I have 2 kids, both of which goto: bed at 8pm (note: 2yo and 7months) when they get older I'm sure that will get moved to 9pm, than 10pm, and once they are 15ish probably midnight. However, I goto bed at 11pm~1am so I've got plenty of time, however kids have caused sex to dramatically decrease, it's not a question of time but energy.
"The smell of the land" you wouldn't be the first nor the last to say this. It's not weird, esp for those who have worked around farms for a long time. It's the smell of home, something you recognize and have fond memories with. I think a good example is that my fathers house leaks water when it rains (the sump pump doesn't do shit) so the basement constantly has mold, but to be honest, I'm rather fond of the smell of there house because it makes me think of home.
Just fond memories associated with the smell of the land.
The C# libraries for windows mobile development (particularly XNA 4.0) are absolutely wonderful. But C# = Java6 anyone whose developed in both (they both have there differing points, yes, but are essentially the same language) can recognize that.
I've got to admit, they needed a better summary for that than "An array that uses less code to work", because the definition is incredibly specific. They could do a lot of things to get around this easily and is honestly an oversight on Googles part. However, it's not a question of removing but that they have infringed, several times (and on the level of how specific it is, there's no way they will invalidate this), they really should settle up with them. (Unless Oracle is just claiming they are infringing and they did change that part of the compiler).
For the second one, I had to re-read it several times, they made it incredibly verbally complex for no reason... the problem here is this is really broad and c++ in general infringes on it let alone every other compiler in the world. I'm surprised this made it past the initial killings.
Seriously, if you are desperate for said job and have to have it. Give them the account information then a day/week/month later just change it. Reset any privacy settings etc. It really sucks that you would have to do it, and honestly I would only give it up if I was desperate for a job (otherwise I'd just go find another company who doesn't think it's okay to treat there employee's like shit). An employer asking for that information obviously isn't going to be worth working for, by doing this they are saying "we don't give a fuck about employee's". Some of you might be jaded and respond to this by saying "all companies don't care for there employees" however, maybe by luck, most companies I've worked for understood that without (quality) employees they would be fucked.
Java could be good for a front end (esp post 1.6) but with html5 and everything else there really isn't a need for it. Esp with HTML5, flash was honestly worst than applets (by far), but they won the public on front end technology. Every language has it's place...
Higher wind speeds the further off shore they are, so over the long term I'd wager so. And ontop of that couldn't they make them pretty like the old mills of sweden? Wouldn't that be pretty awesome?
I wanted to rate this up but what people in cities like that tend to forget is those not in cities like that. I live in the Kansas City metro and the way things are laid out there is absolutely no way a real bus system would work. Ontop of that there's 1/10th the people but 50x the square mileage. I really wish a real bus system would work though:( I miss living in Boston.
I assume (without reading the article) that they literally wrote out an object that represented itself as a jar/dll like fetching a jar off the internet with wget (but instead of writing it to the HDD, they wrote it to the memory which is essentially how live cd's work for OS's). There's no reason why that wouldn't work in Java, it has a full io structure.
I see you forgot to free your character array containing "Hello World". Oh wait we're talking about Java, well I see you are running on this ultra complex virtual machine thingy.:D
Honestly, I'd go with a small wind and solar power generator with a battery pack. Then you wouldn't have to worry about them becoming dead-in-the-sky (dits).
I really should have put more coherent thought into this response, however it wasn't a troll it was a puking of my brain.
Now, I want to here more about the root kits. It is rather difficult to insert a rootkit into an SELinux system. Either a shell account would be needed, or a method to get around the service audits and denials. For example, Apache under SELinux is denied the ability to open files outside of its assigned subdirectory. Since this priviledge (or lack of) is inherited by the subprocesses, they also cannot access system files. Simply introducing code won't work. You would need to introduce kernel code. A buffer overflow may introduce code into Apache (also difficult, but possible), but that doesn't have the necessary security to broach the kernel.
I'll come back when I'm home to pull up the rootkits, I will not pull up the list while at work. I will first put the ones that are known and are in the rootkit scan application, then I will link to the article about the others (that don't show up on the list in the rootkit scan application, no I don't remember the name off the top of my head).
