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Smartphones For Text SSH Use Re-Revisited

Kainaw writes "This was asked in 2005 and 2008. I think it should be revisited yet again... With iPhone, Android, and Windows smartphones running around, which (if any) of them are well-suited to Unix/Linux server administration on the run? SSH is a must. A good screen resolution. A physical keyboard won't block the screen with a virtual keyboard. Many physical keyboards omit the numeric keys now, making the typing of numbers rather difficult. Nearly every smartphone has WiFi capability now. Some will do an X display through SSH tunnelling. So, pushing through all the bells and whistles that have nothing to do with effective server administration, what is left?"

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  1. i'm interested in an android app for ssh tunnellin by yincrash · · Score: 1

    i'm sure there out there, but the market is getting harder and harder to sort through. can anyone recommend a good one?

  2. The N900. by sethstorm · · Score: 5, Informative

    Hardware keyboard, ships with xterm, has easily accessible number keys, and no jailbreaking needed.

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    1. Re:The N900. by CRCulver · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I agree. I regularly use the N900 for SSH sessions with several servers. It runs Debian, so there's no much of a learning curve. There's a physical keyboard that you can easily remap for your own purposes.

    2. Re:The N900. by dsavi · · Score: 1

      Also agreed. I tried SSHing from a touchscreen keyboard and it took like 5 minutes just to get connected. I'm also very pleased with Nokia hardware keyboards in general. And then of course the n900 runs a Debian based distribution, can be overclocked to 900mhz, no jailbreaking and all the rest of it.

    3. Re:The N900. by nloop · · Score: 1

      A year ago I would have agreed, it was the first 800x400 resolution phone, runs a more familiar linux, root out of the box, I was a big fanboy! However, that phone is getting a bit long in the tooth now.

      The HTC G2 now is doing "4G" transfer speeds, has a much faster processor, way more ram, and lets be honest about the future of Android/marketplace vs maemo...

      Connectbot is a pretty nice terminal application free on the market. You don't need to "jailbreak" to do anything the post is talking about, but if you do decide to install cyanogenmod (way cool project) or whatnot rooting android phones has been simplified to a one-click process.

      I really did want to stay with Nokia but I haven't seen a compelling reason to in the past year!

    4. Re:The N900. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Absolutely, 100% agree -- it's perfect for this. I use ssh on this phone all the time to check the progress of various servers.

    5. Re:The N900. by DrogMan · · Score: 1

      I too am an N900 user... However after seeing my wifes HTC Desire, I suspect my mext phone might be the Desire with the keyboard... (HTC Vision) I've been a Nokia communicator user from day 1, but I think Nokia has somewhat lost the plot now - I miss the maps on my old N90 (the 3.5 year license expired!) and there isn't anything bundled with the N900 and it looks like there never will be. My wife seems to get on OK with Google maps on hers.... But it'll be a year or more before I'm ready for a new phone, so who knows what'll be out there then... G

    6. Re:The N900. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      +1 on this. I use SSH on my N900 on a daily basis. It's easily customizable too. If I want a tool on it, I build it. I've added python scripts that do stuff that I need on it and also ported some applications that I needed for it. Great little device. I really hope to see a Meego device that doesn't let me down.

    7. Re:The N900. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      for maps, voice navigation open source Mappero works very well for me :

      http://maemo.org/packages/view/maemo-mapper/

      Router is configurable (walk, car, bicylce etc.) also the used maps (openstreetmap, google etc)

      I can also conform that the N900 ist excellent for sysadmin work and even programming in the subway.

    8. Re:The N900. by Damnshock · · Score: 1

      Hardware keyboard, ships with xterm, has easily accessible number keys, and no jailbreaking needed.

      And you can connect to vpns...

      And has X so you can do X forwarding... (although I don't use this much)

      And it has cron...

      Well, it's a full linux computer on your hands! Do I need to say more?

      Regards

    9. Re:The N900. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I sort of agree with all the comments about the n900. On paper this is a great phone and for a mobile terminal, it's great. It does SSH, VNC over SSH and X11 forwarding without breaking a sweat.

      The problem comes from Nokia. They almost completely abandoned development on the platform just after launch leaving a whole trail of bugs and deficiencies. If you're looking for something good for terminal use AND a generally good phone for consumer-aimed things, you'll probably want something else.

      For a full list of my complaints against the N900, read this: http://thepcspy.com/read/my-n900-review/

    10. Re:The N900. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even calling Maemo Debian-based may be a stretch, but saying it runs Debian is definitely a factual inaccuracy. I can't name a more open cell-phone than the N900 that I would actually recommend (I think OpenMoko failed because the hardware lacked important features), but even so, it has almost nothing in common with Debian except for the package management system, so I think people who buy it should know exactly what they are getting. There's plenty of historical precedent at this point to help understand Nokia's future behaviour with respect to supporting the software on your device. They will release a few more OS updates, and then eventually they'll stop, but the closed OS components and the lack of an open build system accompanying the official releases will mean that there is no community supported N900 distribution to pick up the slack.

    11. Re:The N900. by E+IS+mC(Square) · · Score: 1

      While I agree for a desperate need of a decent map application N900, I didn't know Google Maps was a critical requirement for a system admin.

    12. Re:The N900. by bcmm · · Score: 2

      Also, nevermind hunting for a decent "ssh app" - it has OpenSSH. And it is indeed a proper Linux system, with all those little tools you'll eventually need when some server breaks, like dig and nmap and so on.

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    13. Re:The N900. by KiloByte · · Score: 4, Informative

      While n900 beats anything Droid in customizability, the default keymap is worse than abysmal. Please use for example mine, save it as /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/nokia_vndr/rx-51; the new assignments use Fn-Shift (or Fn where it's unused).

      Having no basic symbols like |, [, ], , {, }, % or ~, or keys like PgUp, PgDn or Esc makes any Unix administration or programming a bad joke. Having to request an on-screen keyboard for those is unacceptable -- it's not an iToy! Fortunately, we can fix it.

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    14. Re:The N900. by DrogMan · · Score: 1

      Maps aren't critical at all, however I just want to carry one device - not a separate GPS, phone, etc. If Nokia released OVI maps with turn by turn directions for the N900 then I'd be really happy.

    15. Re:The N900. by janeuner · · Score: 2

      Nokia N900

      Also, install an SSH server on the phone for extra awe.

    16. Re:The N900. by Bob+Loblaw · · Score: 1

      The N900 is the way to go just for its flexibility:
      - no complicated jail-breaking needed or fighting with upstream to keep control of your phone's internals
      - can install a full Openssh stack or the lighter Dropbear if you don't need all features
      - several VNC clients available
      - full non-crippled browser
      - custom kernel available enabling various networking and filesystem modules
      - great contact manager with great VOIP connectivity (gtalk/SIP/Skype all even though 3G)
      - recently available custom wireless driver that allows full security testing (packet injection, full moitor mode, etc.)
      - and many more ...

      While the N900 might be a bit too much of a power tool for someone looking for a simple phone that works well, it is ideal for a technical person with Linux knowledge that can really take advantage of the wide-open underlying Linux base.

      My only gripe with this phone is the battery life. You have to charge it every single day. Not a huge deal since it can charge from any USB port but still annoying on extended trips.

    17. Re:The N900. by melikamp · · Score: 1

      This. Just yesterday I augmented my N900 installation with sshfs and Gnumeric, so that now I can edit master copies of my ODS spreadsheets on the run.

