Pages and pages of posts on/. saying Apple is "so dumb" for doing this. You would think they would have egg on their face not but.. nahh.. they are "still" right, and man, they are gonna tell us so too, you watch.:-P
> The whole reason there are multiple window managers is because none of them do everything right, and > so you put many of them out there and let people CHOOSE, he could have jsut as easily criticized KDE > for bloat, and Fluxbox for missing features.
Sure, Thats how I look at it. Linus can complain to the highest levels of heaven, I'll still use Gnome. Even advanced non-idiot computer users want simplicity. I prefer Gnome over any other UI. (and ive used pratically everything in the last 20 years.)
BTW Linus? Does this mean you like Vista more so than OS X because OS X is too simple? Thats, the Same type of issue with KDE and Gnome.
uhh, really? What kind of science are you doing? Its ok.. apparently you also don't really understand it.
For the record.. there is no modification. you either prove or disprove it. It is fact or not, you don't slightly alter it to fit. I think your confusing "theory" and the modern "nifty idea"
..And who's law is that? The state of Maine's? or the Feds?
Mane declares they are de-ratifying the constitution and will become independent they thus ignore all the laws of the Feds including that one.. now.. its "possible" that the Federal Government will use force on the state of Maine and its people.. but that wont look very good on TV either.. and may cause even more people to hate the Fed..
Yours is, so long as the 80 year old man has the permission of both the parents and the teen. If its consensual and everyone involved agrees I don't see what business of governments it is.
An appeals court majority opinion found that emailing the photos from one of the kids to the other was a careless act that should, it seems, bring down the full weight of the law. A minority opinion argued that the laws were intended to protect children from exploitative adults, not from other children.
So these kids have to register as sex offenders for the rest of their lives? How does this help them? where will they live? How will they get jobs?
> The government has little business telling you that you cannot have a gun and cannot fire it > without prior approval, but they are entirely within their purpose to require that you justify > the discharge after the fact.
Discharging a gun is not a crime. "Clearly I own this firearm to protect myself FROM the government itself and I was sighting it in by discharging it so I can make sure it is a effective defense."
From reading your post I take it your stance is "Hea, they already track us everywhere.. why not make it even easier for them."
This is it.. REAL ID is the final stone for me, I will NOT comply with it.
I know George Washington would not even recogonise the government he once lead to freedom.. thus I don't dont regoginise my government as such. It has no right over me any more so than any other gang of thugs and criminals.
Who says the states wont break away first? I think its time for the states to say.. "Hea Feds.. ya know.. it was a great 200 years or so.. hella good times and all that.. but ahh.. you guys are acting more and more like North Korea every day and.. umm.. we are gonna go it alone from now on a'right.. Good luck vs Iran with just DC."
I mean.. Microsoft has to attack everyone who puts 1's and 0's in order.. when did they have time to make Vista?
They attack Apple, Google, Adobie, Sun, IBM, HP, Yahoo, Myspace, Real, Firefox, AOL, Open Office, Corel, Sony, Nintendo, RedHat, Novell, Motorola, Nokia, Earthlink, Symantec, Trend Micro, Webroot.. you name it they are after it.
After all the Hype they probbly thought it would be pushed back..:) besides.. like Linux.. Apple never has to write software for it if they dont want to.
Perhaps they think there is not enough user base to worry about at the moment.
Since people don't know about Linux you need to talk in relation to something they do know. So talk about how Linux is better in relation and some of Windows shortcomings.
With technical or logical people I talk about the bass ackwardsness of the a: b: c: d: drive structure as it does not provide information on what the drive actually is or where it is located and mention that its much more logical to have a/interface/drive structure. I talk about how annoying the system is to use, and how much attention it needs to run properly. I also talk about how your windows system performance will degrade as the OS pollutes itself over time but Linux will be exactly the same every time until you make a change on your own.
I reject your "over time" argument. Sine the beginning of time man had rights, they are exactly the same then as they are now. Very basically You have a right to life, you have a right to property and you have a right to liberty. All other rights are pretty much an extension of those. (a right to privacy is a right not to show others your property).
Just because some other people in the form of a society, or a King, or Road Warrior Bandits, or Democratically Elected Government or, who ever else wants to say "You don't have rights" doesn't make your rights vanish. People can even be told *and believe* that they don't have rights but that also does not make them vanish. Your rights are not what 3 people say they are so.. your rights are not what 6.5 billion people say they are. The amount of other people make no difference because they do not have any more rights than you do.
