If you are loading a plugin in your app, perhaps you should load it in such a way that your app can keep control over it
Firefox does do this to an extent. If I load a Flash page and the page is unresponsive, I get a dialog box saying 'This Flash script is unresponsive, do you want to abort it?' or something, same with Javascript that might get stuck in an infinite loop or something. I know this isn't the same as Java or Quicktime etc, but FF does take this into consideration in some sense. I don't think you can blame FF (or indeed any browser) even partly for this one, Apple screwed up.
Shouldn't they be upset at Sun? Why is Apple getting the flack?
Because Apple have shot themselves in the foot with this one. Apple decided they wanted to make Java themselves and offer it through Software Update and all the other Mac niceties. However, Sun releases Java 6 and us Mac Java developers are still waiting. That's why Apple gets the flack and not Sun.
I've read the article but it's a little thin on details. All I can see is that it has something to do with Xubuntu and installs an Apache webserver on your machine
However, if it installs Apache, what's to stop me just trashing the config file, setting up VirtualHosts that screw with it etc? Or creating some kind of loopback so that when it tries to phone home, it goes nowhere etc etc. Are these things taken into account?
If we think it's acceptable to change spellings of words in order to make them easier, why not go whole hog?
If I'm changing 'colour' to 'color' or replacing 's' with 'z' as often as possible (and simultaneously making our lives hell when spell-checkers default to US English and never remember when you change them back!) why not go the whole way? It shouldn't be easier, it should be 'eazier' maybe even 'eezier' or how about 'eyzeerr'. How far are we supposed to go?
I'm of the opinion that if you want to corrupt words, at least do it properly! At least with |337 speak they don't pretend that they are still spelling things properly, then preaching about 'actually, legalize makes more sense than legalise'. They know it's ridiculous, but don't forget, you only get so many characters in a text message, it's about saving letters, not bastardising words.
To take the value judgement from the other direction, If I knew that there were aliens, and i had 100% indisputable truth, and I put that truth up for auction, how much do you think I could get for it (assuming someone didn't just come and beat it out of me of course)?
I suppose it depends on how much I know. If I _know_ that these aliens are willing to give me technology that I can use to make some serious money myself (new products, ideas etc) then I bet I could raise billions. How much would a mega-company give me if I could guarantee that every person in the world will need this product, and they can charge whatever they want, because no-one else will know how to get the technology from the aliens?
If all I knew was that these aliens were building a super express way and needed Earth out of the way, well I'm not sure I'd get anything for that knowledge, since there's nothing we can do about it.
Do I think it's worth $3million in private contributions per year to find out whether it's A, B or somewhere in the middle? I don't know, I didn't contribute to that $3million, but some people cared enough to donate it and try and find out, so good luck to them!
I was wondering about upgrading to Leopard once I get a new external HDD, but I have one big reservation, and I want to know if anyone knows the answer to this.
Does the Time Machine drive _have_ to be HFS+? I want to use Time Machine to manage my backups for it's ease of use, but I want to be able to also treat my external HDD as an external HDD! I want to be able to take it to someone's house who doesnt have a Mac and access my files from their machine (probably Windows XP obv).
Like most of us here I'm the local geek who fixes everyone's PC's and I stick alot of useful software on a DVD at the moment for helping fix someone's computer. I'd prefer to have this on an external drive (as well as all my backups) and use it.
If it insists on HFS+ it looks like I'll be using BackupPC. A nice interface is great, but if it makes my external HDD fixed to this machine, what's the point?
I still haven't thought what to format it anyway if I don't go for Time Machine. Obviously HFS+ can't be used everywhere, NTFS is no good on my Mac, FAT32 can't be used for backups with the 4GB file limit. What am I to do?!?
I don't seem to get why anyone needs to pick one or the other.
Personally, for the last 3 years I've been using Eclipse 3.x and Netbeans 5.x. I can see the benefits of each, and each annoys me in it's own seperate ways.
For example, in Eclipse, why can't I add an external folder to the classpath without stupid variables? Why only a jar? In Netbeans there isn't a distinction.
To me though, Netbeans just feels alot clunkier. Once I have everything set up in Eclipse, I'm definitely more productive, with one caveat. The GUI builder in Netbeans is fantastic, it really is. Nothing free that the Eclipse world offers even comes close to competing with it. I usually do most code in Eclipse, make the GUI in Netbeans and import that into Eclipse.
So I say, why pick one over the other? You need more than one tool to build a house, why not use as many as you like to build your software?
I'm not sure if i remember this correctly, but didn't Apple say they would be ending support for boot camp 'beta' as soon as Leopard came out? (i.e. every version that isn't leopard)
Are our XP boot camp partitions that we have now just suddenly going to stop working? I can see people getting really pissed about that, myself included!
