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Slashdot Moving To FreeBSD

Newsforge, Slashdot, Freshmeat, and all Mediabuilder sites are moving to FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT for its increased SMP capabilities, this move should be completed by Beltaine (May 1st), leaving enough preparation time before the festival to sacrifice a goat to the SCSI gods.

CmdrTaco seems to be excited about the move, knowing there are several BSD experts on the network staff now.

"Linux's disorganization, and the fact it seems like a a bunch of unconnected developers tried to write an OS with no prior planning or agreements has been hard for us at Slashdot who have to work with the Operating System. To the users, there will be no difference, the upgrade will be seamless. Trish and Jim will be happy and they will stop their complaining about Linux," he said.

John Baldwin, a kernel hacker working on SMPng at BSDI's Open Source Division, said that "it should be able to handle Slashdot just fine, Are we done yet? I have things to code."

This also reflects a shift in focus for OSDN, as we are starting to move away from the politically charged Linux in favor of more reasonable, stable OSes.

You're sure to hear more about this transition in the coming weeks, along with some other important announcements.

228 comments

  1. Funnier Yet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Linux's disorganization, and the fact it seems like a a bunch of unconnected developers tried to write an OS with no prior planning or agreements has been hard for us at Slashdot who have to work with the Operating System.

    What's funnier yet is this statement is ever so true.

  2. Tasty Natalie portman. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I like to bury my cock in natalie portmans dripping snatch.

  3. Re:Tomorrow's news: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    In related news, kernel.org, the on-line headquarters of the Linux Kernel was defaced. The normal notes about progress of the Linux kernel were replaced with the cryptic message:

    GOOD EVENING GENTLEMEN
    ALL YOUR SLASHDOT ARE BELONG TO US

    The identity of the hackers responsible is yet unkown.

  4. Re:Odor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1
    Who's this Natalie Portman?

    A young, attractive actress seen in Mars Attacks, Anywhere but Here, The Phantom Menace, and some other stuff. Look her up in the IMDB.

    Some relation of The Prisoner actor Eric Portman?

    Probably not. Portman isn't her real last name.

    What exactly are 'grits'?

    A barely edible breakfast food made from little pellets of corn and found mostly in the southern U.S. Standard diner fare. Look them up at dict.org.

    I suspect you're not talking about the stuff you put on the roads in cold weather?

    No, though I'd argue (as a U.S. southerner, even) that our grits are barely more edible than the grits you suggest.

    What's all this "are belong to us"?

    "All your base are belong to us" is from a bad translation of some old video game. "Somebody set up us the bomb," "What you say!!" and "Take off every 'ZiG'" are from the same place. See screenshots of the game, as well as some varyingly amusing parodies here.

  5. Re:enough with the april fools humor! by Brian+Feldman · · Score: 1
    Huh? Did you not see RFC 3092, Etymology of "Foo"? It was posted a few days earlier, but it's still dated properly =)

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  6. The biggest April Fools joke of them all... by gavinhall · · Score: 1

    Posted by serpens:

    Is all of the poor stupid people who wasted their moderator points to moderate posts today.
    Of course it could be no worse than what I'm doing right now however.

    serpens`
    When I was a kid, April Fools Day ended at noon.

  7. Heh by Nethead · · Score: 1

    I read it and thought; "about fsckin' time, I knew this all along."
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  8. Re:Humorous aspect by softweyr · · Score: 1
    Some fool named CAILAS penned:
    things seem to be getting tighter and tighter, as the 'bad distributions' get weeded out
    and
    kernel 2.4 was (somewhat) recently released, bringing it quite near to par with the BSD kernel

    And they said there wasn't anything funny in this feature. See, nerds can be funny when they don't try.

  9. Great! by Bake · · Score: 1

    Why don't you then take the opportunity and move your DB servers to something other than the hunk of schite called MySQL, like postgresql or even (omigod!) a commercial server like Oracle or DB/2?

  10. Re:64 way SGI Origin2000 by Paul+Jakma · · Score: 1

    and just to correct myself before anyone else does:

    SGI booted linux on a 64 /cpu/ Origin2000.

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  11. Re:64 way SGI Origin2000 by Paul+Jakma · · Score: 1

    ehmmm.... SMP and NUMA are orthogonal.

    SMP describes processing architecture, NUMA describes memory architecture. (both in the abstract sense).

    As for memory locality, linux has supported this for quite a while. SGI did the work precisely for this reason.

    --paulj

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  12. 64 way SGI Origin2000 by Paul+Jakma · · Score: 2

    since then SGI have booted linux on a 64 node Origin2000.

    --paulj

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    1. Re:64 way SGI Origin2000 by p3d0 · · Score: 1

      Origins are not SMP, they're NUMA. I find it hard to believe they can get decent performance/scalability on a NUMA machine without an OS designed for memory locality.

      See the k42 project.
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  13. Re:Odor by Anthony · · Score: 1

    "A) Slashdot isn't coded for performance, never has been it seems like.
    It's an ad-hoc Perl/CGI implementation. This screams "bad performance"
    no matter what OS you put it on. Logically if they wanted a faster
    response time they'd code in mod_perl, php, or SOMETHING other than
    this archaic architecture."
    Umm... was that supposed to be an AFJ as well?
    HTTP/1.0 200 OK
    Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 06:45:51 GMT
    Server: Apache/1.3.12 (Unix) mod_perl/1.24

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  14. Re:editorial: by Howie · · Score: 1

    Sprinkling real news with the occasional farce might even make the real news more interesting

    This is already a Slashdot Feature - go into the User Preferences page, then Customize Homepage, and make sure you have the "CmdrTaco" tickbox cleared. I found that ticking this box improved the coherency of Slashdot a great deal, at least as far as the stories were concerned.

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  15. Re:Have you all forgotten already? by Howie · · Score: 1

    Why the hell would I want a JVM for it? I like not having to have 1Gb RAM. Besides, since when did Application == Java?

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  16. Re:Odor by cblack · · Score: 1

    Natalie Portman: an actress many slashdot trolls seem to be obsessed about. Her most well known role is as Queen Amidala in the latest Star Wars movie.

    grits: ground up corn as far as I can tell/know. Most popular in southeastern US. A popular side dish like mashed potatoes.
    All your base are belong to us: net humor/fad. Based on a poor english translation of a japanese video game called "Zerowing". It is mentioned on the lycos 50.
    It us understandable to be surly sometimes.

  17. Re:ahhh.. a perfect end to a perfect day by sinnergy · · Score: 2

    No, if they were going to move to a real OS, they'd be moving to OpenBSD. Alas, though, SMB in Open is, well, not there ;)

    Seriously, though, I'd trust BSD code a hell of a lot more than Linux. Rumor has it that RedHat won't even compile from source anymore. They have to rebuild each rpm individually and what-not.

    BSD rules.

  18. Re:Have you all forgotten already? by dieman · · Score: 2

    Couldn't imagine why people dont use *BSD for application servers more. Oh yeah, the lack of actual vendor support. You cant even get a half-decent JVM for the thing.

    Generaly, I've only had to use BSD in some situations where i needed a pretty robust networking setup with a small base supporting system of programs. I don't mind it being used because of its time tested firewalling (compared to netfilter, which really does kick a bit of ass, but is brand-spanking-new but who cares otherwise?

    Also, nothing stops a few hundred megabit smurfs. You can protect the load on your heavenly precious applications servers, but the poor, poor upstream and firewall taht have to deal with it. Too bad theres no good traceback yet on ICMP to deal with this. Yes, traceback on ICMP. Be afraid, you too might lose your privacy to ping. :)

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  19. Re:Packet Filtering by joeboo · · Score: 2

    We actually had a customer once who had their 10baseT fiber media convertor plugged into a lamp timer. At 5pm, internet access was cut off and the office had to go home. At 7am, internet access was back on and people could come to work.

    hilarious.

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  20. Re:looking forward to by burgess · · Score: 1
    Slashdot Moving To FreeBSD

    Slashdot.org | Posted by AilleCat on Mon 02 Apr 04:00PM

    I always thought if you pulled an April Fool after midday, you were the fool. But this fella is still amping with the funnies at 4am the next day! Or maybe it's really true (and I don't see a punchline in there, do you?)

  21. Re:wait a second... by Mr+Z · · Score: 1

    Hate to break it to you, bub, but Michigan is very much in the Eastern time zone. You have to get on the other side of Lake Michigan to be in the Central time zone.