Just because your government makes something illegal doesn't mean you do not have a right. In my opinion there is little our federal government does that IS legal anymore. Government simply can not provide us liberty. It is government that is the essence of evil, tyranny, oppression, and slavery in the entire world and it is government that only has one tool at its command.. force. Government can't convince you that its good to do something, not even with all the experts in the world backing it.. it can only use force in the form of laws, fines, taxes, prison and eventually guns.. they just have no other tool at there command. If you try to say NO to the government, you will eventually have a gun pointed at your head.
The topics you raise basically come down to the question of "Do you own your body and life or not?" I think its quite clear that you do. However, you do not own other peoples body's or lives.
This means you can't rightfully tell someone what they can smoke, eat, drink, or snort for pleasure. Their actions under the influence is another matter.. but in basics I don't have any claim or right to say what you can do to your own mind.
Since I don't own other peoples lives, I don't get to choose who they can and can not spend their life's with. I think the governments involvement in any type marriage between two consenting adults of any sex is obscene and perverse. As you may be aware America didn't always have a marriage permit.. I mean license. We don't need it now. I am also against the creation of laws with the aim to "provide rights" to certain "types" of people. Gay rights, Minority rights, Civil rights, small purple fuzzy animal rights.. I think these terms are redundant and only confuse people on what rights are.
With abortion.. Ya got me.. I am slightly in favor of it.. but I sway in the wind by day to day. Murder or Choice.. I don't really know. I need to have long conversations with sage like folk to make up my mind on this.
This is retarded. Its the CITY and the NEWS that CAUSED the panic. Really what are they going to charge these people with? Falure to file a permit? The fact that you need one at all is absurd in itself. They make it sound like anyone that had anything to do with this "evil scheme" to place.. -gasp- signs.. around town were somehow attempting to cause mass panic and mayham. Nobody even noticed them for weeks! There was something like 500 signs across the country.
They are totally manhandeling these guys on TV, I seen them shoving the one guy down the sidewalk in cuffs phisically forcing them into news reporters.
If I take a shit in a paper bag and put it in a sensitive area, does it have the potential to cause panic? What if the City makes a total fool of themselves and spends half a million of our dollars being idiots?
> People will learn and ask for rights beyond basic foods and sheltering as their income level go up. The American history has shown the > same path. Blacks, Chinese or other minorities did not even have rights to buy lands, let alone political rights. But as the US got > prosper, they also made the claims and got the rights.
Your still thinking that you get your rights from government. "People will ask for rights?" You don't need to "ask" this is the point. If you have to ask permission its not a right. Rights actually come from property.
Example: Hea, Can I have a piece of your pizza? -- Pizza is not your property, you need to ask. Hea, Can I have a piece of my pizza? -- Pizza is yours, you do not need to ask anyone.
> You got the idea. No matter what your rights are philosophically, the actually rights are limited by Chinese or other 3rd world governments > and to less extends by US and other developed government.
You rights are actually never limited or revoked by government. Your rights exist independent of other people, that includes the government. They *can* be infringed upon, but you don't loose them (They are not even all distinctly defined anywhere as far as I know.) Well.. you can loose them.. but only to god or whatever takes them away when you die. (this is the same thing that gave them to you in the first place.)
Example: Your -insert minority group here- government says you can't own land.. do you have a right to property? Yes, and its currently being infringed. Government is taking your property by eminent domain.. do you have a right to property? Yes, and its currently being infringed. You are being robbed by a man at gunpoint.. do you have a right to property? Yes and its currently being infringed.
> Well... other than civil unrest and bloody revolution. How can you get a better government quickly?
Ask the people in the communist Soviet Union. The central government lost the ability to govern states declared their independence and the people realized that it no longer had control over them. By in large they started to ignore the laws. The people enforcing the laws were ignoring the laws. I think he fastest way to a better government is to simply ignore it.
Personally I view this government (USA) for what it is, a group of armed thugs who do practically whatever they want all the time. I follow their rules because I'm afraid of them using force against me, but they do not have any sort of right to rule me. For the most part I live my life the way I want to despite them. I don't really question if things are legal or not.. first there is the question of is it right or wrong, then I decided if I can get away with it without some other people coming after me. (ex boyfriend government, whoever.:p)
You don't have "limited" or "relative" Rights, Your rights exists outside of any form of government. Government can't create new rights or take rights away, they can only infringe upon them. This is all they have the power to do in a philosophical sense.. For example, You have a right to life, even if a state has no law or punishment against murder it is still wrong. Law does not decide the basis of right and wrong.
