Back in the day I used to do larping. I was the leader of my group and for the most part they were just friends of mine. I was one of the natural leaders of the social group anyway so it wasn't that hard to deal with, but one of my friends fathers came to game with us. I was a high school/college student at the time but he was a very intelligent engineer with fantastic reasoning and logic skills and I really looked up to him personally.
His character, however, was that of a basic support healer, not a lot of initiative and very risk adverse. My tendency would have been to go to this guy for advice but instead he would come to me asking if he should use his healing now or save it for later (staying in character). This totally threw me, how could I be in charge of someone like that? how could I be the one making the decisions in the face of someone I would normally deffer to.
So I sucked it up and made the decisions and became a better role player for it.
Im with you here. I'm still young enough to remember how much it would piss me off when adults wouldn't listen to me even when I knew something they didn't.
I used to watch Nova back in early elementary school and my brain would hold onto all sorts of shit from than and from time to time I would spout some of this information back. My parents never took me seriously, they always assumed I was making it up (yea, I'm just making up shit about astrophysics... sure).
Its important not to disregard someone just because of their age.
yea, remember how pissed off Mac users were when Microsoft put out IE for the mac? Everyone was up in arms bitching about how all MS wanted to do was kill off cyberdog.
What, you dont remember that... humm neither do I.
I get where you are coming from, but since we aren't in an actual, guns out, shoot you for looking the wrong way style military dictatorship, I still consider "the people" to be at least somewhat complicit in what is going on in the government.
Not that I see an easy way to change that without a big change to the mentality of the majority.
It has nothing to do with corporations being evil or not. In democracy it is supposed to be rule by the people, for the people. Despite what some may thing, corporations are not people. Government should not be "by the people, for the corporation."
My understanding of the phrase "expectation of privacy" is that it means that any evidence that is collected via your packet sniffer would not be admissible in court unless it was obtained with a warrant. This doesn't make the tool illegal, or likely even illegal to use, just that it would not be admissible evidence.
If my reading of this is correct this is probably a good thing.
they don't seem to be screwing up my enjoyment of my Wii at all.
But yea, I can see where you are coming from. It is a bit surprising that the 360 has many of these limitations. No hard drive, small disks and such, but when it comes to the graphics it was always going to be limited by the 360. There just aren't enough PS3s out there, the Xbox 360 had to be the target platform because it is the one with the most installed consoles. If you want to sell a ton of games, thats the machine you target, at least out of those 2.
clearly I needed a sarcasm tag for this post... nobody reads past the bit you quoted. I don't actually hate apple, or safari, what I hate is that all of this has been passed off as news and that everyone on this site is lapping it up.
As another poseter pointed out, the handling of international character sets is different on windows than on the mac so its not surprising that something works properly in the mac version of safari and not in the windows beta. Obviously apple will need to fix these issues, but its not surprising.
because all browsers behave a bit differently and while you might get away with a bit of idiosyncrasy on a web site you really want to know exactly what your iPhone "application" is going to look and act like. What if IE has a bug with the way it handles something and you code around that bug (possibly without even knowing its IE specific) then you go to release the software for the iPhone and it dosn't work (or doesn't look as good as it should).
Giving web developers on windows a good way to test against safari is a great benefit, but if that was the real reason behind this you would have seen this a long time ago. I believe the iPhone is the primary motivating factor because of the timing of the events.
Regardless of how it was distributed this crap was not news. Its not surprising that there are major flaws in beta software. It is also not surprising that the bugs were fixed. None of this is news, none of it is particularly interesting, its really just something to let geeks get all up in arms and have yet another flame war between the people who hate apple and the people who love apple.
Folks talk a lot about how certain tech journalists post ill informed garbage because it gets people all rilled up and increase page views. I submit that slashdot has fallen into this same trap. Posting this kind of thing because its likely to get a bunch of people to go back and forth and generate a ton of ad revenue. They do this with apple, they do it with microsoft they do it with whatever topic they can that will get people to argue foolishly.
Usually, when a tech jouralist does this, people suggest you simply stop reading them. Is it time for people to give slashdot the same treatment? I hope not. As you can see from my UID I have been here quite some time. This site hasn't always been like this (flame wars sure, but I didn't feel like the editors were actually trying to cultivate them). I, for one, would like to see this get better, but I don't hold out too much hope.
