What kind of upgrade path is their from FTTN to FTTH? After some googling, all the articles/discussion I've seen about this are marred with political ideology.
If paying for FTTN and then FTTH is individually cheaper then going straight to FTTH (even if the total is more expensive) it may be easier for a future government to sell as prudent policy.
Government finances work differently to normal finances, when you're guaranteed a certain level of tax income, two smaller payment (over a period of time) that sum up to be larger than one big payment can be regarded as easier on the budget and easier to sell politically - most people care about short term costs.
So what are the alternatives? They can pull their music out of these services and get $0. If Spotify (and the like) give them more, we pay more. I don't think people are willing to pay more than roughly $10.00 a month for these things.
Artists will never say they have enough money, and people will never say they want to support artists - that is until they have to put their money where their mouth is. If spotify doubles their fees how many people will stop subscribing? Spotify already pays 70% to artists/their Representatives.
Content producers don't control their distribution medium anymore and people are used to free (or cheap) content. How much is Art worth? Should a good album make musicians millions? Why? The days of $20.00 albums are over - were they ever justifiable?
Perhaps Artists should lower their expectations - Artists should be grateful to services like Pandora/Spotify the alternatives aren't great.
In Australia we have an government initiative called VAST (Viewer Access Satellite Television). Essentially, If you live in a rural area and have trouble getting OTA signals, they'll subsidize the cost of a satellite dish+decoder.
All the OTA channels are put up on the Optus C1 satellite and depending on your location they'll unlock the channels you're meant to get in your area.
I see no reason why this can't be extended to non-rural areas on a house-by-house basis.
The trick (i use) to getting an edit in Wikipedia is to state my intent on the Talk page, something like "If no-one objects,..." wait a day, then post. Either someone will respond and a discussion will ensue or no one will respond at all. I've never had an edit reverted when i do this.
I have no idea about the internal mechanisms behind this though, i only edit/add a few lines at a time - i might just be lucky.
As i'm on a students budget, if i can build something i will:
> a used 20Mhz Oscilloscope
>a +/- 15V 1A Power supply i built with lm335s
>A signal generator i build with an XR2206 (going to replace with a bunch of op amps)
> A few multimeters of varying quality
> A few arduino clones (works great) and a generic PIC programmer (it's cheap and shit).
> enough antennas on my roof to make the neighbours complain. I'm looking to build a transceiver soon.
> A raspberry pi and a bunch of sensors.
I don't feel particularly limited with any of that stuff. I'll eventually replace it with proper certified test gear as i reach their limits.
As for how often i'm using the oscilloscope: When i need to use it, i use it. It's useful when it is useful, if i don't always use it it doesn't mean it's not worth having.
Strangely enough a logic analyser is one of the few bits of gear I've never wanted..
Another added incentive to the idea of the user tactically pushing Canonical (and Shuttleworth) aside is "The Ubuntu Foundation", A $10 million dollar commitment Shuttleworth put aside as an "emergency fund" in the event that Canonical's involvement in the Ubuntu project ends.
Ubuntu is in a rut. They're not making money, growth is plateauing, it's mindshare is diminishing. It's questionable if they'll ever make a profit. I mean why Ubuntu over Novell, Oracle or RedHat for enterprise stuff? RedHat is a billion dollar publicly listed company..Novell is owned by attachemate group (a billion dollar revenue company) and Oracle poops money.
The Ubuntu Edge was a hail Mary pass that failed. They lack the revenue (and wherewithal) to get into hardware and no hardware maker wants to partner with them.
I have to wonder, when will shuttleworth stop? Would it be extreme to say Canonical is a failed company? At what point is Ubuntu going to transition into a community driven OS? Ubuntu TV is vapourware, their phone OS relies on someone willing flashing their nexus..They've totally fucked their Desktop OS and it's unclear why anyone would select them for enterprise support considering the breadth of their competition.
I wonder what version you have? I have the very first batch (managed to get my order in on open day). It's the 256mb one, there have been one or two design revisions since.
