Except for the law actually states a cop CAN ask for proof of citizenship WITHOUT a warrant. All they need is suspicion, which can then lead to probable cause, which is the part of the law they try to justify the search in the first place.
Or you just drive to Texas (or maybe New Mexico, but I don't live there, so I don't know) and get a Texas license. Tell the AZ cop you have a Texas license so you MUST be a legal citizen, right? RIght?? (hint: you don't have to be a legal citizen in TX to get a license).
And if we had a big problem with literally tens of millions of Canadians sneaking into this country by illegally crossing its borders, then maybe I'd see your point.
There fixed that for you. I kept the hyperbole of "literally tens of millions" because it is no less inaccurate than your claim.
You should slap yourself every time a real citizen gets stopped and detained until they can produce proof they are citizens. See, a REAL citizen that looks Mexican get's stopped and is required to produce paperwork. Violations of the 4th and 14th amendments have just occurred, even though you (erroneously) think that the Constitution only extends to US Citizens.
Yes, "obvious illegals"...right. Sadly, I have a friend who works for the US Border Patrol who shares this same simplistic view. He said he saw a group of "obvious illegals" the other day on the way to work...I live in Texas. You can't tell obvious from not so obvious. Also, Canadians who overstay their visas are very difficult to spot.
You know, if I were a cop and I knew you, I'd wait for you to leave your car with your wallet sitting on the passenger seat, then I'd arrest your ass for not being able to prove your citizenship. Maybe then you'd see the fundamental flaw in this law and your overly simplistic "that's just common sense" rationale.
The law may not be "intended" to target civilians, but it allows for that to happen, which is why in a couple of months from now, we will be talking about how the law was struck down on constitutionality grounds.
1. Citizens are not required to have a driver's license, unless they plan on operating a vehicle.
2. Citizens are not required to have ANY identification.
3. See #2
4. See #3, #2
The point is that, while I have no problem requiring immigrants to provide proof of immigration status, it is unconstitutional to require citizens (4th and 14th amendments) to carry any sort of identification for identifying citizenship.
I'm an Instructional Designer trained in AS3.0. I sort of straddle both the design world and the code world, which is to say I suck at both. However, I find AS3 to be too confusing for average folks and too simple for "real" software developers, leaving it a niche product for people like myself and other aspiring types (hey look, I made my web page on one giant Flash stage!)
Flash is the standard authoring tool for Interactive Multimedia Instruction (IMI) as well. There really is no competition, other than Rapid E-learning solutions like Captivate (surprise, Flash based) and others that are a combination of PowerPoint and Flash. There really is no getting around Flash for these sort of applications.
...as sales tank now that over half the install base can't get the new version of CS without buying a new computer.
Adobe let's you switch your license from OSX to Windows very easily and very cheap (something like $20 processing fee).
I can't believe one of the main argument against Macs for the past two decades (I've got too much money invested in Windows software) is now being used against Windows OSes.
Well, I expected as much when I signed up. I'm not an idealist, so I was pretty sure Facebook is doing something with my info to make enough money to stay in business.
No, it's not unreasonable, because they told me last week they were going to dump all my info on the sidewalk, but they also told me how to NOT let them dump all my info on the sidewalk. I simply read the notice, then made the security setting changes that suit me. I suggest everyone else worried about it should do the same.
They are not guilty of not notifying anyone. I got a big dialog the first time I logged in after they changed the policy. I couldn't do anything on Facebook until I acknowledged the new terms.
It's not because they are minors, it's because they are going to school. In loco parentis is the reason, not their age.
Except for the law actually states a cop CAN ask for proof of citizenship WITHOUT a warrant. All they need is suspicion, which can then lead to probable cause, which is the part of the law they try to justify the search in the first place.
FUD is a business/marketing term. Stop using it incorrectly, slashdot people.
The residents of Arizona overwhelmingly support it
.
Good thing we don't live in a democracy. Populism sucks because most people are stupid.
Or you just drive to Texas (or maybe New Mexico, but I don't live there, so I don't know) and get a Texas license. Tell the AZ cop you have a Texas license so you MUST be a legal citizen, right? RIght?? (hint: you don't have to be a legal citizen in TX to get a license).
And if we had a big problem with literally tens of millions of Canadians sneaking into this country by illegally crossing its borders, then maybe I'd see your point.
