From how you described it, I'd think they would be open to a fraud lawsuit based upon damages that occurred from Rambus willfully hiding information. What damages you ask? Why having to pay licencing fees to Rambus for patents they hid. So for every dollar Rambus charges in licences, they have to pay the company a dollar in return. That just seems too fair.
Honest question, no trolls or political flamers need apply.
If conservatives like the free market, why do they think that applying regulations or laws to keep the market free is a bad thing? This seems like a straight forward issue of making sure the telco's and internet providers don't abuse their control over your internet pipe to either make sure their services win against competitors or hold hostage good bandwidth to upstream companies in order to get bits of data to your house. How is this a bad thing?
It seems like in all these conservatives vs liberal economic discussions, conservatives seem themselves on the side of the corporation and liberals see themselves on the side of the individual. Liberals like myself LIKE the free market but we demand regulation to keep it fair and thus free. Why aren't conservatives exactly the same?
Please any conservative who is interested in a honest discussion explain things to me. This is how I see it and I just plain don't get the other view. After all, in my framing, the other side is saying "we will fight for the corporation's to financially rape us to their hearts content, restrict information flow to MY house, control who *I* use, and potentially block out content *I* want to see just because they feel like it." How is government regulation worse than that?
Please leave out the talking point bullshit, just honest (and rational) views.
LOL... if you look at the picture closely, the multimeter is reading 2 MEGA ohms, not 2 ohms. Now maybe he's just showing off for the picture and in reality he can sometimes see much smaller values, but if it's really just 2Mohms then he's stupid for jumping to this conclusion. 2 Mohms means the for a 4V batter you're only drawing 2 uA of current... that's 0.000002A, a negligible amount for a kindle.
However if this was designed for the LED, it could pass through the voltage regulator and a 2 ohm load on the voltage regulator could be enough to drop the output voltage, thus resetting the kindle. 2A of current is a SHITLOAD of current for something like the kindle. It's not designed for anywhere near that amount of load. I would guess it's typical operating current is somewhere less than 0.250A typically.
Making intelligent estimates: i would guess the kindle's batteries are somewhere between 1000mAh and 2000mAh at the 4V mark someone threw out in an earlier post. Given the 250mA current draw, you would then be able to use the kindle for somewhere between 4 and 8 hours on a charge. That sounds about right to me. If anything I thought the kindle would last somewhere between 10 and 15 hours between charges, but I don't know since I don't have one. But that puts my estimate in the ballpark.
For a battery of this size, 2A is likely to brown it out even if it wasn't going through a voltage regulator, however like I said, the picture doesn't show that 2A of current will flow, it shows that 0.000002A of current will flow.
Yeah, but i'd rather have a mediocre one than none at all. Now granted, I don't watch much TV, but the last time I looked, the SyFi channel just played Ghost hunter bullshit. Where the hell IS good Sci Fi?
I for one enjoyed the Stargate series. It's not exactly deep.... but if you've seen today's TV lineup, it doesn't appear that "deep" sells these days, if it ever has.
For Example: Donation to a charity buys the user the perception of improving the world in some way,
Funny, that's EXACTLY what we're talking about. People can use Wikipedia for FREE, but they can contribute and get the perception that they're helping maintain this resource for all to use.
Wow that's hilarious! you truly believe for one second that the southern representatives were thinking "my property... er, i mean, my slaves... i mean, Negros have the right to carry guns on them at all times"???
There are times a government needs to keep secrets, however the US government has gone way overboard. Obama has done nothing to change that despite promises of a more open government, so I for one welcome the new openness that has come from wikileaks and will support efforts for it to continue. It has been a welcome breath of fresh air to see how OUR (the people's) government operates and to see the lies it has been shoveling back in the homeland.
I think it's much better to be too open than too secretive.... but then again, I believe it's better to keep our freedoms and be attacked by terrorists than become a police state and be "safe". I must be the crazy one.