I think people in China are starting to learn about freedom, as income levels rise so does communication. Perhaps they are learning about freedom.. this is actually not that different than things like YouTube here were we learn about the abuses of power by our own government. The people of China need to get rid of their government, that is the only way they will get all the liberty and freedom that people desire.
As for the OT, I believe its wrong to try to tell people how to do business. If Yahoo or Google want to do this they are free to do so, but it will reflect on them in a negative light and cost them in the end.
> "It's a hoax _ and it's not funny," said Gov. Deval Patrick.
Its not a Hoax at all its a cartoon. A rather funny one that would defiantly make light of all of this I'm sure. Some people up here said we should fine the Adult Swim people.. hell.. why not just shoot them?
> "It's about keeping a city on edge. It's about public safety," he said.
It's about making sure the public is afraid of terrorists all the time. They have to be afraid to they vote away their freedoms. I'm sure OBL is laughing his freaking ass off right now.
You are a fool to trade away you liberty for a house, education, health care and job.. they usta provide that much to slaves. Everyone wants freedom, everyone wants liberty.. don't believe me?..then why did you, and most other Americans move out of their parrents house? Survay says! "Because they want to do their own thing, and have there own stuff" or in other words.. freedom.
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/. saying Apple is "so dumb" for doing this. You would think they would have egg on their face not but.. nahh.. they are "still" right, and man, they are gonna tell us so too, you watch. :-P
Pages and pages of posts on
Gods "revenge on gays" wasn't perfect? Well, that about wraps it up for god.. I'm moving on to studying zebras now.
> The whole reason there are multiple window managers is because none of them do everything right, and
> so you put many of them out there and let people CHOOSE, he could have jsut as easily criticized KDE
> for bloat, and Fluxbox for missing features.
Sure, Thats how I look at it. Linus can complain to the highest levels of heaven, I'll still use Gnome. Even advanced non-idiot computer users want simplicity. I prefer Gnome over any other UI. (and ive used pratically everything in the last 20 years.)
BTW Linus? Does this mean you like Vista more so than OS X because OS X is too simple? Thats, the Same type of issue with KDE and Gnome.
Thats really funny. Mod Up.
To OP - Yeah, Ion engines ammount to about as much thrust as a mouse fart though.
"modifies the theories"
uhh, really? What kind of science are you doing? Its ok.. apparently you also don't really understand it.
For the record.. there is no modification. you either prove or disprove it. It is fact or not, you don't slightly alter it to fit. I think your confusing "theory" and the modern "nifty idea"
Yeah, only being 50% a slave and 25% oppressed is ok right?
Dude.. I criticize the American people for willingly accepting oppression. I dont see much difference between us and them anymore.
I mean China is beating us in oppression..??! We gota' beat those F'in commies! We *need* Real_ID and RFID chips now, today.
(note to mod: This is satire)
..And who's law is that? The state of Maine's? or the Feds?
Mane declares they are de-ratifying the constitution and will become independent they thus ignore all the laws of the Feds including that one.. now.. its "possible" that the Federal Government will use force on the state of Maine and its people.. but that wont look very good on TV either.. and may cause even more people to hate the Fed..
Yours is, so long as the 80 year old man has the permission of both the parents and the teen. If its consensual and everyone involved agrees I don't see what business of governments it is.
An appeals court majority opinion found that emailing the photos from one of the kids to the other was a careless act that should, it seems, bring down the full weight of the law. A minority opinion argued that the laws were intended to protect children from exploitative adults, not from other children.
So these kids have to register as sex offenders for the rest of their lives? How does this help them? where will they live? How will they get jobs?
The Government is ruing their lives.
Cartoon Network stand up to the stupid city of Boston! They are at fault.
> The government has little business telling you that you cannot have a gun and cannot fire it
> without prior approval, but they are entirely within their purpose to require that you justify
> the discharge after the fact.
Discharging a gun is not a crime. "Clearly I own this firearm to protect myself FROM the government itself and I was sighting it in by discharging it so I can make sure it is a effective defense."