$ yes QQ.... Un... yes, yes does that -- it's to be used like this:
root$:'(
>)';
Couldn't find command::'( )':
The message depends on your shell. Nothing prevents putting newlines into filenames. Don't do it -- it makes the files difficult to type at the shell.
Ok yeah so my brain puked my usual response when I see that (the sad thing is I cleaned it up from the poor choice of language)... Lucky you, I decided not to put sex output down (which I originally had).
Ok back to the real meat of this instead of criticizing the waste lines that I decided to put in there.
The problem with this is that methods tend to be deleted more than deprecated in a lot of these libraries. The k's and q's (kde/Qt) are a good example of this, or if they deprecated they're functionality still doesn't work. Let's also talk about hard links to certain libraries and WHY they do that (and why you shouldn't do what you just did above). Let's say I download applicationX and applicationX was developed using libraries with good code quality standards around them (aka they deprecate and don't delete), applicationX is critical to my business. I have to have this application because maybe our code depends on it, maybe it's just really good, maybe it's all my people know. Well applicationX hasn't been updated since 2006 and fills niche market, it depends on libX.so.30 while the current version is libX.so.51, libX has had a complete overhaul for performance and awesomeness reasons. However the developers (for performance reasons) have finally after so many years removed the waste methods that my applicationX depends on. Now I'm left with one of two choices, completely rewrite applicationX (because I was lucky it wasn't closed source), statically link it to the lib (which can cause serious issues if libX is a kernel module and they aren't using a static link and they reaching for libX.so.*), or well no that's all I can think of.
I think the best example of this was when I used to use gaim and kde 3.5, I updated kde and gaim (with linking) wouldn't work. I actually have a lot of examples including but not limited to KDE, Gnome, XFCE, Xorg, gaim/pidgin, qbittorrent, libtorrent, libboost, gimp libraries, linux (the kernel module on arch linux here).
Then again, I may very well be jaded from using things like FreeBSD and Arch Linux since 2002 (only recently shifted to arch from fbsd). So maybe that's it.
More details please -- what couldn't find/boot?
This is during bootup of about any *nix *BSD I've used when a hard shutdown had to happen, or if fschk on boot had an e
Stereotypes exist for a reason (because there is a truth to them, to an American a french mans cooking may cause him to be smelly, but not all Frenchmen are smelly, Japan has a high rate of rape, fondling on trains, etc but it's cause by a minority of the population (or so one hopes), and we Americans keep voting for the same two parties that only differ on a few candid social issues yet make us think they are completely different. I'd say that makes us kinda dumb, however, again, not all of us), but his point is a fucking joke. And his point has nothing to do with Stereotypes it has to do with people should do something about there government.
A better response would be look at Syria, people said something about there government and watched their family get raped and murdered along with innocent by-standards. On an unrelated topic, I believe in helping them they are literally begging us to, but they mustn't have much oil because we're not doing shit (unlike Libya, however that took forever to help to). Another good response would be "look at Egypt", they fought for democracy, the military instead of slaughtering them did a coup in the name of the people and now look at where they're at. Woohoo go people, Egypt just got 100x worst and it's now another anti-american state.
I love Google as much as the next/. tard (and hate Apple to boot, I mean comeon, look at the evil deeds of each company and apple has so much more on it.) But Google purposely exploiting a security flaw in Safari is wrong. Plain and simple, however honestly I would like to wager Apple put it there on purpose to see if they could catch Google doing this. The reason I say this is, in chess (and corporate strategy is akin to Chess at times) one might allow themselves to lose a piece (reputation loss for Apple for having a security hole, def no more than a pawn) in exchange to turn the tables or even do substantial damage to ones opponent. We all heard they were doing this with IE before safari and all of a sudden Safari now has this exploit. Millions of users (lets say 10million) + let's say a year @ 16k each = $5,840,000,000. Also, even the slashdot community is turning on Google huge reputation loss.
