I'd thought that Yahoo learned their lesson with all those French and German lawsuits about Nazi memorabilia.
Yes; they learned that in every country, there are idiots who are opposed to freedom, and who will use the courts to attempt to enforce their values upon everyone else.
Pornography is indistinguishable from rape.
If pornography is indistinguishable from rape for you, you have no concept of what either is. How can you sit there and trivialize the anguish and pain that women have had forced upon them by their attackers? What kind of unfeeling monster are you? Are you even a woman?
There is no such thing as consent in pornography, because every person involved is there because of dire economic need.
Explain Terry Weigel, then.
Hell, explain why multi-millionaires keep going back to Playboy to get more pictures taken.
The free market cannot thrive unless we police it for criminal activity such as this, just as it cannot thrive unless we police the market square for pickpockets.
The free market cannot thrive unless prudes like you keep their goddamn nose out of other people's bedrooms.
Even if those people choose to take a camera into their bedroom. If you don't like it, don't watch it. Nobody is forcing you to. (Another one of those pesky distinctions between porn and rape; bet you wish those would all go away, that'd sure help you make your stupid analogy.)
Yahoo must not be allowed to perpetuate this abomination against humanity.
In every country, there are idiots who are opposed to freedom, and who will use the courts to attempt to enforce their values upon everyone else. Yahoo already learned that lesson, remember?
Although your post is an obvious troll, it really should be moderated down as redundant. Go away.
The only way in seems to be IMHO by cracking the DSLAM (concentrator) or by pinching my copper wire from the wall and do some jolly nice tricks with it.
Well, *IF* you're not running a firewall, there's supposedly some reflection attacks they can do off you, but if you're not running a firewall you're in way worse shape than just this vulnerability.
Oh my goodness, you HAVE to be a networking company, just to register in a hierarchy that is restricted to use by networking companies?
The nerve of some people. How can they get away with this?
Why, the next thing you know,.org.br will be restricted to organizations, and.edu.br will be restricted to schools!
Clearly, it's time for all Brazilians who think like you to rise up and overthrow their oppressors. Let me know how the three of you make out.
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Actually, people do have a crisis related to Bonobos because we are related to Bonobos -- very closely related -- indeed more closely related than any other species.
So? I don't see us dying out because we wiped out Neanderthal, and they were a hell of a lot more closely related to us than the Bonobos.
If we wipe out the species most closely related to us, we'll use the one next most closely related.
Beside, the folks trying to protect the Bonobo want to OUTLAW doing any experiments on them, so your argument completely falls apart.
Oh, and BTW, we wiped out Neanderthal without any technology more than a generation more advanced than "stick, pointed, Mod 1 mark 0".
Ok, go type in "bonobo gnome" like I suggested, and then come back here and tell what percentage of those links are about the primate.
I'll wait.
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Bonobos may have a crisis, but humans don't have a crisis related to Bonobos.
99% of all species that have ever existed are gone. Species would be dying out every day (statistically) even if Ogg had never discovered fire.
Evolution has chosen to experiment this time with an adaptation that allows a single species to fill many niches, even filling some of them with non-animals. If humans choose to employ nuclear weapons to win a war, that's no less natural than if a bird chooses to swallow a stone to grind it's food.
If we kill ourselves off, well, evolution is a harsh mistress sometimes. Get over it.
Or, try "bonobo gnome" and get 332 links at Google, and 21,462 links at Altavista.
Why in the hell should any story that is about a piece of software automatically include a complete recap of what's on the project web site? This is a news site, it's expected that not every single reader will want to view every single story, and that those who do want to view a story will possess at least a modicum of clue.
If not subject-specific clue, then at least the ability to type "www.google.com" into a web browser.
I've also read speculation that the E3 contained a "magnetic pulse" weapon, which may have been used to "discourage interception" by enemy fighters, and might have been a little TOO effective.
Yes, yes, and then there's the speculation (obviously not written by a pilot) that the Chinese pilot was attempting to spill fuel onto the EP3, and then set it off with his afterburners.
Before deciding if you want to give any creedence to speculation, you should ask a couple of questions, first of which would be:
1) Who would benefit from doing things that way?
The US wouldn't benefit from shooting down an intercepting Chinese jet unless that jet were going to fire, and if they were going to fire they'd have done so with a missle, not by playing lawn darts with an expensive airplane.
The odds are that the Chinese jet suddenly going down with complete electrical failure for no discernable reason would result in both an escalation of the crisis in progress, and some very unwanted attention after the fact, especially when the Chinese recovered their black box. If we have such a weapon (and I'm not speculating either way about that) the pilot would have to be a complete idiot to have used it in this situation.