From reading your post I take it your stance is "Hea, they already track us everywhere.. why not make it even easier for them."
Hell yes,
This is it.. REAL ID is the final stone for me, I will NOT comply with it.
I know George Washington would not even recogonise the government he once lead to freedom.. thus I don't dont regoginise my government as such. It has no right over me any more so than any other gang of thugs and criminals.
Who says the states wont break away first? I think its time for the states to say.. "Hea Feds.. ya know.. it was a great 200 years or so.. hella good times and all that.. but ahh.. you guys are acting more and more like North Korea every day and.. umm.. we are gonna go it alone from now on a'right.. Good luck vs Iran with just DC."
I mean.. Microsoft has to attack everyone who puts 1's and 0's in order.. when did they have time to make Vista?
They attack Apple, Google, Adobie, Sun, IBM, HP, Yahoo, Myspace, Real, Firefox, AOL, Open Office, Corel, Sony, Nintendo, RedHat, Novell, Motorola, Nokia, Earthlink, Symantec, Trend Micro, Webroot.. you name it they are after it.
Surpised they had time to worry about Vista..
> One of the best ways of getting arrested and released - repeated - is to hang around with drug dealers and users
> when they are dealing and using.
It's also one of the best ways to get shot by the cops.
"Media Companies" will prosecute anyone who they think is using even if they loose because it creates fear.
After all the Hype they probbly thought it would be pushed back.. :) besides.. like Linux.. Apple never has to write software for it if they dont want to.
Perhaps they think there is not enough user base to worry about at the moment.
Yeah, I dont think this is in governments power to fix, its like Can Spam.. all they can do is send more people to jail it wont stop spam.
.. why do we need peoples SSN again?
We need to look to the industry to fix this.. have them design better databases and start asking
Since people don't know about Linux you need to talk in relation to something they do know. So talk about how Linux is better in relation and some of Windows shortcomings.
/interface/drive structure. I talk about how annoying the system is to use, and how much attention it needs to run properly. I also talk about how your windows system performance will degrade as the OS pollutes itself over time but Linux will be exactly the same every time until you make a change on your own.
With technical or logical people I talk about the bass ackwardsness of the a: b: c: d: drive structure as it does not provide information on what the drive actually is or where it is located and mention that its much more logical to have a
I reject your "over time" argument. Sine the beginning of time man had rights, they are exactly the same then as they are now. Very basically You have a right to life, you have a right to property and you have a right to liberty. All other rights are pretty much an extension of those. (a right to privacy is a right not to show others your property).
.. I mean license. We don't need it now. I am also against the creation of laws with the aim to "provide rights" to certain "types" of people. Gay rights, Minority rights, Civil rights, small purple fuzzy animal rights.. I think these terms are redundant and only confuse people on what rights are.
Just because some other people in the form of a society, or a King, or Road Warrior Bandits, or Democratically Elected Government or, who ever else wants to say "You don't have rights" doesn't make your rights vanish. People can even be told *and believe* that they don't have rights but that also does not make them vanish. Your rights are not what 3 people say they are so.. your rights are not what 6.5 billion people say they are. The amount of other people make no difference because they do not have any more rights than you do.
Just because your government makes something illegal doesn't mean you do not have a right. In my opinion there is little our federal government does that IS legal anymore. Government simply can not provide us liberty. It is government that is the essence of evil, tyranny, oppression, and slavery in the entire world and it is government that only has one tool at its command.. force. Government can't convince you that its good to do something, not even with all the experts in the world backing it.. it can only use force in the form of laws, fines, taxes, prison and eventually guns.. they just have no other tool at there command. If you try to say NO to the government, you will eventually have a gun pointed at your head.
The topics you raise basically come down to the question of "Do you own your body and life or not?" I think its quite clear that you do. However, you do not own other peoples body's or lives.
This means you can't rightfully tell someone what they can smoke, eat, drink, or snort for pleasure. Their actions under the influence is another matter.. but in basics I don't have any claim or right to say what you can do to your own mind.
Since I don't own other peoples lives, I don't get to choose who they can and can not spend their life's with. I think the governments involvement in any type marriage between two consenting adults of any sex is obscene and perverse. As you may be aware America didn't always have a marriage permit
With abortion.. Ya got me.. I am slightly in favor of it.. but I sway in the wind by day to day. Murder or Choice.. I don't really know. I need to have long conversations with sage like folk to make up my mind on this.