A pawn for a queen, I'll take that any day. And if Apple did do this on purpose, I'm not saying they are evil, I'm saying they are smart. What I'm hoping is after this incident Google get's back on track to their 'Don't be Evil' motto. Google has been innovative, using there money to constantly make the world a better place, I can't think of the last time Apple did something truly good, but I can talk all day about Foxconn (cheapest vendor) and writing a 1500% markup on there devices with money just sitting in the bank and not really doing anything. When was the last time you heard of Apple Space, Apple with free anything, people are claiming they are contributing to the OS community but it's just ports so products work on there OS. So comparing the two, I always vote Google, even with this one evil truly evil deed. (I also don't think Microsoft was evil for forcing people to have IE, OH GOD NO... Oh wait you have to get Safari on apple, what's with that?). Googles really just a target because they don't pay off the right people it seems, and I really hope they start doing it or they're going to end up sinking the ship. I mean for gods sake Sony put a rootkit and your computer and they didn't get fined $5billion.
I'm sorry, mod parent up, so freaking right not even funny.
Was going to post anon, but to hell with my Karma, if you can't recognize that Microsoft isn't the same company it was 12 years ago you are part of the problem and not part of the solution. Not saying they are the best at anything, that's in the eye of the beholder. I'm just saying that Windows 7 (while needing it's code optimized like KDE4 had) is a far superior OS to Windows XP and Windows XP wasn't a bad platform to start off with. In 1999 (when it was released) it was far superior to linux in many ways and it was far worst in others. Today, the same case applies, however MS is actually now contributing to the OS community, working with the development community (see Kinect, their Sony reaction only lasted a few days).
Want to talk about Security, there are 13 known rootkits for Linux which rootkit (the application that scans for them) can't detect. There are viruses, there are kernel dumps, and worst of all there is LIBHELL, this look familiar?
$ someapp
Someapp can't find libboost.so.14
$ find / -name "libboost.so.*" /usr/lib/libboost.so.15
$ yes QQ
QQ
QQ
QQ
QQ
QQ
^C
$
or my favorite one
Couldn't find/boot perhaps run fschk without -j or -f?
root$ ls/boot
grub boot...
root$:'(
>)';
Couldn't find command::'( )':
So yeah, Linux has it's own stability and security issues, some that make me want to throw myself off a 30floor building sometimes, but I love it too, but I think Microsoft puts out an upstanding product and so does Linux.
I really don't know why I was so verbose, esp with the BS commands.
Sure, what product do you sell? If I'm interested and it's affordable, I will send you a check in the form of purchasing said product. And if a lot of people like your product they will send you a check for receivable goods or services. Those proceeds will then amount up to this thing called "profit", once you have that you can buy new licenses.
While it takes 7 hours to do this, I'm sure you can do other things while this goes on. You don't just have to sit there and wait, you walk off and clean or program or setup another geeky setup. It's up2u, the only thing you need to do is periodically put in a new disc and click a button (heck! you could even walk away for a few hours and MISS a whole disc change over by several hours and your day still isn't ruined!).
Moving to use car work as an analogy due to the fact that it requires constant time, not broken time and you can't do anything else while working on it (typically).
As a "hourly concerned person" I'm sure you don't do your own car repairs. However, are you able to work and get paid during those hours? Do you have work that would pay you to do? If so, by all means use the mechanic! But, if you aren't able to get paid for the time then you are still losing money by paying these other people.
How about as a hobbyist? Do you own a non ubuntu linux box? How many hours did you spend learning the command prompt, how about setting up x.org? Sure once it works and if you don't update it to new libraries, everything works great forever and ever and ever. But once you update to a major revision prepare to spend hours figuring out why it's looking for libboost.so.14 and you have libboost.so.15.
Moving back to my car analogy in case you are a windows or mac user whose smart enough to avoid noticeable viruses, do you like to mod your cars? Do you like putting a turbo on your car? Do you think it's fun? I mean what you might spend thousands of hours rebuilding a classic car from scratch when you could have just bought one for 15k-30k (don't believe me, look for a 1969 Stingray on ebay motors average price is about 30k). But at $25/hour and let's say 3500hours you spent 87500. Hell let's say you were able to get one in great shape buy higher miles for 15k and it only took 1000hours (for an absolute full body restore, engine rebuild etc etc, for a professional mechanic it's going to take between 1 and 3 thousand hours to do this) you still spent 10,000dollars too much.