Perhaps we should differentiate between the versions when we talk about them.
My Raspberry pi has done a few things:
It started off as a cheap server (running stripped down debian - essentially for eggdrop and ssh tunneling). replaced it with an old desktop for stability.
Then it had a brief stint as a pbx with asterisks, it was buggy and was overkill for my purposes. I learnt how to set up asterisks, though - no mean feat.
It's currently acting as a media centre (with openELEC) but as i hardly use it (again, randomly freezes, lags) i'll soon replace it with a mini PC of some kind.
Next i'll either hook it up to a surveillance camera and make it stream video (or upload snapshots) over the internet or use the gpio pins and hook it up to some transducers and see what ideas i come up with.
The RPi is cheap, it has a lot of projects revolving around it, it's buggy as hell, its essentially only good for fleshing out ideas until i can justify (or not justify) buying nicer hardware (for me at least).
So what handheld computer should I use if I want to write my own software but don't want Google
Continue using Android. It's an acceptable OS (I use it). Accept that if you want to use Android, they're going to want you to use their other services. It's not google's fault it has shitty competition. There is also WP8.
No, you have a Google account. Google is requiring certain users who already have a Google account to add a Google+ profile to their Google account and associate all activity on their Google account with their Google+ profile.
yes, yes they are. I don't care. I have a Google+ account (and like it). They are also giving people with Google+ page preferential search results. I also don't care, google can do what it wants. I don't care if google is playing dirty, i don't expect better. No one is forcing me to use any of their services. I choose to use them. I also don't post anything particularity private or embarrassing. Google is not my friend (and that's OK). They will eventually force everyone to use G+ (guess what, i don't care).
The point of my post, which you seem to have taken as criticizing Google (presumably because it wasn't fawning with devotion) was to tell people to get a G+ account and stop whining or stop using feedly and Google.
I use twitter everyday (essentially as a simplified rss reader) and i like it. The user-name i have is not the one i wanted, I have three user-names i use regularly, all were taken. All three of those accounts haven't tweeted anything in years and they've all only tweeted less than 10 times.
These accounts are still regarded as active - despite a policy of removing inactive accounts after a (unspecified) period. There are thee options: 1) these people install the twitter app on their phone, sign in and never open it again (but it runs in the background), 2) these people only use twitter's OAuth functionality to sign into other sites, or 3) twitter just doesn't delete inactive accounts.
They need to state how many were up for sale to begin with and if "sold out" means sold to retail stores or people for this to mean anything.
Having said that, there is nothing particularly wrong (in a technical sense) with the surface devices other than people don't seem to want them.
I like the metro interface for a tablet, it's a good idea. There's the problem of apps though, people with Android/iOS specific apps simply won't/can't migrate, all MS can do is push devs to port the top 100 apps people use and hope to win by attrition. MS Office/Outlook and all the MS Enterprise services compatibility on a tablet is a big hook for a lot of people too..
They are a little expensive for the underdog product. They need to sell these devices at close to cost, flood the market and then slowly hike up the prices once they've killed off competition with lock-ins. There was a time when MS would do this instinctively.
What he means is that they're going to sell Linux mini computers for your TV that boot directly into a 10 ft. designed steam.
Anything for the Linux Desktop (and FOSS) is purely tangential groundwork for an eventual console. Gabe seems at least reasonably intelligent. I'm sure he realises Linux on the Desktop is a lost cause..
The OP is using a WM because it's reminiscent to the WM of a dead OS he liked from the early 90s.
If developers do anything more than maintenance work on the code, it's going to be less and less like his beloved, "Presentation Manager" and more like a modern WM, giving him less and less incentive to actually stay with IceWM. So what exactly does he want? He seems to be sticking to IceWM out of habit, perhaps he should look around at other WMs and not limit himself.
When i was running Linux I used IceWM+PCmanFM for desktop icons, It's a fine for what it is, a loose imitation of the classic windows UIs. Like all cloneware, there comes a time when interest wanes, and the code is deemed "done".