Super computing is also a lot about pushing those large quantities of data around and the programming that allows you to use that theoretical 500 TFLOPS of power. You could end up with something that can do significant calculations but just uses 100baseT to push data around. That's just isn't very efficient for many uses of super computers, and certainly not a world class number cruncher. Just to give you something to compare it against, super computers today are looking to have 10 Tbps switches on backplanes. That's 10 Tbps of information passing through the switch hooking up a rack of servers.
IMHO, hardware super computer engineering hurdles are about four things: processing power, data pipelines, memory, and dissipating heat. You can't fail any one of those four if you want something usable. (Software engineering hurdles I'll leave to experts as I am not one.)
Yeah... except that Google I trust to some degree and facebook I don't.
I'm only on facebook because that's the only way to keep up with some of my friends/relatives who I would otherwise lose contact with. But personally I despise the facebook use model and management and would happily dump it the first chance I got if some other program were to fill it's shoes. I wish animosity toward facebook and success toward google. That's the core difference in my eyes: Corporate scumminess.
The obstruction of justice charge is the strangest part IMHO. Trying to clean up after a crime is a bigger crime than the crime itself? So if I wear latex gloves to commit a murder and then throw them away when I'm done, am I now guilty of obstruction of justice charges as well as the murder? If I shoplift something and then run away before someone can catch me, am I guilty of obstruction of justice charges as well? Is any attempt to remove evidence of a crime make you guilty of a felony? That just seems crazy. Running away is obstructing justice. Wearing a mask while committing a crime is obstructing justice. in fact, anything other than going directly to the police station with evidence in hand is obstruction of justice.
I don't get how they draw this line so easily for computer crimes but not for other crimes.
Ah, thank you for the informative link. Yes, you can also patent how something works, which is what was patented here. I over looked that because of the simplicity of the lego itself. (Wow, 49 years ago.)
Ok... let's get this straight. patents are about HOW you make something, not about WHAT you make. You can't patent a lego block, you you can patent the process for making lego blocks. But if a competitor figures out a different way to make blocks, they are free to do so as long as they sell them under their own brand name. This is competition. This is free market.
The place where the real issues will come into play is when you combine a good 3D scanner with a good 3D printer. Then you start to have thorny issues to deal with....
I'm confused. What IP are you talking about? The types of things that these machines can make are all out of patent and are being mass produced in china today. Basically what you're replicating are things that can be made with molded plastic. What IP is in debate here?
For music there is copyright rules. If you could theoretically copy exactly some Gucci bag, then great, you have issues, but if you left off the logo and made some small changes, no legal problems. However, we're currently so far away from that we might as well be talking about teleporter technology instead of this.
(The company I work for owns a 3D printer and I've used in numerous times. It's cool, but not quite as cool as you think.)
People find the path of least resistance. They will figure out the minimum work that must be done and do that. You can see a million examples of this from how you drive to how to get ready for work/school in the morning. People will find the easiest way to play the game. People want that. Parents do not.
I believe the reason the Wii was so successful was because of two reasons, the first was cost, and the second was because the parents were sold on the idea that their kids would have to do more than just "lay on the sofa" and flick the controller back and forth. That the video gaming experience would have to involve movement and activity not just laying on the couch with a controller in hand. But now you're saying "bah, the kids can't defeat this feature and just be lazy blobs on their couch... it'll never sell." That's not a negative, that's an incredible positive!
Frankly if MS can pull this off, this will be the biggest step toward virtual reality we've taken in a long damn time. I'm no MS fanboi, but I'm optimistic about the possibilities for the technology. My kids are still pretty young, but if this works, they may be playing this type of gaming in the future rather than the mouse/keyboard FPS gaming I prefer.
Think of this more like an optical mouse. The optical mouse takes hundreds (thousands?) of pictures a second and looks for movement on the table surface. Does the CPU of your computer get bogged down processing all those pictures? No, of course not. That's because the logic is all controlled in the mouse itself. This has got to be the same. They must have a pretty decent custom designed chip that can handle the processing of the images and send the movement information back to the "PC" (AKA Xbox).