Let's see, we've covered actual time it takes, true cost loss vs assumed cost loss, hobbyists, what about the myriad of other reasons someone might choose to do this themselves, like weird binding agreements, tos, copyright, digital rights, legal, forced into a service, loss of data at any time, bandwidth costs, the time you have to spend at Walmart (or the mechanics shop, it takes me 30minutes to do my brakes but it takes me 30minutes to drive to and from (plus I have to wastes my wife time to take me home) from the mechanics. Ontop of the 30minutes I wasted of my wifes, ontop of picking my car up later, or wasting another hour just waiting for them to finish it anyways...). The waste of gas, etc, etc, etc, etc.
Don't get me wrong, I think of time in the way of hourly cost, but you have to analyze far more than just that, and what about the other costs associated? And did you really save money? I think another great example would be mowing, I own half an acre, but I pay someone $40/week to mow it for me. Why? I don't have work with my current contract typically on the weekend, and so it's a pure loss of $36/week after gas cost, assuming that 40weeks/year are mowable weeks living in Kansas I lose $1440/year! However, I just HATE mowing with a passion so it's a good enough reason to waste money.
But hey, it's easier to insult than to think clearly, so continue on. I must be new here.
You mean the ports they've made and contributed back so things would work on there specific architecture? The only opensource going on here is source code they have to give back because of licensing agreements. They aren't improving on or making it better, they just need it to work. And in some of there commits they have broken previously working components. Such as bsdmake, on that one I had to go in and essentially rewrite it to make there shit work with it and allow it to work like it's supposed to in the first place.
bps is bits per second Bps is bytes per second, being that there are 8 bits in a byte and it's rated in seconds it would be the "time" category you are talking about.
Something to remember people, *bps and *Bps is akin to teaspoon and tablespoon. The unit's look similar (tsp tbs), however for needing multiple tbs of unobtaniumspice I'd would hope to be directed in tbs and not tsp.
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I have 2 kids, both of which goto: bed at 8pm (note: 2yo and 7months) when they get older I'm sure that will get moved to 9pm, than 10pm, and once they are 15ish probably midnight. However, I goto bed at 11pm~1am so I've got plenty of time, however kids have caused sex to dramatically decrease, it's not a question of time but energy.
"The smell of the land" you wouldn't be the first nor the last to say this. It's not weird, esp for those who have worked around farms for a long time. It's the smell of home, something you recognize and have fond memories with. I think a good example is that my fathers house leaks water when it rains (the sump pump doesn't do shit) so the basement constantly has mold, but to be honest, I'm rather fond of the smell of there house because it makes me think of home.
Just fond memories associated with the smell of the land.
The C# libraries for windows mobile development (particularly XNA 4.0) are absolutely wonderful. But C# = Java6 anyone whose developed in both (they both have there differing points, yes, but are essentially the same language) can recognize that.
I've got to admit, they needed a better summary for that than "An array that uses less code to work", because the definition is incredibly specific. They could do a lot of things to get around this easily and is honestly an oversight on Googles part. However, it's not a question of removing but that they have infringed, several times (and on the level of how specific it is, there's no way they will invalidate this), they really should settle up with them. (Unless Oracle is just claiming they are infringing and they did change that part of the compiler).
For the second one, I had to re-read it several times, they made it incredibly verbally complex for no reason... the problem here is this is really broad and c++ in general infringes on it let alone every other compiler in the world. I'm surprised this made it past the initial killings.
Seriously, if you are desperate for said job and have to have it. Give them the account information then a day/week/month later just change it. Reset any privacy settings etc. It really sucks that you would have to do it, and honestly I would only give it up if I was desperate for a job (otherwise I'd just go find another company who doesn't think it's okay to treat there employee's like shit). An employer asking for that information obviously isn't going to be worth working for, by doing this they are saying "we don't give a fuck about employee's". Some of you might be jaded and respond to this by saying "all companies don't care for there employees" however, maybe by luck, most companies I've worked for understood that without (quality) employees they would be fucked.
If a tree falls in the woods, does it make noise? If a word falls out of a language, does anyone notice? These are the great mysteries of the world!
Java could be good for a front end (esp post 1.6) but with html5 and everything else there really isn't a need for it. Esp with HTML5, flash was honestly worst than applets (by far), but they won the public on front end technology. Every language has it's place...