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  22. Re:wait a second... by pen · · Score: 1
    Actually, Slashdot is on the time zone you set in your prefs.

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  23. Re:Because the would've been obvious by JanneM · · Score: 1

    You mean you don't!? Then how do you keep your chain safe from the bitloss demons? I honestly think that the mandated sacrifice of a black goat over a SCSI interface at least once a year should have been written into the specification...

    /Janne

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  24. looking forward to by DarkClown · · Score: 1

    april 2nd.

    1. Re:looking forward to by thegrommit · · Score: 1

      heh - wonder how many of these stories will make it into other "news" sites.

  25. Re:wait a second... by DarkClown · · Score: 1

    this was posted on April 2, (the Slashot clock wasn't set for daylight savings) but it can't be true.
    maybe if they're cruising their slashdot yacht in the bermuda triangle.

  26. Re:Finally?!?! NOT by cabbey · · Score: 1

    LOL... this is the BEST bit of this whole sorry april fools crap.

    Proud of my 8xxx uid, and not bothering to hide it, although I'm not so sure they're really sequential.

  27. Re:wait a second... by Cid+Highwind · · Score: 1

    Yea, but before Daylight-savings-time Slashdot was on eastern time. Are you telling me it as a sudden unannouced descion for slashdot to move to Central time?

    The slashdot crew lives in Michigan, which is in central time. The physical servers are in California, which is in Pacific time. If you see times in Easter time, it's because you set them that way in your preferences.

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  28. Re:Odor by orabidoo · · Score: 2

    1) /. is coded in mod_perl, with precompilation of scripts and all, so it's not all that inefficient.
    2) Apache/mod_perl code is very portable between Unix systems; unless you go out of your way to use odd non-portable things like syscall(), the odds are that your Linux code will run on FreeBSD without a single change
    3) the source code of /. is opensource (see slashcode.com, and has quite a following. I'm sure it's been tested on many OSs beyond Linux and FreeBSD.

  29. Re:FreeBSD? shyyaahhhtuuuupppp! by NatePuri · · Score: 2

    This not funny. FreeBSD makes good business sense. *I FLAME RED HAT AND CURSE COMMERCIAL LINUX OFFERINGS*

  30. Is this another April 1st Joke ? by rkt · · Score: 1

    I can smell a big practical joke here.... it would have sounded much better if it was moving to Microsoft IIS instead...


  31. Re:Odor by AIXadmin · · Score: 1

    For a time a couple of years ago, when CmdrTaco was still doing this for fun, and not profit. I beleive he did move to FreeBSD. Just because, at the time for tasks like web serving it is was such a better OS. Yes Linux has caught up in a lot of ways. You could argue that in some ways it has even surpassed its BSD cousins. Red Hat's ftp site was using FreeBSD for a while too.
    Cheers,
    Tomas
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  32. Re:unsuspectedly ... by nebby · · Score: 1

    ^^ Funniest April Fools gag all day

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  33. Re:International readership = problem? by Foddrick · · Score: 1

    Why not take advantage of timezones next year ?
    Start the jokes when the first timezone goes onto April 1 and keep going until the last timezone is done with it.
    There ! Nearly forty-eight hours of side-splitting hilarity.

  34. April Fool's sucks this year by Sharkyfour · · Score: 1

    C'mon, guys. You guys have always been really good with the April Fool's gags, but this year's is just lame. It's almost like you forgot about it and pulled it out of your ass at the last minute. Oh well. Maybe next year.
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  35. Re:enough with the april fools humor! by griffjon · · Score: 1

    you obviously didn't read the entire RFC, they have to be carrier pigeons, you can't just grab some birds outa the park and hope to set up a wireless avian carrier network!!

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  36. enough with the april fools humor! by griffjon · · Score: 2

    one is good. two is OK. A day of mediocre april fool's jokes is NOT OK.

    I, for one, was really depressed by the lackluster April 1 RFC this year. I much prefer IP over Avian Carriers.

    *sigh*

    In the new millennium, there will be no good humor...

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    1. Re:enough with the april fools humor! by Cirvam · · Score: 1

      Wait you mean that wasn't serious? Damn here I am training my pigions to carry the ip datagrams...

  37. April fools? NOT! by johnnnyboy · · Score: 1

    I knew right away it was an april fools joke by just reading cmdrTaco quote.

    I'm sitting here typing this comment and I really don't think this makes a good april fools joke.

    Actually, moving to FreeBSD wouldn't be a bad idea. While FreeBSD continues to improve SMP support this can actually become a reality.

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  38. Re:unsuspectedly ... by seebs · · Score: 2

    COM and DCOM? Unix has had pluggable components that worked well with each other for more than twenty years.

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  39. Re:Finally?!?! NOT by CokeBear · · Score: 2

    You get 3 days to moderate. If you don't see anything you like today, wait until tomorrow.

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  40. Still political by LionMan · · Score: 1

    Okay, this is a good move because of technical issues, but how many people are going to switch from linux to *BSD "just because slashdot uses it"? It's just as political, in this respect. I have not switched to BSD yet, though I have wanted to, because of my inexperience with it. This is the major hurdle for most computer related problems, I suppose, so I don't see why it has stopped me. Maybe I'm just too political.
    (but *BSD is so more 31337! ;)

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  41. haha... another lame april fools joke... by billybob · · Score: 1

    I hate this tradition. I really do. As if it wasnt bad enough when I was growing up, its even worse on internet. EVERY news site just cannot resist making some lame-ass story that sounds ridiculous and is supposed to be funny. Unfortunately these people do not realize that they are not comedians, they are nerds who run a website. Theyre not funny. Christ.

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    1. Re:haha... another lame april fools joke... by kajl_astaroth · · Score: 1

      For me, it is the most funny april fools day ever. I have never laughed so hard at so many people bitching.

  42. Re:International readership = problem? by WasterDave · · Score: 2

    Wellington, New Zealand. It's been April 2nd here for twenty fucking hours. Enough. Choose one, make it good, don't do this next year - it blows.

    Dave

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  43. editorial: by ywwg · · Score: 5

    I'd just like to say that this has been the most stupid, pointless, unfunny april fool's day in the history of mankind, or perhaps just slashdot. If you're going to do a joke, at least either invest an oddly large amount of time in the project (bonsai kitten) or make it very funny. There is a reason sites like nytimes and cnn.com don't do these stupid things, and that is because they are reputable news sites whose job it is to inform their readership. Slashdot, while not terribly reputable ("post first, fact-check later!"), still claims to be a news site. I think a certain level of maturity is called for at some point.

    And if you're going to make jokes, make them funny, at least!

    1. Re:editorial: by AntiFreeze · · Score: 2

      And plus, if you have a single, well-done april fools story in with a bunch of real news, you throw people off appropriately.

      If April Fools day were simply 24 hours of pranks (which is what it seems like on /. today) then it becomes very obvious and the posts get very trite very quickly. Newsworthy stuff did happen today. So we [the slashdot population] would read the articles with a grain of salt, but then again, everything should not be read like it was the word of god in the first place. Sprinkling real news with the occasional farce might even make the real news more interesting, and the fake news that much funnier. Doing this on a daily basis would be bad. But on April Fool's day, it has vast potential.

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    2. Re:editorial: by derch · · Score: 1

      I know its an old story, but I think it should go down on the record that other news organizations DO post April Fool's stories and columns. In fact here's an NPR story from Sunday:

      http://www.npr.org/programs/watc/features/2001/010 401.lunar.html

  44. It would have actually been funny had they said... by bteeter · · Score: 1

    that they were switching to Windows 2000 instead of FreeBSD.

    Brian
    http://www.assortedinternet.com

  45. Re:International readership = problem? by GregWebb · · Score: 1

    No, 24.

    You're only allowed to fool until midday. Some of these weren't posted by midday in ANY timezone.

    Really. Even if they're going to crack bad jokes they could at least try to get the rules right...

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    Aaaarrrggh! Run! The canary has mutated!

  46. IP over Avian Carriers by oyvindmo · · Score: 1

    Actually, RFC 1149 is being implemented:
    http://www.blug.linux.no/rfc1149/

  47. Re:unsuspectedly ... by mad_ian · · Score: 1

    except Java DOES run fast on OS X... -Marchie

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  48. eww. why smp? by funnyguy · · Score: 1

    hmm. dual or quad processors = memory bandwidth/n . go ahead sacrifice memory bandwidth, or just get 2-4 seperate uniprocessor machines and get better performance at about the same cost with a cluster... hrmph.... anyone else notice /. getting ahead of themselves here?

