting your freedoms in some way.
Huh?! Too much champagne last night?
Substitute lifeboats for life jackets and the analogy holds valid.
Why so angry?
I always fail to realize, why people keep whining about their time in school. High school life teaches you so much more than the stuff in class. That's the place you spend most of your time in, where your values are shaped, and where you have some of the most important experiences in your youth and argueably your life. High school is not so much about getting a good education in order to get big bucks later on, but about mastering your life.
Imagine, dropping out of high school at 14/15, always hanging around with the same old people and doing sysadmin all day long, being held accountable for every poop on the network, cause you earn a six figures salary. I'd rather not.
BTW, I got my high school diploma (German Abitur) two years ago and now I'm going to college, doing part time sysadmin. I don't get a six figures salary though. Whatever.
Are you sure, that this helps you not being logged? I mean, the http://slashdot.org/ will be requested anyway and will be logged.
Bullshit! According to your logic, I would censor myself, if I skip articles by Wolfgang Siebeck in my local newspaper. Yeah, right!
And to get back to it's usefullness factor: The first half dozen #include-statements in a C source file will tell me exactly what this file is all about. Riiiiiight.
So do I. Don't know what's so bad about it. And here's what I do with that huge package list, if I install a fresh Debian system (still slink).
- Start dselect
- Mark everything as purged
- Search for the tools I know I will need (e.g. bash, vim, perl, gcc, xserver-common, netscape, gimp,
...)
- dselect will show me dependent package screen and I just hit Enter
- Install the distro. If anything is missing (usually not much), go back to dselect
This works especially well, if you do not have broadband internet connectivity and are charged by the minute. dselect is your friend for CD based installation.This comes a bit late in that thread, but anyway ...
Can anybody explain to me, why the US relies on a machine count in the first way? I vulonteered to count votes in the last election of our Chancelor (Germany, 1998), when I was 18 years old. It was not that hard.