There fixed that for you. I kept the hyperbole of "literally tens of millions" because it is no less inaccurate than your claim.
I'm not aware of any such state.
That's because it's not true. No State can legally require a citizen to carry government-issued photo ID.
You should slap yourself every time a real citizen gets stopped and detained until they can produce proof they are citizens. See, a REAL citizen that looks Mexican get's stopped and is required to produce paperwork. Violations of the 4th and 14th amendments have just occurred, even though you (erroneously) think that the Constitution only extends to US Citizens.
Wait, what???? Minors aren't afforded full constitutional rights? Long history of case law supporting this?? CITATION PLEASE!
Minors who are citizens, are citizens, period. Nothing in the Constitution gives minors less protection than the rest of us.
Yes, "obvious illegals"...right. Sadly, I have a friend who works for the US Border Patrol who shares this same simplistic view. He said he saw a group of "obvious illegals" the other day on the way to work...I live in Texas. You can't tell obvious from not so obvious. Also, Canadians who overstay their visas are very difficult to spot.
You know, if I were a cop and I knew you, I'd wait for you to leave your car with your wallet sitting on the passenger seat, then I'd arrest your ass for not being able to prove your citizenship. Maybe then you'd see the fundamental flaw in this law and your overly simplistic "that's just common sense" rationale.
The law may not be "intended" to target civilians, but it allows for that to happen, which is why in a couple of months from now, we will be talking about how the law was struck down on constitutionality grounds.
1. Citizens are not required to have a driver's license, unless they plan on operating a vehicle.
2. Citizens are not required to have ANY identification.
3. See #2
4. See #3, #2
The point is that, while I have no problem requiring immigrants to provide proof of immigration status, it is unconstitutional to require citizens (4th and 14th amendments) to carry any sort of identification for identifying citizenship.
And what is the economic gain in Afghanistan?
I don't think we're talking about Boot Camp (or maybe we are and I missed something).
What he's saying is that if Adobe only makes a PC and a Linux version, they'd be leaving out half of the installed base (Mac users).
However, it's easy to call Adobe and cancel the Mac license in favor of a Windows license.
I'm an Instructional Designer trained in AS3.0. I sort of straddle both the design world and the code world, which is to say I suck at both. However, I find AS3 to be too confusing for average folks and too simple for "real" software developers, leaving it a niche product for people like myself and other aspiring types (hey look, I made my web page on one giant Flash stage!)
Basically what Jobs says is: dont use things which dont work well, even if you kill off some things which work.
Its the counterexample off microsoft: Never kill things which work, even if some things dont work right.
You've just described the American political paradigm of progressive versus conservative quite nicely!
Not everything can be done without using Flash--things like when the customer requires the authoring tool to be Flash, for example.
The only thing your post has going for it is nice broad brush strokes.
Flash is the standard authoring tool for Interactive Multimedia Instruction (IMI) as well. There really is no competition, other than Rapid E-learning solutions like Captivate (surprise, Flash based) and others that are a combination of PowerPoint and Flash. There really is no getting around Flash for these sort of applications.
...as sales tank now that over half the install base can't get the new version of CS without buying a new computer.
Adobe let's you switch your license from OSX to Windows very easily and very cheap (something like $20 processing fee).
I can't believe one of the main argument against Macs for the past two decades (I've got too much money invested in Windows software) is now being used against Windows OSes.
Actually I didn't opt out. Notice I said I selected the settings that suited me.
How many accident investigations come back as "pilot error" or "human error"? How many of those are due to "pilot distraction"?
I think once you think of it that way, you'd take back the whole, I've-yet-to-hear-about-anybody-dying-from-pilot-distraction thing.
Well, I expected as much when I signed up. I'm not an idealist, so I was pretty sure Facebook is doing something with my info to make enough money to stay in business.
Nope. I got a dialog a few days ago, telling me what they were doing and how to circumvent it.
No, it's not unreasonable, because they told me last week they were going to dump all my info on the sidewalk, but they also told me how to NOT let them dump all my info on the sidewalk. I simply read the notice, then made the security setting changes that suit me. I suggest everyone else worried about it should do the same.
They are not guilty of not notifying anyone. I got a big dialog the first time I logged in after they changed the policy. I couldn't do anything on Facebook until I acknowledged the new terms.