  49. Does this mean other things might change? by Gr00ve · · Score: 1

    Like a certain editor will stop modding comments that question their integrity out of eye shot and out of the archives?

  50. Re:Tomorrow's news: by bgarcia · · Score: 2
    Bill Gates was quoted as saying "I'm too old for this [sexual activity]."
    The word is "shit", and if you believe that this is a sexual activity, then that explains why you can't get a date.
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  51. Re:Real life examples? by s390 · · Score: 2

    .300 Winchester Magnum reaches farther, flatter than 7.62 NATO, though it does kick. I once put my left shoulder against a tree and fired - my back was sore for a week!

    The .50 MacMillan single-shot is state of the art when you want to "reach out and touch someone." The .50 has range out to a mile, if you're really good, or lucky.

    Oh, he asked about Operating Systems? Never mind.

  52. Tomorrow's news: by tomcrooze · · Score: 5
    April 1, 2001: Today will certainly be known as a sad day in Linux history. A large component of what made Linux successful, Slashdot.org will be moving to the FreeBSD distribution.

    The White House has had tens of thousands of angry "Slashdotters" started to protest in DC, while 500 police and National Guard officers patroled the area. Angry comments to the police such as "You won't understand what Slashdot meant to me!" and "L33T HAXORS OWNZ J00!" were exchanged, resulting in a fiery clash that left hundreds dead. The remaining crowd set fires, destroyed property, and put all the W's back on the keyboards in the White House. Mysteriously, about 50 pairs of pants with what appears to be hot grits in them were left behind.

    Even Natalie Portman tried to appease the crowd by unveiling a carved petrified-wood model of herself.

    Riots in Redmond, Washington have also broken out, as thousands of pro-Microsofter's started tailgate parties and drunken orgies in the Microsoft parking lot. Bill Gates was quoted as saying "I'm too old for this [sexual activity]."

    The global economy has plummeted, the moon has decided to start moving back towards earth, and Linus Torvalds is traveling by armored plane to Rob Malda to propose a Linux unification standard. Whether it will work out remains to be seen.

  53. Re:VA Linux PREFERS Linux by Kwantus · · Score: 1
    look at the cold hard facts - ftp.cdrom.com/ftp.freesoftware.com's and OpenBSD's track records

    not to mention Hotmail's

  54. Re:Sorry you think this is a joke... by Kwantus · · Score: 1
    maybe if you guys trimmed down on your HTML and overly image heavy pages, that would speed things up more considerably

    Probably would, although there are user options for getting lighter HTML (indispensible under Netscape. but Konqueror's progressive rendering is sufficiently awesome i've gone back to the fancier pages, partly because they have links the plain pages dont *cough*). As for images... i dunno, expand your cache or something (assuming /. doesn't set something that hoses caches). or turn off image loading.

  55. Re:For Future Reference... by MadAhab · · Score: 1
    The possibility is funny enough that it would redeem the rest of the nonsense.

    For that reason, I can't rid my mind of the idea.

    Boss of nothin. Big deal.
    Son, go get daddy's hard plastic eyes.

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  56. Re:Real life examples? by MadAhab · · Score: 2
    http://www.attrition.org/mirror/attrition/graphs/g roups_os.gif

    But in all honesty, the best argument is a straightforward upgrade path. I tried to upgrade a RedHat box, and after the fourth RPM that needed another RPM or was missing files or didn't compile correctly, I wiped the disc, mounted a couple dirs, and installed a fresh, current system with a few commands. If upgrading is hard, people do it less. That's why boxes get hacked, often.

    Boss of nothin. Big deal.
    Son, go get daddy's hard plastic eyes.

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  57. Humorous aspect by CAIMLAS · · Score: 4
    This is humorous simply because it's so 'last year' in nature. At this time last year, it seemed like linux might start to fracture. Now, things seem to be getting tighter and tighter, as the 'bad distributions' get weeded out, and the good ones take the precident. The fact that kernel 2.4 was (somewhat) recently released, bringing it quite near to par with the BSD kernel, just adds to the humor.

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  58. Actual Details of SMP in openBSD/linux please? by Elivs · · Score: 1

    Its an almost funny AJF, but an interesting technical comparison...

    I realise that many experts believe linux2.4 is a better SMP system than openBSD but can someone please send a link to a document explaing the differences of the two OSes, with pro and cons in both designs.

    Some us are interesed (for personal learning) but don't get to play (and hence learn) with expensive hardware.

    Thanks
    Elivs

    PS- I don't want a flame war, just a technical piece.

    1. Re:Actual Details of SMP in openBSD/linux please? by methodic · · Score: 1

      well, considering the fact that openbsd has zero smp support.... id say linux 2.4 has a better smp system.

  59. Re:unsuspectedly ... by civilizedINTENSITY · · Score: 1

    Just gotta LOVE a site that starts out: "If you're using Lynx, you can use the Text-Only Skin" :-)

  60. Re:Real life examples? by civilizedINTENSITY · · Score: 1

    I've always prefered Deringer's .41 caliber with the .410 shotgun shells and 3x .357 balls per shell. With a double barrel model you can squeeze off 6 .357 balls at once :-)

    Admittedly lacks range, but up close its alota fun!

  61. Re:wait a second... by Ruzty · · Score: 1

    Michigan is in the Eastern time zone. The Central time zone generally begins west of Lake Michigan (with some exceptions).

    -Rusty

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  62. International readership = problem? by Manaz · · Score: 3

    How the post looks in Sydney, Australia (GMT10+).

    Gotta hate it when your April Fools joke bites you due to differences in time zones....

    1. Re:International readership = problem? by he-sk · · Score: 1

      Yeah, one good post, just like last year, and the year before IIRC. Yawn.

      Although I liked the quote: "Are we done yet? I have things to code." But that's just me.

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  63. ComanderTaco? by DanThe1Man · · Score: 1

    Does anyone else find it funny that ComanderTaco never posted anything? I guess he learned from last year that everyone hates this and let other writters get flamed.

  64. Re:wait a second... by DanThe1Man · · Score: 1

    Yea, but before Daylight-savings-time Slashdot was on eastern time. Are you telling me it as a sudden unannouced descion for slashdot to move to Central time?

  65. Re:wait a second... by DanThe1Man · · Score: 1

    Ok,and its still set that way, its its still an hour off. Is it not for you?

  66. Re:wait a second... by DanThe1Man · · Score: 1

    True, and this story says it was posted "11pm April 1st" on my screen when it was really posted on 12am April 2nd. Hince, as my orginal post said, their clocks are not set for daylight savings time.

  67. Re:wait a second... by DanThe1Man · · Score: 1

    Did you not notice that the posted story time was an hour before the real time, in any time zone, or am I drunk off cough surrup again? The posts time are off by an hour too. You just posted this comment that I'm replying to a few minutes ago but it says its been there for more then an hour!

  68. Re:wait a second... by DanThe1Man · · Score: 1

    oh, woops, yea thanks. I was set on Eastern Standard. I didn't even know there was a differnce.

  69. Re:wait a second... by DanThe1Man · · Score: 1

    oh woops nevermind. Eastern standard, eastern daylight? I never heard thouse terms before you pointed that out. Thanks.

  70. Re:Spring break. by DanThe1Man · · Score: 1

    damn straight

  71. wait a second... by DanThe1Man · · Score: 2

    this was posted on April 2, (the Slashot clock wasn't set for daylight savings) but it can't be true.

    1. Re:wait a second... by Coward,+Anonymous · · Score: 2

      Go to your Customize Homepage and choose the appropriate Daylight timezone.

    2. Re:wait a second... by theancient1 · · Score: 1

      I had always been told that April Fool's ended at noon anyway... (News outlets in my home town would air a fake story throughout the morning, and not reveal it as a hoax until noon: the supposed end of April Fool's.)

      Of course, what kind of geek gets up before noon on a Sunday. :)

    3. Re:wait a second... by Cassivs · · Score: 2

      slashdot is currently in waltham, massachusetts eastern time.

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    4. Re:wait a second... by Ami_Chan · · Score: 2

      this was posted on April 2

      Think about time zones. Where I am, it is 11:23 PM April 1. This is the central time zone. Don't forget that many of the slashdot stories for parties are what not occur on the west coast-Pacific Time. They have enough time left on their April Fool's clocks.

  72. Re:FreeBSD? by ASCIIMan · · Score: 1

    Xenu's Not Unix.

