By not using thier servers you are helping them. They already have the money from the companies that make the programs that acess the database. Now you are not sucking up thier expensive bandwidth by using it. By boycotting the database you are helping them make even more money. =\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\ =\=\=\=\
How is a random locker search a violation of rights? The lockers are the school's property, hey can look in them any time they want. It's the same way that any company that uses computers can go looking through the hard drives of thier computers. =\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\ =\=\=\=\=\=\
What exactly did the bugged perl script have to do with them getting suspended? They were suspended for the website that degraded the school, not for the bad code that they wrote. =\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\ =\=\=\=\
This was probably a mistake by the reporter who misquoted him. It's hard for me to believe that he got something like that wrong. =\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\ =\=\=\=\
You have to remember that behind these bif corporations are people too, millions of them. If you say laws are for the people, by the people, you also have to include these people too. I'm not saying that they are right to want to controll every aspect of everything. =\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\= \=\=\=\=\=\=\
A hard drive is a major component of the computer. It's something where the brand name usualy means a lot because you want someone known for thier quality. If a new drive maker pops up there is no way to tell the quality of thier drives. If they are truly small and there to fill a niche market then they may not get the amount of money they need to assure a quality product. If Seagate, Western Digital, and the other big Drive companies include copy protection in thier drives it won't be long before software starts using it. Big companies love to sneak stuff like this in without most people relizing it, and once they relize it it's too late, it's now a standard. =\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\= \=\=\=\=\=\
People who don't know about the copy protection, or people who don't care. These people include:
People who use AOL People like my mom (even though I'll try to explain it to her) "Normal" people AKA non-geeks
The only people who will refuse to buy this stuff will be us geeks. And face it, the big companies don't care about us because there are not enough of us to make a difference. We will refuse to buy, the standards wil change, then we will be forced to buy. It doesn't matter to these companies that %5 of people won't buy thier stuff when %95 will buy it anyway. =\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\= \=\=\=\=\
I doubt the closed caption signal takes up THAT much bandwidth. it's jsut plaintext and position data, I'm sure there is rom somewehre to squish it in. =\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\= \=\=\
Third, Microsoft knows full well that the popularity of Windows stems very largely from the massive buzz that was created by several years worth of unimpeded free-for-all copying of both the O/S and its applications. The official face of Microsoft may protest about "piracy", but unofficially they must know that in reality unconstrained access is an extremely powerful popularizing mechanism, vastly cheaper yet more effective than advertising.
I never thought of it that way, but it's deffinitly true. Microsoft seemed to make windows very easy to copy while at the same time adding just enough "protection" to make it look like they dissaprove. They stomp on the people who sell the copies by the thousands, but generally leave the little guy alone. They could easily require that the CD key be recorded in a databse over the net and find out who is using illegal copies. I never quite made the connection that pirating was actually GOOD for microsoft. =\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\ =\=\=\=\=\=\
They next plan to insert a chip between the ear and the brain when kids are born that decrypts the audio signal. That way the sound waves CAN be encrypted. Each chip will contain a serial number that is used to decrypt the sound. When you buy music you will register your serial number and a custom CD will be generated for you that can only be decrypted by your chip. They keys will also expire after a set period of time so that you need to reliscence your copy of the music. This will also have the added effect of maing sure that when you are with a group of friend that only you can hear the decrypted audio stream. Ack, sometimes I scare myself
3) MS was trying to make it so that ISPs would have you install MS software. AT&T was the worst example of this: at one time, you couldn't sign up w/o installing IE and Outlook -- even on a Mac.
I use Verizon DSL right now, the installation program that this come with will not allow you to sign up for an account without using Netscape. Netscape, being the *nice* browser that it is decided that I would like my homepage changed to the netscape start page, and that I would like all internet related activities to go through it.
Isn't this the same thing that you are accusing microsoft of? Ohh yeah, I didn't get one dialog box asking me if I wanted any of this changed for me. and all I really wanted to do was sign up for DSL service. =\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\ =\=\=\=\=\
The user can chose what file format to store the file as, it's simple, you just pull down the little arrow in the save dialog and choose a different format. Microsoft isn't forcing everyone to use the format, it jsut happens to be the default format. =\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\= \=\=\=\=\
What if you are telling other kids about the website AT school? If I'm sitting in teh computer lab and tell a bunch f kids the url and they go to it, isn't that distributing the website at school? =\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\= \=\=\=\=\
reading this kinda put an interesting idea into my head. Sound ads on teh internet, this could be very annoying, but it is interesting. immagine going to see a website and a small ad loads in the background and plays after the site loads, kinda like a commercial on the radio. =\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\ =\=\=\=\
The problem with this is that in order to target these ads they need to have personal information. And everyone here knows that any web sites that collect personal information are evil and are invading your privacy. If you want personalized ads then you ahve to give up some degree privacy. =\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\ =\=\=\=\=\
Heaven forbid a company shuts someone down for doing something that violates an agreement that the vilators signed. They opperated a server off a DSL line when they clearly agreed not to. It just so happened that they were running a server that wasn't in line with thier views. =\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\ =\=\=\=\
If I'm not mistaken it was the PEOPLE who wanted the gun laws. The goverment was heavily lobbied to enact these sorts of laws. The people there relized that they didn't need machine guns, and handgrenades to be safe. =\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\= \=\=\=\
I can see it now. We will start geting CDs in the mail from Microsoft, "New Windows Version 5.0! Amarica's most popular operating system, now with 500 free hours!". It'll be just like AOL all over again. =\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\ =\=\=\=\
problems mentioned by others. Napster cannot use watermarks or music-recognition software because, remember, Napster itself never sees the music file. The music goes straight from my 'puter to yours, without passing through their server, so if I named the file "medieval - king's singers - greensleeves" but it actually plays Jennifer Lopez, how are they supposed to figure that out?