This is retarded. Its the CITY and the NEWS that CAUSED the panic. Really what are they going to charge these people with? Falure to file a permit? The fact that you need one at all is absurd in itself. They make it sound like anyone that had anything to do with this "evil scheme" to place.. -gasp- signs.. around town were somehow attempting to cause mass panic and mayham. Nobody even noticed them for weeks! There was something like 500 signs across the country.
They are totally manhandeling these guys on TV, I seen them shoving the one guy down the sidewalk in cuffs phisically forcing them into news reporters.
If I take a shit in a paper bag and put it in a sensitive area, does it have the potential to cause panic? What if the City makes a total fool of themselves and spends half a million of our dollars being idiots?
This is so god dammed dumb..
> People will learn and ask for rights beyond basic foods and sheltering as their income level go up. The American history has shown the
:p)
> same path. Blacks, Chinese or other minorities did not even have rights to buy lands, let alone political rights. But as the US got
> prosper, they also made the claims and got the rights.
Your still thinking that you get your rights from government. "People will ask for rights?" You don't need to "ask" this is the point. If you have to ask permission its not a right. Rights actually come from property.
Example:
Hea, Can I have a piece of your pizza? -- Pizza is not your property, you need to ask.
Hea, Can I have a piece of my pizza? -- Pizza is yours, you do not need to ask anyone.
> You got the idea. No matter what your rights are philosophically, the actually rights are limited by Chinese or other 3rd world governments
> and to less extends by US and other developed government.
You rights are actually never limited or revoked by government. Your rights exist independent of other people, that includes the government. They *can* be infringed upon, but you don't loose them (They are not even all distinctly defined anywhere as far as I know.) Well.. you can loose them.. but only to god or whatever takes them away when you die. (this is the same thing that gave them to you in the first place.)
Example:
Your -insert minority group here- government says you can't own land.. do you have a right to property? Yes, and its currently being infringed.
Government is taking your property by eminent domain.. do you have a right to property? Yes, and its currently being infringed.
You are being robbed by a man at gunpoint.. do you have a right to property? Yes and its currently being infringed.
> Well... other than civil unrest and bloody revolution. How can you get a better government quickly?
Ask the people in the communist Soviet Union. The central government lost the ability to govern states declared their independence and the people realized that it no longer had control over them. By in large they started to ignore the laws. The people enforcing the laws were ignoring the laws. I think he fastest way to a better government is to simply ignore it.
Personally I view this government (USA) for what it is, a group of armed thugs who do practically whatever they want all the time. I follow their rules because I'm afraid of them using force against me, but they do not have any sort of right to rule me. For the most part I live my life the way I want to despite them. I don't really question if things are legal or not.. first there is the question of is it right or wrong, then I decided if I can get away with it without some other people coming after me. (ex boyfriend government, whoever.
You don't have "limited" or "relative" Rights, Your rights exists outside of any form of government. Government can't create new rights or take rights away, they can only infringe upon them. This is all they have the power to do in a philosophical sense.. For example, You have a right to life, even if a state has no law or punishment against murder it is still wrong. Law does not decide the basis of right and wrong.
I think people in China are starting to learn about freedom, as income levels rise so does communication. Perhaps they are learning about freedom.. this is actually not that different than things like YouTube here were we learn about the abuses of power by our own government. The people of China need to get rid of their government, that is the only way they will get all the liberty and freedom that people desire.
As for the OT, I believe its wrong to try to tell people how to do business. If Yahoo or Google want to do this they are free to do so, but it will reflect on them in a negative light and cost them in the end.
> "It's a hoax _ and it's not funny," said Gov. Deval Patrick.
Its not a Hoax at all its a cartoon. A rather funny one that would defiantly make light of all of this I'm sure. Some people up here said we should fine the Adult Swim people.. hell.. why not just shoot them?
> "It's about keeping a city on edge. It's about public safety," he said.
It's about making sure the public is afraid of terrorists all the time. They have to be afraid to they vote away their freedoms. I'm sure OBL is laughing his freaking ass off right now.
You are a fool to trade away you liberty for a house, education, health care and job.. they usta provide that much to slaves. Everyone wants freedom, everyone wants liberty.. don't believe me? ..then why did you, and most other Americans move out of their parrents house? Survay says! "Because they want to do their own thing, and have there own stuff" or in other words.. freedom.