Yes, yes it is. The iPhone is not a global communications network, the iPhone is a device that some people like to use and others don't. The fact that the guy next to you has an iPhone is not hampering your ability to use the internet. Adobe not supporting your platform really does hamper your ability to use the internet.
They are 2 different things, stop acting like they are the same.
The market doesn't get to decide, the developers do.
Developers choose the shortcut more often than not. I have seen it over and over in my professional life (Developing high end, multi-platform commercial applications). The result is often a sub par quality app that runs on more than one platform. They often lack the newest features available on the platform because the person who makes the middle ware hasn't gotten around to supporting them and may never, especially if the feature only exists on one platform.
The end result is, users suffer with apps that are "good enough" instead of apps that are great, and alternatives dont show up because nobody wants to put in the time and energy to make a better app when there is already one that dominates the market. Sure, if the market is big someone will come along and challenge the incumbent, but for smaller markets and more specialized apps they will not.
This is about user experience, which is what Jobs has been all about his entire career. Most people, even here, don't understand what that means or how it works.
Never mind the fact that you don't need an iAnything to use the web or to have a high quality web browsing experience. If you don't have flash though, you are locked out of a lot of content. Flash is impacting the openness of the web; Apple, with their iPhones and iPads does not impact the openness of the web.
Its a clear distinction and an extremely important one.
Really, this is poorly written and poorly argued. He pretty much lost me when his response to the first Jobs quote turned out to be focused solely on the openness of video standards when the quote was just about flash in general and not about video specifically.
There are reasons to disagree with steve but this guy misses the mark by miles. Also, its pretty clear that Apple's reasons have little to do with video and everything to do with having fully features native apps instead of flash apps dominating their platform. From Apples point of view, this makes a lot of sense. It may not be what some people want, but it makes sense for Apple.
I don't believe there are any restrictions on porting an application, you just cant use something to compile and app from one language (say, flash) to Obj-C and then submit it.
If Microsoft could be sued for including a format then that is a good reason not too. The implication has been that Theora might infringe on some patents. It may, it may not. I don't know and likely nobody here does either.
MS has little to gain by including Theora and could put its self in a bad position down the road, they might even have inside information about companies bringing litigation against Theora.
Now it seems to me that the best course of action would be to make all codecs modular and only ship with H.264 but allow other developers to distribute codecs that could plug in to IE, but that is more work and I'm not sure how much they have to gain. Its not like they cant add that in later.
It sounded to me like they were accounts with limited access to the network, only some routers and swiches rather than all. But that could just be how its coming across in the article.
there is a difference between a user and an administrator. If the accounts he set up were limited then maybe he thought Robinson had authorization for those accounts but not for the Admin account.
Of course looking at some of the other stuff in here that did not come out previously, I think he fucked up a lot worse than I had previously believed. The fact that he provided false usernames and passwords was very dumb. He should have simply said that he can't provide them because of the security policy. Starting from a lie put him in a bad light. Quoting policy (even if it was ill defined) might not have gone over well but probably would have gone over better than finding out he lied.
So if Apple embraces an open web, how come I can't run anything but Safari and Opera on the iPhone?
I don't understand this. I mean, I understand why you want to run another browser, but I don't understand how restricting the iPhones browser choices is inconsistent with embracing an open web. He isn't embracing an open phone, but the browser they provide on that phone is standards compliant. Apple has a pretty good history of using open standards and often when they develop a new way of doing things they open it up to others.
Sure, the iPhone is a closed system, but if its standards compliant, especially in the way it deals with the internet, then it supports a standards compliant internet.
Flash is closed, it is not an open standard. If adobe closed up tomorrow the amount of flash that we rely on would become a problem. Right now a fully featured internet experience depends on using a platform that is supported by a single company that produces a non open plug in. If your platform isn't supported by Adobe, or isn't supported well, you are out of luck when it comes to using the internet. If your platform isn't well supported by Apple that doesn't make nearly as big of a difference when it comes to your internet experience (though quicktime can be an issue, at least there are tons of other options for streaming video).
I suspect its more like driving on the Pennsylvania turnpike. One of the first large roads built, its pretty much totally straight. Most highways have some turns in them, a little something to keep you from going totally stir crazy.
When your just driving straight for hours and hours on end its very easy to drift off and loose focus.
When he set up this system he should have had a system or policy in place for passing along the passwords after he left (or was fired) from the job. It sounds more like he setup this network thinking he would be working at this job forever.
What if he had been hit by a bus and died? how can an entire network be managed by only one password that is only in one guys head?
would it really be worse to get the dollar menu stuff, isnt it the same burger and small fries except you can skip the fries or the drink and just get your kid the burger, or the nuggets?
There was this computer you might have heard of, it was called the iMac.
When it came out, USB was around but there were very few peripherals and people were still using floppies rather than CDs for everything.