  73. Re:FreeBSD? by Zorikin · · Score: 1

    Xenix would have been funnier.

  74. :) by realberen · · Score: 1

    Two words: Good stuff! :)

  75. Ahhh jeez, not again! by The+Original+Bobski · · Score: 1

    I vote for one and only one really good joke. This endless stream of lame attempts is really getting boring.
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  76. Re:Well that does it by Dwonis · · Score: 1

    I don't use BSD... I use Linux! =)
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  77. Well that does it by Dwonis · · Score: 2

    Heh! This is probably an April Fools' day joke, which tells us all how clueless the Slashdot crew really is. To them, it's a joke that will never be true. To many of us, it's quite possible and it would be quite rational to move to FreeBSD for a high-load network service (i.e. website). Go figure!

    Good try, anyway!
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    1. Re:Well that does it by Nevrar · · Score: 1

      A good april fools joke is believable to some extent...

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  78. ...ok... by Microlith · · Score: 1

    Um, yeah.

    Earth to Slashdot! Earth to Slashdot!

    Come in!

    The Geeks in Space must have gone to far...

    Seriously. Get back to reality please... You should have hours ago, but apparently the Cluetrain left and still hasn't come back.

  79. It can't possibly be true! by cgaylord · · Score: 1

    FreeBSD is dead! I heard it on /. so it must be true.

  80. Re:Odor by gidds · · Score: 1
    Erm, could you explain a few things to a poor Brit who doesn't get all these US cultural references please?
    • Who's this Natalie Portman? Some relation of The Prisoner actor Eric Portman?
    • What exactly are 'grits'? I suspect you're not talking about the stuff you put on the roads in cold weather?
    • What's all this "are belong to us"? I guess it's either a film reference, or a simultaneous outbreak of unusually bad grammar (either seems possible!).
    Please note: this is no joke!
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  81. Re:The Jewish Problem by colmore · · Score: 1

    Wow! My friends have no emotions? Sure fooled me.

    I think someone got beat up by a big kid in a yarmulke on the playground and never quite got over it.

    Or were you rejected from art school?

    It's times like these, when my belief in absolute free speach and my dislike of loud morons come into conflict, that I just have to lay down and take a nap, pretending that all is right in this world.

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  82. Re:Have you all forgotten already? by pnatural · · Score: 1

    You cant even get a half-decent JVM for the thing.

    you say that like it's a bad thing. free your mind and the code will follow.

  83. Ohh, really funny! by be-fan · · Score: 2

    God forbid they actually use something better suited to the job! I don't know if FreeBSD 5.0 is that product, but it is stupid to use an inferior product (not that Linux is that product!) just because you have groundless attraction to it.

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  84. ANY serious posts? by danwatt · · Score: 1

    Come on, were there ANY serious posts today?

  85. Well... by Pseudonym · · Score: 3

    I'm gonna go cybersquat on vabsd.com right now.

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  86. Re:Odor by maraist · · Score: 2

    Perl code should actually port fine to Windows.
    There are subtle problems. Even something as stupid as hard-coding a "/tmp" path can make a program fail to port to Windows.


    Doing mod_perl, I can't imagine that one would be using material that's non portable. The caveat is C-compiled extensions, such as DBD::Mysql. I believe the windows client is freely available, but it might not be trivial to get everything going.

    As for coding to "/tmp", what's wrong with making a temp-directory? I thought the slashes were adaptable in perl.

    Not saying there might not be problems - Hell the CPAN module issue became a nightmare when we moved from Linux to Solaris - but most pure perl code should be inherently portable. Even the UNIX fork now works in windows (thanks to interpreter multi-threading).

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  87. April Fools? by _marshall · · Score: 1

    Is this a slashdot-style april fools? Not that it matters, but it's a good one if it is.

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  88. Re:Odor by BasharTeg · · Score: 1
    B) Tracking down any nuance in the Linux -> FreeBSD transisition -- code but I'm really _really_ doubting it was built with portability in mind.
    It was written in Perl... I think we have something compatible with that in BSD. Lemme check, wait, yes, here it is,
    • /usr/bin/perl

    C) With all the pro-Linux stuff I see on here I'd consider it more likely to see Natalie Portman waring a pants full of hot grits screaming "All your base are belong to us!" in the middle of Times Square than see Slahdot switch to a BSD.

    Geez ! I'm at work right now and I'm trying to code ! I can't work with Natalie Portman on my mind ! You owe my work whatever one day of my salary is !

  89. unsuspectedly ... by rbolkey · · Score: 2

    ... the best april fool's joke on slashdot today was a banner ad:

    See Java run ...
    See Java run fast ...
    See Java run fast on Mac OS X.

    Mad props to Apple Inc. for that one.

    1. Re:unsuspectedly ... by radish · · Score: 1


      wooooah...makes me wanna buy a mac :-)

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    2. Re:unsuspectedly ... by The_Messenger · · Score: 1
      A cross-platform distributed object model?

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    3. Re:unsuspectedly ... by The_Messenger · · Score: 1
      I admit that Java isn't perfect for everything. But it's good at much more than most give it credit for.

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    4. Re:unsuspectedly ... by The_Messenger · · Score: 3
      I'll never get why so many of you think Java is slow. Yes, it's windowing code sucks. But I don't use it for making GUIs. I use it for creating so-called "enterprise" software systems, where its unbeatable database connectivity, portability, purely OO design, excellent threading model, and short development times make up for any loss of speed.

      Yes, it uses interpreted bytecode, and is therefore slower than native machine code. But to be honest, on the kind of hardware that most of my clients use, you'll never get close to hitting the machine's limitations. I'm currently implementing an online exchange system on a cluster of RS/6000 M80s, for God's sake.

      Most of you have obtained your "knowledge" of Java from watching an applet crash your browser. Big fucking surprise -- applets are the weakest part of the language, and Netscape sucks fucking goat balls. Everyone on this site has used at least one Microsoft product, so I try to forgive the senseless MS-bashing, but I guarantee that less than 1% of you Java-bashers have hacked any Java, and only 1% of that 1% got farther than "Hello, world!" before screaming, "Ew, it's so different than PERL! Back to scripting languages for my dumb ass!"

      People like that are such fucking hypocrites. They think they're UNIX people, but resist Java in the same way that the ASM nuts laughed at UNIX. "You can't write an OS in C, it'll be too slow!" The joke was on them, and it'll be on you too.

      True, some languages are fads, but Java has proven years ago that it's here to stay. Working enterprise application developers -- even those using NT -- know this. Why are UNIX people so resistant? Java brings the power of COM and DCOM to UNIX, who wouldn't want that? (Yeah, CORBA does the same thing, and Java has CORBA support in case it ever catches on outside of Borland. :-) Personally, I happen to like the fact that I could, if necessary, port all of my software on my current project from UNIX to NT in a few hours:

      1. Install WebLogic on NT.
      2. cvs checkout exchange-code
      3. Start server

      And there will also come a time, not today, not tomorrow, but soon, when Java's GUI limitations will fall behind. Anyone who has used JBuilder 4 (yeah, I still use EMACS, but it was installed on my new box so I tried it out. Not too shabby!) or TogetherJ (very cool UML design tool, and much less expensive than Rose) knows what I'm talking about.

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    5. Re:unsuspectedly ... by chrischow · · Score: 1
      so starting a whole different OS inside another OS

      i kinda expect it to be slow

    6. Re:unsuspectedly ... by Andreas+Rueckert · · Score: 1

      I don't know about performance, but Java looks really cool on OS X. See ArgoUML running on a Mac... http://www.nwlink.com/~stevep/ArgoScreenShot.jpg
      I wish it would look half as good on my Linux box...

    7. Re:unsuspectedly ... by turingstudio · · Score: 1
      ehgh?

      As someone who decides what stuff to use to build sites, I avoid java like the crusty, copyrighted, slow crap that it is.

      I've been involved in projects driven by servlets, and they were all a total nightmare: java doesn't like 8bit chars, java is slow, java this, java that. who has the time?

      For a few things, I'm sure java is actually fine. But certainly not for web development, gawd! There are better, um, freeer choices: http://www.php.net.

      Java isn't os, so I don't use it.

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    8. Re:unsuspectedly ... by Fervent · · Score: 2
      hehehe

      If you think that's bad, you should try starting OS 9.1 Classic from within OS X. Be prepared to go get a cup of coffee.

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    9. Re:unsuspectedly ... by mojo-raisin · · Score: 1

      april fools!

