Oh yeah, I agree with you. I'm not part of the government, I have no illusion of such a falsity. lol
Even if you were to attempt to get government to pay you (with taxpayer money they stole from other people) you would still loose out because you would have to take time off work and go to deal with them / go to their court. etc..
* A concerned citizen found SSN Numbers in public that the goons government didn't care to protect.
* Government goons ignored her when she brought this to their attention (over several years).
* She then created a website to expose this act of government incompetence to the public. She posted SSN number of people like Colin Powell and Jeb Bush.
* The Government goons intended to crack down on her and make the act of exposing their incompetence illegal. Essentially saying that it was illegal for her to do exactly the same thing they were already doing, and were undoubtedly going to continue to do.
That is insane
No longer is government concerned with addressing problems it has, now it wants to shut people up who air their dirty laundry. This is *exactly* like the MIT Subway hacker case. This lady is a hero, Government MUST be accountable for its actions when they are operating in error.
Ever watch CSPAN? Politicians and bureaucrats are always on their blackberry. They use diffrent methods of sending messages but that *is* a data network that goes over the internet.. how hard would it be to intercept traffic sent from AT&T (the carrier or.. it's Level 3 actually) to Blackberry the (provider) or vice versa using BGP attack?
God knows what you could find out.. who is screwing who, what politicians are on drugs, where the crashed flying saucers are stored.. ???
If someone ever did expose all the lies of government, (and we know they are lying to some degree) and gave the people honesty just for once.. what do you think would happen?
I know *exactly* what you mean. Let me tell you why you're here. You're here because you know something. What you know you can't explain, but you feel it. You've felt it your entire life, that there's something wrong with the world. You don't know what it is, but it's there, like a splinter in your mind, driving you mad. It is this feeling that has brought you to me. Do you know what I'm talking about?
But in a MitM attack.. If the DNS can be intercepted and rerouted to a spoofed site.. or the cert can be intercepted on the fly and regenerated.. why can't the information sent back from the notary also be forged?
Seems like an extra hoop for hackers to jump through but not an impossible one.
Even the way they phrase the eminent domain case. "The City is trying to buy our house." lol.. no they are not buying it, they are taking it at their price and if you refuse they are just going to take it and put you in jail.
What garbage, I hope kids are smarter than that. Unfortunately I have not a lot of faith.
There are variations depending on what game you are playing.. Sometimes a joystick is better, sometimes a mouse is better.. and technically you can use both on both.
All I'm getting at is Console gaming is cheaper in the long run than PC gaming. A good console will last you 3-5 years and play thousands of games. A gamer PC if they wanted to remain current would be at least twice as expensive and would have to be upgraded at least once in 3 years.
The reason they are not more careful with the data is they don't have to be. The government isn't hurt when it looses your data. They aren't even hurt when they loose your money. I forget what State it is now but they had peoples SSN numbers up on one of their web sites plain as day.
Government bureaucrats are NEVER accountable for anything. (even if they did loose 4 million euros) The best you can do is sue the branch of government and then they will pay that with YOUR tax money.
The real solution is to not collect the information in the first place. Yes, I am really implying that government does not need to know who you are and deal in every aspect of your life.. and that would require a lot fewer bureaucrats around too.
Some people fixed that problem.. they sell these things now called consoles that play games. They call them things like Wii, PS3, and Xbox and they play games better than desktop computers.
So try this.. instead of buying that ultra expensive and soon to be obsolete Alienware gamers PC (and a copy of Vista), buy a regular PC with Ubuntu and a PS3. Your life will be happier.
I heard a story of a Martial Arts trainer for police officers who is noticing that police are becoming more and more aggressive.. and he said the reason why is police departments are more stringent on background checks now than ever before. Now anyone with *any* blemish on their record are not allowed to become police officers and what they are getting for recruits are straight edge weaklings who are looking for power to wield over others, or ex-military who have been kicking in doors in Iraq for the past 4 years.
The NSA has to make sure they can turn it on in your pocket and bug you.. you know.. for your safety.. in case Bin Ladden ever got one.. and if you don't like that then you must be hiding something..
I think the entire concept of police is wrong. I think we need peace officers not police officers.