    18. Re:The N900. by mm0zct · · Score: 1

      Glad to see this mentioned as I cannot imagine a more suitable device for the purpose asked.

      You don't realise how great it is to have what is effectively a linux computer, in your pocket at all times until you've owned one for a few months and realise how much you use it, or how much less you use the laptop/netbook

      Add a little chroot envoronment (easychroot package and a largish image download later) and you have a complete development toochain for the device, on the device!

      Obviously xterm and ssh (xterm being there by default and openssh (client and server) are avaiable in the repository, installable in a few taps to the screen.

      As has been already mentioned it runs a proper X server so X forwarding over ssh is a piece of cake, and the high resolution screen means it's actually useful.

      Did I mention it can play Quake3? :p

    19. Re:The N900. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My N900 shipped with Nokia/OVI Maps installed. And afaik there are some OSM-based tools too.

    20. Re:The N900. by IICV · · Score: 1

      I totally agree. To make it even better, you should remap the keys; there's a lot of unused modifier space on the keyboard. For instance, I have alt-backspace set to tab (for tab completion in a shell, natch) and shift-backspace set to Esc (for Vim, good luck using Emacs on such a tiny keyboard), alt- and shift- the various arrow keys set to things like brackets and pipes, and I've remapped the ./:/? button so that it has periods in alt-mode as well as normal mode (for entering decimal numbers in to Octave and R - I just turn on alt-lock and I can do numerical entry easily, since all the numbers are in alt-mode, as well as period and the various mathematical operators). It works really well, to the point where I've written small scripts while bored. Hell, half my Slashdot posts these days come from it, HTML formatting included! It's better than Angry Birds any day.

    21. Re:The N900. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Rimdroid? "Let's take all the good stuff out of Linux, and replace it with Java".

      Fucking Java.

      As *if*.

    22. Re:The N900. by Dun+Malg · · Score: 1

      I suspect my mext phone might be the Desire with the keyboard... (HTC Vision)

      I have a Desire Z/Vision. Works great with connectbot. My only complaint is the lack of a dedicated number row on the keyboard. I would have preferred the HTC TYTN2 style keyboard they had for it in the early mockup.

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    23. Re:The N900. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Either N900, which I use almost daily for SSH, or HTC Desire Z (T-Mobile G2) with ConnectBot would work. I found HTC's keyboard more ergonomic, and it has four rows instead of N900's three. But the N900 is much more straightforward solution in respect to software - plain openssh-client, downloadable bash (create your automated scripts), etc.

    24. Re:The N900. by AvitarX · · Score: 1

      I dont know how the keyboard compares to the n900, but the g1 has a fantastic physical keyboard. I am currently using a nexus one because overall it is a better phone, but the g1 keyboard was great. The g2 keyboard is only three rows, and the screen can encroach on the top row, but it does have diagonally arranged keys (unlike droid), spaced out keys (a semi rarity), and good feeling keypress (unlike all other keyboards I've touched, excepting the g1).

      Note, have tried mytouch slide, Droid, Samsung gravity, and a smattering of feature phones. Never an n900 though.

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    25. Re:The N900. by Pejorian · · Score: 1

      You can run full Debian on it. It is trivial to write a script that tunnels any kind of linux remote control app through SSH, like VNC or rdesktop...

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    26. Re:The N900. by gripen40k · · Score: 1

      I have a N900, runs OpenSSH client and server, so you could SSH into your phone from your server if you really wanted to be crazy.

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    27. Re:The N900. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...and supports OpenVPN too.

    28. Re:The N900. by HRH_H_Crab · · Score: 3, Informative

      Not Debian enough for you? Chroot it: http://wiki.maemo.org/Easy_Debian

    29. Re:The N900. by thre5her · · Score: 1

      As it is capable of running a terminal emulator and SSH, as well as running on devices with a physical keyboard, Android is suitable for the OP's needs. Java doesn't really figure into this.

    30. Re:The N900. by Skal+Tura · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Uhm, generally speaking you do not want to do any complex things or coding with your phone unless it's an emergency... In which case, as long as it can do it somewhat conveniently it's really OK.

      Anything requiring more than a few simple commands, i'll find a real computer.

    31. Re:The N900. by Skal+Tura · · Score: 1

      Speaking of need of "jailbreak", simple mention in connection is a fail imho, therefore android is a fail.

      N900 for me ty.

    32. Re:The N900. by element-o.p. · · Score: 2

      Absolutely. How can you find your way around the city hosting ${FavoriteITConference}, if you don't have a map application on your phone?

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    33. Re:The N900. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      with a map?

    34. Re:The N900. by papaia · · Score: 1

      +1 (or +n)!!! - absolutely the most network-security-sysadmin friendly smartphone. SSH client, Cisco compatible VPN client (try to do that reliably in Android!), nmap, metasploit, wireshark, etc - you name it - it's there ... I had this smartphone for over a year and the only drawback to it is lack of support for the so-called 4G in the T-Mobile market in the US.

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    35. Re:The N900. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The N900 also does "4G" (HSPA+, up to 10 Mb/s), and why give a fuck about "the future of Android/marketplace" when the apps for server administration are there already?

      You do have a point about hardware specs, but N900 has a real *n*x/X11 environment out-of-the-box; depends what matters most to you, but there's still plenty of room for the N900 in this role.

    36. Re:The N900. by hardaker · · Score: 1
      Agree completely. Being able to ssh out out-of-the-box is awesome. What's even better is being able to ssh in. Think rsync both directions! I frequently ssh into my phone when I've accidentally left in it the bedroom.

      But what really makes it great is that it's a full system. Yeah, typing code on a small keyboard is never fun but in a pinch when it's all you have, it's by far the best. When your phone has emacs, git, svn, ... it's almost equivalent to your desktop *except* for the smaller keyboard.

      [one of these days I want to hook up a bluetooth keyboard and see how a full day on it would be]

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    37. Re:The N900. by hardaker · · Score: 1

      Oh, and I forgot to add: the keyboard, being a real X based system, can be completely remapped at will. The ~ key, for example, doesn't exist by default so I added it to shift-up-arrow. Similarily, you can remove unused symbols and replace with better ones (eg, I never write about British currency but I do write with %s all the time).

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    38. Re:The N900. by KiloByte · · Score: 1

      It's not a fun thing to write on small keyboards, but I find it merely a notch worse than a laptop. Once you get below the comfortable size, the difference seems minor. And n900 can be held in a pocket rather than a car's trunk.

      Of course it's better to code at a desktop, it goes without saying.

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    39. Re:The N900. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      maps.google.com/maps/m should work reasonably well on the n900 including geolocation in both landscape and portrait....

    40. Re:The N900. by anomaly256 · · Score: 1

      +1 for the n900. Sure I might get 'the next best thing' when it comes out to become my new primary device - probably an android something-or-rather - but the n900 is surely the first phone I'll continue to hold on to until the day it dies. It's just so useful for the sysadmin stuff and there's no messing about with it's SDK env either. I've managed to put all my favorite apps on there, both commandline and X+gtk/Qt/tk/whatever, with just a simple recompile and no screwing about. I don't think even android is that convenient *yet*

    41. Re:The N900. by exomondo · · Score: 1

      but I find it merely a notch worse than a laptop. Once you get below the comfortable size, the difference seems minor. And n900 can be held in a pocket rather than a car's trunk.

      You do realise we have progressed quite some way past the Osborne 1.

    42. Re:The N900. by exomondo · · Score: 1

      It is hands-down the best phone (or mobile computer as they refer to it) out there for this purpose.

