Well... I may be wrong, but I thought that until 1.3.3 the OS/free software client, gift, worked with the Kaaza network. 1.3.3 included security features to specifically to stop gift. And I mean that one of the main features of FS/OS software, of which gift is an example, was that you can share it with your friends.
The security feature meant that a centralized server was needed and this means that they can use this server to control the Kaaza users breach of copyright (as the RIAA would have it) and because they now had this capability and were not using it meant that they were suable.
Yes. The only reason that KaZaa are in trouble is because they blocked people who thought that they should share their file sharing software. If they hadn't been so megalomanic, they wouldn't be in this trouble.
Alien54 *did* understand that and make a joke about it (which you missed).
To understand it, see (hear) the Hitchhiker's episode where Zaphod needs some help and phones his grandfather Zaphod Bebblebrox IV ("there was an accident with a contraceptive and time machine").
Living in Glasgow, I couldn't help but think of the quiddich match as between Partick Thistle and Celtic. (Maybe this was no coincidence considering the stubstantial Scottish influcence (at least from the actors) of the film).
Thank goodness Thistle won.
Re: The Scorcer's Stone. I noticed that in one of the books that the children were using to research the stone it was actually written "The Philospher's Stone". This shot was only seen for a second or so. I wonder if there was a different book was used for the American version?
I would say that the current GNU/Hurd system is about as stable/everyday-useful as slackware was when it came on 12 floppies (without X11) and using linux 1.3.x some time in the mid 1990s.
At the time, as soon as I discoved slackware, I thought it was great and switched to it right away for "production" work.
The trouble that now we use linux with stability and featurefulness and it's easy to look at the Hurd with jaded vision.
So it's relative. GNU/Hurd as it is now would have been considered fine for production work if in 1995. Not to mention that GNU/Hurd now has Debian infrastructure... Is that good enough? For some, I'd say yes.
Anyway, it's way more stable than Win98 and is getting better much faster that it used to.
If I understand correctly, the Hurd will, in future be moving to a new microkernel called OSKit-Mach. OSKit-mach is based (as you may guess) on OSKit and OSKit (which is distributed and maintained at the University of Utah) contains Linux device drivers. As you may know, the (vast?) majority of Linux code is actually the device drivers - so most of Linux is now available for users of the Hurd.
So in answer to your point: they have considered the device drivers.
Gates: "Really, the reason you see open source there at all is because we came in and said there should be a platform that's identical with millions and millions of machines,"
This is not true. The real reason was that GNU software (which comprises a substantial part of what some people call "open source") was (and is) designed to be ported to a variety of systems (in fact, it is the most ported software). All it took was a POSIX complient kernel/library to provide the whole system. It had nothing to do with the homogeneity of systems, but with the skill of the program authors to provide the ability of the operating system to be ported to many kernels (such as the wonderful Linux, obviously).
Yes indeed. As much as many would want to criticise the GNU Hurd for design decisions, or "Cathederal" vs. Bazaar development model, the real Number One Reason why Linux took off and the Hurd didn't is that, simply, Alan decided to develop Linux rather than the Hurd.
I'd just like to say that I think the KCDH is good stuff. Interesting, critical and sometimes funny, it's a worthwhile read. A bit too Debian-influenced for my liking to be ideal, but the articles about the kernel proper are certainly worthy of attention (as is Kernel Threads, of course).
My immediate response to this page: 56K not an issue, unreadably tiny font: argh! Hate Hate Hate!
I use Mozilla (very nice these days). Is there a way of stopping tiny fonts? Sadly many web sites use them (I stopped visitting kuroshin for this reason, it was just too difficult too read).
Recent comments by RMS and Robert Chessall have not been particularly encouraging (to the GNU/Hurd developers). Do you have anything inspiring to offer them?
Why do you think that the FSF approves of this? Eben Moglen approves of this for sure, but he is not the FSF nor is he acting on their behalf or representing them in this issue.
The FSF have made no statement one way or the other.
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..the birth canal of a distribution
otherwise known as...
ahem...
ah... lets not go there...
Well... I may be wrong, but I thought that until 1.3.3 the OS/free software client, gift, worked with the Kaaza network. 1.3.3 included security features to specifically to stop gift. And I mean that one of the main features of FS/OS software, of which gift is an example, was that you can share it with your friends.
The security feature meant that a centralized server was needed and this means that they can use this server to control the Kaaza users breach of copyright (as the RIAA would have it) and because they now had this capability and were not using it meant that they were suable.
The press release may be of some interest.