Police's job should be to prevent people from hurting one another period. Maintain the peace long enough for individuals to file suit on one another. I think the war on drugs has gone a long way to militarizing the police and destroying people right to privacy, If you got rid of the vice crimes, I suspect citizens and police would get along a lot better.
Also the people need more power to be able to fire police officers who show a trend of abusing their powers. If they really do work for us.. and I'm skeptical.. I think they work for the state.. but if they work for us then we should be able to fire them, and it shouldn't be very hard to do. If they do serve us and we are there customers then we need some form or recourse, currently we don't really have any. Sites like ratemycop.com should NEVER be shut down.
You can think I'm a troll if you like but I'm dead serious. Free Talk Live (sig) covers nearly all these outrageous police stories everybody hears about in the main stream media, but the one thing that FTL will do is they also follow up on each of these stories long after the mainstream media goes away and forgets about it... and I kid you not.. in over 100 stories that I have heard FTL cover about bad cops.. not one of them ever went to jail, nobody lost their job, nobody was ever fined, or demoted, sometimes the officers who commit the crimes aren't even NAMED. The thin blue line closes ranks around the bad cops immediately and the department goes into cover up / damage control mode.
Thats actually right, police are not your friends, they are not coming to your house for a good reason.. however I have found out that you do not need to open the door for them. If they have a warrant they will just kick it in anyhow. No real good can happen to you by talking to them because they are only going to start looking for things to get you on.
Best advice is to just stay as far away from them as possible.
I don't disagree with this, they should be policed more rigorously than the general public, and they usually are. If a cop comes under investigation for a crime, it is a lot more likely to make it to Court than if it is a private citizen, at least in Canada anyways. The best solution to this problem is to allocate more money to police budget so that you have more people wanting to become police officers (since now you'll have an actual benefit to the amount of work they have to do) and can be pickier with who you choose.
Are you kidding me? You want to pay them MORE?? Are you insane?
Here is what happens.
1. Cops do something terrible. (Tazer a man to death, shoot an unarmed man at point blank range, raid the wrong house and shoot grandma, dump a quadriplegic out of his wheelchair, etc.)
2. The police department starts an official investigation.
3. The officers are suspended with pay. This is in effect a paid vacation.
4. After several months the department concludes that no wrong doing took place.
5. Police officers involved in the incident return to work, and sometimes are even promoted.
I can cite case after case after case of this happening.. search google for "police cleared of wrong doing".. it will make you sick.
But it does raise the question of "Who owns the moon?" It's perfectly fine to say, nobody.. or all people.. or whatever when nobody can get to it.. but a valuable resource that you can get to and use.. I don't expect governments around the world to be ok with "community" ownership for very long.
Initially the wars in space will be pretty cool I think though.. lol
My understanding of this is that this means is you can have fusion without radiation only dealing with heat and actually raw electricity as a by product. So it seems the energy generation is far greater than other forms of fusion.... Or in other words.. Bush is invading the moon for a new kind of "oil".
There are some distinctions between a rental contract and society. A rental contract is an agreement two people enter voluntarily, they create a document detailing what is expected from each other etc.. This is a good thing. Only good results when people voluntarily interact. (granted that interaction is free from force or fraud, but then it wouldn't be voluntary if force or fraud was used.)
However.. rules of "society" are *not* voluntarily and are heavily enforced by the crazed believers of society; enforced with threats, fines, jail, and eventually guns. I think these people are as crazy as religious fanatics of old who would sacrifice people to their god and claim that their way was the only way and if we did not follow the rules some sort of hell would come about.
You said so yourself.. that without the unnatural system of corporations and the practice of creating fictional people to control buisness that society would fall apart.. Do you really think that chaos would result and fire would rain from the sky if fictional people did not operate businesses?
The practice of creating corporations breaks the natural concept and practice of the free market because it absolves people of responsibility, that's all I'm saying.
Read what you wrote! We have *exactly* the world you want! Individuals can and are liable when they "lie or know about important safety information." And what you call the "manufacturer" -- that you say should be protected from liability if consumers understand the risk -- is simply a collective entity with liability rules. And just for fun, in the case of disputes, we'll allow the consumer to sue the entity so as to determine whether it's the "manufacturer" or the management at fault. Congratulations, you have invented the corporation.:D
I'm referring to manufacturer in the same way one would refer to a buisness. I mean the person, or individuals who created the product. Where did I create the fictional legal entity again?