      A couple of things to note though:

      -Email client is slow and quite buggy
      -Application manager is horrendously slow (though cmd line junkies will just us that instead)
      -Resistive touchscreen (though you may prefer the stylus) this does mean no 'pinch-zoom', so you need to do the silly 'circle pattern', or use the volume keys and pan, this is a real pain in things like mapping apps
      -Keyboard is pretty mediocre, odd placement of keys (particularly spacebar), nowhere near as good as a blackberry keyboard
      -Battery life is average (for a smartphone like this) so you'll get about a day of normal use
      -General performance isn't exactly 'snappy', though through some tweaks you can make it significantly better
      -Not much support from Nokia

      Another plus though is that you can install and dualboot NITDroid and get access to all the Android goodness.

      In all for remote administration there is nothing better. I wouldn't recommend it as a general use smartphone but as a mobile computer you won't find anything better.

    43. Re:The N900. by FilthCatcher · · Score: 1

      The thing that blew my mind when I first started playing with my n900 is that you can not only ssh from your phone, you can also ssh into your phone. As root.

      Then you can start sys-admining your phone itself from your pc.
      For example, just install apps via apt-get.
      Type a command from a shell prompt your pc and you'll see the app appear on your phone screen.

      I very quickly got over using Nokia's OVI apps to sync my phone so now I just copy files to/from with scp. If that starts getting cumbersome I'll probably setup a few folders to auto-sync via rsync.

      Frankly, All new tech should be made this way.

    44. Re:The N900. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Have you tried recent PR 1.3 software update? It fixed lots of stuff.

  3. Re:i'm interested in an android app for ssh tunnel by cez · · Score: 4, Informative

    Not sure about android, but MidpSSH works wonders on my Blackberry, they probably have an android version. Used it just last night in a bind!

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  4. Tablet. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seriously. Just get an Android tablet.

  5. Physical Keyboard is a must... by taoboy · · Score: 1

    ...these screen keyboards are just not suited to the sort of typing required for command line. IMHO.

    I just got an Android 2.2 phone with wifi, ConnectBot seems to be the best ssh client so far.

    1. Re:Physical Keyboard is a must... by adavies42 · · Score: 1

      really? apart from the egregious mistake of not including a backtick on anything but one obscure email keyboard, i find the iphone screen keyboard much easier to use than my old blackberry was for ssh. are there phone hard keyboards out there that provide key punctuation (pipe, backtick, tilde, square/curly/angle brackets) in no more than two keypresses?

      actually (something like) graffiti is ideal imao, i played around with OnboardC on my palm back in the day and was able to add the full roster of C punctuation to my muscle memory quite quickly.

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    2. Re:Physical Keyboard is a must... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Try another keyboard. Full Keyboard has everything you'll need but can be cumbersome, there are graffiti-like keyboards, once you teach Swype the common commands it's acceptable in a terminal...

    3. Re:Physical Keyboard is a must... by mikael · · Score: 1

      Is it possible to connect a standard USB keyboard to the phone - most phones have a micro-USB connector, so I'm wondering if there is micro-USB/USB converter to allow this?

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    4. Re:Physical Keyboard is a must... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, it's a USB device not a USB host. But you can get Bluetooth keyboards without issue.

    5. Re:Physical Keyboard is a must... by thisisntme · · Score: 3, Informative

      really? apart from the egregious mistake of not including a backtick on anything but one obscure email keyboard

      Hold down the apostrophe key for a second or two, it pops up a number of different quotes, including the backtick.

    6. Re:Physical Keyboard is a must... by kiwix · · Score: 2

      are there phone hard keyboards out there that provide key punctuation (pipe, backtick, tilde, square/curly/angle brackets) in no more than two keypresses?

      If you go for a N900 you can reconfigure the keyboard any way you want with XKB. Using Fn+key and Shift+Fn+Key for different symbols you should be able to fit anything you need.

    7. Re:Physical Keyboard is a must... by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      You can use a Bluetooth keyboard with the Nokia 770, and therefore probably with the N900. There's a catch: the USB port is unpowered, so you need to hack something together with a battery to power the keyboard. You're better off with a bluetooth one. I use a ThinkOutside folding bluetooth keyboard, which is a beautiful piece of engineering and is, unfortunately, not made anymore. It fits into an inside jacket pocket, so I can take it and my 770 with me easily and go and work in a cafe somewhere.

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    8. Re:Physical Keyboard is a must... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      absolutely annoying to not have a ` or ~ available! I use those frequently!

    9. Re:Physical Keyboard is a must... by entrigant · · Score: 1

      The samsung moment and samsung epic with sprint have 4 row keyboards with |, `, ~, and all the brackets with a single modifier key, and the keyboard is the wide horizontal variety with very easy to feel buttons. It's a SSH machine :)

    10. Re:Physical Keyboard is a must... by slater.jay · · Score: 1

      are there phone hard keyboards out there that provide key punctuation (pipe, backtick, tilde, square/curly/angle brackets) in no more than two keypresses?

      The HTC Dream. It's old, but I'm hanging onto mine until another phone with a keyboard that good comes out.

    11. Re:Physical Keyboard is a must... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, on the N900 it is possible. Just use the standard charging cable and a gender changer and your USB keyboard and the program "HEN".

    12. Re:Physical Keyboard is a must... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You need the phone to work as a USB host - the Symbian^3 phones from Nokia (i.e. N8, C7, C6-01, E7) all support that I think. Certainly the N8 does - I've plugged a keyboard in to mine just to see that it worked.

    13. Re:Physical Keyboard is a must... by ncc74656 · · Score: 1

      Hold down the apostrophe key for a second or two, it pops up a number of different quotes, including the backtick.

      "5, Informative," please...was trying to do some stuff in TouchTerm recently and couldn't find ` no matter what I did.

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    14. Re:Physical Keyboard is a must... by A+nonymous+Coward · · Score: 1

      I would much rather have the soft keyboard than physical: it rotates with the phone, and you can get different languages and all the symbols you can think of.

      However, when using ConnectBot especially, it takes up so much of the screen that I can understand the allure of the physical keyboard. I did not believe reports of how awkward it was until I tried it. For texting, small file editing, most other apps -- soft keyboard is great. With a terminal, it sucks.

    15. Re:Physical Keyboard is a must... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Yes, on the N900 if you use the hostmode kernel mod the normal microUSB it comes with for connecting to your PC can be used in reverse with a female/female adaptor to connect any USB device. I've used it with a USB keyboard, and I've seen it used with a USB DVD drive to play movies.

    16. Re:Physical Keyboard is a must... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can't ever give up my Nokia E90 because it's got a decent keyboard with a proper pipe symbol on it. Also square brackets, tilde, both slashes etc. No backtick, but I never use it anyway, I prefer $() instead.

      I haven't found anything else on the market that's as good the E90, mine's about 3.5 years old now. No idea what I'll replace it with if it packs up.

    17. Re:Physical Keyboard is a must... by quantumphaze · · Score: 1

      Does anyone know where to find decent Bluetooth keyboards? It would make the N900 so much better for typing stuff up on. I find my thumbs get sore after a while.

    18. Re:Physical Keyboard is a must... by Ed+Avis · · Score: 1

      The new-style way of capturing output in the shell is as $(whatever) instead of `whatever`. This has the advantage that you can nest it.

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  6. Re:i'm interested in an android app for ssh tunnel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Search for ConnectBot, there are also a few enhanced versions out there but I haven't found many that are all that useful.