Yeah, the polls said that about 66% of the people didn't want the bill to pass... that's because 30% of those wanted the BILL TO GO FARTHER! That means that only 33% didn't want any change to the health care system while 66% did! People were overwhelmingly in favor of the public option, but it didn't happen. People wanted change, but unfortunately we got weak sauce change because our government is massively corrupt. Money and corporations rule the country.
The non-partisan CBO listed the health care bill as deficit neutral AND the two faced republicans/corporate democrats killed any cost savings measures (such as the public option) that would have lead to real savings from the bill.
Un huh. EER, SEER, and COP are all standards for measuring efficiency. They do nothing to "prove" your point that heat pumps are greater than 100% efficiency (and violate the 2nd law of thermodynamics) and they haven't done a single thing to prove resistive heating isn't 100% efficient.
I know, you think you're smart throwing out acronyms without a single technical thing piece of information. I don't know basic physics? nice. show me an equation. So far all you've done is toss out incorrect bullshit and worthless acronyms. man up or shut up.
Basic physics. You can't get more energy from something than you put into it. If you "tie geothermal" into it... pisya... we're talking home heating. You're not doing better than resistive heating because ALL THE ENERGY YOU PUT INTO IT IS TURNED INTO HEAT. Perfect efficiency.
Ok... so this just struck me as wrong. Who do we import eh most from? China and Japan would be the first two that come to mind for me. China being waaay #1, but enough cars and stuff from Japan that they'd be up there. But you put all Atlantic ports on the top of the list. That just doesn't seem right. So.....
Doing a quick google search: "Busiest container ports in the world" from Wikipedia lists the top US ports as:
16. Los Angeles 18. Long Beach 22. New York 37. Savannah
Louisiana and Texas didn't even make the list up to that point. So the difference is that you're comparing is probably raw resources vs finished goods in these two cases. My guess is that the top people on your list are transporting metric shitloads of concrete and coal vs the California ports doing more finished goods (thus cargo containers). Grandparent's point appears to still valid. How do you think all the stuff from China gets across the country to stores on the east coast?
"That's because you're ignorant. AC is a heatpump, which is vastly more energy efficient than resistive heating. "
Um... what? What are you smoking? Resistive heat is... let me calculate this out... ok... 100% efficient (ignoring the losses in the power lines getting the electricity to your house). As in, all the energy that is used up goes toward heating. All. That's perfect efficiency. It doesn't get any better.
They've got this already... they're called capacitors. Ok, they're not smaller than a grain of salt, but an 0201 package is really fricken small.
Do you really need the greater power density you get from a chemical reaction rather than a capacitor at those sizes? A capacitor is so much easier to fabricate and charge that I can't imagine why you would go for a battery. I mean, in order to charge a battery, you'd need a chip that is MUCH larger than a grain of salt... although even for a cap you'd want a voltage regulator of some sort.
Maybe I'm missing something here. What is this for? Nano-machines? Nano listening devices? Nano-trackers? Now that seems like the really interesting question....
So this of course means that you're also totally ok with blocking slashdot too, right?
That's what gets me the most about this entire topic is how many people are ok with saying "facebook@work = evil, stealing from the company lazy employees!!", but "slashdot@work = ok because it helps me with some downtime to keep me productive."
You forgot the part that's even worse... at night, when you're no looking, he *gasp* goes to a different place and uses a computer WITHOUT a firewall and does face-book non-stop, or at least until he sleeps.
"OMG. Why o why does my company employ such lowly filth?" you ask as you type away on your own geek based social networking site, "it's despicable!"
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From how you described it, I'd think they would be open to a fraud lawsuit based upon damages that occurred from Rambus willfully hiding information. What damages you ask? Why having to pay licencing fees to Rambus for patents they hid. So for every dollar Rambus charges in licences, they have to pay the company a dollar in return. That just seems too fair.