You misunderstand what society is. You seem to think that society is a collective group of individuals, but it's not. Society is the *rules*, the *structure*, by which the individuals function together. Society is as real as the written law books, and as real as social ostracization if certain unwritten rules are broken.
I think I understand the concepts of society.. but then again I think I understand the concepts of Santa Claus too.. neither actually exist.
So.. let me get this straight.. your saying society is words on paper written in some book, correct? You said before that society could not function without corporations, how is it that this book functions, and why would you care if a book or the words in it were malfunctioning?
You think society exists, then prove it. I think its a type of religion created like other religions by people wishing to control other people, but if not, show me a picture of it or something.. because I'll show you a picture of Zeus and Jesus having coffee at Starbucks before you show me a "society". You are using it as a noun right? "The society was hurt by ignoring fictional people called corporations. The society ran across the road." I'm using it correctly right?
Society is a myth, its a fiction. You can refer to it, but its a fabrication created in your mind not dissimilar to how a child would believe in Santa Clause. People are individuals not groups.
It is absolutely more fair than the alternative. Let's say you're the CEO of Ford, and someone has an accident and dies in one of your cars. Should the CEO be brought up on charges of Involuntary Manslaughter? On every single accident? Basically, every company CEO would be *personally* responsible for everything that ever happened in the company, whether they personally designed anything or not. Does that seem fair? You might be thinking, "Good! Then they'll be extra careful!" Except that it's literally impossible for anyone to be perfectly in charge of everything.
Is the CEO liable? Was there a decision made by someone at Ford that lead to the cause of the accident? These are the questions that need to be asked in order to answer. People should be liable for their actions that harm or defraud people. I believe it is perfectly fine to sell someone an unsafe product so long as the buyer understands the risks. Practically, every product sold has a certain level of risk if used in a particular manner. If a buyer accurately understands the risks but decides to uses a product in a unsafe manner then he absolves the manufacturer of any liability. If the CEO or someone else at Ford lied to people or knew about, yet ignored important safety information then yes, that person *not* his "fictional corporation" should be liable.
There is a reason corporations exist. It's because society couldn't function without them.
Society does not exist but people can function just fine without corporations AKA "make believe buisness people".
Fascism is when government controls corporations. Corporatism is when corporations controls government.
The terms business and corporation are not the same either and there is an important distinction you are forgetting.
A corporation is "legal protection" granted by the government to a business. A corporation creates a fictional person existing in the legal world that represents a something that actually exists, that is a business. Government grants this protection to business men so they can operate with immunity. Does this seam fair? You can't create a fictional person and operate with immunity can you? Laws allowing incorporation are a bad thing and a affront to the free market. In the free market, a *true* free market, there are no special protections awarded to people.
There is nothing wrong with business by itself, the problem is with combining business and government via Fascism or Corporatism.
And yes, as your clearly point out.. some people have more money than others. This unfairness is the problem that motivated Marx to create communism.. clearly one of the most self destructive, intellectually slothful, and even hateful (from the point of freedom) systems of government ever designed by man. Marx was a genus, but he failed to realize something simple.. that people only want to better themselves not each other, it is our nature.. and that nature can not be changed without extreme force. So.. if Marx couldn't solve the problem of a free world being an unfair world.. can you? Perhaps this is why people say life as a whole is unfair.
The great virtue of a free market system is that it does not care what color people are; it does not care what their religion is; it only cares whether they can produce something you want to buy. It is the most effective system we have discovered to enable people who hate one another to deal with one another and help one another. --Milton Friedman
It happens all the time, go video tape a cop, see what happens.
It happens so often that there is demand for software applications for cell phones that store the video on online sources such as blogger so cops can't delete it.
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Oh yeah, I agree with you. I'm not part of the government, I have no illusion of such a falsity. lol
Even if you were to attempt to get government to pay you (with taxpayer money they stole from other people) you would still loose out because you would have to take time off work and go to deal with them / go to their court. etc..
* A concerned citizen found SSN Numbers in public that the goons government didn't care to protect.
* Government goons ignored her when she brought this to their attention (over several years).
* She then created a website to expose this act of government incompetence to the public. She posted SSN number of people like Colin Powell and Jeb Bush.