    10. Re:unsuspectedly ... by Alatar · · Score: 1

      I can only speak from my own knowledge of java programs, non-GUI system daemons in a production environment, and they're slow as hell and crash a lot. We're slowly replacing them with ProC and C++ agents, and the difference is like night and day.

  90. idiots by selectspec · · Score: 2

    While I am sure the flamebait is a comin', I must remark that I think Slashdot is being rather foolish. Nothing against FreeBSD 5.0. It is a great OS and may it live long and prosper. However, to move based on FreeBSD 5.0's SMP support is extremely stupid. First of all, FreeBSD 5.0's SMP support is at best par with Linux 2.4. The argument that Linux is splintering is even more stupid. All of my linux news pretty much comes from Slashdot links, and everything posted in the past few months clearly points to Linux becoming more centralized! Look at the Linux 2.5 debate! However, FreeBSD is a great OS, no question about it. But, I doubt that Slashdot will accomplish anything other than some extra IT expenses by moving to FreeBSD.

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  91. Re:Which humourless moron modded this down? by Timbo · · Score: 1

    Probably a BSD zealot. :)

  92. VA Linux PREFERS Linux by surlybastard · · Score: 2

    I have been told first hand by some people who work at VA that supporting BSD is something that they've been looking in to and have done a little of in the past.

    So I don't think that the possibility of /. switching is all that far-fetched. If it is a April Fools...Kudos to the editors for putting together a rather plausible goof.

    For anyone that will go to the grave exclaiming that Linux rules and *BSD sucks, look at the cold hard facts - ftp.cdrom.com/ftp.freesoftware.com's and OpenBSD's track records. I work on Linux and use FreeBSD at home because I prefer it. Maybe the BSDs are not as "bleeding-edge" but they work, plain and simple. No fragmented distributions and code-bases, just cohesive functiong product.

  93. ...obvious april fools article. by TheKodiak · · Score: 1

    All else aside, the fact that this was an april fools "joke" was obvious from the journalistic tone of the text, in contrast to the standard "I was just coming down off some meth, and a guy told me about something cool" aura surrounding most of the posts.

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  94. Re:Odor by barneyfoo · · Score: 2

    Just for your further edification, FreeBSD's SMP support is on a level with Linux2.0's. That means it has one giant kernel lock, and is really only useful up to 2 processors (and really not even then). Whereas Linux has had alot of tuning in this area, it scales up to around 8 processors, and can do 12 or 16 if you're really masochistic. (SGI had it running on 32, but said nothing of efficiency).

    For good FreeBSD SMP you're going to have to wait for 5.0.. But that probably wont be out until 2004.

  95. Troll -1: flamebait by Vicegrip · · Score: 1

    Is anyone laughing?

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  96. Odor by Ledge+Kindred · · Score: 4
    Is it just me, or is there a squanty type of odor about this story...

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    1. Re:Odor by Dock · · Score: 1

      Slashdot: Please stop trying to tell jokes, you're not funny. Please. Something at least remotely funny would be something like "FBI switches network to Windows 2000, accidently reveals database containing answer to JFK conspiracy, IRS switches to Linux but through misconfiguration accidently DOS's the commerce department.." or something along these lines. Funny to some, corny to others, at least it's worth a 'heh', instead of a 'ugh'. wuvu

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    2. Re:Odor by he-sk · · Score: 1
      Just for your further edification, FreeBSD's SMP support is on a level with Linux2.0's.

      You know, with this information in mind, the story might actually be funny. See, the SMPng in the following statement

      John Baldwin, a kernel hacker working on SMPng at BSDI's Open Source Division [...]

      could be a subtle reference to the ever-so-late Mozilla project.

      But then again, this is Slashdot.

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    3. Re:Odor by friedo · · Score: 2
      A) Slashdot isn't coded for performance, never has been it seems like. It's an ad-hoc Perl/CGI implementation. This screams "bad performance" no matter what OS you put it on. Logically if they wanted a faster response time they'd code in mod_perl, php, or SOMETHING other than this archaic architecture.

      Slash is written with mod_perl. It's not CGI.

    4. Re:Odor by StandardDeviant · · Score: 5
      Slash is written with mod_perl. It's not CGI.

      Actually, slashcode is written in Gibberish. It's not mod_perl. (Well, ok, maybe it's Gibberish that plays mod_perl on TeeVee.)


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    5. Re:Odor by pi_rules · · Score: 4

      I agree entirely here. At first glance at the story, I'm thinking, "Okay, makes sense .. FreeBSD is supposed to the superior SMP system, right?". Wait.. backup.

      A) Slashdot isn't coded for performance, never has been it seems like. It's an ad-hoc Perl/CGI implementation. This screams "bad performance" no matter what OS you put it on. Logically if they wanted a faster response time they'd code in mod_perl, php, or SOMETHING other than this archaic architecture.

      B) Tracking down any nuance in the Linux -> FreeBSD transisition wouldn't be transparent. It should be, and I've never looked at the Slash code but I'm really _really_ doubting it was built with portability in mind. :)

      C) With all the pro-Linux stuff I see on here I'd consider it more likely to see Natalie Portman waring a pants full of hot grits screaming "All your base are belong to us!" in the middle of Times Square than see Slahdot switch to a BSD.

      The above was ment to be moderately humorous... sue me if I didn't hit my target.

      Justin Buist

  97. True or not :-) by PooF · · Score: 2
    from the you-never-know-it-might-actually-be-mostly-true dept. Guess you never really know... ya right...

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  98. Because the would've been obvious by _UnderTow_ · · Score: 1

    Because saying that they're moving to any windows platform would have been obviously an april fool's joke

    1. Re:Because the would've been obvious by Trepalium · · Score: 1

      And sacrificing a goat to the SCSI gods wasn't obvious? I wish they would've taken some time to develop their April 1st jokes into one or two well done subtle jokes instead of eight or so unfunny ones.

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    2. Re:Because the would've been obvious by Trepalium · · Score: 1

      Well, if he had said daemon, then there would've been the stupid joke about 'killall -9 bitlossd'

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  99. Packet Filtering by nihilogos · · Score: 5

    I'm trying to put a line in my firewall script (iptables v1.1.2) which will reject packets based on source address and the date. Can anyone help? I think this would be useful for a lot of people.

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    1. Re:Packet Filtering by athmanb · · Score: 1

      Use cron to switch filtering tables
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    2. Re:Packet Filtering by StandardDeviant · · Score: 1

      Well, you could always just turn off your computer... (the-no-plug-in-socket-firewall, works every time)


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  100. /. sees the light by ckuhtz · · Score: 1

    It's great to see /. see the light... I am a big fan of the 5.0 SMP code as well. I am surprised to see you guys move to a -CURRENT train, though. It seems to be pretty decent these days, but sets (potentially) a bad precedent perhaps. The whole idea is to upgrade to -RELEASE trains or other -STABLE trains to get production releases. I guess we'll just have to see how things go. Keep up the good work.

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  101. This would have been even funnier... by Ryu2 · · Score: 1
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  102. Slashdot to drop Slashcode for PHPNuke by wharfrat · · Score: 1

    SOMEWHERE IN MICHIGAN -- Slashdot, the web news portal for the tech-savy, has decided to migrate its back-end from the home-grown 'SlashCode' to 'PHPNuke'. The reasons being, 'Its writen in PHP, not Perl,' states HEMOS a cofounder of Slashdot. 'Perl just is not as cool as PHP... all the 'Hipsters' are using Perl and Linux... we don't feel all that unique anymore so PHP is the answer.'

  103. hmmm... by jbridge21 · · Score: 2

    If in doubt, nmap is your friend.
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  104. well... let's see by didiken · · Score: 1

    Okay.... they're ditching Linux. But after all FreeBSD is a proven server platform implemented from yahoo! to Mr. Gate's hotmail. Save your bandwidth slashdotting their server after upgrade. This is a more constructive way to express your will, rather than continuing to storm over "*BSD over Linux".

  105. APRIL FOOLS!!!! by emmons · · Score: 1

    Does anyone honestly believe this??? Besides, if it were really happening, CmdrTaco would be the one posting it.

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  106. Re:In a related move... by RAMWolf44 · · Score: 1

    Hey that was really funny. I could see Berke Brethed (Bloom County) illustrating that one. Really funny man!! Thanks for the giggle. As for the announcement, this is a joke, right?? RAMWolf44

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  107. Re:FreeBSD? by UnifiedTechs · · Score: 1

    Or MacOS maybe, followed by a rant by Taco about his problems posting stories with only one mouse button!!!