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Honest question, no trolls or political flamers need apply.
If conservatives like the free market, why do they think that applying regulations or laws to keep the market free is a bad thing? This seems like a straight forward issue of making sure the telco's and internet providers don't abuse their control over your internet pipe to either make sure their services win against competitors or hold hostage good bandwidth to upstream companies in order to get bits of data to your house. How is this a bad thing?
It seems like in all these conservatives vs liberal economic discussions, conservatives seem themselves on the side of the corporation and liberals see themselves on the side of the individual. Liberals like myself LIKE the free market but we demand regulation to keep it fair and thus free. Why aren't conservatives exactly the same?
Please any conservative who is interested in a honest discussion explain things to me. This is how I see it and I just plain don't get the other view. After all, in my framing, the other side is saying "we will fight for the corporation's to financially rape us to their hearts content, restrict information flow to MY house, control who *I* use, and potentially block out content *I* want to see just because they feel like it." How is government regulation worse than that?
Please leave out the talking point bullshit, just honest (and rational) views.
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LOL... if you look at the picture closely, the multimeter is reading 2 MEGA ohms, not 2 ohms. Now maybe he's just showing off for the picture and in reality he can sometimes see much smaller values, but if it's really just 2Mohms then he's stupid for jumping to this conclusion. 2 Mohms means the for a 4V batter you're only drawing 2 uA of current... that's 0.000002A, a negligible amount for a kindle.
However if this was designed for the LED, it could pass through the voltage regulator and a 2 ohm load on the voltage regulator could be enough to drop the output voltage, thus resetting the kindle. 2A of current is a SHITLOAD of current for something like the kindle. It's not designed for anywhere near that amount of load. I would guess it's typical operating current is somewhere less than 0.250A typically.
Making intelligent estimates: i would guess the kindle's batteries are somewhere between 1000mAh and 2000mAh at the 4V mark someone threw out in an earlier post. Given the 250mA current draw, you would then be able to use the kindle for somewhere between 4 and 8 hours on a charge. That sounds about right to me. If anything I thought the kindle would last somewhere between 10 and 15 hours between charges, but I don't know since I don't have one. But that puts my estimate in the ballpark.
For a battery of this size, 2A is likely to brown it out even if it wasn't going through a voltage regulator, however like I said, the picture doesn't show that 2A of current will flow, it shows that 0.000002A of current will flow.
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Yeah, but i'd rather have a mediocre one than none at all. Now granted, I don't watch much TV, but the last time I looked, the SyFi channel just played Ghost hunter bullshit. Where the hell IS good Sci Fi?
I for one enjoyed the Stargate series. It's not exactly deep.... but if you've seen today's TV lineup, it doesn't appear that "deep" sells these days, if it ever has.
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For Example: Donation to a charity buys the user the perception of improving the world in some way,
Funny, that's EXACTLY what we're talking about. People can use Wikipedia for FREE, but they can contribute and get the perception that they're helping maintain this resource for all to use.
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Wow that's hilarious! you truly believe for one second that the southern representatives were thinking "my property... er, i mean, my slaves... i mean, Negros have the right to carry guns on them at all times"???
hahahahahahahahaha!!!!!
I don't think you have a good grasp of history.
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There are times a government needs to keep secrets, however the US government has gone way overboard. Obama has done nothing to change that despite promises of a more open government, so I for one welcome the new openness that has come from wikileaks and will support efforts for it to continue. It has been a welcome breath of fresh air to see how OUR (the people's) government operates and to see the lies it has been shoveling back in the homeland.
I think it's much better to be too open than too secretive.... but then again, I believe it's better to keep our freedoms and be attacked by terrorists than become a police state and be "safe". I must be the crazy one.
Long live wikileaks.
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I wouldn't say "no matter how you look at it".
