I wasn't talking about servers. I was talking about something like the XP-mode virtualization on the desktop versions of Windows 7 (Pro/Ultimate/Enterprise). Granted a desktop still likely has more horsepower than a tablet, but I wouldn't expect it to be unbearably slow.
I haven't had to play with it, but our desktop support folks say that the XP virtualization in Windows 7 is fairly seamless. If they did something like that for an ARM version to have backwards compatibility I could see it working out. I don't know if that's even feasible though, since I assume hardware virtualization is a pretty big leap from OS virtualization.
You used to get traffic actually visiting your site. That meant full page loads, but a lot of that is text which is low bandwidth. You now have less traffic (unique IPs hitting your site), but they're JUST downloading hi-res images which leads to a net increase in bandwidth.
Also, ads don't have to be shitty and annoying. Slashdot uses ads, and even though I can I don't turn them off because they're relatively passive. Hosting and bandwidth cost money, and a lot of sites rely on small ad revenue to help offset those costs.
Are you so sure about that? Adding up all the variables here, considering this is Valve, backed with Steam, using what seems to be stock(ish) hardware, and considering the work Valve's been putting into Big Picture and the Linux port, not to mention GabeN's vocal disdain of the direction Windows 8 is taking PCs, I wouldn't be surprised if this "console" really is just a simplified PC that just boots into Steam right away. I mean, moreso than other consoles.
That's true, but that doesn't mean that it'll be competing against PCs. It's being marketed as a device to hook up to your TV, likely in your living/rec room and will have controllers. THAT'S what is going to make it compete against consoles.
First off it won't be competing against PCs. It's going to be competing against consoles.
Secondly... why not? You realize that under the hood most consoles are just small form factor PCs right? Have a look at the hardware in an XBox 360 or a Playstation 3 and things will look familiar.
Then add in the fact that console gaming isn't necessarily about just horsepower (look at the Wii). This product will be jumping into the arena with a tried and true digital distribution system already in place, which is one of the bigger remaining speed bumps in the console market. From TFA they're also looking at having tiered hardware, which is going to appeal to a lot of people.
I'm not saying you're wrong to be skeptical, but saying that it's because it can't compete with something it's not really competing with... well to use the old car analogy it's like saying, "That Nissan Leaf has some great innovation, but I remain skeptical that it can really rival the advantage of the raw horsepower and versatility of the F-150."
I'm going to go with cost as a primary one. That better support you refer to comes with a pretty hefty premium. Also, most Linux folks I'm imagine aren't real fans of Apple's walled garden approach when it comes to... well everything. Macs may be a closer blood relative to Linux with it being basically BSD under the hood, but ideologically they're a LONG way off.
He wasn't implying it had anything to do with someone doing anything to their own machine. He was implying that Flame is a government intelligence tool and someone came up with a better way of making sure that's never proven.
"Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the universe is winning."
– Rich Cook
Programming != desktop support, but the premise still applies. Support will be needed as long as idiots are using computers.
Yes, that's why here in Canada where we have had government funded healthcare since the 60s I have to go get my lunch at Kentucky Steamed Rice & Vegetables...
No wait. This is the country where we have our fries covered in cheese and gravy.
Most EVs these days aren't 30' long and capable of comfortably seating 90 people. Not exactly an apples to apples comparison to look at the range on a city bus vs. a Nissan Leaf. Also, those 6 KM range buses were in service 58 years ago.
The concept is sound, but in practice the first time there's an emergency where something in the subset needs to be done and 2+ admins are required causing even a small delay, the PHBs will toss it out the window (and not be entirely wrong in doing so). There's always a trade off for greater security/accountability, and IMHO this will cross the line of what's acceptable to management often enough that it won't happen broadly.
Yeah, it's for Oracle that he does it. I didn't know it was needed. Although there's times where he's just checking on cron jobs and whatnot but still insists on using it, but it's likely that he's just gotten used to it like knarfling points out below.
X through SSH for server admin? Really? If someone asked for this on one of my boxes I wouldn't let them touch it with a 10 foot pole. Best car analogy I can come up with is a mechanic who doesn't know how to drive a stick well enough to put my car on the lift. Funnily enough we have a DBA who insists on using remote X sessions, then opens up the console in the X session to do his work and wonders why we have memory overhead issues.
Also, I used an old Treo 600 for on the run server admin using TuSSH back in 2003/4. No 802.11 on it which I found annoying at times (once it was available on other/newer smartphones), but GPRS was fine for SSH. Full keyboard, good enough display that I didn't feel limited by it. If 6-7 years later smartphones aren't at least as capable, something's very wrong.
Amazon deciding not to carry these books is not censorship any more than Taco Bell refusing to carry Coke products is. It just means if you want it, you have to get it from somewhere else.
So true. I'm glad my boss doesn't have that philosophy. Recently there was a bunch of work that needed to be done in ActionScript 3 for a project in another department and my boss came to me knowing that even though I'd never used the language, I'm a good programmer and I'd figure it out. Mind you, you'd have to at least be familiar with OOP, but that's not exactly new or trendy any more...
My boss was telling me the other week that he tried to convince his boss that the college's programmers should be able to work from home (regularly, we already do occasionally when there's a particular need). My first thought was, "Awesome. No pants."
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I wasn't talking about servers. I was talking about something like the XP-mode virtualization on the desktop versions of Windows 7 (Pro/Ultimate/Enterprise). Granted a desktop still likely has more horsepower than a tablet, but I wouldn't expect it to be unbearably slow.