The use of floppies for software distribution was already on the decline (though in most cases you still needed a rescue floppy for a windows machine) the iMac certainly helped speed that up and showed that a computer could be successful without a floppy (many laptops still came with a drive at that time).
As for USB though, the iMac caused a huge increase in the number of USB peripherals and had a significant impact on the market. You may hate apple but thats no reason to ignore the impact they had on the industry.
After the shitty way that retailers like comp usa treated apple products for so long, I really cant blame apple for being hardassed about retailers and requiring training.
It wasn't that long ago, I'm sure I'm not the only one who remembers it.
Part of the reason there is an apple store is because of the poor treatment Apple got from traditional retailers and for a company that is all about customer experience that is simply unacceptable to them.
"Puff, Puff, Pass" is pretty standard joint smoking lingo where I grew up. I'm not sure you could even call this thinly veiled. Is the pipe made out of multi-colored glass?
I believe this is about buying books in a third world pesthole from the original publisher, but at a much lower cost than what they sell them for in the US and then shipping those books back to the US for sale to customers.
It isn't about illegal copies (black market) it is about buying from one market and shipping to another (gray market).
This still doesn't justify the US paying crazy drug prices to subsidize the price controlled prices in other countries.
Yes, medical research is expensive but that doesn't mean that we should pay for cheep drugs for Canadians. I'm also not totally convinced that applying the same rules here would actually cause the entire biotech industry to grind to a halt. It would certainly have an impact but the idea that drug companies would just close up all R&D forever is not very believable. Eventually they would have nothing left to sell at any price.
Yea, but I've heard of Britta.... just like I've heard of Macafee (especially now!). They may or may not do anything, but at least they are popular and if they were total garbage, or actually bad for you, I would probably have heard of it.
Its when Joe shows up at my house selling Joe's super duper water purifier (It gets the things that Britta misses!) that I start to get really skeptical.
My mechanic I already have a relationship with, he might be screwing me, but I already trust him to at least a certain extent; I let him fix my breaks after all.
I might trust my plumber who I hired to install a hot water heater when he tells me I need some doohickey (technical name) installed but not a guy who shows up at my door, and certainly not some popup from a web site.
Yes, yes it is. The iPhone is not a global communications network, the iPhone is a device that some people like to use and others don't. The fact that the guy next to you has an iPhone is not hampering your ability to use the internet. Adobe not supporting your platform really does hamper your ability to use the internet.
They are 2 different things, stop acting like they are the same.
The market doesn't get to decide, the developers do.
Developers choose the shortcut more often than not. I have seen it over and over in my professional life (Developing high end, multi-platform commercial applications). The result is often a sub par quality app that runs on more than one platform. They often lack the newest features available on the platform because the person who makes the middle ware hasn't gotten around to supporting them and may never, especially if the feature only exists on one platform.
The end result is, users suffer with apps that are "good enough" instead of apps that are great, and alternatives dont show up because nobody wants to put in the time and energy to make a better app when there is already one that dominates the market. Sure, if the market is big someone will come along and challenge the incumbent, but for smaller markets and more specialized apps they will not.
This is about user experience, which is what Jobs has been all about his entire career. Most people, even here, don't understand what that means or how it works.
Never mind the fact that you don't need an iAnything to use the web or to have a high quality web browsing experience. If you don't have flash though, you are locked out of a lot of content. Flash is impacting the openness of the web; Apple, with their iPhones and iPads does not impact the openness of the web.
Its a clear distinction and an extremely important one.
Really, this is poorly written and poorly argued. He pretty much lost me when his response to the first Jobs quote turned out to be focused solely on the openness of video standards when the quote was just about flash in general and not about video specifically.
There are reasons to disagree with steve but this guy misses the mark by miles. Also, its pretty clear that Apple's reasons have little to do with video and everything to do with having fully features native apps instead of flash apps dominating their platform. From Apples point of view, this makes a lot of sense. It may not be what some people want, but it makes sense for Apple.
I don't believe there are any restrictions on porting an application, you just cant use something to compile and app from one language (say, flash) to Obj-C and then submit it.
If Microsoft could be sued for including a format then that is a good reason not too. The implication has been that Theora might infringe on some patents. It may, it may not. I don't know and likely nobody here does either.
MS has little to gain by including Theora and could put its self in a bad position down the road, they might even have inside information about companies bringing litigation against Theora.
Now it seems to me that the best course of action would be to make all codecs modular and only ship with H.264 but allow other developers to distribute codecs that could plug in to IE, but that is more work and I'm not sure how much they have to gain. Its not like they cant add that in later.
It's Apple's fault right?
Right, that wasn't clear at all, sorry.
It sounded to me like they were accounts with limited access to the network, only some routers and swiches rather than all. But that could just be how its coming across in the article.
there is a difference between a user and an administrator. If the accounts he set up were limited then maybe he thought Robinson had authorization for those accounts but not for the Admin account.