Super computing is also a lot about pushing those large quantities of data around and the programming that allows you to use that theoretical 500 TFLOPS of power. You could end up with something that can do significant calculations but just uses 100baseT to push data around. That's just isn't very efficient for many uses of super computers, and certainly not a world class number cruncher. Just to give you something to compare it against, super computers today are looking to have 10 Tbps switches on backplanes. That's 10 Tbps of information passing through the switch hooking up a rack of servers.
IMHO, hardware super computer engineering hurdles are about four things: processing power, data pipelines, memory, and dissipating heat. You can't fail any one of those four if you want something usable. (Software engineering hurdles I'll leave to experts as I am not one.)
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Re: xkcd ... so you're implying that Glen Beck's arguments, while filled with logical fallacies, are in-fact correct?
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I second this!
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Yeah... except that Google I trust to some degree and facebook I don't.
I'm only on facebook because that's the only way to keep up with some of my friends/relatives who I would otherwise lose contact with. But personally I despise the facebook use model and management and would happily dump it the first chance I got if some other program were to fill it's shoes. I wish animosity toward facebook and success toward google. That's the core difference in my eyes: Corporate scumminess.
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The obstruction of justice charge is the strangest part IMHO. Trying to clean up after a crime is a bigger crime than the crime itself? So if I wear latex gloves to commit a murder and then throw them away when I'm done, am I now guilty of obstruction of justice charges as well as the murder? If I shoplift something and then run away before someone can catch me, am I guilty of obstruction of justice charges as well? Is any attempt to remove evidence of a crime make you guilty of a felony? That just seems crazy. Running away is obstructing justice. Wearing a mask while committing a crime is obstructing justice. in fact, anything other than going directly to the police station with evidence in hand is obstruction of justice.
I don't get how they draw this line so easily for computer crimes but not for other crimes.
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Ah, thank you for the informative link. Yes, you can also patent how something works, which is what was patented here. I over looked that because of the simplicity of the lego itself. (Wow, 49 years ago.)
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Ok... let's get this straight. patents are about HOW you make something, not about WHAT you make. You can't patent a lego block, you you can patent the process for making lego blocks. But if a competitor figures out a different way to make blocks, they are free to do so as long as they sell them under their own brand name. This is competition. This is free market.
The place where the real issues will come into play is when you combine a good 3D scanner with a good 3D printer. Then you start to have thorny issues to deal with....
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I'm confused. What IP are you talking about? The types of things that these machines can make are all out of patent and are being mass produced in china today. Basically what you're replicating are things that can be made with molded plastic. What IP is in debate here?
For music there is copyright rules. If you could theoretically copy exactly some Gucci bag, then great, you have issues, but if you left off the logo and made some small changes, no legal problems. However, we're currently so far away from that we might as well be talking about teleporter technology instead of this.
(The company I work for owns a 3D printer and I've used in numerous times. It's cool, but not quite as cool as you think.)
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People find the path of least resistance. They will figure out the minimum work that must be done and do that. You can see a million examples of this from how you drive to how to get ready for work/school in the morning. People will find the easiest way to play the game. People want that. Parents do not.
I believe the reason the Wii was so successful was because of two reasons, the first was cost, and the second was because the parents were sold on the idea that their kids would have to do more than just "lay on the sofa" and flick the controller back and forth. That the video gaming experience would have to involve movement and activity not just laying on the couch with a controller in hand. But now you're saying "bah, the kids can't defeat this feature and just be lazy blobs on their couch... it'll never sell." That's not a negative, that's an incredible positive!
Frankly if MS can pull this off, this will be the biggest step toward virtual reality we've taken in a long damn time. I'm no MS fanboi, but I'm optimistic about the possibilities for the technology. My kids are still pretty young, but if this works, they may be playing this type of gaming in the future rather than the mouse/keyboard FPS gaming I prefer.