  7. Re:Verbs useful by Pojut · · Score: 0

    And I'll form the head! Even though I started a sentence with the word "and"!

  8. NOKIA N900 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Full Linux (either Maemo based on Debian or MeeGo based on Fedora), xterm - ability to run whatever you need from the command line, no problem having 32 windows running in parallel in a preemptive multitasking, you can compile with gcc/java straight on the phone, solid keyboard - a geek's dream I would say.

    1. Re:NOKIA N900 by rjstanford · · Score: 1

      Why not a decent laptop, for when you need 32 xterms running at once (if you ever do), and an adequate phone for the very few times that you need one or two xterms but don't have your laptop/netbook/whatever with you?

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    2. Re:Nokia n900 by knewter · · Score: 2

      I can back this up. Here's my post I typed up before seeing this one:

      I use a Nokia N900 and do this constantly. It comes preconfigured such that ctrl+shift+x starts an x term. I then just ssh in. I have a fairly fancy-pants password that uses various symbols, and it's easy to type it in with this phone. I can use vim comfortably on the phone (this was a problem with the android ssh tool i used because it didn't have an easily-accessible 'esc' key.)

      The N900 runs debian. I can't imagine needing to say more.

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    3. Re:Nokia n900 by box4831 · · Score: 1

      A cool feature of the xterm is it puts Ctrl, Tab, Esc, PgUp, and PgDn on-screen to work with the physical keyboard

      Even better is that this onscreen keys bar is customizable so you can add additional useful keys. For instance, I put the | and / characters on there as they are frequently used and kind of a pain to type normally.

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    4. Re:Nokia n900 by gstoddart · · Score: 1

      It runs real Linux with real root (out of the box). It has a real xterm and bash is installable. It runs xorg. It's a fantastic phone.

      Can you place calls with it? :-P

      I continue to be astounded at the stuff you kids do with your phones nowadays. On behalf of those of us who remember this big bakelite phones screwed to the kitchen wall with 15 feet of twisted up cord and a rotary dial ... WTF? Xorg on a phone?? Really??

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    5. Re:NOKIA N900 by dovgr · · Score: 1
      I can second this. In addition you can easily:
      • Run scripts on the phone in a standard linux environment (bash, sed, awk, perl, python, tcl, grep, etc).
      • You can ssh into the phone.
      • You have vnc support so if your server has some gui program you can access it via ssh+vnc port forwarding.
      • You can run git on the phone so you can easily sync your utility scripts.
      • You can install input methods for accessing any keyboard keys.

      So, I absolutely agree, this is a sysops portable dream.

    6. Re:Nokia n900 by parim · · Score: 1

      Yes it can make calls/SMS and everything a normal phone can do. It is a phone that runs on a debian derivative

    7. Re:Nokia n900 by box4831 · · Score: 1
      Except MMS, which is strange, since even the cheap-o basic phones with a camera can send/receive MMS.

      [Developers at project planning meeting] So what should we include on our n900 product?
      • SSH? Yes!
      • Xterm? Yes!
      • vim? Yes!
      • full linux OS? Yes!
      • Phone and SMS? Yes!
      • MMS? HERESY! BUURRN HIM

      (im aware of fMMS, but I think that MMS should have been included)

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    8. Re:Nokia n900 by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1, Redundant
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    9. Re:Nokia n900 by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

      Oh I see you do know about fMMS, and I agree it should have been included, but it's no big deal.

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    10. Re:NOKIA N900 by present_arms · · Score: 1

      I use my N900 for SSH in to my home and work machines, even with X forwarding (using -CX) i've also installed easy debian on it. it just works, oh and it has a slide out keyboard and with the power kernel (in maemo) installed u can overclock the poor arm to 1150Mhz from the stock 600, it flies, although i limit mine to 900. ok enough bragging :P i'm pretty sure there is ssh on the droid too but i'll need to investigate more, meego when released (i know, i know) should have it too :D anyway all the best with your en-devour, Alie

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    11. Re:Nokia n900 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Have an n900 too. It simply is the one and only usable _linux_ phone out there. Android, for all I know, could just as well be based on WindowsCE as far as the app layer is concerned but the n900 runs a real linux with an X Server and a GTK UI.

      Add a few repositories and you can, besides all the small linux goodies, run stuff like the aircrack suite, wireshark, or even a full debian armel chroot on it. No rooting required. xterm is preinstalled and you have your apt-get etc..

      Battery only lasts 1-2 days. But I guess that's true for most of the high-end phones these days.

      Simply put: If you want a linux based phone with free software that actually works (I'm looking at you freerunner etc.) there's no alternative.

    12. Re:Nokia n900 by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      Xorg on a phone?? Really??

      No, not really. Xorg on a handheld computer. A phone dialling app on the same computer.

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    13. Re:Nokia n900 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes you can make calls, but those tend to cost money (us kids don't have any of that).

      You can also make SIP, Skype, and GoogleTalk calls (out of the box). Plus there are add-ons for GoogleVoice and various others.

      It's /probably/ possible to write an app to give you a proper rotary dial, but I've never seen one. The phone buttons are themeable (from the box themes, pick Digital Nature over the default Nseries).

      The phone is built on http://telepathy.freedesktop.org

    14. Re:NOKIA N900 by gmuslera · · Score: 1

      Not Rincewind to carry around an smart luggage. By now is almost a must to carry a cellphone, but you can decide to not carry a notebook always, at least, not everywhere or in every situation.

    15. Re:Nokia n900 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yes I can remember those bakelite phones and netherteless find a fully open linux (debian) mini computer with phone capabilties very usefull for all kind of tasks.

    16. Re:Nokia n900 by gstoddart · · Score: 1

      No, not really. Xorg on a handheld computer. A phone dialling app on the same computer.

      See, I don't want a hand-held computer -- I want a phone. :-P

      Partly because I'm unwilling to shell out the $$ for a smartphone (I already pay enough for my two land-lines, two cell phones, TV and internet) ... and partly because a lot of things people do with phones nowadays simply doesn't interest me.

      I don't text, use Facebook, or Twitter. I have no interest in reading my email on my phone. Heck, I don't even play games on my phone. Receive calls, place calls, check voicemail -- that's about it.

      I know I'm in a vanishing minority of tech people (or, people in general apparently) who just don't "get" the whole smartphone thing. For me, it's just not a set of features that I want. The idea of running X on my phone is kind of a big WTF for me. :-P

      When I'm away from my desk, I prefer to be away ... not tethered for life to something like a Blackberry that I can't go 30 seconds without looking at it. Life it just too damned short.

      I'm sure I'll be last in line for the neural shunt when it becomes available too.

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    17. Re:Nokia n900 by melikamp · · Score: 1

      Yes, this phone... Er, computer, is freaking awesome. Some SSs:

      picture browser

      /. in firefox

      application switcher

      X terminal

      Escape Meta Alt Control Shift

      conky

    18. Re:Nokia n900 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      See, I don't want a hand-held computer -- I want a phone.

      I have no interest in reading my email on my phone. [...] Receive calls, place calls, check voicemail -- that's about it.

      Then why are you reading an article about doing something on a phone that you don't want them to do?

    19. Re:Nokia n900 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, you can place calls on it. You can even call using Skype or SIP using the standard interface.

      I do scripting on my N900 during long flights when I'm bored with Battle for Wesnoth and Angry Birds, using vim and Python. Good times.