Man-O-Man do the Ubuntu fanboys annoy me. Canonical never really expected the fundraiser to succeed? This was all a marketing exercise? Come on, you'll give yourself a lot more credibility if you just admit this was a dismal failure.
They like to mention the fact that the Ubuntu Edge campaign holds a record for most pledges, but It holds the record for the largest unsuccessfully funded project too.
Linux users are cheap, there is no money to be made from them. The top selling app in Ubuntu App store has dozens of sales.
Also, lets not forget Canonical is a for-profit company. It's a bit pathetic for it to have to crowd source funding.
MS has no incentive to screw with Google. It knows Google is very alert and capable of fighting back.
The theory that MS is deliberately messing with youtube ads is preposterous. MS needs a working youtube app for windows phone. MS knows very well that if they do anything nefarious google will simply block the app. Google has zero incentive to help MS build a youtube app, they're dragging their feet and likely acting because of the possibility of DoJ action.
Here's an idea: Google sees Windows Phone as its only long term competitor, unlike iOS (which will always be limited by Apple's insistence on hardware control), WP8 can be licensed by any hardware manufacturer. WP8 might be a small competitor but it's its only competitor. All the other OSs are either for feature phones or don't have any commercial backing. WP8 is a decent phone OS, its largest problem is the lack of apps.
All media outlets have a bias. If you think there is an outlet that is unbiased, you're mistaken, but it probably shares your bias.
RT is one Russian version of the American VOA, Alhurra, Radio Farda and countless others. If you think the BBC is really a "service" for the benefit of humanity, you're a fool, the UK would be foolish not to use it as a propaganda arm and if you listen to it as often as i do (In English, French and Arabic), you'll detect certain biases (such as a lack of local British coverage over Assange and the London Riots). Although the English Arm is definitely of better quality.
I don't think it's possible for any media to be unbiased, they all have owners with opinions (who can at least set the tone). I'm glad RT freely admits it's agenda.Caveat emptor.
Linus explained the reason he does this once (can't find the video). If communication is all done through writing, sometimes the subtleties and tone of a statement are missed.
There is a certain type of kernel programmer who is not particularly emotionally intelligent or socially lucid (but super smart). Telling that type of programmer "That's a interesting way of doing it, but....." or that "your code needs improving" may not register as as "No" and will lead to a lot of wasted effort.
Linus appears to use abrasive language as a crutch and as a way to reduced the numbers of words he has to write. I doubt he has actual anger problems (not that i know him). It's just a technique.
By "vendor" i mean MS. I completely stopped using Linux in 2011, I started with FC3 and have used all the top 10 distros on distrowatch.
When you use a Linux distro, you are using software that has been written by other people, packaged by another set of people, when something breaks the user complains to the distro maintainers (AKA "the vendor" - learn this word) and they pass it on to the independent developers, who may or may not chose to fix the issue, depending on their priorities.
You're counter arguments aren't new or good. You can't compare piTiVi, Openshot or Kdenlive to say, vegas pro. If you claim any of those are as good, you are rooting for a team, not the best product. Hardware support has "improved" (although it's still lowest common denominator support) but hardware support is much better with windows so why bother with Linux?
Incidentally, i hear opposite views on HW support, some say it's "great", others say it's abysmal. If two people can have such differing experiences with an OS, some may say that this is the definition of instability.
I see you have conveniently left out the rest of my points, to which you have not presented an argument. It is also foolish of you to "stop reading" a thread you don't agree with, growth and learning is about trying to understand another persons POV, Linux isn't a religion is it? criticism is important.
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What kind of upgrade path is their from FTTN to FTTH? After some googling, all the articles/discussion I've seen about this are marred with political ideology.
If paying for FTTN and then FTTH is individually cheaper then going straight to FTTH (even if the total is more expensive) it may be easier for a future government to sell as prudent policy.
Government finances work differently to normal finances, when you're guaranteed a certain level of tax income, two smaller payment (over a period of time) that sum up to be larger than one big payment can be regarded as easier on the budget and easier to sell politically - most people care about short term costs.