  108. Just make sure to back up everything first. by haystor · · Score: 1

    /. should lzip all the comments to make sure they get all important comments backed up safely.

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  109. Umm... by cperciva · · Score: 1

    1. It's April 2nd today, not the first. That means IT'S TIME FOR THE /. EDITORS TO STOP POSTING CRAZY STORIES.

    2. If /. were to switch to FreeBSD (which IMHO would be a good idea given its long history of running major websites) it should switch to 4.x-STABLE, NOT 5.0-CURRENT... the -CURRENT tree is specifically for *development* and not intended for use on production systems.

  110. For Future Reference... by Cheshire+Cat · · Score: 1
    Taco, Hemos, et al...if everything you write on April 1st is a prank, it just comes off lame and boring. Had you slipped this in amongst a dozen authentic posts, you'd've probably gotten some bites. Beating people over the head with "the funny" doesn't make it funny. Being sly and subtle goes a lot further than posting every drunken idea that crosses one's mind.

    Just something to consider for next year.

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    1. Re:For Future Reference... by ldvl · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but wouldn't it be funny if this one were true? If they slipped in a true story amidst a dozen pranks.

      "That's a good one Mr Clinton. For a minute there, you had me believing you actually had sex with one of your interns"

  111. Finally?!?! NOT by Skrap · · Score: 5

    I finally get to be a Moderator (supreme cosmic power at my fingertips!) and I get stuck moderating people's trolls on slashdot's april fools posts? Dah. Its a cruel cruel web.

    1. Re:Finally?!?! NOT by verbot · · Score: 2

      You get 3 days to moderate. If you don't see anything you like today, wait until tomorrow.

      And suddenly, a whooshing sound was heard as humor suddenly flew over someone's head....

  112. Giant Hit for Linux by giberti · · Score: 1

    Although /. has to keep in mind its performance etc, this is a giant blow for the Linux community. Congradulations to slashdot to evaluating a system on its numbers/specs rather than it's branding.

    It would be nice to see one stable viable version of linux that the entire community could get behind, but I think the pre-mature IPO situations last year killed any hope of that and forced linux into a corner.

    May the force be with Linux (and BSD) as each OS continues to grow against the evil empire.

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  113. about time by ericdano · · Score: 1
    About time. Perhaps the server performance will be better.

    FreeBSD is not something to make fun of. It is quite good.
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  114. If it was only real... by knowfear · · Score: 1

    If Slashdot did move to FreeBSD, then lame remarks such as "now only if we can get linux to run on it!" would have to be changed to "now only if we can get FreeBSD to run on it!"

  115. ahhh.. a perfect end to a perfect day by mr_gerbik · · Score: 4

    Shall I get the flamewar kicking?

    WHAT???? FREEBSD 5.0 SUCKS! Why not move to OS X for godsake?! If yer gonna dump Linux, move to something worthwhile.. hell, Windows ME running Personal Web Server would be a step up!

    -gerbik

    1. Re:ahhh.. a perfect end to a perfect day by Fervent · · Score: 2

      Ahem, Windows 2000 Professional (desktop) and Apache is kinda fun. :)

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    2. Re:ahhh.. a perfect end to a perfect day by athlon02 · · Score: 1

      WinME? over FreeBSD? for a server? uhh, yeah, nice April Fools joke!

    3. Re:ahhh.. a perfect end to a perfect day by norwoodites · · Score: 1

      Have you ever heard of the linux-emulation for the *BSD?

    4. Re:ahhh.. a perfect end to a perfect day by WolfDeusEx · · Score: 2
      Err what, I think you are confused. Maybe you are talking about the fact that RedHat put a bad version of gcc in 7.0. They have now corrected this and have a patch for it.

      Things I don't like about the different BSD's

      1)The Licence. (Expect for OpenBSD)
      2)The driver support, god it is worse that Linux. How the hell am I ment to get my geforce 2 GTS working in 3D.
      3)There are no real games. I can just about live with the amount of games for linux (just). But I would just have to crawl up and die if I could only chose between windows and BSD.

      Anyway that is the end of my karma.

      Mark Hillary

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  116. �Taken. by yerricde · · Score: 2

    VABSD.com is taken.

    Registrant:
    ByteCode (VABSD-DOM)
    1550 Sonnys Way
    Hollister, CA 95023
    US

    Domain Name: VABSD.COM

    Administrative Contact, Billing Contact:
    Brooks, Kevin (KB842) brooks@BYTECODE.COM
    ByteCode
    1789 Glenmorrie Dr.
    Lake Oswego, OR 97034
    US
    (408) 565-9601
    Technical Contact:
    Operations Center, NetGate Network (NNO) noc@NETGATE.NET
    NetGate Communications
    473 Sapena Court, Suite 6
    Santa Clara, CA 95054-2427
    (408) 565-9601

    Record last updated on 12-Mar-2000.
    Record expires on 12-Mar-2002.
    Record created on 12-Mar-2000.
    Database last updated on 1-Apr-2001 15:09:00 EDT.

    Domain servers in listed order:

    NS.NETGATE.NET 204.145.147.12
    NS2.NETGATE.NET 204.145.147.16
    NS3.NETGATE.NET 205.214.170.254

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  117. (OT)Spambots by yerricde · · Score: 2

    I'm really sure he loves you for posting his email address on a public archived site for all of the spam-bots to feast upon.

    Except registering a domain itself will post your address on a public whois database for all the spam-bots to query.

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  118. What are the best April Fools articles on the net? by lesterhv · · Score: 1

    This one should have been an Ask Slashdot

    What are the best/funniest April Fools jokes and articles on the web that you've seen? My favourite was the Mybc.com article about a bridge shutdown because of a rare bird. What makes it even better troll is that we are in the middle of a transit strike.

    Richer still the NDP (aka) socialists are about to be trounced -- check out the latin bird names

  119. Re:What are the best April Fools articles on the n by lesterhv · · Score: 1

    furgettabout the link. They've pulled the article. But the question still stands

  120. April Fools... on April 2nd? by Mekanix · · Score: 1

    This is getting soooo tiresome and anoying.

    April fools day *stops* at 0.00 April 2nd, and this story is posted April 2nd at 5.00 am (CET). April fools day have been long gone. Can't take another whole day of lame stories.

    Bjarne

  121. FOR GOD'S SAKE! by Carlos+Laviola · · Score: 1

    ENOUGH WITH THIS APRIL FOOLS STORIES, FOR CHRIST'S SAKE! I MEAN IT!

    You're tired of Slashdot ads? Get junkbuster now!

  122. ONE day, fine, but this article was posted April 2 by Otis_INF · · Score: 2

    So, now we have 2 april fool days? a whole week?
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  123. If it's not Debian, it's not true. by paqsys · · Score: 1

    Anyone that knows Slashdot central, would know that the servers would need to be pried from the cold dead hand of CmdrTaco before they would remove Debian.
    Besides this would have serious implications for the conspiracy theorists out there.

  124. SCSI gods by ca1v1n · · Score: 1

    To get a SCSI chain working, you must remember that there should be precisely three terminations: one at the drive, one at the SCSI controller, and a goat, terminated over the middle, preferably with a silver-handled knife, whilst burning black candles.

  125. Moving Slashdot to FreeBSD by rob_ert · · Score: 1

    Finally, I made the move about a year ago

  126. April Fools? by vespazzari · · Score: 1

    maybe, although I dont really even know what the post said, I just wanted to get first post

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  127. Re:Alcohol... not beer by vespazzari · · Score: 1

    yeah I noticed that the other night, but I havent changed my sig

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  128. Re:FreeBSD? by Poligraf · · Score: 1

    It would be too good to be true, as Bill Gates would comment such a news ;-)

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  129. Re:The Jewish Problem by sdprenzl · · Score: 1

    Hey, I think I know this guy. He was the singer/comedian at my little brother's Barmitzvah. Sort of a gonzo Andy Kaufmann type of humor. Lots of the older geezers there didn't get, though.

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  130. come on people... by slashdoter · · Score: 1
    Everyone keeps saying that they want some real news and to drop the April First thing. But as we who read slashdot know, they only post 3 or 4 stories on a Sunday. Let just give them a day to play around. Just one a year. relax and have what fun you can have with it.


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  131. FreeBSD? by DeeKayWon · · Score: 5

    If it were "Slashdot moving to Windows/IIS", it might've been funny.