    20. Re:Nokia n900 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I want to add that this phone also runs vncviewer, which is what I use within a SSH tunnel when not using "screen". Yes, it is a little weird to scroll around on the screen cause the cell's resolution is so small, but when you need to do something real quick in a window, this works.

    21. Re:Nokia n900 by rad_chad · · Score: 1

      Not that there is anything wrong with only wanting a mobile to make calls, but it is pretty easy to find the value in having a smart phone. In my pocket I have access to the entire internet. I can research anything at any time. For an inquisitive person (or anyone that likes to argue) it is a great tool and helps you learn. I can hold my phone up to a speaker and learn what a song is. I can listen to music, read a book, play a game, make a shopping list that I probably won't lose or leave at home. At work, my little radio won't pick up NPR at times, so I stream the local station through my phone.

      It is expensive, but it is rather life changing to have access to the internet at any given time. Being able to do that on the same device as my phone is just a plus. My emails come to my phone as well, but I don't have to look at them right away. It is what you make of it.

    22. Re:Nokia n900 by gstoddart · · Score: 1

      Not that there is anything wrong with only wanting a mobile to make calls, but it is pretty easy to find the value in having a smart phone.

      Oh, I am somewhat intrigued with some of the things you can do with smartphones. I've seen people checking in at the airport with their screen showing the barcode of their boarding pass -- that was kinda cool.

      But, for both my wife and I to get smartphones would add at least $100/month to our already large cable/internet/phone/cell bill -- I know someone who says his smart phone costs him around $200/month. Until data plans become more reasonable, I'll hold off for now.

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    23. Re:Nokia n900 by forkazoo · · Score: 1

      Can you place calls with it? :-P

      I continue to be astounded at the stuff you kids do with your phones nowadays. On behalf of those of us who remember this big bakelite phones screwed to the kitchen wall with 15 feet of twisted up cord and a rotary dial ... WTF? Xorg on a phone?? Really??

      Yes, you can make calls with it. Including calls over Skype, and Google chat, etc.

      As for Xorg on a phone, I think it's more reasonable than a lot of people realise. I know it's traditional to have some strange hacked together proprietary framebuffer interface on a phone, but you really don't get anything from it. Considering old UNIX workstations running X11 had 40 MHz processors and 16 MB of RAM, claiming that a modern cell phone can't use X11 because it would be too heavy seems like an awkward argument with > 10x the power and resources available. OTOH, you get to use an existing, mature software stack that a lot of people already know how to make fast, and how to use efficiently. If it makes you feel any better, you only get OpenGLES on the phone, so applications which use full OpenGL won't work when forwarded.

      Heck, if the idea of being able to do server admin with X11 forwarding over SSH bothers you that much, just install web server software on the phone itself and use it as the server, and ssh into it from your laptop to do the admin. Yes, it actually works just fine. (Though you can only serve over Wifi - your service provider almost certainly won't route data to your phone's public cellular IP to use it as a server over that connection.)

    24. Re:Nokia n900 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sadly, the N900 is to be discontinued.

    25. Re:Nokia n900 by scruffy · · Score: 1

      But, for both my wife and I to get smartphones would add at least $100/month to our already large cable/internet/phone/cell bill -- I know someone who says his smart phone costs him around $200/month. Until data plans become more reasonable, I'll hold off for now.

      Yes, the data plans are expensive, but if you can live with depending on wi-fi for your internet needs, you can use a pre-paid plan (or any non-smart-phone plan) for your N900. I use TMobile prepaid. I don't talk or text more than the $100+tax/year.

    26. Re:Nokia n900 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      However, it doesn't have separate number keys which can be a pain if you're typing a lot of numbers

      If you find yourself having to type lots of numbers, press the blue function key twice quickly. Function lock is now on and you can now type numbers without having to FnShift evey keypress (or holding each key for longer to get the function).

      Posted from my N900 :-)

    27. Re:Nokia n900 by ras · · Score: 1

      However, it doesn't have separate number keys which can be a pain if you're typing a lot of numbers.

      This is what amazed me with the N900 and its predecessors. It is a highly specialised phone. It looks more like a trial run for the technology in fact, with no real attempt to make it appealing to the mass market. Nonetheless, even without the pretties that technology made it highly appealing to a particular group - 'nix user who dutifully started churning out apps for it. And what killer hardware feature does a every 'nix user want? A really good 5 row keyboard. We type a lot into really finicky programs like vi, were one mistake can kill an entire file. We happily bought them without a GPS, and without a phone in fact. But geezz, I'd kill for a good keyboard on the thing, and I gather everybody else would as well.

      And now it looks like the N9 won't have one either. It will get the pretties, but still won't have 5 row keyboard. What are you thinking, Nokia?

    28. Re:Nokia n900 by quantumphaze · · Score: 1

      But, for both my wife and I to get smartphones would add at least $100/month to our already large cable/internet/phone/cell bill -- I know someone who says his smart phone costs him around $200/month.

      :-o The phone plans in the US sound like consumer rape.

      I bought my N900 for about $440AUD including shipping and taxes. Americans get even better with Amazon selling it for $350USD. This phone is unlocked so you can use any GSM SIM you feel like and you will be able to make phone calls. Other things like 3G you have to check yourself if the provider would work. Stick your old SIM in or get pre-paid, etc.

      I pay $1 a month on a pay-as-you-go plan, no contract, no """free""" handset thay you won't use. 9.9c/min to local/mobile + 10c flag-fall, 9.9c SMS. It comes with 50MB free data (for emergencies when wlan isn't there) but is then 2.75c/meg. (You have to pay $20 for a SIM and $20 deposit before but it is worth it)

      I never use my N900 for phone things if I can avoid it, so the compulsory $1 is sometimes greater than the calls I make.

      I treat the N900 as a handheld computer that has a phone app as a bonus. I no longer have to take my laptop everywhere with me (though I tend to anyway)

    29. Re:Nokia n900 by tqk · · Score: 1

      See, I don't want a hand-held computer -- I want a phone.

      I have no interest in reading my email on my phone. [...] Receive calls, place calls, check voicemail -- that's about it.

      Then why are you reading an article about doing something on a phone that you don't want them to do?

      To try to understand why the fsck you guys want to, ffs! Surf the web, ssh -X, on a cell phone?!? I'm with him. I think that's nuts. Yeah, an N900 Linux box I can carry in my pocket sounds very cool, but geez, I've seen a web browser on my ancient (2008) Nokia 3500, and if anything you're seeing looks anything like that, well, you've all lost it.

      Much less, I shudder to think what a 4G monthly phone bill in the US looks like. Or are your managers paying the bills? That strikes me as even nuttier, on their part.

      Sysadmin used to be you got called at 0300h when something broke, and you went in/telnetted in/ssh'd in and fixed it. ssh -X on a cellphone?!?

      Just seeing the contortions you guys go through to make backticks and tildes work makes me wonder how many months you wasted figuring that bit out. You could have been doing something useful/valuable instead.

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    30. Re:Nokia n900 by Descalzo · · Score: 1

      I wasted 0.000004 months figuring that out. I was about to waste 0.000009 more months figuring out what I could have done with 10 seconds that could have been so much more useful, but I'm burning daylight.

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    31. Re:Nokia n900 by tqk · · Score: 1

      Just seeing the contortions you guys go through to make backticks and tildes work makes me wonder how many months you wasted figuring that bit out. You could have been doing something useful/valuable instead.

      I wasted 0.000004 months figuring that out.