Another reason for keeping xp is that they very likely have the xp code audited and custom patched to their liking.
Correction: ...Artists will never say they have enough money, and people will never stop saying they want to support artists...
So what are the alternatives? They can pull their music out of these services and get $0. If Spotify (and the like) give them more, we pay more. I don't think people are willing to pay more than roughly $10.00 a month for these things.
Artists will never say they have enough money, and people will never say they want to support artists - that is until they have to put their money where their mouth is. If spotify doubles their fees how many people will stop subscribing? Spotify already pays 70% to artists/their Representatives.
Content producers don't control their distribution medium anymore and people are used to free (or cheap) content. How much is Art worth? Should a good album make musicians millions? Why? The days of $20.00 albums are over - were they ever justifiable?
Perhaps Artists should lower their expectations - Artists should be grateful to services like Pandora/Spotify the alternatives aren't great.
In Australia we have an government initiative called VAST (Viewer Access Satellite Television). Essentially, If you live in a rural area and have trouble getting OTA signals, they'll subsidize the cost of a satellite dish+decoder.
All the OTA channels are put up on the Optus C1 satellite and depending on your location they'll unlock the channels you're meant to get in your area.
I see no reason why this can't be extended to non-rural areas on a house-by-house basis.
The trick (i use) to getting an edit in Wikipedia is to state my intent on the Talk page, something like "If no-one objects,..." wait a day, then post. Either someone will respond and a discussion will ensue or no one will respond at all. I've never had an edit reverted when i do this.
I have no idea about the internal mechanisms behind this though, i only edit/add a few lines at a time - i might just be lucky.
As i'm on a students budget, if i can build something i will:
> a used 20Mhz Oscilloscope
>a +/- 15V 1A Power supply i built with lm335s
>A signal generator i build with an XR2206 (going to replace with a bunch of op amps)
> A few multimeters of varying quality
> A few arduino clones (works great) and a generic PIC programmer (it's cheap and shit).
> enough antennas on my roof to make the neighbours complain. I'm looking to build a transceiver soon.
> A raspberry pi and a bunch of sensors.
I don't feel particularly limited with any of that stuff. I'll eventually replace it with proper certified test gear as i reach their limits.
As for how often i'm using the oscilloscope: When i need to use it, i use it. It's useful when it is useful, if i don't always use it it doesn't mean it's not worth having.
Strangely enough a logic analyser is one of the few bits of gear I've never wanted..
Another added incentive to the idea of the user tactically pushing Canonical (and Shuttleworth) aside is "The Ubuntu Foundation", A $10 million dollar commitment Shuttleworth put aside as an "emergency fund" in the event that Canonical's involvement in the Ubuntu project ends.
Ubuntu is in a rut. They're not making money, growth is plateauing, it's mindshare is diminishing. It's questionable if they'll ever make a profit. I mean why Ubuntu over Novell, Oracle or RedHat for enterprise stuff? RedHat is a billion dollar publicly listed company..Novell is owned by attachemate group (a billion dollar revenue company) and Oracle poops money.
The Ubuntu Edge was a hail Mary pass that failed. They lack the revenue (and wherewithal) to get into hardware and no hardware maker wants to partner with them.
I have to wonder, when will shuttleworth stop? Would it be extreme to say Canonical is a failed company? At what point is Ubuntu going to transition into a community driven OS? Ubuntu TV is vapourware, their phone OS relies on someone willing flashing their nexus..They've totally fucked their Desktop OS and it's unclear why anyone would select them for enterprise support considering the breadth of their competition.
You're not particularly thoughtful are you?
Killing him won't destroy his documents. It's certain he's got multiple backups with multiple people.
Why would the US government risk egg on their faces and a further highlight the degradation of American Ideals for nothing?
Anyone surprised? That's what intelligence agencies do.
I wonder what version you have? I have the very first batch (managed to get my order in on open day). It's the 256mb one, there have been one or two design revisions since.
