I think the middle ground of checking for updates automatically but prompting if its ok to install them is a good middle ground. Maybe with a checkbox in the dialog for "Install updates automatically in the future"
People should know that there is a new version, but updating their software wihtout so much as an OK might not be necessary.
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I believe Adobe will screw it up, but Apple doesn't want to wait for that, they are trying to build a whole new market in a fairly short amount of time and they are specifically running away from the commodity hardware that is currently hurting PC manufacturers margins.
More competitive? My Ex wife got a huge raise getting out of government contracting. Not only that she finally got the promotion she had deserved for years.
Govt contracting jobs can be pretty cushy, but the private sector does very well on the compensation side of things.
People really don't understand what this is about.
Sure the crashing is an issue and flash does suck and sure the gesture support thing is a bit of a problem.
But this isn't really about flash. Apple wants applications to be developed for the iPhone, not for the lowest common denominator. If flash (or any technology) is available on all phones then everyone and their brother will release apps using that technology and the phone becomes a commodity. New applications don't use the cool new hardware feature that Apple put in because flash doesn't support it yet (and may never or at least not until its on every phone). Suddenly there is no way to differentiate your product.
Sure, right now you can write an app for the iPhone and port it to Android but you end up with, optimally, 2 applications that are both optimized for their particular application. When you have something in the middle you don't get that. Java was like this for the longest time. Apps were optimized for windows and sucked on the Mac. Its possible to make a good java based UI app on more than one platform but its difficult and developers are lazy.
This is why apple doesn't want flash on the iPhone or even apps that are compiled from flash. The fact that Adobe is likely to make these things worse by not fully supporting the iPhone or by not keeping up with new features makes it worse.
Better comparison for TVs. Digital vs Analog tuners. Analog tuners were forced out we would still be on Analog without a hard break. There is no regulatory body that can set a date by which flash must die so its up to the industry to do it.
heck, consuming drugs isn't even illegal, only possessing them.
Its tricky to get high without actually possessing the drugs at some point, but you cant get busted for possession for being high (though you can get busted for, say, public intoxication).
It's a good, if expensive, compromise between power and portability. I have one and I more often use it for surfing the web than for compiling code or editing video, that doesn't mean it was a total waste of money.
On the other hand, I might be better served in the future building a high quality desktop for $600 which would be more powerful than my macbook and buying an iPad, which would be more portable than my macbook. The total cost would be less than what I spent on my 15" macbook pro.
Maybe there is a point to this whole iPad thing. Its very rare that I want to compile code or edit video while also on the road. Some people might have those needs, but I don't and I bet most people don't.
You know, for most of the world, when its time to do "work" we get in our cars, or walk to public transportation and go to these things call "jobs" and at these jobs, our "employers" (as we call them) generally provide us with the equipment necessary to do this "work."
Now certainly, not everyone in the world follows this model, but it is the prevailing model for the much of the first world.
When I am not at my job I don't actually do much of what you would apparently call "work." I might renovate my house or fix up my motorcycle or something like that, but it turns out that when I do those things, my choice of computing devices doesn't really factor into it.
Everyone I know who owns an iPad is an engineer. Several of them write code for a living, all of them are very computer literate.
Now I'm not saying that the iPad isn't good for non technical people, but your assumption about advanced users is incorrect. Admittedly they aren't replacing their primary computer with an iPad but they are using them far more than their primary machines for casual use cases. Just because someone is capable of being a power user does not mean that they wont enjoy sitting back on their couch and using an iPad.
There might even come a day when I will stop buying laptops and actually move back to a desktop for my heavy duty computer and own an iPad for all my portable computing needs.
I know a lot of people talk about an iPad being useless for "real" work. I don't know about you but most of the real work that most people do is at an office on a computer provided by the company that employs them. That might not be the case for you, but it is the case for the majority of the world (even the majority of technical professionals).
Every review of the iPad I have seen was written on the iPad and every reviewer I have read has said that, while not quite as good as a physical keyboard it is quite sufficient for something like writing an article for a magazine or blog. If that's not good enough for sending emails or posting on facebook or slashdot then you aren't doing it right.
I have only had the chance to play with an iPad for a short time. I didn't get to uses the keyboard a ton but I didn't have any trouble with it and I don't believe I would have any trouble typing up an email, or this post right here, on that keyboard.