On an interesting note it looks like it supports Vista properly now as well. I never wanted to just do an upgrade of my XP in case that stopped working.
I think the age old Apple rule applies. I certainly won't be upgrading to 10.5 until it's at least 10.5.1, and people find workarounds for all the problems that will inevitably come from this upgrade
Welcome to 4 months ago. That's the last time I bought a game for mine.
It was fun at first, and my dad still asks me to play a game of golf with him on it, but seriously, the novelty wears off very quickly.
I think most of the problem stems from the lack of original gameplay. The games that I bought were ones that just wouldn't work nearly as well with a different control scheme. Kororinpa is the best example. Using the wiimote to move the screen around is very intuitive and very fun.
But look at the raft of games coming out at the moment: Fifa 2008, Madden 08 and about 6 different kid's films adaptations. What makes me get this for my Wii instead of my 360? The control scheme is the Wii's only advantage, and what advantage does it have in anything that's coming out at the moment?
Most of the time when they do try and take advantage of the controls, it comes off worse anyway. Apparently Trauma Centre: Second Opinion is just far too fiddly and how many of us have stood spinning in a circle looking at the sky in an FPS?
I would love to see this succeed because for once someone tried something new, but with a lack of original content, what could you possibly achieve over the competition? To be honest, we all saw this coming
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Oh yes... and don't bore us with complaints that you already pay gasoline tax. What you *pay* in unimportant. What counts is the difference between what's needed for upkeep and congestion management and what's currently available.
In the UK, we already have to pay fuel tax _and_ road tax, which is then supposed to go into maintaining the road system
If I pay my road tax, then surely I am part owner of the roads? To charge me first to build/maintain them and then charge for the privilege of driving to work on them is ludicrous surely?
Here in Manchester, they want to introduce the 'Congestion Charge' scheme in the same way they have in London. Research done by local papers suggested that >60% of people opposed it (link), and yet the local authorities voted 9 to 2 in favour of it. Democracy at it's finest
How can this be modded informative after a statement like that? Good luck with that...
But what do you do about the random app that installs kernel extensions, browser extensions, and generally insinuates itself among all your stuff?
All major apps that do this sort of thing on OSX come with an uninstaller script (Parallels, XCode). If you installed an app that does some major stuff to your OS that doesn't supply an uninstaller, I think I would blame the user rather than the OS
Disclaimer - Mac user
If the article is suppoed to be "to see what somebody who had absolutely NO exposure to a mac" then how can it ever be a fair comparison when compared to their Linux and Windows articles? If somebody has bought a Mac, they are going to learn how to use it, just like they would have done with a Windows PC.
Think back to when you first learned Windows (only about 10 years ago for me), were you looking for a Wordpad replacement? No, you were looking for Wordpad! You had to look for it, you had to learn. Same here, you need a quick text editor, look around for one and you'll find TextEdit!
Its not fair to say "o well I know Wordpad is Start>Programs>Accessories>Wordpad but I can't find the Mac equivalent! Tch, this thing is impossible to use". Someone who has always worked on a Mac could just as easily have said 'well I know TextEdit is/Applications/TextEdit but where is the Windows version? Tch, this thing is impossible to use". It isn't valid in either case.
Same thing with spotlight. If you can find Start>Find you can find the big blue icon next to the clock (or the Firefox style search box in the Finder), just look for it!
I totally don't buy the "I can't find it without any effort, so it must be impossible to find" argument, but then I made the effort to actually learn.
Funnily enough, thats exactly how I've set it up, because it was just an experimental thing so that I could convince everyone to use it, and we couldnt really spare a server. You still have to install everything though and get it working, although there is a prebuilt installer for Windows that someone has contributed, but its a version of two behind now.
I'm in a similar situation (albeit we have about 30 employees) and I'm trying to convince everybody that we should use Trac. Its Python-based and can use SQLite, PostgreSQL or (experimental) MySQL. It also integrates nicely with a Version Control System (with Subversion preferred), has a built in Wiki system, reporting (with custom queries), timeline, roadmap of releases and search functions for when it starts getting a bit bigger.
At the moment we have an in-house solution which I'm responsible for maintaining, but it cant even touch anything thats available out there already
Only problem with Trac is thats its a touch difficult to install (if you know little about python and webservers). You have to install a webserver (though it does have a very limited one included), the python bindings for the server (as well as python bindings for other things such as the preferred database and VCS) and configure it all but once you get it up and running, its very customisable and there are loads of plugins available to help tailor to your needs.
Now if only management would give me the go-ahead...