Perhaps we should differentiate between the versions when we talk about them.
My Raspberry pi has done a few things: It started off as a cheap server (running stripped down debian - essentially for eggdrop and ssh tunneling). replaced it with an old desktop for stability.
Then it had a brief stint as a pbx with asterisks, it was buggy and was overkill for my purposes. I learnt how to set up asterisks, though - no mean feat.
It's currently acting as a media centre (with openELEC) but as i hardly use it (again, randomly freezes, lags) i'll soon replace it with a mini PC of some kind.
Next i'll either hook it up to a surveillance camera and make it stream video (or upload snapshots) over the internet or use the gpio pins and hook it up to some transducers and see what ideas i come up with.
The RPi is cheap, it has a lot of projects revolving around it, it's buggy as hell, its essentially only good for fleshing out ideas until i can justify (or not justify) buying nicer hardware (for me at least).
I have a Casio FX991ES, it has a nice display, can do unit conversion, polar arithmetic and is cheap.
It's pretty common in Australia. It has a different model number in every country.
So what handheld computer should I use if I want to write my own software but don't want Google
Continue using Android. It's an acceptable OS (I use it). Accept that if you want to use Android, they're going to want you to use their other services. It's not google's fault it has shitty competition. There is also WP8.
No, you have a Google account. Google is requiring certain users who already have a Google account to add a Google+ profile to their Google account and associate all activity on their Google account with their Google+ profile.
yes, yes they are. I don't care. I have a Google+ account (and like it). They are also giving people with Google+ page preferential search results. I also don't care, google can do what it wants. I don't care if google is playing dirty, i don't expect better. No one is forcing me to use any of their services. I choose to use them. I also don't post anything particularity private or embarrassing. Google is not my friend (and that's OK). They will eventually force everyone to use G+ (guess what, i don't care).
The point of my post, which you seem to have taken as criticizing Google (presumably because it wasn't fawning with devotion) was to tell people to get a G+ account and stop whining or stop using feedly and Google.
Use Google to search for an alternative you can use on your Android phone and sign up to it with your Gmail address.
If you have an android phone/a youtube account/ or a gmail address you have a g+ account.
I use twitter everyday (essentially as a simplified rss reader) and i like it. The user-name i have is not the one i wanted, I have three user-names i use regularly, all were taken. All three of those accounts haven't tweeted anything in years and they've all only tweeted less than 10 times.
These accounts are still regarded as active - despite a policy of removing inactive accounts after a (unspecified) period. There are thee options: 1) these people install the twitter app on their phone, sign in and never open it again (but it runs in the background), 2) these people only use twitter's OAuth functionality to sign into other sites, or 3) twitter just doesn't delete inactive accounts.
They need to state how many were up for sale to begin with and if "sold out" means sold to retail stores or people for this to mean anything.
Having said that, there is nothing particularly wrong (in a technical sense) with the surface devices other than people don't seem to want them.
I like the metro interface for a tablet, it's a good idea. There's the problem of apps though, people with Android/iOS specific apps simply won't/can't migrate, all MS can do is push devs to port the top 100 apps people use and hope to win by attrition. MS Office/Outlook and all the MS Enterprise services compatibility on a tablet is a big hook for a lot of people too..
They are a little expensive for the underdog product. They need to sell these devices at close to cost, flood the market and then slowly hike up the prices once they've killed off competition with lock-ins. There was a time when MS would do this instinctively.
What he means is that they're going to sell Linux mini computers for your TV that boot directly into a 10 ft. designed steam.
Anything for the Linux Desktop (and FOSS) is purely tangential groundwork for an eventual console. Gabe seems at least reasonably intelligent. I'm sure he realises Linux on the Desktop is a lost cause..
Go Kernel!!
I don't get this kind of mentality.
The OP is using a WM because it's reminiscent to the WM of a dead OS he liked from the early 90s.