There is little evidence that apple actually cares to compete in the browser space. If window Safari is really only out there for iPhone developers then its not really even necessary to fix security holes (of course that would be bad because some people would use it as a general purpose browser, but you get my point).
All they really have to do is keep it compatible with the version on the iPhone and it will suit their needs. Hopefully they will make it at least as good as safari on the mac, which is not necessarily good enough to compete with Firefox on windows, but choice is still good.
So as I understand it the RIAA and MPAA have been using independent contractors to find people sharing files. Couldnt you accuse such a contractor of breaking into your computer illegally? I mean sure, they probably didn't but you can still make the accusation and go through discovery and require these contractors to store the contents of their RAM for the rest of time.
maybe he put them in his public directory just so he could listen to them on a library computer or to download the files to another machine at a later date. Ive done this with my web account and large files from work to home. Just because they were in a public folder doesn't mean that anybody would have the slightest clue where to look for the files.
similarly compare this case with the guy who used a coffeshops WiFi from the street and was arrested for it. The shop owner is not required to lock down his Wifi in any way at all or even put something in the name of the network indicating that it is for customers only.
So a Wifi admin is not required to lock down his wireless network but this student is required to lock down sharing on his computer or on his university account.
Seems to me that it should be one or the other. Either the student is innocent and the people who took the files are guilty (which might be considered resaonable) or the poor guy on the street using an open Wifi netowk is innocent.
It has also been theorized that this is a shakedown of Openstep for windows. Even if they have been keeping the windows version of the APIs current with the versions in OS X it hasn't been tested on a large scale. If Safari works properly they can start porting other apps over if they want or market Openstep as a cross platform development environment.
Im still not sure they are really going to do this, but it is a possibility.
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Im totaly hearing that whinny pimply guy from the simpsons.
Back in the day I used to do larping. I was the leader of my group and for the most part they were just friends of mine. I was one of the natural leaders of the social group anyway so it wasn't that hard to deal with, but one of my friends fathers came to game with us. I was a high school/college student at the time but he was a very intelligent engineer with fantastic reasoning and logic skills and I really looked up to him personally.
His character, however, was that of a basic support healer, not a lot of initiative and very risk adverse. My tendency would have been to go to this guy for advice but instead he would come to me asking if he should use his healing now or save it for later (staying in character). This totally threw me, how could I be in charge of someone like that? how could I be the one making the decisions in the face of someone I would normally deffer to.
So I sucked it up and made the decisions and became a better role player for it.
yea, but at least you can lie.
Im with you here. I'm still young enough to remember how much it would piss me off when adults wouldn't listen to me even when I knew something they didn't.
I used to watch Nova back in early elementary school and my brain would hold onto all sorts of shit from than and from time to time I would spout some of this information back. My parents never took me seriously, they always assumed I was making it up (yea, I'm just making up shit about astrophysics... sure).
Its important not to disregard someone just because of their age.
Neat! Thanks for the info.
BLAM!!!
It was adobe who really did all the work getting safari to run in windows
got a link for that? or any indication why adobe would have done that?
Im just curious really
yea, remember how pissed off Mac users were when Microsoft put out IE for the mac? Everyone was up in arms bitching about how all MS wanted to do was kill off cyberdog.
What, you dont remember that... humm neither do I.
Shhhh... be werry werry quiet... im hunting bwowsers
I get where you are coming from, but since we aren't in an actual, guns out, shoot you for looking the wrong way style military dictatorship, I still consider "the people" to be at least somewhat complicit in what is going on in the government.
Not that I see an easy way to change that without a big change to the mentality of the majority.
It has nothing to do with corporations being evil or not. In democracy it is supposed to be rule by the people, for the people. Despite what some may thing, corporations are not people. Government should not be "by the people, for the corporation."
My understanding of the phrase "expectation of privacy" is that it means that any evidence that is collected via your packet sniffer would not be admissible in court unless it was obtained with a warrant. This doesn't make the tool illegal, or likely even illegal to use, just that it would not be admissible evidence.
If my reading of this is correct this is probably a good thing.
they don't seem to be screwing up my enjoyment of my Wii at all.