Many netbooks have rather crappy keyborad's as well that I certainly wouldn't want to use for typing a novel, but you don't see me claiming they are universally bad.
You say the iPad is a toy. I say it is an appliance designed for media (and internet) consumption. Now you might say that such a device is still a toy and you might convince me that your right. But that also means that my new HDTV is really nothing but a toy ( a more expensive, less versatile toy at that!). I might buy that... but then a whole lot of people are buying these toys. Maybe we shouldn't use 'toy' as a pejorative term.
There are some people who buy a netbook and use it as their primary machine. These people will not buy an iPad. But if you were looking at a netbook to supplement your desktop (which I think a lot of people do) then the iPad is a direct competitor because you are buying the netbook for portability and probably mostly media consumption and internet surfing which the iPad is quite good at.
What I was seeing with VLC was that it would actually go full screen on the primary monitor even if the window was on the secondary monitor. I could make the window full screen but then I would have controls on the bottom of the TV.
It could be that they made it play on the primary monitor to get around the bug you were seeing.
VLC on the mac doesn't do this and I find it a bit annoying when I want to show a video on my TV running as a second monitor. To work around it I have to make the TV the primary monitor. Quicktime handles it properly.
Eventually this will annoy me enough that I will consider looking at VLCs source and trying to fix it, though as I understand it the source is extremely complicated and has a high ramp up time (due to it being a streaming server and not just a video player).
Video playback apps should do this by default. It shouldn't be a big deal.
How many websites have closed their doors in preference to an iPhone application?
Unless the iPhone becomes the primary device that most people use to access information on the internet there is really no risk of that ever happening. Meanwhile trying to use the web without Flash is pretty hit or miss.
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its one thing to sneeze, its another to order samples of a disease from a web site and purposefully infect people.
I think the middle ground of checking for updates automatically but prompting if its ok to install them is a good middle ground. Maybe with a checkbox in the dialog for "Install updates automatically in the future"
People should know that there is a new version, but updating their software wihtout so much as an OK might not be necessary.
damn parasites!
And to think, people say the quality of discourse on slashdot has fallen over the years.
Hats off to you Mr. Coward, for showing us all the way.
I believe Adobe will screw it up, but Apple doesn't want to wait for that, they are trying to build a whole new market in a fairly short amount of time and they are specifically running away from the commodity hardware that is currently hurting PC manufacturers margins.
More competitive? My Ex wife got a huge raise getting out of government contracting. Not only that she finally got the promotion she had deserved for years.
Govt contracting jobs can be pretty cushy, but the private sector does very well on the compensation side of things.
People really don't understand what this is about.
Sure the crashing is an issue and flash does suck and sure the gesture support thing is a bit of a problem.
But this isn't really about flash. Apple wants applications to be developed for the iPhone, not for the lowest common denominator. If flash (or any technology) is available on all phones then everyone and their brother will release apps using that technology and the phone becomes a commodity. New applications don't use the cool new hardware feature that Apple put in because flash doesn't support it yet (and may never or at least not until its on every phone). Suddenly there is no way to differentiate your product.
Sure, right now you can write an app for the iPhone and port it to Android but you end up with, optimally, 2 applications that are both optimized for their particular application. When you have something in the middle you don't get that. Java was like this for the longest time. Apps were optimized for windows and sucked on the Mac. Its possible to make a good java based UI app on more than one platform but its difficult and developers are lazy.
This is why apple doesn't want flash on the iPhone or even apps that are compiled from flash. The fact that Adobe is likely to make these things worse by not fully supporting the iPhone or by not keeping up with new features makes it worse.
Better comparison for TVs. Digital vs Analog tuners. Analog tuners were forced out we would still be on Analog without a hard break. There is no regulatory body that can set a date by which flash must die so its up to the industry to do it.
heck, consuming drugs isn't even illegal, only possessing them.
Its tricky to get high without actually possessing the drugs at some point, but you cant get busted for possession for being high (though you can get busted for, say, public intoxication).
especially since the kid claims to have been confronted with the photo.
You could always go public. You might still end up finding another job, but at least it will be more fun :-)
It's a good, if expensive, compromise between power and portability. I have one and I more often use it for surfing the web than for compiling code or editing video, that doesn't mean it was a total waste of money.