This is especially ridiculous if you consider all the film of other similar events, which clearly show that the damn Chinese fly within meters of our airplanes every time they pull this crap, which is exactly WHY our pilots leave their planes on autopilot, so that an accidental flinch doesn't result in an international incident.
If you're ever kidnapped by aliens and forced to play this game in return for your life, figure out what the names of the two colors are, and assign "down" to the one that comes first alphabetically, such as "blue" in the standard example, and "up" to the other, "red" in the standard example.
Then when it's time to look at your fellow players, pick the one farthest to your right and look at his chest for down, or his hat for up. Point your whole face.
Then glance with your eyes at the others. If even one of them has read this post, you're in good shape. If they both have, you're free.
Unless the aliens are just shitting you, and intend to implant an 80-foot satellite dish in your ass regardless of the outcome.
While I agree that they're a bunch of incompetent idiots for not including security updates as part of the base service, both for customer goodwill and for the numerous problems that can arise from having hosts on your network that are script-kiddie-bait, I have to point out that people also should be free to sign contracts with incompetent idiots if they choose, and businesses should be free to contract to provide piss-poor service.
It's the nature of a free country and a free economy; people have to be free to pay other people to do stupid things, as long as those stupid things are what was agreed to.
The host didn't say in their contract that they would keep up the patches, so the customer's legitimate bitch is pretty narrow.
Next time, they should make sure this is included in the contract, and not do business with anybody who won't.
On other hand, you will *NOT* find a contract that assumes responsibility for keeping the systems secure; no company in their right mind would agree to that. What they will do is agree to keep up with the latest patches from the OS vendor in a timely manner. "In a timely manner" of course would be expected to be fought out in court after the fact.
Oh; and while I am a highly-paid information security professional with a Fortune 500 company, I am not now, nor have I ever been, an attorney.
Microsoft and said authority didn't think of this, and so they now have to come up with a totally kludgey patch which they promise won't break anything else.
Half right. VeriSign *DID* think of this, and followed the documented standard protocol to revoke the certificate.
Microsoft has chosen not to implement a protocol to accept those revocations. That isn't VeriSign's fault, that's 100% grade-a Redmond stupidity, stemming from the facts that:
1) Their security people come from a Windows world.
2) More importantly, their marketing people write checks the programmers can't cash.
Don't blame VeriSign for this, it weakens your case on all the other things you might choose to blame them for.:-)
This lowers Texas on the list of "states to move to" when my lease runs out.
Oh, please. They have an idiot in the state legislature. Are you going to exclude from consideration every state that has at least one idiot in their legislature?
You have to understand that this wasn't AOL's idea.
Some idiot lawmakers in the US passed a law making it illegal to store information about anybody under 13. Including, ironically, the fact that they're under 13.
The only way online services can protect themselves is to forbid anybody under 13 from using the service.
Although this is clearly a troll, I'll respond anyway, since I know you trolls hate serious responses because they show you screwed up and wrote a serious question.
RedHat's manual is chock full of instructions that include things for you to type at a shell prompt, and it comes with thousands of executables that aren't tied to anything in the GUI. Admittedly, you could access most of those by creating icons, but that's not so hot for the ones that require varying command line parameters.
So RedHat may be intended to minimize shell usage for everyday tasks, but it's neither intended nor suitable for completely ignoring the shells.
That's exactly MY point. This isn't about promoting Linux, it's about making money.
That's a good thing, I was just trying to pre-empt all the cheering from folks who don't realize that. They'll be the ones bitching later when SGI includes proprietary software with their systems, and starts selling proprietary programs for Linux, and suggests changes to the kernel that enhance their interests, and even when they hire somebody important who writes some program that is Open Source and that SGI feels needs work to be more palatable to businesses.
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Since then we've seen Videotex, X terminals, Diskless Workstations, Network Computers (aka thin clients), email stations, and Audrey, all failures.
You say failure, I say my last company has replaced all their dumb terminals with 'em, and my current one is rolling them out by the thousands.
Go ahead and judge technology by the desktop all you like; meanwhile, the real money will be spent in the corporations.
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I'd thought that Yahoo learned their lesson with all those French and German lawsuits about Nazi memorabilia.
Yes; they learned that in every country, there are idiots who are opposed to freedom, and who will use the courts to attempt to enforce their values upon everyone else.
Pornography is indistinguishable from rape.
If pornography is indistinguishable from rape for you, you have no concept of what either is. How can you sit there and trivialize the anguish and pain that women have had forced upon them by their attackers? What kind of unfeeling monster are you? Are you even a woman?
There is no such thing as consent in pornography, because every person involved is there because of dire economic need.
Explain Terry Weigel, then.
