Oh, I agree with you. I was only using a single example, punishment is just one way of getting people to listen. I personally would take it as a last resort. Your argument makes sense, and that's what I'm saying. Parents need to stop being so lazy, and just figure out what they need to do to get their kids to listen. Saying "I don't know how" isn't an excuse, though. Neither is "video games and music did it". I listened to rap since I can remember, and I turned out to be (if I do say so myself) quite a contribution to society.
I couldn't agree more. I can see the need for trucks, certainly, but to drive them as an every day item is just foolish. This is your world as well as mine, and I'd appreciate it if you gave half a damn about it. I bet you also think it's fine to just pitch all your garbage out the side of the window as well.
No, superior cost-free tools are what causes the commercial applications to stop selling. Anybody with half a brain (which is common in programmers, it's sort of a job requirement) is going to research before they settle on any one tool. Most people I know continually search for new tools, looking for that perfect one. I've settled between 3 so far, Komodo Edit, Notepad++, and Eclipse (Eclipse on linux, it sucks on windows).
They're all free, and they're all superior to any tools that cost money that I've seen so far.
I completely agree with you 100%. I have no idea what your parent poster was talking about, or where he thinks he can draw such foolish and irresponsible deductions. It's hard raising kids, but to say that it's impossible to make them listen to you is absolutely outrageous. I feel that today it's even _easier_ to raise your kids, regardless of child abuse laws (which are also extremely overdone). Children today are so spoiled, it's cake to punish them. They have at LEAST 1000% more luxuries than you are required to give them, so do the simple thing and take all those things away until they listen. Nobody HAS to watch tv, talk on the phone, go outside (more than what is healthy), play on the computer, play video games, hang out with friends, go to the pool, go to the park, etc. etc. Continue to take things away until they listen to you, or until you've reached the bare minimum (food, water, shelter, clothing, etc.). If they STILL don't listen, then you have a genuine problem.
And don't tell me "they get obnoxious when they don't have TV, it's the easiest way for me to cope". You're a parent, nobody expects you to be 100% sane. You decided to have kids, so now you can decide to deal with your consequences.
Just omitting portions of CSS and JavaScript, the same way most hacks work, only without ever sending it to the browser if the hack would normally just be hidden anyway.
I have a 15mbps connection with 500 up (also not sure advertised).
Even with all of that bandwidth, as soon as my single roommate starts his bittorrent client up the whole internet connection goes to shit.
I find it much better to hack the code before you even output it to the browser. It's much more likely to be done accurately, and it also ensures validated code.
And don't mention user agent, because anybody that's changing their user agents knows the website's going to render differently.
That's not what's being debated in my post, I'm saying that as web developers, it's your job to make sure it gets to as many users as possible. We don't have a say in Microsoft's bad practices (usually), so the next best thing is to make sure that at least the users of it's browser (and many of them aren't necessarily users by choice, either that they just can't use another browser or don't know) can view our websites. If you feel that you can omit the entire Internet Explorer group, then you're a fool.
I have to agree with you there.
I code my site to look good in a normal browser (like firefox), then go back in with either CSS or Server Side HTML Change hacks, to make it render properly in IE 6+. Since I've coded this way, all I'll have to do is tell everything that IE8 users will see the same page as Firefox users, meaning I won't have to do anything more than add another case in my switch/case determining which hacks should be included into the page from my PHP.
I just wish more developers should realize this is how it should be done from the beginning.
No, they simply said that they had a policy. The policy states that you can drop off the PDA at a PDA holding place, if you like, but you are never forced to.
But they are not saying that. They are saying that you have 3 options: Drop your PDA off, don't bring it, or go somewhere else. They aren't overriding any law, because there's the always-available "go somewhere else" option.
I'm the OP. I've asked them several times to stop, and he just straight up refuses.
Plus, running QoS on the WRT54G severely slows the whole thing down, so that doesn't work. Unless you mean the roommates client, in which case I refer to the above section of the post.
Also, since running it my electricity hasn't gone up any noticeable difference. A single computer without a monitor doesn't use that much electricity.
I have. I also have my Nokia N800, which allows for fullscreen touch keypad entry. Both are probably the best methods of input, as far as touchpad entry goes, but hardkeys are ALWAYS better suited for typing, especially typing in programming text, than softkeys. It's much more acurate, faster, and not only that but it doesn't require you to continue wiping your screen for (because I don't know about you, but I don't always have an opportunity to wash my hands when I need to do some quick typing.)