      You'd have saved that time by learning better scripting skills. Backticks have been deprecated for a long time (ambiguous nesting - use $(blah) instead), and I don't know where you'd NEED to use a tilde (bare "cd" takes you $HOME).

      I also wish you people would learn to use blockquote.

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    32. Re:Nokia n900 by Descalzo · · Score: 1

      Just seeing the contortions you guys go through to make backticks and tildes work makes me wonder how many months you wasted figuring that bit out. You could have been doing something useful/valuable instead.

      I wasted 0.000004 months figuring that out.

      You'd have saved that time by learning better scripting skills. Backticks have been deprecated for a long time (ambiguous nesting - use $(blah) instead), and I don't know where you'd NEED to use a tilde (bare "cd" takes you $HOME).

      I also wish you people would learn to use blockquote.

      Does it really only take 0.000004 months to learn better scripting skills? I guess it might, for all I know. I haven't written a line of code in many, many moons. And notice how I learned how to use blockquote! Another 0.000004 months put to good use!

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  9. Re:i'm interested in an android app for ssh tunnel by tom17 · · Score: 4, Informative

    I second this. I have been using ConnectBot and it works great on my HTC Desire. Just don;t leave connections running in the background... it drinks battery like it's going out of style when you do that.

  10. Palm Pre (or Pre2) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Webos (Palm's phone OS) has an incredible homebrew community. You have to "root" the phone but all that required is downloading a single program on your computer or the (free) Palm SDK.

    Then you can get a full terminal (not just ssh), although the screen is pretty small and therefore it's not that easy to see large console output, but I think that would be true of any smartphone. Here is a link describing the terminal app I use:
    http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Application:Terminal

    1. Re:Palm Pre (or Pre2) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I love my pre, but it doesn't have the full keyboard, which the poster mentioned as being a problem. Annoying, it wouldn't have been that hard for them to have fit in another row of keys.

    2. Re:Palm Pre (or Pre2) by billbaird · · Score: 0

      +1 for Pre, I use the homebrew app "Terminal" all the time. Screen is a little small, but does the job.

      No "rooting" is required, just enabling "developer mode" which is supported by Palm.

    3. Re:Palm Pre (or Pre2) by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      I'm really tempted by a Pre, but from what I can see there is no SIP client other than a command-line thing. I use SIP via WiFi to make calls from my (old and crappy) N80 most of the time, because it's cheaper than going over the mobile network, so I wouldn't want to lose this feature in a new phone. I don't suppose there's one hidden somewhere that I couldn't find?

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    4. Re:Palm Pre (or Pre2) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I haven't investigated SIP options; but my Pre is *great* for SSH and X forwarding. I haven't tried VNC, but there are at least three options for that. Other people are suggesting the N900 are on to something too; everything else being suggested seems like a bit of a compromise. If you can wait a bit, I'd suggest waiting to see what HP has to announce in early February.

  11. If you run a blackberry check out BBSSH! by HIghoS · · Score: 5, Informative

    http://bbssh.org/wiki/en/Home

    The author just released 2.0 with huge improvements. I've been using it for nearly half a year now, previously on a Storm and now on a Torch. It's great, it even works well with things like screen and irssi. It's great being able to login to my servers remotely anywhere, check screen sessions and even if I want to hop on IRC if need be! For those familiar with MidpSSH this is basicly it on steriods, but done properly.

    1. Re:If you run a blackberry check out BBSSH! by epiphani · · Score: 1

      This. Additionally, with a BES you have an always-available vpn-like tunnel through to your internal network. BBSSH saves me so much time its not even funny.

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    2. Re:If you run a blackberry check out BBSSH! by sys_mast · · Score: 1

      Yes, just make sure to get a blackberry with a big physical keyboard, some keyboards are getting small (which = hard to use for ssh) With a BES it's hard to beat for SSH. I guess you won't get X directly....but the time's i've gotten a desktop on sub-7" screen, it wasn't worth it.

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    3. Re:If you run a blackberry check out BBSSH! by hterag · · Score: 1

      I agree, just started using bbsh and its great.

      I am lumbered with a BB torch, now. One of thos annoying BBs with a small and recessed keyboard and I am about 2 hours away from switching back to my Bold 9000.

      The vpn into the BES network is excellent for sysadmins allows access to internal URLs too so I can get to my nagios/cacti/RT interfaces as well as those for the networking kit and anything else with a webui
      I can do a decent amount of troubleshooting and repairs from my BB and if I can't fix it with it I know what I have to fo by the time I get to my PC or into the office.

      Even with the hours of wasted time talking to the Telco when they screw up the BES plan every 6-12 months (Optus) these have saved me countless hours and trips into the office.

  12. Moto Cliq is OK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have a Motorola Cliq (Android 2.1, keyboard) and while I can SSH with the app 'ConnectBot', using passwords with special characters or typing in the pipe symbol | and other symbols is very difficult. They keyboard acts differently in this app than in other apps, and I've had my most success with writing out commands in other apps and copy/pasting them into ConnectBot.

  13. N97/N97 mini with PuTTy for Symbian by CoolVibe · · Score: 3, Informative

    ...and specifically the touch UI one for Symbian S60v5. It's PuTTy. Oh, you want an URL with that... Try http://bd.kicks-ass.net/koodaus/putty/

    1. Re:N97/N97 mini with PuTTy for Symbian by s0litaire · · Score: 1

      If it's a quick fix or check i use my Desire HD with ConnectBot

      but i've a backup cheepo Nokia E63. it's keyboard and PuTTy makes it easier for longer use...

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    2. Re:N97/N97 mini with PuTTy for Symbian by jijitus · · Score: 0

      Also using PuTTY but on my Nokia 5800. Wonderful, but obviously not for extended periods of time as it lacks a physical keyboard.

  14. ConnectBot on android by crisper · · Score: 1

    ConnectBot has worked well for me...and never had any issues with it.

    http://code.google.com/p/connectbot/

    1. Re:ConnectBot on android by dj.delorie · · Score: 1

      I use connectbot on my droid2 - physical keyboard, wifi/cell (802.11n WPA2 on my home network), ssh, and alt-lock for number-heavy strings. Slide it closed and you still get an on-screen keyboard for quickies. Connectbot can set up a tunnel too, so add AndChat for IRC through the tunnel.

    2. Re:ConnectBot on android by isleshocky77 · · Score: 1
      I've been using connectBot with my DROID almost since it came out. And quite frequently as well. Has all the functionality I need including autocomplete, ctrl keys, tabs, etc.

      Slide it closed and you still get an on-screen keyboard for quickies.

      Did you have to do anything special to get the on-screen keyboard for the droid 2; I've never been able to use the on-screen keyboard on my droid 1.

    3. Re:ConnectBot on android by hcsteve · · Score: 1

      Grab the latest dev version of ConnectBot from their Google Code page. It enables the tab key on the hardware keyboard on the Droid 2. Hooray for tab-completion!

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  15. Nokia n900 by Theolojin · · Score: 5, Informative

    It runs real Linux with real root (out of the box). It has a real xterm and bash is installable. It runs xorg. It's a fantastic phone. However, it doesn't have separate number keys which can be a pain if you're typing a lot of numbers. A cool feature of the xterm is it puts Ctrl, Tab, Esc, PgUp, and PgDn on-screen to work with the physical keyboard. It's great for remote server administration. I wouldn't want to work on it all day, but it's not meant for that, either.