* The Government goons intended to crack down on her and make the act of exposing their incompetence illegal. Essentially saying that it was illegal for her to do exactly the same thing they were already doing, and were undoubtedly going to continue to do.
That is insane
No longer is government concerned with addressing problems it has, now it wants to shut people up who air their dirty laundry. This is *exactly* like the MIT Subway hacker case. This lady is a hero, Government MUST be accountable for its actions when they are operating in error.
Ever watch CSPAN? Politicians and bureaucrats are always on their blackberry. They use diffrent methods of sending messages but that *is* a data network that goes over the internet.. how hard would it be to intercept traffic sent from AT&T (the carrier or.. it's Level 3 actually) to Blackberry the (provider) or vice versa using BGP attack?
God knows what you could find out.. who is screwing who, what politicians are on drugs, where the crashed flying saucers are stored.. ???
If someone ever did expose all the lies of government, (and we know they are lying to some degree) and gave the people honesty just for once .. what do you think would happen?
I know *exactly* what you mean. Let me tell you why you're here. You're here because you know something. What you know you can't explain, but you feel it. You've felt it your entire life, that there's something wrong with the world. You don't know what it is, but it's there, like a splinter in your mind, driving you mad. It is this feeling that has brought you to me. Do you know what I'm talking about?
-- The most dangerous terrorist in the world.
But in a MitM attack.. If the DNS can be intercepted and rerouted to a spoofed site.. or the cert can be intercepted on the fly and regenerated.. why can't the information sent back from the notary also be forged?
Seems like an extra hoop for hackers to jump through but not an impossible one.
But loose with the RIAA?
Even the way they phrase the eminent domain case. "The City is trying to buy our house." lol .. no they are not buying it, they are taking it at their price and if you refuse they are just going to take it and put you in jail.
What garbage, I hope kids are smarter than that. Unfortunately I have not a lot of faith.
Yeah, good thinking rich guys.
There are variations depending on what game you are playing.. Sometimes a joystick is better, sometimes a mouse is better.. and technically you can use both on both.
All I'm getting at is Console gaming is cheaper in the long run than PC gaming. A good console will last you 3-5 years and play thousands of games. A gamer PC if they wanted to remain current would be at least twice as expensive and would have to be upgraded at least once in 3 years.
You sure seem to have a lot of faith in laws.
The reason they are not more careful with the data is they don't have to be. The government isn't hurt when it looses your data. They aren't even hurt when they loose your money. I forget what State it is now but they had peoples SSN numbers up on one of their web sites plain as day.
Government bureaucrats are NEVER accountable for anything. (even if they did loose 4 million euros) The best you can do is sue the branch of government and then they will pay that with YOUR tax money.
The real solution is to not collect the information in the first place. Yes, I am really implying that government does not need to know who you are and deal in every aspect of your life.. and that would require a lot fewer bureaucrats around too.
I'm sure this post is encrypted...If only there were a way to use Schneier's algorithm...Wait...Got it! Here is the decrypted text:
Yes, I agree with moderatorrater. It appears Slashdot was jumping the gun. I like to ride mopeds.
It is, but unfortunately he is using ROT26.
TIMECUBE theory can never be broken because Shamir's math is educated stupid.
Yeah, thats funny. :)
It's like saying "Quick we need a law against this math, that will get rid of it!"
Some people fixed that problem.. they sell these things now called consoles that play games. They call them things like Wii, PS3, and Xbox and they play games better than desktop computers.
So try this.. instead of buying that ultra expensive and soon to be obsolete Alienware gamers PC (and a copy of Vista), buy a regular PC with Ubuntu and a PS3. Your life will be happier.
I heard a story of a Martial Arts trainer for police officers who is noticing that police are becoming more and more aggressive.. and he said the reason why is police departments are more stringent on background checks now than ever before. Now anyone with *any* blemish on their record are not allowed to become police officers and what they are getting for recruits are straight edge weaklings who are looking for power to wield over others, or ex-military who have been kicking in doors in Iraq for the past 4 years.
That is a recipe for abusive police.
The NSA has to make sure they can turn it on in your pocket and bug you.. you know.. for your safety.. in case Bin Ladden ever got one.. and if you don't like that then you must be hiding something..