The magic of a new version: You don't have to upgrade. My company is still using PHP 4 on a couple servers, and will continue to do so until the clients decide they want to go with a full site upgrade which requires a rewrite.
Or so you think. I used to work with a design team that would use Dreamweaver to design it. They'd send me the code, and not only would it make absolutely no sense (just looking at the source code) but it would be INSANE to try to implement in a real-world scenario.
It once gave me 19 consecutive divs with each relying on the other's position for the output. These divs all contained things such as menu items, the content, the copyright. None of them were seperated, it was literally after . To add another item to the menu, I had to first go through and edit all the other successive divs and increment which class they implemented, then create a new class with it's own special positioning.
I'll stick with Notepad++ for windows, and Eclipse (or Kate) for Linux. Eclipse has all the great code-completion features, without auto-coding it (which is bad for those of us who actually care about the output).
That's why it's called obsolete, it means that if you're using it and it's been deemed obsolete then it's time to upgrade.
Don't act like it's a short notice thing either, we STILL have parallel and serial ports, and PS/2 ports in the back of our machines. I haven't (even in any workplace I've seen) seen them used, and I know that almost everything connected to your PC is now either VGA, DVI, 3.5mm, USB, or over the network. I'm not saying that they should remove the ports now, but when they give you this long to upgrade from PS/2 to USB, then don't complain when they finally say it's time to move on for real.
The telemarketers aren't stupid, they're normal people that need a paycheck and telemarketing is a job that takes very little skill. There's ads for telemarketing jobs at my school all the time, and a lot of my fellow poor college students have mentioned it. The telemarketing companies, I agree, are fucking dumb.
Why is this news? This is a once a year payment, is it not? Even with a part time job averaging less than 15 hours a week I could afford a domain for myself. Unless you're buying thousands or millions of domains, this isn't really going to affect you...
Won't even load in firefox, and in IE it continues to insist that I don't have flash installed when I've clearly run the installer that they themselves redirected me to.
I'll stick with my TPB'ed free Photoshop. Runs faster anyway.
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Wow! Somebody in the world enjoys sexual material! Who would have thought it?!
Honestly guys, who the hell cares if somebody watches porn. If that's what he wants, it's what he wants. Fuck off, you.
Oh, I agree with you. I was only using a single example, punishment is just one way of getting people to listen. I personally would take it as a last resort. Your argument makes sense, and that's what I'm saying. Parents need to stop being so lazy, and just figure out what they need to do to get their kids to listen. Saying "I don't know how" isn't an excuse, though. Neither is "video games and music did it". I listened to rap since I can remember, and I turned out to be (if I do say so myself) quite a contribution to society.
Somebody mod this man's parent -3 Owned.
I couldn't agree more. I can see the need for trucks, certainly, but to drive them as an every day item is just foolish. This is your world as well as mine, and I'd appreciate it if you gave half a damn about it. I bet you also think it's fine to just pitch all your garbage out the side of the window as well.
No, superior cost-free tools are what causes the commercial applications to stop selling. Anybody with half a brain (which is common in programmers, it's sort of a job requirement) is going to research before they settle on any one tool. Most people I know continually search for new tools, looking for that perfect one. I've settled between 3 so far, Komodo Edit, Notepad++, and Eclipse (Eclipse on linux, it sucks on windows).
They're all free, and they're all superior to any tools that cost money that I've seen so far.
I completely agree with you 100%. I have no idea what your parent poster was talking about, or where he thinks he can draw such foolish and irresponsible deductions. It's hard raising kids, but to say that it's impossible to make them listen to you is absolutely outrageous. I feel that today it's even _easier_ to raise your kids, regardless of child abuse laws (which are also extremely overdone). Children today are so spoiled, it's cake to punish them. They have at LEAST 1000% more luxuries than you are required to give them, so do the simple thing and take all those things away until they listen. Nobody HAS to watch tv, talk on the phone, go outside (more than what is healthy), play on the computer, play video games, hang out with friends, go to the pool, go to the park, etc. etc. Continue to take things away until they listen to you, or until you've reached the bare minimum (food, water, shelter, clothing, etc.). If they STILL don't listen, then you have a genuine problem.
And don't tell me "they get obnoxious when they don't have TV, it's the easiest way for me to cope". You're a parent, nobody expects you to be 100% sane. You decided to have kids, so now you can decide to deal with your consequences.
It's an amazing thing, responsibility.
Just omitting portions of CSS and JavaScript, the same way most hacks work, only without ever sending it to the browser if the hack would normally just be hidden anyway.