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  16. HTC MyTouch 3G Slide works OK by rwa2 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm fairly happy with my cheap-ass HTC Slide running CyanogenMOD . You can get them for about half the price of the big expensive Android phones.
    http://trumblings.blogspot.com/2010/11/migrating-to-android-for-palm-linux.html

    Keyboard pic

    The ConnectBot SSH client can do port forwarding, so you can set up a secure tunnel for androidVNC (which is probably better than X forwarding as far as maintaining persistent sessions across mobile networks go). The phone supports T-mobile HSDPA network, which can give you noticeably lower latency than EDGE / GPRS, and near-DSL speeds. Your ssh sessions stay connected in the background until you tell them to disconnect, and the keyboard is pretty comfortable to use.

    Some random notes:

    • + Terminal with default font is 80x25!
    • + the trackpad button is the Ctrl key, hitting it twice sends the Esc key. Works great with screen.
    • - no cursor buttons, and the trackpad can be quite finicky when trying to send several l/r u/d
    • - the HTC Slide uses the older ARMv6 cpu, so no 3D-intensive apps like Google Earth Mobile or high-end games. Other than that, it runs everything fine
    • - sending some special characters in ConnectBot can be a chore, such as pipes and < > ... need to call up the softkeyboard for those, by first closing the physical keyboard, tapping on the softkeyboard icon, then calling up the "num" then "alt" keyboard :-/ . Probably better to make aliases for your often-used command strings. But that's something that could be remedied in software, hopefully... ConnectBot doesn't appear to use the physical Symbol key well.
    1. Re:HTC MyTouch 3G Slide works OK by Dr.Dubious+DDQ · · Score: 1

      Same setup (CyanogenMod+3G Slide) on my phone, plus I've noticed that there's ssh/scp (from dropbear, I think) pre-installed and available from within the terminal, along with netcat, which is nice when I'm more worried about performance than privacy/security (e.g. transferring files between a computer on my LAN and my phone).

      The keyboard's a little awkward (requiring a couple of extra clicks to get to "|" and so on) but otherwise I'm pretty pleased.

      I heard rumors that Gingerbread would support bluetooth keyboards. If that's true (I've seen no confirmation) that would be a nice option.

    2. Re:HTC MyTouch 3G Slide works OK by zhub · · Score: 1
      Wait, your pipe key works in ConnectBot?

      Mine seems to be recognized as if it were escaped.

      e.g.
      $ ls | more
      ls: |: No such file or directory
      ls: more: No such file or directory

      From the virtual keyboard, I'm pressing 12# -> 1/2 -> |

      Also, It's a pity I can't reprogram one of those blank alt keys with ":wq".

    3. Re:HTC MyTouch 3G Slide works OK by rwa2 · · Score: 1

      Hmm, no, just hit the "Num", then the "Alt" on the ConnectBot virtual keyboard (I think it's new for v1.7.1, it appears in the bottom right of the screen) and then all the special keys pop up.

      Hey, at least you're not using emacs... though it's actually surprisingly easy to triple-click the thumbpad to send Ctrl-Meta (well, actually Esc-Ctrl-) for some of those keyboard-kungfu sequences :P

      But yeah, ConnectBot needs some kind of macro support. Or voice recognition >:-D

    4. Re:HTC MyTouch 3G Slide works OK by nakedbonzai · · Score: 2

      I switched to irssi connectbot because of other keys, such as pipe , etc. With irssi connectbot, you can long press the screen, which pops up with pipe . This saves at least 4 taps and 5 seconds by not using the soft keyboard.

  17. I would recommend Connectbot on Android by laughingcoyote · · Score: 1

    I've found Connectbot on Android to work quite well. Far as the typing goes, screen and keyboard size are always going to be an issue for commandline on a smartphone. If you need to do serious work, you need to bring your laptop along (and if you're often away from wifi when the need arises, consider a cell broadband card or tethering of your smartphone). But if you just need to check on something or run a script real quick, Connectbot will do the job just fine.

    The physical keyboard on the phone is nice, I'm quite agreed that I wouldn't want to use up half my already limited screen with a virtual keyboard.

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    1. Re:I would recommend Connectbot on Android by grayn0de · · Score: 1
      I second this... If you have an Android phone and are technically inclined, chances are you already have it. You do not need a "real" Linux and root to use ssh. All you need is a terminal emulator and ssh client capabilities. ConnectBot (as well as others) has exactly that. With today's smartphones, there's an app (or 50) for everything, so that is a matter of preference.

      All that is left is hardware. You don't need an uberninja-speed phone to open an ssh tunnel. Hell, my old G1 did this quite nicely. So you are left with the physical keyboard, as virtual keyboards really DO suck when used for too much more that a quck SMS or microblog post. As long as your physical keyboard is decent and you know how to use tha Alt/Fn keys, then you are good to go.

  18. ConnectBot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ConnectBot SSH client has good terminal emulation and sensible keyboard bindings and has been working great on my G1.

    1. Re:ConnectBot by laxpeter · · Score: 1

      The G1 keyboard is great. All the symbols I need are on the keyboard (including pipe and backtick), the numbers don't require modifiers, and both modifiers (shift and alt for symbols) are on each side of the keyboard. I've been hoping for a newer phone to have a keyboard like this, but I just haven't found anything close.

  19. Note to "Smartphone" android and fanboyz by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nokia N900 for ages and if you don't need GSM/3G, N770/800/810 .... been doing this for years.

    Even had terminal capability under Symbian for even longer....

    Somewhat of a non-topic really...come on, please, this isn't some 2005/2008 thing that only iFanBoyAndrod phones can do, but its something that a lot of people have been doing for a very long time, long before any of these fashionable "smart phones" came out.

    hell, I even used to drive an MVS session over GPRS using web services and some sublime hacking in Perl (is there nothing it can't do?) on a PC, from my Nokia 7250 (this banana phone with a camera)....it was a bit slow on the GPRS side of things but nothing beats the feeling of driving a mainframe from your phone :-)

  20. I use iSSH almost everyday... by tgatliff · · Score: 1

    iSSH on the iPhone might not be the best out there, but it does what it needs to do. I have a 3 watt cellular repeater on my car, which gives me 5 bars no matter where I am....

    1. Re:I use iSSH almost everyday... by jisom · · Score: 1

      I use it on my iPad. both the iPhone 4G and iPad support Bluetooth keyboards and keypads. Thinkgeek sells one for the iphone, the PS3 bluetooth keypad works with my iPad. So this is more a question of apps than the phones themselves.

    2. Re:I use iSSH almost everyday... by nloop · · Score: 1

      I'd hate life if I had to use the iphone keyboard for work related SSH. I've heard you can do swype now at least, but that's still not ideal for terminal usage.

      Also, iSSH is $10 and last I checked there wasn't a free ssh client. I like my iPad but the app prices in general are just bizarre.

    3. Re:I use iSSH almost everyday... by jisom · · Score: 1

      $10 yes but compared to various apps that replicate just part of it can cost as much. telnet, ssh, vnc and X11.

    4. Re:I use iSSH almost everyday... by robnator · · Score: 1

      Another voice in support of iPhone + iSSH.
      Well-maintained, often updated app provides better-than-basic connectivity. If you really use it for work, expense the $10 (cheapskates!). If you really need to work long enough to tire of the screen keyboard, take more Admin for Bozos classes...

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    5. Re:I use iSSH almost everyday... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Try searching for Mochasoft. They have free versions of telnet, ssh, vnc, rdp and other goodies. They have paid ones too, but if you only need to log in once in a while, the free ones work great.