They can build the watermark checking algorithem right into napster.
No, but if they found a beer can in the trash of an underage student with no other way it could ahve gotten there, then that should probably be enough to get a search warrent.
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By not using thier servers you are helping them. They already have the money from the companies that make the programs that acess the database. Now you are not sucking up thier expensive bandwidth by using it. By boycotting the database you are helping them make even more money.\ =\=\=\=\
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How is a random locker search a violation of rights? The lockers are the school's property, hey can look in them any time they want. It's the same way that any company that uses computers can go looking through the hard drives of thier computers.\ =\=\=\=\=\=\
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What exactly did the bugged perl script have to do with them getting suspended? They were suspended for the website that degraded the school, not for the bad code that they wrote.\ =\=\=\=\
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This was probably a mistake by the reporter who misquoted him. It's hard for me to believe that he got something like that wrong.\ =\=\=\=\
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An easy answer to #6 would be "Other cops".\ =\=\=\=\
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easy holes...\ =\
F8 at startup
bootdisk
read bits directly from the HD
need I go on?
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You have to remember that behind these bif corporations are people too, millions of them. If you say laws are for the people, by the people, you also have to include these people too. I'm not saying that they are right to want to controll every aspect of everything.= \=\=\=\=\=\=\
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They wouldn't want you to be recording any of the TV shows now would they?= \=\=\=\
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A hard drive is a major component of the computer. It's something where the brand name usualy means a lot because you want someone known for thier quality. If a new drive maker pops up there is no way to tell the quality of thier drives. If they are truly small and there to fill a niche market then they may not get the amount of money they need to assure a quality product. If Seagate, Western Digital, and the other big Drive companies include copy protection in thier drives it won't be long before software starts using it. Big companies love to sneak stuff like this in without most people relizing it, and once they relize it it's too late, it's now a standard.= \=\=\=\=\=\
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People who don't know about the copy protection, or people who don't care. These people include:= \=\=\=\=\
People who use AOL
People like my mom (even though I'll try to explain it to her)
"Normal" people AKA non-geeks
The only people who will refuse to buy this stuff will be us geeks. And face it, the big companies don't care about us because there are not enough of us to make a difference. We will refuse to buy, the standards wil change, then we will be forced to buy. It doesn't matter to these companies that %5 of people won't buy thier stuff when %95 will buy it anyway.
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It was pretty clear after I read the article, or a few of the comments.= \=\=\=\=\=\
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I doubt the closed caption signal takes up THAT much bandwidth. it's jsut plaintext and position data, I'm sure there is rom somewehre to squish it in.= \=\=\
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They next plan to insert a chip between the ear and the brain when kids are born that decrypts the audio signal. That way the sound waves CAN be encrypted. Each chip will contain a serial number that is used to decrypt the sound. When you buy music you will register your serial number and a custom CD will be generated for you that can only be decrypted by your chip. They keys will also expire after a set period of time so that you need to reliscence your copy of the music. This will also have the added effect of maing sure that when you are with a group of friend that only you can hear the decrypted audio stream.
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Ack, sometimes I scare myself
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Isn't this the same thing that you are accusing microsoft of? Ohh yeah, I didn't get one dialog box asking me if I wanted any of this changed for me. and all I really wanted to do was sign up for DSL service.\ =\=\=\=\=\
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The user can chose what file format to store the file as, it's simple, you just pull down the little arrow in the save dialog and choose a different format. Microsoft isn't forcing everyone to use the format, it jsut happens to be the default format.= \=\=\=\=\
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What if you are telling other kids about the website AT school? If I'm sitting in teh computer lab and tell a bunch f kids the url and they go to it, isn't that distributing the website at school?= \=\=\=\=\
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reading this kinda put an interesting idea into my head. Sound ads on teh internet, this could be very annoying, but it is interesting. immagine going to see a website and a small ad loads in the background and plays after the site loads, kinda like a commercial on the radio.\ =\=\=\=\
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The problem with this is that in order to target these ads they need to have personal information. And everyone here knows that any web sites that collect personal information are evil and are invading your privacy. If you want personalized ads then you ahve to give up some degree privacy.\ =\=\=\=\=\
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Heaven forbid a company shuts someone down for doing something that violates an agreement that the vilators signed. They opperated a server off a DSL line when they clearly agreed not to. It just so happened that they were running a server that wasn't in line with thier views.\ =\=\=\=\
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If I'm not mistaken it was the PEOPLE who wanted the gun laws. The goverment was heavily lobbied to enact these sorts of laws. The people there relized that they didn't need machine guns, and handgrenades to be safe.= \=\=\=\
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I can see it now. We will start geting CDs in the mail from Microsoft, "New Windows Version 5.0! Amarica's most popular operating system, now with 500 free hours!". It'll be just like AOL all over again.\ =\=\=\=\
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ping,port-scan,tcp/ip connection, mount
No, but if they found a beer can in the trash of an underage student with no other way it could ahve gotten there, then that should probably be enough to get a search warrent.