Of course looking at some of the other stuff in here that did not come out previously, I think he fucked up a lot worse than I had previously believed. The fact that he provided false usernames and passwords was very dumb. He should have simply said that he can't provide them because of the security policy. Starting from a lie put him in a bad light. Quoting policy (even if it was ill defined) might not have gone over well but probably would have gone over better than finding out he lied.
So if Apple embraces an open web, how come I can't run anything but Safari and Opera on the iPhone?
I don't understand this. I mean, I understand why you want to run another browser, but I don't understand how restricting the iPhones browser choices is inconsistent with embracing an open web. He isn't embracing an open phone, but the browser they provide on that phone is standards compliant. Apple has a pretty good history of using open standards and often when they develop a new way of doing things they open it up to others.
Sure, the iPhone is a closed system, but if its standards compliant, especially in the way it deals with the internet, then it supports a standards compliant internet.
Flash is closed, it is not an open standard. If adobe closed up tomorrow the amount of flash that we rely on would become a problem. Right now a fully featured internet experience depends on using a platform that is supported by a single company that produces a non open plug in. If your platform isn't supported by Adobe, or isn't supported well, you are out of luck when it comes to using the internet. If your platform isn't well supported by Apple that doesn't make nearly as big of a difference when it comes to your internet experience (though quicktime can be an issue, at least there are tons of other options for streaming video).
I suspect its more like driving on the Pennsylvania turnpike. One of the first large roads built, its pretty much totally straight. Most highways have some turns in them, a little something to keep you from going totally stir crazy.
When your just driving straight for hours and hours on end its very easy to drift off and loose focus.
More importantly, have an exit strategy.
When he set up this system he should have had a system or policy in place for passing along the passwords after he left (or was fired) from the job. It sounds more like he setup this network thinking he would be working at this job forever.
What if he had been hit by a bus and died? how can an entire network be managed by only one password that is only in one guys head?
So you are seriously suggesting that Apple and the iMac didn't have a lot to do with the rate of adoption of USB?
yea, that's why USB support in windows at the time was absolute crap and Firewire support was non-existent.
It was the future, as long as MS didn't have to do any actual work.
would it really be worse to get the dollar menu stuff, isnt it the same burger and small fries except you can skip the fries or the drink and just get your kid the burger, or the nuggets?
Its not facebook they hate, its the iPad.
There was this computer you might have heard of, it was called the iMac.
When it came out, USB was around but there were very few peripherals and people were still using floppies rather than CDs for everything.
The use of floppies for software distribution was already on the decline (though in most cases you still needed a rescue floppy for a windows machine) the iMac certainly helped speed that up and showed that a computer could be successful without a floppy (many laptops still came with a drive at that time).
As for USB though, the iMac caused a huge increase in the number of USB peripherals and had a significant impact on the market. You may hate apple but thats no reason to ignore the impact they had on the industry.
After the shitty way that retailers like comp usa treated apple products for so long, I really cant blame apple for being hardassed about retailers and requiring training.
It wasn't that long ago, I'm sure I'm not the only one who remembers it.
Part of the reason there is an apple store is because of the poor treatment Apple got from traditional retailers and for a company that is all about customer experience that is simply unacceptable to them.
Yea well... that's just, like, your opinion... man.
"Puff, Puff, Pass" is pretty standard joint smoking lingo where I grew up. I'm not sure you could even call this thinly veiled. Is the pipe made out of multi-colored glass?
I believe this is about buying books in a third world pesthole from the original publisher, but at a much lower cost than what they sell them for in the US and then shipping those books back to the US for sale to customers.
It isn't about illegal copies (black market) it is about buying from one market and shipping to another (gray market).
This still doesn't justify the US paying crazy drug prices to subsidize the price controlled prices in other countries.
Yes, medical research is expensive but that doesn't mean that we should pay for cheep drugs for Canadians. I'm also not totally convinced that applying the same rules here would actually cause the entire biotech industry to grind to a halt. It would certainly have an impact but the idea that drug companies would just close up all R&D forever is not very believable. Eventually they would have nothing left to sell at any price.
Yea, but I've heard of Britta.... just like I've heard of Macafee (especially now!). They may or may not do anything, but at least they are popular and if they were total garbage, or actually bad for you, I would probably have heard of it.
Its when Joe shows up at my house selling Joe's super duper water purifier (It gets the things that Britta misses!) that I start to get really skeptical.
My mechanic I already have a relationship with, he might be screwing me, but I already trust him to at least a certain extent; I let him fix my breaks after all.
I might trust my plumber who I hired to install a hot water heater when he tells me I need some doohickey (technical name) installed but not a guy who shows up at my door, and certainly not some popup from a web site.
But aren't these fake antivirus apps coming from random popups (mostly on porn sites :-).
I would think a popup ad would make people at least as skeptical as someone coming to their door unsolicited.