If developers do anything more than maintenance work on the code, it's going to be less and less like his beloved, "Presentation Manager" and more like a modern WM, giving him less and less incentive to actually stay with IceWM. So what exactly does he want? He seems to be sticking to IceWM out of habit, perhaps he should look around at other WMs and not limit himself.
When i was running Linux I used IceWM+PCmanFM for desktop icons, It's a fine for what it is, a loose imitation of the classic windows UIs. Like all cloneware, there comes a time when interest wanes, and the code is deemed "done".
Man-O-Man do the Ubuntu fanboys annoy me. Canonical never really expected the fundraiser to succeed? This was all a marketing exercise? Come on, you'll give yourself a lot more credibility if you just admit this was a dismal failure.
They like to mention the fact that the Ubuntu Edge campaign holds a record for most pledges, but It holds the record for the largest unsuccessfully funded project too.
Linux users are cheap, there is no money to be made from them. The top selling app in Ubuntu App store has dozens of sales.
Also, lets not forget Canonical is a for-profit company. It's a bit pathetic for it to have to crowd source funding.
MS has no incentive to screw with Google. It knows Google is very alert and capable of fighting back.
The theory that MS is deliberately messing with youtube ads is preposterous. MS needs a working youtube app for windows phone. MS knows very well that if they do anything nefarious google will simply block the app. Google has zero incentive to help MS build a youtube app, they're dragging their feet and likely acting because of the possibility of DoJ action.
Here's an idea: Google sees Windows Phone as its only long term competitor, unlike iOS (which will always be limited by Apple's insistence on hardware control), WP8 can be licensed by any hardware manufacturer. WP8 might be a small competitor but it's its only competitor. All the other OSs are either for feature phones or don't have any commercial backing. WP8 is a decent phone OS, its largest problem is the lack of apps.
All media outlets have a bias. If you think there is an outlet that is unbiased, you're mistaken, but it probably shares your bias.
RT is one Russian version of the American VOA, Alhurra, Radio Farda and countless others. If you think the BBC is really a "service" for the benefit of humanity, you're a fool, the UK would be foolish not to use it as a propaganda arm and if you listen to it as often as i do (In English, French and Arabic), you'll detect certain biases (such as a lack of local British coverage over Assange and the London Riots). Although the English Arm is definitely of better quality.
I don't think it's possible for any media to be unbiased, they all have owners with opinions (who can at least set the tone). I'm glad RT freely admits it's agenda.Caveat emptor.
Linus explained the reason he does this once (can't find the video). If communication is all done through writing, sometimes the subtleties and tone of a statement are missed.
There is a certain type of kernel programmer who is not particularly emotionally intelligent or socially lucid (but super smart). Telling that type of programmer "That's a interesting way of doing it, but....." or that "your code needs improving" may not register as as "No" and will lead to a lot of wasted effort.
Linus appears to use abrasive language as a crutch and as a way to reduced the numbers of words he has to write. I doubt he has actual anger problems (not that i know him). It's just a technique.
By "vendor" i mean MS. I completely stopped using Linux in 2011, I started with FC3 and have used all the top 10 distros on distrowatch.
When you use a Linux distro, you are using software that has been written by other people, packaged by another set of people, when something breaks the user complains to the distro maintainers (AKA "the vendor" - learn this word) and they pass it on to the independent developers, who may or may not chose to fix the issue, depending on their priorities.
You're counter arguments aren't new or good. You can't compare piTiVi, Openshot or Kdenlive to say, vegas pro. If you claim any of those are as good, you are rooting for a team, not the best product. Hardware support has "improved" (although it's still lowest common denominator support) but hardware support is much better with windows so why bother with Linux?
Incidentally, i hear opposite views on HW support, some say it's "great", others say it's abysmal. If two people can have such differing experiences with an OS, some may say that this is the definition of instability.
I see you have conveniently left out the rest of my points, to which you have not presented an argument. It is also foolish of you to "stop reading" a thread you don't agree with, growth and learning is about trying to understand another persons POV, Linux isn't a religion is it? criticism is important.