    1. Re:FreeBSD? by PSUdaemon · · Score: 1

      How about Windows XP Beta 2, cause of that damned cool nickelodeon interface!

  132. GO "/." by kowpie · · Score: 1

    hey anything anit-microsoft im for...personaly i love linux---or anything unix hatched for that matter!!!!

  133. Yeah, funny by mallie_mcg · · Score: 1

    When u troll on April Fools day, kinda make it on THE DAY! IE: 01/April.
    See below:

    Posted by AilleCat on Monday April 02, @13:30
    from the you-never-know-it-might-actually-be-mostly-true dept.

    Ahh sorry, i am not a US citizen, therefore i dont count, so sorry, i will leave you alone mr americani. *bow*



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  134. More appropriately... by proxima · · Score: 2

    "Slashdot Moving To Windows 2000"

    In a somewhat surprising move, Slashdot administrators have chosen to move their primary web hosting servers to the Windows 2000 platform. While the audience of Slashdot is primarily unix-based and Microsoft-hating, CmdrTaco believes the move is justified.

    "You get what you pay for, so we're paying Microsoft a lot of money for our clustered servers. We like the fact that we can blame Microsoft when Slashdot gets overloaded with requests. In addition, Windows 2000 can run MySQL just as well as Linux. I also like to browse with Internet Explorer on the web server and click the pretty little widgets to mess with server hardware." he said.

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  135. Slashcode does not build on BSD by davedoom · · Score: 1

    I built slashcode pre release on openbsd the other day. My hands are still trembling. The thing is not set up to run on BSD. For instance in the make file is a cp command that will not work on BSD. They clearly have no intention to make this thing work with FreeBSD.

  136. freeBSD? 'gave that up when I moved to Linux by NRAdude · · Score: 2


    MS Windows 95 was giving me a free BSD about every nth slashdot post. I couldn't handle the Blue flashing and resorted to using Blue-Blocker sunglasses for awhile. I still couldn't block out the free BSD and so I moved to Linux and X11. Now I only see the Almighty God's free BSD outside my Window, a cloud drifting by, no protection errors in mother nature...

    Then those "people", those stinking relatives arived and they were pissed because they couldn't do anything on my newly protected computer system. Ever since that transitional day, I put a tux sticker on every computer I owned... Life is good... when the relatives get their stepin'...

    Socialists and Communists have nothing to fear,

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  137. Rather than repeat myself... by /dev/urandom · · Score: 1

    ... I'll just make a link.

  138. Re:Real life examples? by caffeinated_bunsen · · Score: 1
    I recommend 7.62x51mm NATO. The recoil's a bit annoying, but well worth it for the power. That's assuming you're talking small arms. If you want something bigger, there's nothing like a 120mm M256 with a depleted-uranium sabot round to make them see your point of view.


    That wasn't funny, was it? Oh well. I'll try harder next time.

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  139. Re:prout by ickyfreak · · Score: 1

    duh... yeah an april fool on the 2nd :)

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  140. Real life examples? by DCowern · · Score: 1

    Our college paper may soon be moving to Linux. I want us to move to OpenBSD for its increased security. Can anyone give me some ammo other than security to back up my stance?

    1. Re:Real life examples? by DCowern · · Score: 1

      On a side note, I *am* serious and yes, I did get the joke... just to clear up any confusion. ;-)

    2. Re:Real life examples? by serts · · Score: 1

      look ma, i done went and shot a hole in the trailer!

  141. It's a vise decision by kilaasi · · Score: 1

    Dear sirs. I can only say that you guys made a good decision.
    I myself started out with Linux, but felt compelled with an add for FreeBSD where I could rebuild all binaries from source with a single command. After having tried to install and then some reinstalls, I have become very fond of FreeBSD and favor this rather than Linux. Especially the ports-collection is awesome.
    Yahoo and Netcraft is prove of FreeBSD's maturity and robustness.
    regards Claus

  142. How Slashdot stole the April Fools by fedork · · Score: 1

    Actually sites like this are complete spoilage to the April Fools cause it is only really possible to fool anyone in person. You can't possibly fool thousands of people unless the joke is really stupid.

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  143. where is this goat obsession coming from. by leuk_he · · Score: 1

    I still miss the reference to goat, why is stil coming back every now and then. Nathalie Portman i can get (its even in the faq). But why always the reference to a goat??? and the web site...sx

  144. You may laugh, but... by mi · · Score: 1

    The SpamCop is moving in exactly this direction.

    They jumped to the new Linux kernel, when it was released, and had to go back due to problems, which I myself (as a frequent user) witnessed.

    According to their front page, they reverted to Linux-2.2 and their new servers are running FreeBSD... Make your own conclusions.

    -mi
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  145. THERE IS NO GOD, NOOOOOO!!!! by XJ1168986-B · · Score: 1

    Kidding, FreeBSD is a fine OS, and I'm sure FPs and trollers will appreciate the speed increase

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  146. Uggghhhh, April Fool's by greenshift · · Score: 1

    What happens when 10 people post to a website, each of whom has an April Fool's joke post? April 1st's Slashdot. Who in the hell is AllieCat anyway?

  147. April Fools! by Jaysyn · · Score: 1

    If you wanted to really get a laugh outta me, the headline should have been /. to change to Win2K Advanced Server. Now that would of had them rolling in the isles.

    Jaysyn

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  148. Re:04/01 by Godwin+O'Hitler · · Score: 1

    Or 01/04 as they say where I come from.

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  149. Which humourless moron modded this down? by Godwin+O'Hitler · · Score: 1

    Come on, own up ...

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  150. Oh... by TheFlu · · Score: 2
    Perhaps if you guys were to just move Slashdot to some decent hardware instead of trying to run the site on that Palm III CmdrTaco got for Christmas 2 years ago, you wouldn't be having this problem.

    I agree though, I find the SMP as well as the RAID support on the Palm to be rather lacking, but I'll be happy to send you my modified kernel for it if you wanna give that a shot.

    Teaching your girlfriend to play "Palm Pilot" >>> The Linux Pimp

  151. 11th Hour by Eharley · · Score: 1

    Hmmm....an eleventh hour move to the right technology. Good work, Slashdot

  152. Let me get some air in here! by AlXtreme · · Score: 1
    We nearly fainted when we saw this topic. Damm, you editors nearly got us... (killed :o)

    Let's hope it stays a april 1st joke, but as it's 2 april in europe, we couldn't laugh :o)

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  153. Community reaction by HongPong · · Score: 4

    In reaction to this announcement, Mr. Stallman screamed in anger. "This sort-of-closed-source BSD licensing scheme is inappropriate and unacceptable, and furthermore, the press release clearly says 'Linux,' not 'GNU/Linux.' I want Taco's head on a plate with a side of refried beans, now!!"

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  154. April 2nd by morie · · Score: 1

    Let's just asume it is still april 1st where you were when you wrote this...

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  155. Spring break. by jonsuen · · Score: 1

    Wow. You must be bored.

  156. In another news... by necrognome · · Score: 1
    Official Microsoft Press Release

    We have seen the light. We have been producing buggy, unoriginal software ever since we bought DOS for $50K. These practices, as of this moment, will cease. We are now an open source company. At the end of this year we will release Windows 2001 in three "innovative" versions:

    • Free.NET
    • Open.NET
    • Net.NET

    We understand that we have had run-ins with you, the Open Source Community, for a number of years now--but hey, at least we are Scientologists! To make of for all the trouble and restarts we've caused you, we invite you to use and enjoy the three flavors (described above) of the new Windows platform. We ask you to remember two things as you do this:

    1. Microsoft = = the American way
    2. All your distributions are belong to us

    Sincerely,
    $1US Gates

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  157. So does this mean by Darth+Gambit · · Score: 1

    Are Slashdot et all going to be run off of a duel G4 Power Mac running OS 10 because that would be SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO LAME! Nice joke though guys....almost fooled me.

  158. Re:why its fake by ffsnjb · · Score: 1

    1. Who cares who posts?
    2. FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT is the development branch thats been going on for AT LEAST 6 months
    3. Who cares?
    4. No.

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  159. May I just say.. by Beowulf_Boy · · Score: 1

    Yeah RighT!!!!!!!!!
    Taco's been with Linux since like .99 or something like that, I don't think he would ever switch.
    plus..This Exerpt..
    " Linux's disorganization, and the fact it seems like a a bunch of unconnected developers tried to write an OS with no
    prior planning or agreements has been hard for us at Slashdot who have to work with the Operating System. To the
    users, there will be no difference, the upgrade will be seamless. Trish and Jim will be happy and they will stop their
    complaining about Linux," he said."