Once elected they get paid for life with benefits, it's closer to "Think of my bribes!" than "Think of my paycheck!"
Higher wind speeds the further off shore they are, so over the long term I'd wager so. And ontop of that couldn't they make them pretty like the old mills of sweden? Wouldn't that be pretty awesome?
I wanted to rate this up but what people in cities like that tend to forget is those not in cities like that. I live in the Kansas City metro and the way things are laid out there is absolutely no way a real bus system would work. Ontop of that there's 1/10th the people but 50x the square mileage. I really wish a real bus system would work though :( I miss living in Boston.
I assume (without reading the article) that they literally wrote out an object that represented itself as a jar/dll like fetching a jar off the internet with wget (but instead of writing it to the HDD, they wrote it to the memory which is essentially how live cd's work for OS's). There's no reason why that wouldn't work in Java, it has a full io structure.
I see you forgot to free your character array containing "Hello World". Oh wait we're talking about Java, well I see you are running on this ultra complex virtual machine thingy. :D
Forget your ctrl+shift+esc and go for the real killer, windows+r+format C:+enter
Honestly, I'd go with a small wind and solar power generator with a battery pack. Then you wouldn't have to worry about them becoming dead-in-the-sky (dits).
That is true, also I screwed up my multiplier (missed a 0) it's $58billion not $5.8billion.
Now, I want to here more about the root kits. It is rather difficult to insert a rootkit into an SELinux system. Either a shell account would be needed, or a method to get around the service audits and denials. For example, Apache under SELinux is denied the ability to open files outside of its assigned subdirectory. Since this priviledge (or lack of) is inherited by the subprocesses, they also cannot access system files. Simply introducing code won't work. You would need to introduce kernel code. A buffer overflow may introduce code into Apache (also difficult, but possible), but that doesn't have the necessary security to broach the kernel.
I'll come back when I'm home to pull up the rootkits, I will not pull up the list while at work. I will first put the ones that are known and are in the rootkit scan application, then I will link to the article about the others (that don't show up on the list in the rootkit scan application, no I don't remember the name off the top of my head).
$ yes QQ....
Un... yes, yes does that -- it's to be used like this:
root$ :'(
>)';
Couldn't find command: :'( )':
The message depends on your shell. Nothing prevents putting newlines into filenames. Don't do it -- it makes the files difficult to type at the shell.
Ok yeah so my brain puked my usual response when I see that (the sad thing is I cleaned it up from the poor choice of language)... Lucky you, I decided not to put sex output down (which I originally had).
Ok back to the real meat of this instead of criticizing the waste lines that I decided to put in there.
# sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libboost.so.14 /usr/lib/libboost.so.15
# sudo lddconfig
The problem with this is that methods tend to be deleted more than deprecated in a lot of these libraries. The k's and q's (kde/Qt) are a good example of this, or if they deprecated they're functionality still doesn't work. Let's also talk about hard links to certain libraries and WHY they do that (and why you shouldn't do what you just did above). Let's say I download applicationX and applicationX was developed using libraries with good code quality standards around them (aka they deprecate and don't delete), applicationX is critical to my business. I have to have this application because maybe our code depends on it, maybe it's just really good, maybe it's all my people know. Well applicationX hasn't been updated since 2006 and fills niche market, it depends on libX.so.30 while the current version is libX.so.51, libX has had a complete overhaul for performance and awesomeness reasons. However the developers (for performance reasons) have finally after so many years removed the waste methods that my applicationX depends on. Now I'm left with one of two choices, completely rewrite applicationX (because I was lucky it wasn't closed source), statically link it to the lib (which can cause serious issues if libX is a kernel module and they aren't using a static link and they reaching for libX.so.*), or well no that's all I can think of.
I think the best example of this was when I used to use gaim and kde 3.5, I updated kde and gaim (with linking) wouldn't work. I actually have a lot of examples including but not limited to KDE, Gnome, XFCE, Xorg, gaim/pidgin, qbittorrent, libtorrent, libboost, gimp libraries, linux (the kernel module on arch linux here).
Then again, I may very well be jaded from using things like FreeBSD and Arch Linux since 2002 (only recently shifted to arch from fbsd). So maybe that's it.
More details please -- what couldn't find /boot?