But yea, I can see where you are coming from. It is a bit surprising that the 360 has many of these limitations. No hard drive, small disks and such, but when it comes to the graphics it was always going to be limited by the 360. There just aren't enough PS3s out there, the Xbox 360 had to be the target platform because it is the one with the most installed consoles. If you want to sell a ton of games, thats the machine you target, at least out of those 2.
I thought that was Steve's job?
clearly I needed a sarcasm tag for this post... nobody reads past the bit you quoted. I don't actually hate apple, or safari, what I hate is that all of this has been passed off as news and that everyone on this site is lapping it up.
As another poseter pointed out, the handling of international character sets is different on windows than on the mac so its not surprising that something works properly in the mac version of safari and not in the windows beta. Obviously apple will need to fix these issues, but its not surprising.
because all browsers behave a bit differently and while you might get away with a bit of idiosyncrasy on a web site you really want to know exactly what your iPhone "application" is going to look and act like. What if IE has a bug with the way it handles something and you code around that bug (possibly without even knowing its IE specific) then you go to release the software for the iPhone and it dosn't work (or doesn't look as good as it should).
Giving web developers on windows a good way to test against safari is a great benefit, but if that was the real reason behind this you would have seen this a long time ago. I believe the iPhone is the primary motivating factor because of the timing of the events.
Flamebait? maybe. But no more so than the slashdot articles themselves.
Regardless of how it was distributed this crap was not news. Its not surprising that there are major flaws in beta software. It is also not surprising that the bugs were fixed. None of this is news, none of it is particularly interesting, its really just something to let geeks get all up in arms and have yet another flame war between the people who hate apple and the people who love apple.
Folks talk a lot about how certain tech journalists post ill informed garbage because it gets people all rilled up and increase page views. I submit that slashdot has fallen into this same trap. Posting this kind of thing because its likely to get a bunch of people to go back and forth and generate a ton of ad revenue. They do this with apple, they do it with microsoft they do it with whatever topic they can that will get people to argue foolishly.
Usually, when a tech jouralist does this, people suggest you simply stop reading them. Is it time for people to give slashdot the same treatment? I hope not. As you can see from my UID I have been here quite some time. This site hasn't always been like this (flame wars sure, but I didn't feel like the editors were actually trying to cultivate them). I, for one, would like to see this get better, but I don't hold out too much hope.
There is little evidence that apple actually cares to compete in the browser space. If window Safari is really only out there for iPhone developers then its not really even necessary to fix security holes (of course that would be bad because some people would use it as a general purpose browser, but you get my point).
All they really have to do is keep it compatible with the version on the iPhone and it will suit their needs. Hopefully they will make it at least as good as safari on the mac, which is not necessarily good enough to compete with Firefox on windows, but choice is still good.
Apple still sucks and I still hate them and safari is terrible and I cant believe they released software with a security hole and so forth....
I cant believe that a bug in Beta software was such big news that the release of an update to that beta is news itself.
So as I understand it the RIAA and MPAA have been using independent contractors to find people sharing files. Couldnt you accuse such a contractor of breaking into your computer illegally? I mean sure, they probably didn't but you can still make the accusation and go through discovery and require these contractors to store the contents of their RAM for the rest of time.
Turn about would be fair play right?
maybe he put them in his public directory just so he could listen to them on a library computer or to download the files to another machine at a later date. Ive done this with my web account and large files from work to home. Just because they were in a public folder doesn't mean that anybody would have the slightest clue where to look for the files.
similarly compare this case with the guy who used a coffeshops WiFi from the street and was arrested for it. The shop owner is not required to lock down his Wifi in any way at all or even put something in the name of the network indicating that it is for customers only.
So a Wifi admin is not required to lock down his wireless network but this student is required to lock down sharing on his computer or on his university account.
Seems to me that it should be one or the other. Either the student is innocent and the people who took the files are guilty (which might be considered resaonable) or the poor guy on the street using an open Wifi netowk is innocent.
It has also been theorized that this is a shakedown of Openstep for windows. Even if they have been keeping the windows version of the APIs current with the versions in OS X it hasn't been tested on a large scale. If Safari works properly they can start porting other apps over if they want or market Openstep as a cross platform development environment.
Im still not sure they are really going to do this, but it is a possibility.