On the other hand, I might be better served in the future building a high quality desktop for $600 which would be more powerful than my macbook and buying an iPad, which would be more portable than my macbook. The total cost would be less than what I spent on my 15" macbook pro.
Maybe there is a point to this whole iPad thing. Its very rare that I want to compile code or edit video while also on the road. Some people might have those needs, but I don't and I bet most people don't.
You know, for most of the world, when its time to do "work" we get in our cars, or walk to public transportation and go to these things call "jobs" and at these jobs, our "employers" (as we call them) generally provide us with the equipment necessary to do this "work."
Now certainly, not everyone in the world follows this model, but it is the prevailing model for the much of the first world.
When I am not at my job I don't actually do much of what you would apparently call "work." I might renovate my house or fix up my motorcycle or something like that, but it turns out that when I do those things, my choice of computing devices doesn't really factor into it.
Good news! It does have some version of OS X on it. You should go pick one up.
Oh, well... if we have your assurance then it must be true.
Everyone I know who owns an iPad is an engineer. Several of them write code for a living, all of them are very computer literate.
Now I'm not saying that the iPad isn't good for non technical people, but your assumption about advanced users is incorrect. Admittedly they aren't replacing their primary computer with an iPad but they are using them far more than their primary machines for casual use cases. Just because someone is capable of being a power user does not mean that they wont enjoy sitting back on their couch and using an iPad.
There might even come a day when I will stop buying laptops and actually move back to a desktop for my heavy duty computer and own an iPad for all my portable computing needs.
I know a lot of people talk about an iPad being useless for "real" work. I don't know about you but most of the real work that most people do is at an office on a computer provided by the company that employs them. That might not be the case for you, but it is the case for the majority of the world (even the majority of technical professionals).
Universally known eh?
Every review of the iPad I have seen was written on the iPad and every reviewer I have read has said that, while not quite as good as a physical keyboard it is quite sufficient for something like writing an article for a magazine or blog. If that's not good enough for sending emails or posting on facebook or slashdot then you aren't doing it right.
I have only had the chance to play with an iPad for a short time. I didn't get to uses the keyboard a ton but I didn't have any trouble with it and I don't believe I would have any trouble typing up an email, or this post right here, on that keyboard.
Many netbooks have rather crappy keyborad's as well that I certainly wouldn't want to use for typing a novel, but you don't see me claiming they are universally bad.
You say the iPad is a toy. I say it is an appliance designed for media (and internet) consumption. Now you might say that such a device is still a toy and you might convince me that your right. But that also means that my new HDTV is really nothing but a toy ( a more expensive, less versatile toy at that!). I might buy that... but then a whole lot of people are buying these toys. Maybe we shouldn't use 'toy' as a pejorative term.
the other 56% didn't want a netbook at all. You know, some people don't have a use for a netbook.
There are some people who buy a netbook and use it as their primary machine. These people will not buy an iPad. But if you were looking at a netbook to supplement your desktop (which I think a lot of people do) then the iPad is a direct competitor because you are buying the netbook for portability and probably mostly media consumption and internet surfing which the iPad is quite good at.
Interesting, I wonder what is going on there.
What I was seeing with VLC was that it would actually go full screen on the primary monitor even if the window was on the secondary monitor. I could make the window full screen but then I would have controls on the bottom of the TV.
It could be that they made it play on the primary monitor to get around the bug you were seeing.
I see you've played knifey spoony before...
VLC on the mac doesn't do this and I find it a bit annoying when I want to show a video on my TV running as a second monitor. To work around it I have to make the TV the primary monitor. Quicktime handles it properly.
Eventually this will annoy me enough that I will consider looking at VLCs source and trying to fix it, though as I understand it the source is extremely complicated and has a high ramp up time (due to it being a streaming server and not just a video player).
Video playback apps should do this by default. It shouldn't be a big deal.
If customers want it so much, why are they still buying the iPhone when it is well known that flash doesn't work on the iPhone?
What you want may not be what everyone else wants.
Stop swimming in the bullshit.
How many websites have closed their doors in preference to an iPhone application?
Unless the iPhone becomes the primary device that most people use to access information on the internet there is really no risk of that ever happening. Meanwhile trying to use the web without Flash is pretty hit or miss.