This is during bootup of about any *nix *BSD I've used when a hard shutdown had to happen, or if fschk on boot had an e
Stereotypes exist for a reason (because there is a truth to them, to an American a french mans cooking may cause him to be smelly, but not all Frenchmen are smelly, Japan has a high rate of rape, fondling on trains, etc but it's cause by a minority of the population (or so one hopes), and we Americans keep voting for the same two parties that only differ on a few candid social issues yet make us think they are completely different. I'd say that makes us kinda dumb, however, again, not all of us), but his point is a fucking joke. And his point has nothing to do with Stereotypes it has to do with people should do something about there government.
A better response would be look at Syria, people said something about there government and watched their family get raped and murdered along with innocent by-standards. On an unrelated topic, I believe in helping them they are literally begging us to, but they mustn't have much oil because we're not doing shit (unlike Libya, however that took forever to help to). Another good response would be "look at Egypt", they fought for democracy, the military instead of slaughtering them did a coup in the name of the people and now look at where they're at. Woohoo go people, Egypt just got 100x worst and it's now another anti-american state.
I love Google as much as the next /. tard (and hate Apple to boot, I mean comeon, look at the evil deeds of each company and apple has so much more on it.) But Google purposely exploiting a security flaw in Safari is wrong. Plain and simple, however honestly I would like to wager Apple put it there on purpose to see if they could catch Google doing this. The reason I say this is, in chess (and corporate strategy is akin to Chess at times) one might allow themselves to lose a piece (reputation loss for Apple for having a security hole, def no more than a pawn) in exchange to turn the tables or even do substantial damage to ones opponent. We all heard they were doing this with IE before safari and all of a sudden Safari now has this exploit. Millions of users (lets say 10million) + let's say a year @ 16k each = $5,840,000,000. Also, even the slashdot community is turning on Google huge reputation loss.
A pawn for a queen, I'll take that any day. And if Apple did do this on purpose, I'm not saying they are evil, I'm saying they are smart. What I'm hoping is after this incident Google get's back on track to their 'Don't be Evil' motto. Google has been innovative, using there money to constantly make the world a better place, I can't think of the last time Apple did something truly good, but I can talk all day about Foxconn (cheapest vendor) and writing a 1500% markup on there devices with money just sitting in the bank and not really doing anything. When was the last time you heard of Apple Space, Apple with free anything, people are claiming they are contributing to the OS community but it's just ports so products work on there OS. So comparing the two, I always vote Google, even with this one evil truly evil deed. (I also don't think Microsoft was evil for forcing people to have IE, OH GOD NO... Oh wait you have to get Safari on apple, what's with that?). Googles really just a target because they don't pay off the right people it seems, and I really hope they start doing it or they're going to end up sinking the ship. I mean for gods sake Sony put a rootkit and your computer and they didn't get fined $5billion.
I'm sorry, mod parent up, so freaking right not even funny.
Was going to post anon, but to hell with my Karma, if you can't recognize that Microsoft isn't the same company it was 12 years ago you are part of the problem and not part of the solution. Not saying they are the best at anything, that's in the eye of the beholder. I'm just saying that Windows 7 (while needing it's code optimized like KDE4 had) is a far superior OS to Windows XP and Windows XP wasn't a bad platform to start off with. In 1999 (when it was released) it was far superior to linux in many ways and it was far worst in others. Today, the same case applies, however MS is actually now contributing to the OS community, working with the development community (see Kinect, their Sony reaction only lasted a few days).
Want to talk about Security, there are 13 known rootkits for Linux which rootkit (the application that scans for them) can't detect. There are viruses, there are kernel dumps, and worst of all there is LIBHELL, this look familiar?
/usr/lib/libboost.so.15
/boot perhaps run fschk without -j or -f? /boot ... :'( :'( )':
$ someapp
Someapp can't find libboost.so.14
$ find / -name "libboost.so.*"
$ yes QQ
QQ
QQ
QQ
QQ
QQ
^C
$
or my favorite one
Couldn't find
root$ ls
grub boot
root$
>)';
Couldn't find command:
So yeah, Linux has it's own stability and security issues, some that make me want to throw myself off a 30floor building sometimes, but I love it too, but I think Microsoft puts out an upstanding product and so does Linux.