I haven't had to play with it, but our desktop support folks say that the XP virtualization in Windows 7 is fairly seamless. If they did something like that for an ARM version to have backwards compatibility I could see it working out. I don't know if that's even feasible though, since I assume hardware virtualization is a pretty big leap from OS virtualization.
You used to get traffic actually visiting your site. That meant full page loads, but a lot of that is text which is low bandwidth. You now have less traffic (unique IPs hitting your site), but they're JUST downloading hi-res images which leads to a net increase in bandwidth.
Also, ads don't have to be shitty and annoying. Slashdot uses ads, and even though I can I don't turn them off because they're relatively passive. Hosting and bandwidth cost money, and a lot of sites rely on small ad revenue to help offset those costs.
If you even read the summary, let alone TFA you'll see:
"The search provides larger views of the images with direct links to the full-sized source image."
UEFI: Microsoft's way of giving you a UFIA
Are you so sure about that? Adding up all the variables here, considering this is Valve, backed with Steam, using what seems to be stock(ish) hardware, and considering the work Valve's been putting into Big Picture and the Linux port, not to mention GabeN's vocal disdain of the direction Windows 8 is taking PCs, I wouldn't be surprised if this "console" really is just a simplified PC that just boots into Steam right away. I mean, moreso than other consoles.
That's true, but that doesn't mean that it'll be competing against PCs. It's being marketed as a device to hook up to your TV, likely in your living/rec room and will have controllers. THAT'S what is going to make it compete against consoles.
At the risk of feeding the troll...
First off it won't be competing against PCs. It's going to be competing against consoles.
Secondly... why not? You realize that under the hood most consoles are just small form factor PCs right? Have a look at the hardware in an XBox 360 or a Playstation 3 and things will look familiar.
Then add in the fact that console gaming isn't necessarily about just horsepower (look at the Wii). This product will be jumping into the arena with a tried and true digital distribution system already in place, which is one of the bigger remaining speed bumps in the console market. From TFA they're also looking at having tiered hardware, which is going to appeal to a lot of people.
I'm not saying you're wrong to be skeptical, but saying that it's because it can't compete with something it's not really competing with... well to use the old car analogy it's like saying, "That Nissan Leaf has some great innovation, but I remain skeptical that it can really rival the advantage of the raw horsepower and versatility of the F-150."
Who?
Top. Men.
I'm going to go with cost as a primary one. That better support you refer to comes with a pretty hefty premium. Also, most Linux folks I'm imagine aren't real fans of Apple's walled garden approach when it comes to... well everything. Macs may be a closer blood relative to Linux with it being basically BSD under the hood, but ideologically they're a LONG way off.
Heh. A virus dead man's switch.
Bleh, sorry. The way the thread was set up it looked like your reply was to someone else.
He wasn't implying it had anything to do with someone doing anything to their own machine. He was implying that Flame is a government intelligence tool and someone came up with a better way of making sure that's never proven.
"Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the universe is winning."
– Rich Cook
Programming != desktop support, but the premise still applies. Support will be needed as long as idiots are using computers.
Yes, that's why here in Canada where we have had government funded healthcare since the 60s I have to go get my lunch at Kentucky Steamed Rice & Vegetables...
No wait. This is the country where we have our fries covered in cheese and gravy.
Most EVs these days aren't 30' long and capable of comfortably seating 90 people. Not exactly an apples to apples comparison to look at the range on a city bus vs. a Nissan Leaf. Also, those 6 KM range buses were in service 58 years ago.
I wonder why they bothered putting 10 000 911. "Roughly 10 million" probably would have been fine.
The concept is sound, but in practice the first time there's an emergency where something in the subset needs to be done and 2+ admins are required causing even a small delay, the PHBs will toss it out the window (and not be entirely wrong in doing so). There's always a trade off for greater security/accountability, and IMHO this will cross the line of what's acceptable to management often enough that it won't happen broadly.
Yeah, it's for Oracle that he does it. I didn't know it was needed. Although there's times where he's just checking on cron jobs and whatnot but still insists on using it, but it's likely that he's just gotten used to it like knarfling points out below.
X through SSH for server admin? Really? If someone asked for this on one of my boxes I wouldn't let them touch it with a 10 foot pole. Best car analogy I can come up with is a mechanic who doesn't know how to drive a stick well enough to put my car on the lift. Funnily enough we have a DBA who insists on using remote X sessions, then opens up the console in the X session to do his work and wonders why we have memory overhead issues.
Also, I used an old Treo 600 for on the run server admin using TuSSH back in 2003/4. No 802.11 on it which I found annoying at times (once it was available on other/newer smartphones), but GPRS was fine for SSH. Full keyboard, good enough display that I didn't feel limited by it. If 6-7 years later smartphones aren't at least as capable, something's very wrong.
Amazon deciding not to carry these books is not censorship any more than Taco Bell refusing to carry Coke products is. It just means if you want it, you have to get it from somewhere else.
So true. I'm glad my boss doesn't have that philosophy. Recently there was a bunch of work that needed to be done in ActionScript 3 for a project in another department and my boss came to me knowing that even though I'd never used the language, I'm a good programmer and I'd figure it out. Mind you, you'd have to at least be familiar with OOP, but that's not exactly new or trendy any more...
So, do they know where Anon's head office is yet?
Well, less than 7 proxies anyway.
I don't think I've ever heard white people stereotyped as great security auditors who aren't altruistic before. Wait... uh...
My boss was telling me the other week that he tried to convince his boss that the college's programmers should be able to work from home (regularly, we already do occasionally when there's a particular need). My first thought was, "Awesome. No pants."
Unfortunately it didn't fly.