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Think of this more like an optical mouse. The optical mouse takes hundreds (thousands?) of pictures a second and looks for movement on the table surface. Does the CPU of your computer get bogged down processing all those pictures? No, of course not. That's because the logic is all controlled in the mouse itself. This has got to be the same. They must have a pretty decent custom designed chip that can handle the processing of the images and send the movement information back to the "PC" (AKA Xbox).
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Yeah, the polls said that about 66% of the people didn't want the bill to pass... that's because 30% of those wanted the BILL TO GO FARTHER! That means that only 33% didn't want any change to the health care system while 66% did! People were overwhelmingly in favor of the public option, but it didn't happen. People wanted change, but unfortunately we got weak sauce change because our government is massively corrupt. Money and corporations rule the country.
The non-partisan CBO listed the health care bill as deficit neutral AND the two faced republicans/corporate democrats killed any cost savings measures (such as the public option) that would have lead to real savings from the bill.
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Un huh. EER, SEER, and COP are all standards for measuring efficiency. They do nothing to "prove" your point that heat pumps are greater than 100% efficiency (and violate the 2nd law of thermodynamics) and they haven't done a single thing to prove resistive heating isn't 100% efficient.
I know, you think you're smart throwing out acronyms without a single technical thing piece of information. I don't know basic physics? nice. show me an equation. So far all you've done is toss out incorrect bullshit and worthless acronyms. man up or shut up.
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Basic physics. You can't get more energy from something than you put into it. If you "tie geothermal" into it... pisya... we're talking home heating. You're not doing better than resistive heating because ALL THE ENERGY YOU PUT INTO IT IS TURNED INTO HEAT. Perfect efficiency.
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Ok... so this just struck me as wrong. Who do we import eh most from? China and Japan would be the first two that come to mind for me. China being waaay #1, but enough cars and stuff from Japan that they'd be up there. But you put all Atlantic ports on the top of the list. That just doesn't seem right. So.....
Doing a quick google search: "Busiest container ports in the world" from Wikipedia lists the top US ports as:
16. Los Angeles
18. Long Beach
22. New York
37. Savannah
Louisiana and Texas didn't even make the list up to that point. So the difference is that you're comparing is probably raw resources vs finished goods in these two cases. My guess is that the top people on your list are transporting metric shitloads of concrete and coal vs the California ports doing more finished goods (thus cargo containers). Grandparent's point appears to still valid. How do you think all the stuff from China gets across the country to stores on the east coast?
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"That's because you're ignorant. AC is a heatpump, which is vastly more energy efficient than resistive heating. "
Um... what? What are you smoking? Resistive heat is ... let me calculate this out... ok... 100% efficient (ignoring the losses in the power lines getting the electricity to your house). As in, all the energy that is used up goes toward heating. All. That's perfect efficiency. It doesn't get any better.
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They've got this already... they're called capacitors. Ok, they're not smaller than a grain of salt, but an 0201 package is really fricken small.
Do you really need the greater power density you get from a chemical reaction rather than a capacitor at those sizes? A capacitor is so much easier to fabricate and charge that I can't imagine why you would go for a battery. I mean, in order to charge a battery, you'd need a chip that is MUCH larger than a grain of salt... although even for a cap you'd want a voltage regulator of some sort.
Maybe I'm missing something here. What is this for? Nano-machines? Nano listening devices? Nano-trackers? Now that seems like the really interesting question....
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So this of course means that you're also totally ok with blocking slashdot too, right?
That's what gets me the most about this entire topic is how many people are ok with saying "facebook@work = evil, stealing from the company lazy employees!!", but "slashdot@work = ok because it helps me with some downtime to keep me productive."
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You forgot the part that's even worse... at night, when you're no looking, he *gasp* goes to a different place and uses a computer WITHOUT a firewall and does face-book non-stop, or at least until he sleeps.
"OMG. Why o why does my company employ such lowly filth?" you ask as you type away on your own geek based social networking site, "it's despicable!"
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