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Firefox does do this to an extent. If I load a Flash page and the page is unresponsive, I get a dialog box saying 'This Flash script is unresponsive, do you want to abort it?' or something, same with Javascript that might get stuck in an infinite loop or something. I know this isn't the same as Java or Quicktime etc, but FF does take this into consideration in some sense. I don't think you can blame FF (or indeed any browser) even partly for this one, Apple screwed up.
Because Apple have shot themselves in the foot with this one. Apple decided they wanted to make Java themselves and offer it through Software Update and all the other Mac niceties. However, Sun releases Java 6 and us Mac Java developers are still waiting. That's why Apple gets the flack and not Sun.
I've read the article but it's a little thin on details. All I can see is that it has something to do with Xubuntu and installs an Apache webserver on your machine
However, if it installs Apache, what's to stop me just trashing the config file, setting up VirtualHosts that screw with it etc? Or creating some kind of loopback so that when it tries to phone home, it goes nowhere etc etc. Are these things taken into account?
So he beat Colossus now? But who won the real challenge way back when?
I don't think a modern programmer beating a 60 year old machine can claim much in bragging rights
(Disclaimer: British)
If we think it's acceptable to change spellings of words in order to make them easier, why not go whole hog?
If I'm changing 'colour' to 'color' or replacing 's' with 'z' as often as possible (and simultaneously making our lives hell when spell-checkers default to US English and never remember when you change them back!) why not go the whole way? It shouldn't be easier, it should be 'eazier' maybe even 'eezier' or how about 'eyzeerr'. How far are we supposed to go?
I'm of the opinion that if you want to corrupt words, at least do it properly! At least with |337 speak they don't pretend that they are still spelling things properly, then preaching about 'actually, legalize makes more sense than legalise'. They know it's ridiculous, but don't forget, you only get so many characters in a text message, it's about saving letters, not bastardising words.
To take the value judgement from the other direction, If I knew that there were aliens, and i had 100% indisputable truth, and I put that truth up for auction, how much do you think I could get for it (assuming someone didn't just come and beat it out of me of course)?
I suppose it depends on how much I know. If I _know_ that these aliens are willing to give me technology that I can use to make some serious money myself (new products, ideas etc) then I bet I could raise billions. How much would a mega-company give me if I could guarantee that every person in the world will need this product, and they can charge whatever they want, because no-one else will know how to get the technology from the aliens?
If all I knew was that these aliens were building a super express way and needed Earth out of the way, well I'm not sure I'd get anything for that knowledge, since there's nothing we can do about it.
Do I think it's worth $3million in private contributions per year to find out whether it's A, B or somewhere in the middle? I don't know, I didn't contribute to that $3million, but some people cared enough to donate it and try and find out, so good luck to them!
I was wondering about upgrading to Leopard once I get a new external HDD, but I have one big reservation, and I want to know if anyone knows the answer to this.
Does the Time Machine drive _have_ to be HFS+? I want to use Time Machine to manage my backups for it's ease of use, but I want to be able to also treat my external HDD as an external HDD! I want to be able to take it to someone's house who doesnt have a Mac and access my files from their machine (probably Windows XP obv).
Like most of us here I'm the local geek who fixes everyone's PC's and I stick alot of useful software on a DVD at the moment for helping fix someone's computer. I'd prefer to have this on an external drive (as well as all my backups) and use it.
If it insists on HFS+ it looks like I'll be using BackupPC. A nice interface is great, but if it makes my external HDD fixed to this machine, what's the point?
I still haven't thought what to format it anyway if I don't go for Time Machine. Obviously HFS+ can't be used everywhere, NTFS is no good on my Mac, FAT32 can't be used for backups with the 4GB file limit. What am I to do?!?
Apparently Zonk didn't (read it?).
I don't seem to get why anyone needs to pick one or the other.
Personally, for the last 3 years I've been using Eclipse 3.x and Netbeans 5.x. I can see the benefits of each, and each annoys me in it's own seperate ways.
For example, in Eclipse, why can't I add an external folder to the classpath without stupid variables? Why only a jar? In Netbeans there isn't a distinction.
To me though, Netbeans just feels alot clunkier. Once I have everything set up in Eclipse, I'm definitely more productive, with one caveat. The GUI builder in Netbeans is fantastic, it really is. Nothing free that the Eclipse world offers even comes close to competing with it. I usually do most code in Eclipse, make the GUI in Netbeans and import that into Eclipse.
So I say, why pick one over the other? You need more than one tool to build a house, why not use as many as you like to build your software?
Ah, thats a load off, thanks! I'll still hold off upgrading to Leopard until the dust settles though, you never know!