I have a 15mbps connection with 500 up (also not sure advertised). Even with all of that bandwidth, as soon as my single roommate starts his bittorrent client up the whole internet connection goes to shit.
I find it much better to hack the code before you even output it to the browser. It's much more likely to be done accurately, and it also ensures validated code. And don't mention user agent, because anybody that's changing their user agents knows the website's going to render differently.
That's not what's being debated in my post, I'm saying that as web developers, it's your job to make sure it gets to as many users as possible. We don't have a say in Microsoft's bad practices (usually), so the next best thing is to make sure that at least the users of it's browser (and many of them aren't necessarily users by choice, either that they just can't use another browser or don't know) can view our websites. If you feel that you can omit the entire Internet Explorer group, then you're a fool.
I have to agree with you there. I code my site to look good in a normal browser (like firefox), then go back in with either CSS or Server Side HTML Change hacks, to make it render properly in IE 6+. Since I've coded this way, all I'll have to do is tell everything that IE8 users will see the same page as Firefox users, meaning I won't have to do anything more than add another case in my switch/case determining which hacks should be included into the page from my PHP. I just wish more developers should realize this is how it should be done from the beginning.
No, they simply said that they had a policy. The policy states that you can drop off the PDA at a PDA holding place, if you like, but you are never forced to.
But they are not saying that. They are saying that you have 3 options: Drop your PDA off, don't bring it, or go somewhere else. They aren't overriding any law, because there's the always-available "go somewhere else" option.
I'm the OP. I've asked them several times to stop, and he just straight up refuses. Plus, running QoS on the WRT54G severely slows the whole thing down, so that doesn't work. Unless you mean the roommates client, in which case I refer to the above section of the post. Also, since running it my electricity hasn't gone up any noticeable difference. A single computer without a monitor doesn't use that much electricity.
No, they should host the DTDs for w3c
I have. I also have my Nokia N800, which allows for fullscreen touch keypad entry. Both are probably the best methods of input, as far as touchpad entry goes, but hardkeys are ALWAYS better suited for typing, especially typing in programming text, than softkeys. It's much more acurate, faster, and not only that but it doesn't require you to continue wiping your screen for (because I don't know about you, but I don't always have an opportunity to wash my hands when I need to do some quick typing.)
The magic of a new version: You don't have to upgrade. My company is still using PHP 4 on a couple servers, and will continue to do so until the clients decide they want to go with a full site upgrade which requires a rewrite.
Or so you think. I used to work with a design team that would use Dreamweaver to design it. They'd send me the code, and not only would it make absolutely no sense (just looking at the source code) but it would be INSANE to try to implement in a real-world scenario. It once gave me 19 consecutive divs with each relying on the other's position for the output. These divs all contained things such as menu items, the content, the copyright. None of them were seperated, it was literally after . To add another item to the menu, I had to first go through and edit all the other successive divs and increment which class they implemented, then create a new class with it's own special positioning. I'll stick with Notepad++ for windows, and Eclipse (or Kate) for Linux. Eclipse has all the great code-completion features, without auto-coding it (which is bad for those of us who actually care about the output).
I love how this post has been made, yet the argument continues on as if it had not. I mean, nobody has even replied to this. Just READ IT.
Can we mod this +15 and attach it to the original article?
Someone mod parent funny.
Which would help if we weren't in 2008. They use mostly laser now, which radar doesn't pick up.
That's why it's called obsolete, it means that if you're using it and it's been deemed obsolete then it's time to upgrade.
Don't act like it's a short notice thing either, we STILL have parallel and serial ports, and PS/2 ports in the back of our machines. I haven't (even in any workplace I've seen) seen them used, and I know that almost everything connected to your PC is now either VGA, DVI, 3.5mm, USB, or over the network. I'm not saying that they should remove the ports now, but when they give you this long to upgrade from PS/2 to USB, then don't complain when they finally say it's time to move on for real.
The telemarketers aren't stupid, they're normal people that need a paycheck and telemarketing is a job that takes very little skill. There's ads for telemarketing jobs at my school all the time, and a lot of my fellow poor college students have mentioned it. The telemarketing companies, I agree, are fucking dumb.
Why is this news? This is a once a year payment, is it not? Even with a part time job averaging less than 15 hours a week I could afford a domain for myself. Unless you're buying thousands or millions of domains, this isn't really going to affect you...
Won't even load in firefox, and in IE it continues to insist that I don't have flash installed when I've clearly run the installer that they themselves redirected me to. I'll stick with my TPB'ed free Photoshop. Runs faster anyway.
Whooooosh.
Bit drafty in here isn't it?