Hell, explain why multi-millionaires keep going back to Playboy to get more pictures taken.
The free market cannot thrive unless we police it for criminal activity such as this, just as it cannot thrive unless we police the market square for pickpockets.
The free market cannot thrive unless prudes like you keep their goddamn nose out of other people's bedrooms.
Even if those people choose to take a camera into their bedroom. If you don't like it, don't watch it. Nobody is forcing you to. (Another one of those pesky distinctions between porn and rape; bet you wish those would all go away, that'd sure help you make your stupid analogy.)
Yahoo must not be allowed to perpetuate this abomination against humanity.
In every country, there are idiots who are opposed to freedom, and who will use the courts to attempt to enforce their values upon everyone else. Yahoo already learned that lesson, remember?
Although your post is an obvious troll, it really should be moderated down as redundant. Go away.
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Does this remind anyone else (other than me) of the oft-failed concept of the network computer?
Those failures have all come in a relatively few years. It took a while for the automobile to take off, too.
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The only way in seems to be IMHO by cracking the DSLAM (concentrator) or by pinching my copper wire from the wall and do some jolly nice tricks with it.
Well, *IF* you're not running a firewall, there's supposedly some reflection attacks they can do off you, but if you're not running a firewall you're in way worse shape than just this vulnerability.
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one of the first things I did on my Cisco DSL router was to reset the exec and enable passwords.
This Alcatel really sucks if you can't even do that.
Oh, yeah; whereas Cisco never leaves wide-open back doors in their products.
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Oh my goodness, you HAVE to be a networking company, just to register in a hierarchy that is restricted to use by networking companies?
.org.br will be restricted to organizations, and .edu.br will be restricted to schools!
The nerve of some people. How can they get away with this?
Why, the next thing you know,
Clearly, it's time for all Brazilians who think like you to rise up and overthrow their oppressors. Let me know how the three of you make out.
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Actually, people do have a crisis related to Bonobos because we are related to Bonobos -- very closely related -- indeed more closely related than any other species.
So? I don't see us dying out because we wiped out Neanderthal, and they were a hell of a lot more closely related to us than the Bonobos.
If we wipe out the species most closely related to us, we'll use the one next most closely related.
Beside, the folks trying to protect the Bonobo want to OUTLAW doing any experiments on them, so your argument completely falls apart.
Oh, and BTW, we wiped out Neanderthal without any technology more than a generation more advanced than "stick, pointed, Mod 1 mark 0".
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Ok, go type in "bonobo gnome" like I suggested, and then come back here and tell what percentage of those links are about the primate.
I'll wait.
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Bonobos may have a crisis, but humans don't have a crisis related to Bonobos.
99% of all species that have ever existed are gone. Species would be dying out every day (statistically) even if Ogg had never discovered fire.
Evolution has chosen to experiment this time with an adaptation that allows a single species to fill many niches, even filling some of them with non-animals. If humans choose to employ nuclear weapons to win a war, that's no less natural than if a bird chooses to swallow a stone to grind it's food.
If we kill ourselves off, well, evolution is a harsh mistress sometimes. Get over it.
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Then perhaps you should use one of the 44,100 links at Google.
Or the 21,434 links at Altavista.
Or, try "bonobo gnome" and get 332 links at Google, and 21,462 links at Altavista.
Why in the hell should any story that is about a piece of software automatically include a complete recap of what's on the project web site? This is a news site, it's expected that not every single reader will want to view every single story, and that those who do want to view a story will possess at least a modicum of clue.
If not subject-specific clue, then at least the ability to type "www.google.com" into a web browser.
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I've also read speculation that the E3 contained a "magnetic pulse" weapon, which may have been used to "discourage interception" by enemy fighters, and might have been a little TOO effective.
Yes, yes, and then there's the speculation (obviously not written by a pilot) that the Chinese pilot was attempting to spill fuel onto the EP3, and then set it off with his afterburners.
Before deciding if you want to give any creedence to speculation, you should ask a couple of questions, first of which would be:
1) Who would benefit from doing things that way?
The US wouldn't benefit from shooting down an intercepting Chinese jet unless that jet were going to fire, and if they were going to fire they'd have done so with a missle, not by playing lawn darts with an expensive airplane.
The odds are that the Chinese jet suddenly going down with complete electrical failure for no discernable reason would result in both an escalation of the crisis in progress, and some very unwanted attention after the fact, especially when the Chinese recovered their black box. If we have such a weapon (and I'm not speculating either way about that) the pilot would have to be a complete idiot to have used it in this situation.
This is especially ridiculous if you consider all the film of other similar events, which clearly show that the damn Chinese fly within meters of our airplanes every time they pull this crap, which is exactly WHY our pilots leave their planes on autopilot, so that an accidental flinch doesn't result in an international incident.