I think the entire concept of police is wrong. I think we need peace officers not police officers.
Police's job should be to prevent people from hurting one another period. Maintain the peace long enough for individuals to file suit on one another. I think the war on drugs has gone a long way to militarizing the police and destroying people right to privacy, If you got rid of the vice crimes, I suspect citizens and police would get along a lot better.
Also the people need more power to be able to fire police officers who show a trend of abusing their powers. If they really do work for us.. and I'm skeptical.. I think they work for the state.. but if they work for us then we should be able to fire them, and it shouldn't be very hard to do. If they do serve us and we are there customers then we need some form or recourse, currently we don't really have any. Sites like ratemycop.com should NEVER be shut down.
Yeah, the "thin blue line" as they call it..
You can think I'm a troll if you like but I'm dead serious. Free Talk Live (sig) covers nearly all these outrageous police stories everybody hears about in the main stream media, but the one thing that FTL will do is they also follow up on each of these stories long after the mainstream media goes away and forgets about it... and I kid you not.. in over 100 stories that I have heard FTL cover about bad cops.. not one of them ever went to jail, nobody lost their job, nobody was ever fined, or demoted, sometimes the officers who commit the crimes aren't even NAMED. The thin blue line closes ranks around the bad cops immediately and the department goes into cover up / damage control mode.
Thats actually right, police are not your friends, they are not coming to your house for a good reason.. however I have found out that you do not need to open the door for them. If they have a warrant they will just kick it in anyhow. No real good can happen to you by talking to them because they are only going to start looking for things to get you on.
Best advice is to just stay as far away from them as possible.
I don't disagree with this, they should be policed more rigorously than the general public, and they usually are. If a cop comes under investigation for a crime, it is a lot more likely to make it to Court than if it is a private citizen, at least in Canada anyways. The best solution to this problem is to allocate more money to police budget so that you have more people wanting to become police officers (since now you'll have an actual benefit to the amount of work they have to do) and can be pickier with who you choose.
Are you kidding me? You want to pay them MORE?? Are you insane?
Here is what happens.
1. Cops do something terrible. (Tazer a man to death, shoot an unarmed man at point blank range, raid the wrong house and shoot grandma, dump a quadriplegic out of his wheelchair, etc.)
2. The police department starts an official investigation.
3. The officers are suspended with pay. This is in effect a paid vacation.
4. After several months the department concludes that no wrong doing took place.
5. Police officers involved in the incident return to work, and sometimes are even promoted.
I can cite case after case after case of this happening.. search google for "police cleared of wrong doing" .. it will make you sick.
Oh I have no idea if its true or not..
But it does raise the question of "Who owns the moon?" It's perfectly fine to say, nobody.. or all people.. or whatever when nobody can get to it.. but a valuable resource that you can get to and use.. I don't expect governments around the world to be ok with "community" ownership for very long.
Initially the wars in space will be pretty cool I think though.. lol
That is what I was thinking.
I heard a conspiracy theory that the renewed interest in the moon by NASA at the direction of George Bush was due to the discovery of Helium-3 there.
Helium-3 is a non-radioactive isotope http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helium-3
My understanding of this is that this means is you can have fusion without radiation only dealing with heat and actually raw electricity as a by product. So it seems the energy generation is far greater than other forms of fusion. ... Or in other words.. Bush is invading the moon for a new kind of "oil".
There are some distinctions between a rental contract and society. A rental contract is an agreement two people enter voluntarily, they create a document detailing what is expected from each other etc.. This is a good thing. Only good results when people voluntarily interact. (granted that interaction is free from force or fraud, but then it wouldn't be voluntary if force or fraud was used.)
However.. rules of "society" are *not* voluntarily and are heavily enforced by the crazed believers of society; enforced with threats, fines, jail, and eventually guns. I think these people are as crazy as religious fanatics of old who would sacrifice people to their god and claim that their way was the only way and if we did not follow the rules some sort of hell would come about.
You said so yourself.. that without the unnatural system of corporations and the practice of creating fictional people to control buisness that society would fall apart.. Do you really think that chaos would result and fire would rain from the sky if fictional people did not operate businesses?
The practice of creating corporations breaks the natural concept and practice of the free market because it absolves people of responsibility, that's all I'm saying.