I really don't know why I was so verbose, esp with the BS commands.
Sure, what product do you sell? If I'm interested and it's affordable, I will send you a check in the form of purchasing said product. And if a lot of people like your product they will send you a check for receivable goods or services. Those proceeds will then amount up to this thing called "profit", once you have that you can buy new licenses.
Ack, that last part (the insult) was my bad. In retrospect I'm not sure how I managed you response as insulting, sincerely sorry about that comment. :|
While it takes 7 hours to do this, I'm sure you can do other things while this goes on. You don't just have to sit there and wait, you walk off and clean or program or setup another geeky setup. It's up2u, the only thing you need to do is periodically put in a new disc and click a button (heck! you could even walk away for a few hours and MISS a whole disc change over by several hours and your day still isn't ruined!).
Moving to use car work as an analogy due to the fact that it requires constant time, not broken time and you can't do anything else while working on it (typically).
As a "hourly concerned person" I'm sure you don't do your own car repairs. However, are you able to work and get paid during those hours? Do you have work that would pay you to do? If so, by all means use the mechanic! But, if you aren't able to get paid for the time then you are still losing money by paying these other people.
How about as a hobbyist? Do you own a non ubuntu linux box? How many hours did you spend learning the command prompt, how about setting up x.org? Sure once it works and if you don't update it to new libraries, everything works great forever and ever and ever. But once you update to a major revision prepare to spend hours figuring out why it's looking for libboost.so.14 and you have libboost.so.15.
Moving back to my car analogy in case you are a windows or mac user whose smart enough to avoid noticeable viruses, do you like to mod your cars? Do you like putting a turbo on your car? Do you think it's fun? I mean what you might spend thousands of hours rebuilding a classic car from scratch when you could have just bought one for 15k-30k (don't believe me, look for a 1969 Stingray on ebay motors average price is about 30k). But at $25/hour and let's say 3500hours you spent 87500. Hell let's say you were able to get one in great shape buy higher miles for 15k and it only took 1000hours (for an absolute full body restore, engine rebuild etc etc, for a professional mechanic it's going to take between 1 and 3 thousand hours to do this) you still spent 10,000dollars too much.
Let's see, we've covered actual time it takes, true cost loss vs assumed cost loss, hobbyists, what about the myriad of other reasons someone might choose to do this themselves, like weird binding agreements, tos, copyright, digital rights, legal, forced into a service, loss of data at any time, bandwidth costs, the time you have to spend at Walmart (or the mechanics shop, it takes me 30minutes to do my brakes but it takes me 30minutes to drive to and from (plus I have to wastes my wife time to take me home) from the mechanics. Ontop of the 30minutes I wasted of my wifes, ontop of picking my car up later, or wasting another hour just waiting for them to finish it anyways...). The waste of gas, etc, etc, etc, etc.
Don't get me wrong, I think of time in the way of hourly cost, but you have to analyze far more than just that, and what about the other costs associated? And did you really save money? I think another great example would be mowing, I own half an acre, but I pay someone $40/week to mow it for me. Why? I don't have work with my current contract typically on the weekend, and so it's a pure loss of $36/week after gas cost, assuming that 40weeks/year are mowable weeks living in Kansas I lose $1440/year! However, I just HATE mowing with a passion so it's a good enough reason to waste money.
But hey, it's easier to insult than to think clearly, so continue on. I must be new here.
Ack! I missed the over 10 years, I just saw the mentions to 500B. Sorry about that :|
You mean the ports they've made and contributed back so things would work on there specific architecture? The only opensource going on here is source code they have to give back because of licensing agreements. They aren't improving on or making it better, they just need it to work. And in some of there commits they have broken previously working components. Such as bsdmake, on that one I had to go in and essentially rewrite it to make there shit work with it and allow it to work like it's supposed to in the first place.
bps is bits per second Bps is bytes per second, being that there are 8 bits in a byte and it's rated in seconds it would be the "time" category you are talking about. Something to remember people, *bps and *Bps is akin to teaspoon and tablespoon. The unit's look similar (tsp tbs), however for needing multiple tbs of unobtaniumspice I'd would hope to be directed in tbs and not tsp.