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As author of the original post, I'd like to give you the recognition you deserve here, because the moderation system will surely miss it:
In my opinion, your response is funnier than my original post.
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If you're ever kidnapped by aliens and forced to play this game in return for your life, figure out what the names of the two colors are, and assign "down" to the one that comes first alphabetically, such as "blue" in the standard example, and "up" to the other, "red" in the standard example.
Then when it's time to look at your fellow players, pick the one farthest to your right and look at his chest for down, or his hat for up. Point your whole face.
Then glance with your eyes at the others. If even one of them has read this post, you're in good shape. If they both have, you're free.
Unless the aliens are just shitting you, and intend to implant an 80-foot satellite dish in your ass regardless of the outcome.
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While I agree that they're a bunch of incompetent idiots for not including security updates as part of the base service, both for customer goodwill and for the numerous problems that can arise from having hosts on your network that are script-kiddie-bait, I have to point out that people also should be free to sign contracts with incompetent idiots if they choose, and businesses should be free to contract to provide piss-poor service.
It's the nature of a free country and a free economy; people have to be free to pay other people to do stupid things, as long as those stupid things are what was agreed to.
The host didn't say in their contract that they would keep up the patches, so the customer's legitimate bitch is pretty narrow.
Next time, they should make sure this is included in the contract, and not do business with anybody who won't.
On other hand, you will *NOT* find a contract that assumes responsibility for keeping the systems secure; no company in their right mind would agree to that. What they will do is agree to keep up with the latest patches from the OS vendor in a timely manner. "In a timely manner" of course would be expected to be fought out in court after the fact.
Oh; and while I am a highly-paid information security professional with a Fortune 500 company, I am not now, nor have I ever been, an attorney.
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That's nice, but what if you have something ELSE in the other slot?
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The last episode of the 2nd season of Lexx, they destroy an entire universe, less three people (one of whom is dead) and a robot head.
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You should either stop getting your statistics from fantasy novels, or get a dictionary with a better definition of "half".
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Microsoft and said authority didn't think of this, and so they now have to come up with a totally kludgey patch which they promise won't break anything else.
:-)
Half right. VeriSign *DID* think of this, and followed the documented standard protocol to revoke the certificate.
Microsoft has chosen not to implement a protocol to accept those revocations. That isn't VeriSign's fault, that's 100% grade-a Redmond stupidity, stemming from the facts that:
1) Their security people come from a Windows world.
2) More importantly, their marketing people write checks the programmers can't cash.
Don't blame VeriSign for this, it weakens your case on all the other things you might choose to blame them for.
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This lowers Texas on the list of "states to move to" when my lease runs out.
Oh, please. They have an idiot in the state legislature. Are you going to exclude from consideration every state that has at least one idiot in their legislature?
If so, you're going to be living in Sealand.
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"Shinier shells and musical horns, but it's still propulsion via exploding dead reptiles." -- AC, on Slashdot
Wish I'd been in on that discussion. Petroleum doesn't come from dinosaurs. It comes from decayed algae and one-celled organisms.
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Canada probably doesn't spy on its allies.
The US passes it's information on to Canada, and the rest of our allies.
So if they aren't guilty by deed, they're certainly guilty by association.
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You have to understand that this wasn't AOL's idea.
Some idiot lawmakers in the US passed a law making it illegal to store information about anybody under 13. Including, ironically, the fact that they're under 13.
The only way online services can protect themselves is to forbid anybody under 13 from using the service.
The only thing Americans can do to fix this is vote for better lawmakers.
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Although this is clearly a troll, I'll respond anyway, since I know you trolls hate serious responses because they show you screwed up and wrote a serious question.
RedHat's manual is chock full of instructions that include things for you to type at a shell prompt, and it comes with thousands of executables that aren't tied to anything in the GUI. Admittedly, you could access most of those by creating icons, but that's not so hot for the ones that require varying command line parameters.
So RedHat may be intended to minimize shell usage for everyday tasks, but it's neither intended nor suitable for completely ignoring the shells.
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Oh, yeah? Read this.
Perhaps you should stop relying on the German news agencies for coverage of German government excesses.
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That's sort of the point.
A business exists to make money.
That's exactly MY point. This isn't about promoting Linux, it's about making money.
That's a good thing, I was just trying to pre-empt all the cheering from folks who don't realize that. They'll be the ones bitching later when SGI includes proprietary software with their systems, and starts selling proprietary programs for Linux, and suggests changes to the kernel that enhance their interests, and even when they hire somebody important who writes some program that is Open Source and that SGI feels needs work to be more palatable to businesses.
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