Read what you wrote! We have *exactly* the world you want! Individuals can and are liable when they "lie or know about important safety information." And what you call the "manufacturer" -- that you say should be protected from liability if consumers understand the risk -- is simply a collective entity with liability rules. And just for fun, in the case of disputes, we'll allow the consumer to sue the entity so as to determine whether it's the "manufacturer" or the management at fault. Congratulations, you have invented the corporation. :D
I'm referring to manufacturer in the same way one would refer to a buisness. I mean the person, or individuals who created the product. Where did I create the fictional legal entity again?
You misunderstand what society is. You seem to think that society is a collective group of individuals, but it's not. Society is the *rules*, the *structure*, by which the individuals function together. Society is as real as the written law books, and as real as social ostracization if certain unwritten rules are broken.
I think I understand the concepts of society.. but then again I think I understand the concepts of Santa Claus too.. neither actually exist.
So.. let me get this straight.. your saying society is words on paper written in some book, correct? You said before that society could not function without corporations, how is it that this book functions, and why would you care if a book or the words in it were malfunctioning?
You think society exists, then prove it. I think its a type of religion created like other religions by people wishing to control other people, but if not, show me a picture of it or something.. because I'll show you a picture of Zeus and Jesus having coffee at Starbucks before you show me a "society". You are using it as a noun right? "The society was hurt by ignoring fictional people called corporations. The society ran across the road." I'm using it correctly right?
Society is a myth, its a fiction. You can refer to it, but its a fabrication created in your mind not dissimilar to how a child would believe in Santa Clause. People are individuals not groups.
It is absolutely more fair than the alternative. Let's say you're the CEO of Ford, and someone has an accident and dies in one of your cars. Should the CEO be brought up on charges of Involuntary Manslaughter? On every single accident? Basically, every company CEO would be *personally* responsible for everything that ever happened in the company, whether they personally designed anything or not. Does that seem fair? You might be thinking, "Good! Then they'll be extra careful!" Except that it's literally impossible for anyone to be perfectly in charge of everything.
Is the CEO liable? Was there a decision made by someone at Ford that lead to the cause of the accident? These are the questions that need to be asked in order to answer. People should be liable for their actions that harm or defraud people. I believe it is perfectly fine to sell someone an unsafe product so long as the buyer understands the risks. Practically, every product sold has a certain level of risk if used in a particular manner. If a buyer accurately understands the risks but decides to uses a product in a unsafe manner then he absolves the manufacturer of any liability. If the CEO or someone else at Ford lied to people or knew about, yet ignored important safety information then yes, that person *not* his "fictional corporation" should be liable.
There is a reason corporations exist. It's because society couldn't function without them.
Society does not exist but people can function just fine without corporations AKA "make believe buisness people".
Fascism is when government controls corporations.
Corporatism is when corporations controls government.
The terms business and corporation are not the same either and there is an important distinction you are forgetting.
A corporation is "legal protection" granted by the government to a business. A corporation creates a fictional person existing in the legal world that represents a something that actually exists, that is a business. Government grants this protection to business men so they can operate with immunity. Does this seam fair? You can't create a fictional person and operate with immunity can you? Laws allowing incorporation are a bad thing and a affront to the free market. In the free market, a *true* free market, there are no special protections awarded to people.
There is nothing wrong with business by itself, the problem is with combining business and government via Fascism or Corporatism.
And yes, as your clearly point out.. some people have more money than others. This unfairness is the problem that motivated Marx to create communism.. clearly one of the most self destructive, intellectually slothful, and even hateful (from the point of freedom) systems of government ever designed by man. Marx was a genus, but he failed to realize something simple.. that people only want to better themselves not each other, it is our nature.. and that nature can not be changed without extreme force. So.. if Marx couldn't solve the problem of a free world being an unfair world.. can you? Perhaps this is why people say life as a whole is unfair.
The great virtue of a free market system is that it does not care what color people are; it does not care what their religion is; it only cares whether they can produce something you want to buy. It is the most effective system we have discovered to enable people who hate one another to deal with one another and help one another.
--Milton Friedman
It happens all the time, go video tape a cop, see what happens.
It happens so often that there is demand for software applications for cell phones that store the video on online sources such as blogger so cops can't delete it.