I'm not sure if i remember this correctly, but didn't Apple say they would be ending support for boot camp 'beta' as soon as Leopard came out? (i.e. every version that isn't leopard)
Are our XP boot camp partitions that we have now just suddenly going to stop working? I can see people getting really pissed about that, myself included!
On an interesting note it looks like it supports Vista properly now as well. I never wanted to just do an upgrade of my XP in case that stopped working.
I think the age old Apple rule applies. I certainly won't be upgrading to 10.5 until it's at least 10.5.1, and people find workarounds for all the problems that will inevitably come from this upgrade
Welcome to 4 months ago. That's the last time I bought a game for mine.
It was fun at first, and my dad still asks me to play a game of golf with him on it, but seriously, the novelty wears off very quickly.
I think most of the problem stems from the lack of original gameplay. The games that I bought were ones that just wouldn't work nearly as well with a different control scheme. Kororinpa is the best example. Using the wiimote to move the screen around is very intuitive and very fun.
But look at the raft of games coming out at the moment: Fifa 2008, Madden 08 and about 6 different kid's films adaptations. What makes me get this for my Wii instead of my 360? The control scheme is the Wii's only advantage, and what advantage does it have in anything that's coming out at the moment?
Most of the time when they do try and take advantage of the controls, it comes off worse anyway. Apparently Trauma Centre: Second Opinion is just far too fiddly and how many of us have stood spinning in a circle looking at the sky in an FPS?
I would love to see this succeed because for once someone tried something new, but with a lack of original content, what could you possibly achieve over the competition? To be honest, we all saw this coming
In the UK, we already have to pay fuel tax _and_ road tax, which is then supposed to go into maintaining the road system
If I pay my road tax, then surely I am part owner of the roads? To charge me first to build/maintain them and then charge for the privilege of driving to work on them is ludicrous surely?
Here in Manchester, they want to introduce the 'Congestion Charge' scheme in the same way they have in London. Research done by local papers suggested that >60% of people opposed it (link), and yet the local authorities voted 9 to 2 in favour of it. Democracy at it's finest
How can this be modded informative after a statement like that? Good luck with that...
But what do you do about the random app that installs kernel extensions, browser extensions, and generally insinuates itself among all your stuff?All major apps that do this sort of thing on OSX come with an uninstaller script (Parallels, XCode). If you installed an app that does some major stuff to your OS that doesn't supply an uninstaller, I think I would blame the user rather than the OS
Disclaimer - Mac user If the article is suppoed to be "to see what somebody who had absolutely NO exposure to a mac" then how can it ever be a fair comparison when compared to their Linux and Windows articles? If somebody has bought a Mac, they are going to learn how to use it, just like they would have done with a Windows PC. Think back to when you first learned Windows (only about 10 years ago for me), were you looking for a Wordpad replacement? No, you were looking for Wordpad! You had to look for it, you had to learn. Same here, you need a quick text editor, look around for one and you'll find TextEdit! Its not fair to say "o well I know Wordpad is Start>Programs>Accessories>Wordpad but I can't find the Mac equivalent! Tch, this thing is impossible to use". Someone who has always worked on a Mac could just as easily have said 'well I know TextEdit is /Applications/TextEdit but where is the Windows version? Tch, this thing is impossible to use". It isn't valid in either case.
Same thing with spotlight. If you can find Start>Find you can find the big blue icon next to the clock (or the Firefox style search box in the Finder), just look for it!
I totally don't buy the "I can't find it without any effort, so it must be impossible to find" argument, but then I made the effort to actually learn.
We could all learn from you. She's going to make a ton of money, and your trying to hit that. Kudos.
Funnily enough, thats exactly how I've set it up, because it was just an experimental thing so that I could convince everyone to use it, and we couldnt really spare a server. You still have to install everything though and get it working, although there is a prebuilt installer for Windows that someone has contributed, but its a version of two behind now.
I'm in a similar situation (albeit we have about 30 employees) and I'm trying to convince everybody that we should use Trac. Its Python-based and can use SQLite, PostgreSQL or (experimental) MySQL. It also integrates nicely with a Version Control System (with Subversion preferred), has a built in Wiki system, reporting (with custom queries), timeline, roadmap of releases and search functions for when it starts getting a bit bigger.
At the moment we have an in-house solution which I'm responsible for maintaining, but it cant even touch anything thats available out there already
Only problem with Trac is thats its a touch difficult to install (if you know little about python and webservers). You have to install a webserver (though it does have a very limited one included), the python bindings for the server (as well as python bindings for other things such as the preferred database and VCS) and configure it all but once you get it up and running, its very customisable and there are loads of plugins available to help tailor to your needs.
Now if only management would give me the go-ahead...