    Sure, sounds a lot like Taco, doesn't it?

    Yeah,
    Hey guys, in Michigan, April 1st is over, Lets stop, K?

  160. Funny it's April Fools' Day by illumynite · · Score: 1

    But wow, how surreal if it's true

  161. FreeBSD by DavidBerg · · Score: 1

    Isn't it interesting to see how ignorant the majority of slashdot users/readers really are? Damn, if it doesn't say Linux or Open Source, then they believe it sucks. This is very typical closed mindedness that is what the OSS model is supposed to be against.

    Let's review this phoney slash statement for what it is, phoney.

    When is FreeBSD 5.0 coming out? Well, according to the freebsd site, that would be 3rd Quarter 2001. Hmm, and whend did this article state that it's being moved over? By the end of the month.

    Now, who owns Slashdot? A company whose stock symbol is LNUX. Now, I wonder if they are going to change it to FBSD? Maybe they could be called VA BSD.

    Oh well, I just am amazed at how gullable the average SlashDotter is.

    dave

  162. I always liked *bsd better by bwhalen · · Score: 1

    This is fabulous news, my grin for the day definitely.

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  163. SCSI gods by DaHat · · Score: 1

    bow before them.

  164. You /. editor guys can't troll. by perdida · · Score: 1

    a whole day of shitty april fools articles.

    The word 'goat' is in the article, for chrissakes. You sux0r.

    Re the changeover, like VALinux is gonna support this, anyway. what a useless cost outlay to make them even less congnizant of the daily operations of your site.

    This is why u guys should have stayed independent. If you actually WANTED to move to a *BSD you could. Now if you want to VAL is gonna see this article, disregard the date and accuse you of crying wolf and other forms of mismanagement.

    -perdida

    1. Re:You /. editor guys can't troll. by gags+bunny · · Score: 1

      its actually a reference to an old quote about how one of the crucial steps in establishing a scsi chain is sacrificing a goat.

  165. Early adoption by noz · · Score: 1

    FreeBSD does not yet recognise the 5.0 tree as their primary focus, but when they do we can assume that almost all bugs will be ironed out, however it has often been the case that there has remained one or two rather large bugs.

    The open source philosophy allows us to find and fix these bugs quickly with all products, so in reality /. will be contributing to the open source movement in another way, however it could compromise the security picking up an early major release of an operating system.

  166. Are you saying... by Thakandar2 · · Score: 1

    that Linux is not good enough? Oh sure, millions say that FreeBSD has better SMP capabilities, but are you going to listen to them, or an honest and unbiased Linux-Apostle like me? Who have you heard from more, really? I mean, Linux is even a cooler name than FreeBSD... and it's free as well! I just don't see the point.

  167. Experiment over! by Zeinfeld · · Score: 2
    Turns out that slashdot has returned back to Linux after their BSD experiment. The following is from the activities log

    10:02PM OK, thats it the slashcode is now running on an eight way CMP machine under FreeBSD

    10:23PM Started the synchronization process to sync the new system's disks to the old, this will take a while time for the copy to complete, time for dunkin doughnuts

    11:13PM Got paged on the RIM halfway through a double chocholate Kruler, system problem. Left the doughnut shop so fast the assistant now thinks we are undercover cops.

    11:45PM The console on the FreeBSD system is reading 'Kernel Panic', system is still up and running and the copy process is continuing

    12:34PM Cmdr Taco just discovered that although the system is still running it now reports only six processors, what happened to the other two? Should we take the system down?

    01:23AM This is wierd, according to the system console all eight processors are running, only two of them are now running OpenBSD.

    02:30AM Two more processors have defected, one has joined the OpenBSD cluster, the other is running a variant called SafeBSD.

    02:45AM Things are getting worse, the four renegade processors are demanding equal rights in the decision making process and an equal share of the X-Windows output server.

    03:44AM Two more processors have defected, one from the FreeBSD camp to OpenBSD, this is partly compensated for by another processor leaving the OpenBSD camp and moving to an earlier FreeBSD release.

    04:23AM Another defection, this time the CPU in question is demanding a byte-order change operation.

    05:23AM Civil war has broken out. The rival O/S factions are placing locks on the various system resources

    etc.

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  168. Yikes... by Scoria · · Score: 1

    Time to become a FreeBSD zealot, I guess.

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  169. No More! by CeramicNuts · · Score: 1

    I hate April 1st.

  170. Aha! by CanSpice · · Score: 1

    So that's why it seems so much quicker today...

  171. Re:In a related move... by bryan1945 · · Score: 1

    Bloom County was my all-time favorite cartoon!!!

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  172. In a related move... by bryan1945 · · Score: 4

    Microsoft has decided to move to Mac OS X, while Linus believes that Windows ME 0.3 is the future of all computing. In un-related news, Sun loves AMD and SGI is may as well be dog-humping SCO. Steve Jobs has jumped in bed with the new Amiga company, and HP-UX will now be called BeOS. Wall Street has collectively commited suicide, and the American public pretty much just yawned, except for the 145 day traders who strung themselves up by the privates.....

    Newsweek says, "We like cheese"

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  173. freebsd isn't at 5.0 by ender's_shadow · · Score: 1

    this was posted last night, but it probably is now. anyway, freebsd is only at 4.2 right now, right?

  174. Re:Alright by lotion · · Score: 1

    The first release on what is now the -current branch will be FreeBSD 5.0, scheduled for the third quarter of 2001.

  175. Re:Wrestlemania X-7 by wanton · · Score: 1

    here is the goat that should be sacrificed!!! Goat

  176. April 2, not first by cb0y · · Score: 1

    Are you up late at night to 4am?

    Its april 2, not 1.

    I think we should all teach slashdot and others a lesson, DONT READ ANY of these sites in future on april 1 and 2. To teach them a lesson.

  177. Funny thing is, freebsd would work better by cb0y · · Score: 1

    now thats the joke on linux

  178. Have you all forgotten already? by jmock · · Score: 1

    It seems like most of you have forgotten that Slashdot, Freshmeat, and a number of other OSDN sites are already sitting behind two FreeBSD boxes. That's right kids, those are the firewall machines that protect Slashdot from a number of DoS attacks.

    Due to that fact, I don't know why it'd seem too surprising that the decision was made to switch to FreeBSD since it already plays an important role in Slashdot's operation.

  179. April fools by esarmiento · · Score: 1

    I'm kind of pissed. I wish Slashdot would only post verified news on April fools. Or, atleast, after that day, tell us which post was real or not. It would be exciting for Slashdot to move from Linux->FreeBSD, but I doubt it'll happen.

  180. I hope for your own sake... by iso9660 · · Score: 1
    that this is some sort of april joke. Leaving Debian? What are you thinking of? :)

    So much for ethics...

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  181. Who is BSD? by jimbojames · · Score: 1

    Why is Slashdot moving to FreeBSD, I never got a vote! What did this bloke do to get locked up in the first place? FreeNelsonMandela!
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  182. Oh here we go... by catpyss · · Score: 1

    Im sure this is going to start a firestorm of uninformed remarks. This is clearly a joke but I am willing to bet we will see all kinds of posts comparing Linux and BSD OSs.

  183. But Wait... by increduloidx · · Score: 1

    It's no longer April Fools, dolts.

    Posted by AilleCat on Monday April 02, @12:00AM

    Move along, people, there's nothing to see here.


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  184. Humm.. it worked before! by vandelay · · Score: 1
    I get a shiver reading these words..

    ...John Baldwin, a kernel hacker working on SMPng at BSDI's Open Source Division, said that "it should be able to handle Slashdot just fine, Are we done yet? I have things to code."

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  185. Re:Alright by lmd · · Score: 1

    Its only a few more hours before April 2 (depending on where you live, of course) and hopefully no more lame April Fools jokes. However, this could be true. This is likely to be the last post of April 1 and they expect us to think its another April Fools joke but in fact it could be true.

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  186. FreeBSD! The logical choice! by Punjabi_dost · · Score: 1

    The OpenSource UNIX world has two distinct groups of people. Those who know; and those who think they know. Unfortunately the LINUX losers flaming the decision to go to FreeBSD are the ones who belong to the latter group. Poor souls - they sincerely believe what they say. Treat them gently guys, give them the same sympathy you would extend to a mentally challenged member of soceity.