Yes. The only reason that KaZaa are in trouble is because they blocked people who thought that they should share their file sharing software. If they hadn't been so megalomanic, they wouldn't be in this trouble.
Ironic isn't it?
That's right.
Look at the gas giant endor. That had a moon that gave rise to a massive forest and a race of giant teddy bears.
You were right, then.
Nice to get a comment back from Alien54.
(I like the look of Radio Free Nation, btw).
Alien54 *did* understand that and make a joke about it (which you missed).
To understand it, see (hear) the Hitchhiker's episode where Zaphod needs some help and phones his grandfather Zaphod Bebblebrox IV ("there was an accident with a contraceptive and time machine").
Perhaps it was too subtle and obscure for most...
Not quiditch.
Anyway...
Living in Glasgow, I couldn't help but think of the quiddich match as between Partick Thistle and Celtic. (Maybe this was no coincidence considering the stubstantial Scottish influcence (at least from the actors) of the film).
Thank goodness Thistle won.
Re: The Scorcer's Stone. I noticed that in one of the books that the children were using to research the stone it was actually written "The Philospher's Stone". This shot was only seen for a second or so. I wonder if there was a different book was used for the American version?
Me fail English!? That's unexcusable!
Heh. That's not what I meant
The topic preamble mentions Eben Moglen - but I can't find his paper. Can you help? Where is it?
Thx
I would say that the current GNU/Hurd system is about as stable/everyday-useful as slackware was when it came on 12 floppies (without X11) and using linux 1.3.x some time in the mid 1990s.
At the time, as soon as I discoved slackware, I thought it was great and switched to it right away for "production" work.
The trouble that now we use linux with stability and featurefulness and it's easy to look at the Hurd with jaded vision.
So it's relative. GNU/Hurd as it is now would have been considered fine for production work if in 1995. Not to mention that GNU/Hurd now has Debian infrastructure... Is that good enough? For some, I'd say yes.
Anyway, it's way more stable than Win98 and is getting better much faster that it used to.
Role on woody+1.
If I understand correctly, the Hurd will, in future be moving to a new microkernel called OSKit-Mach. OSKit-mach is based (as you may guess) on OSKit and OSKit (which is distributed and maintained at the University of Utah) contains Linux device drivers. As you may know, the (vast?) majority of Linux code is actually the device drivers - so most of Linux is now available for users of the Hurd.
So in answer to your point: they have considered the device drivers.
This is not true. The real reason was that GNU software (which comprises a substantial part of what some people call "open source") was (and is) designed to be ported to a variety of systems (in fact, it is the most ported software). All it took was a POSIX complient kernel/library to provide the whole system. It had nothing to do with the homogeneity of systems, but with the skill of the program authors to provide the ability of the operating system to be ported to many kernels (such as the wonderful Linux, obviously).
Yes indeed. As much as many would want to criticise the GNU Hurd for design decisions, or "Cathederal" vs. Bazaar development model, the real Number One Reason why Linux took off and the Hurd didn't is that, simply, Alan decided to develop Linux rather than the Hurd.
Eh? What about the rest of us?
Perhaps you mean "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland"?
Who do you think make the whisky? The jordies?
I'd just like to say that I think the KCDH is good stuff. Interesting, critical and sometimes funny, it's a worthwhile read. A bit too Debian-influenced for my liking to be ideal, but the articles about the kernel proper are certainly worthy of attention (as is Kernel Threads, of course).
Fix your crossfire link.
The Register had this story several days ago. I'd provide a link, but their search engine is broke :)
Planes? Indeed.
What about cars? If driving a car was make illegal the the terrorists would never have made it to the airport.
What about boxes? If boxes had been made illegal the terrorists could never have pretended that they had a bomb.
[Slashdot needs an +1 Irony]
... is already happenning. Have you been through security at Hethrow (London) recently?
(Be also ready to hand over your crypto keys as you go...)
Yes! That's it! Facial hair! Bastards!
Well, the people directly resonsible are now dead.
It does not seem moral to me to kill people who symathise with the suicide attackers.
Yes, exactly.
My immediate response to this page: 56K not an issue, unreadably tiny font: argh! Hate Hate Hate!
I use Mozilla (very nice these days). Is there a way of stopping tiny fonts? Sadly many web sites use them (I stopped visitting kuroshin for this reason, it was just too difficult too read).
Recent comments by RMS and Robert Chessall have not been particularly encouraging (to the GNU/Hurd developers). Do you have anything inspiring to offer them?
Why do you think that the FSF approves of this? Eben Moglen approves of this for sure, but he is not the FSF nor is he acting on their behalf or representing them in this issue.
The FSF have made no statement one way or the other.