    6. Re:I use iSSH almost everyday... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All of the reviews you find for SSH clients on iPhone/iPad are old and refer to cheaper "lite" versions that no longer exist for most of them. I finally took the plunge yesterday and paid the $10 for iSSH for my iPhone. Yeah, for every day work use, I'd kill myself if I had to use anything but a full keyboard. But to be able to log in remotely in a pinch or more realistically an emergency really is worth it. I don't have to go finding a computer with internet access where I can remotely log into a workstation that has my private key and SSH client setup. It's there on my phone now.

      For the prices any of the other SSH clients (that get favorable reviews) are charging, there's little chance I'm going to try anything else unless iSSH burns me. They have nice little, programmable "popups" that can make quick work for something in emergency, like rebooting the server or restarting some service (mysql, apache, etc).

    7. Re:I use iSSH almost everyday... by spxero · · Score: 1

      I'll voice my support as well. For quick bash scripts, restarting services, etc. I haven't found a better one out there. The built-in VNC tunneling makes this absolutely worth $10 and then some. Then again, I've never been in a coffee shop and needed to debug lines of code in my scripts because the remote backups failed.

      iSSH does exactly what I need it to do- quick and easy SSH and VNC tunneling in between games of Angry Birds.

    8. Re:I use iSSH almost everyday... by DrgnDancer · · Score: 1

      I'm using TouchTerm for iPhone and I've found it fairly nice. It has an "enhanced" virtual keyboard with a lot of the extra useful keys like ~, tab, and several ctrl escapes. It saves your connections, can handle keys, and is generally a fully functional SSH client. That said, I'd rather use a real computer with a keyboard unless it's an emergency.

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    9. Re:I use iSSH almost everyday... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cell repeater on your car? Can you post a link to what kind? All I've seen are more building-focused, a car one could be quite useful...

  21. iPhone with iSSH by trevc · · Score: 5, Informative

    iPhone with iSSH by Zinger-Soft works great for me. You can use an external Bluetooth keyboard. Nice thing is, you can run the iPad version as well for the one price. www.zinger-soft.com

    1. Re:iPhone with iSSH by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      What part of physical keyboard did you not understand? Carrying around a BT keyboard is hardly on the run now is it. He obviously wants to react to issues where ever he is, and not look like a typical ipadder cruising the local coffee shops.

    2. Re:iPhone with iSSH by spider256 · · Score: 0

      I use iSSH too, it has come in handy a number of times, they did a good job of making it readable and user friendly, my only gripe is with the iPhone screen being too small to get serious work done, but its really good for quick fixes.

    3. Re:iPhone with iSSH by papasui · · Score: 1

      That's an issue with all cell phones..

    4. Re:iPhone with iSSH by mcculloughsean · · Score: 1

      Agreed. I use the iphone one on the go all the time. Not comfortable for long-term use, but if you need to quickly restart a service, or deploy some code it works great

    5. Re:iPhone with iSSH by gseidman · · Score: 1

      Another vote for iSSH on iPhone. Even if you don't have a hardware keyboard, it has a keyboard mode that makes it semi-transparent and another that keeps the text from scrolling under it. Great use of configurable pie menus for macros and keys that aren't on the virtual keyboard. The X server works very nicely, and I believe it does VNC as well (though I've never used it). It also takes advantage of iOS's almost-multitasking to keep connections open in the background while you switch to another app. It's even better running on the iPad, and it's a universal app (i.e. buy it once for both devices). I find it indispensable. I've even done HTML/JS/SVG development by switching between it and Mobile Safari.

    6. Re:iPhone with iSSH by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can even use the background capabilities for limited tunneling.

    7. Re:iPhone with iSSH by Nyeerrmm · · Score: 1

      Well, the idea of an Ask Slashdot is to not only answer the original question, but to share related information that others might find useful. So while the original post may not be interested in an iPhone app, other readers may be. Personally, as a contented iOS user, I find iSSH a valuable tool for doing quick things on our main work cluster when I'm away, and if I didn't know about it I'd be glad someone mentioned it here.

      Additionally, the semi-transparent keyboard technique they use partially mitigates the requirement for a physical keyboard, at least for me. The existence of a semi-transparent software keyboard may not be something the original poster considered and might appreciate knowing its an option (although I imagine they probably don't want an iOS device anyway).

    8. Re:iPhone with iSSH by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I use the same rig and software (i think it also handles Xserve, VNC and RDP, but never tried). I like the option to use it in landscape mode and the fact that you can make the keyboard translucent to give you more lines and a full keyboard. Control characters are easier to hit than other's I've tried. Works over 3G, is stable, and I can organize saved connections nicely. I think it was $30, but I billed it out anyway ;)

    9. Re:iPhone with iSSH by StikyPad · · Score: 1

      Nice... will it connect to 127.0.0.1 by any chance?

    10. Re:iPhone with iSSH by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Has Apple improve its keyboard API? When I tried to use an external keyboard a few months ago, you couldn't get the Ctrl and Alt keys to do anything because they weren't exposed to iPhone apps.

    11. Re:iPhone with iSSH by samorris · · Score: 1

      I have to second this, iSSH is surprisingly usable on the iPhone... it works well when you just need to jump in and attach to an already running gnu screen session to check on a job from a meeting or on the bus. Its not something that you'd write 10k lines of code in, but I would hate to be without it now. It even has a built-in X server.

      My only wish is that it had skey/otp support built in, its a pain to have to keep switch to a different app to generate an skey response.

    12. Re:iPhone with iSSH by indiechild · · Score: 1

      The original Asker specifically mentioned iPhone in his query, so it's only fair to list an iPhone/iPad solution.

    13. Re:iPhone with iSSH by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's an issue -- the way they cut you off, mid-sentence?

  22. Timely by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was doing this last night, from a Android Tablet (10' POV Mobii TegraII unit, very, very sweet) with the Gingerbread keyboard (this is a v2.2 based unit but rooted by default, installing the v2.3 keyboard was almost the first thing I did on it.)

    Tab key and Cursor control keys!

    Tab key for command completion, I use it all the time (with bash-completion it is rarely necesscary to type more than a few chars these days); unfortunately it's hidden deep into the alternate layouts, rather than a simple keystroke.

    Apart from that I could do everything just fine right up until I fired up VI and realised I had no cursor control keys.. oops.
    - Cue much scrabbling around to pull up a vi quickreference and remind myself of the correct alternatives.
    - For those of you thinking 'meh!', what is wrong with him, why does he not use the d-pad.. I say 'What D-Pad ?', this is a Tablet system with a touchscreen, there is no D-pad, trackball, joystick etc.. And I have yet to find a 'virtual D-pad' for the screen..

    That aside, on a tablet system using SSH is quite productive, the big screen really helps :-)

  23. Re:i'm interested in an android app for ssh tunnel by multisync · · Score: 1

    Has the current version of MidpSSH overcome the Blackberry's annoying tendancy to capitalize the first letter of the first word in the commands you type? I seem to recall you had to type your commands in to some intermediary console, rather than interact directly with the shell.

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  24. Samsung Epic by StealthyRoid · · Score: 1

    I'm pretty happy with my Epic. The physical keyboard is pretty good considering the space constraints, and, as many people have already suggested, ConnectBot is a fantastic SSH program with full support for key auth, the slightly bigger than normal screen is noticeably nice, and, at least in Austin, 4G connectivity is pretty widely available and speedy.

    1. Re:Samsung Epic by Agent0013 · · Score: 1

      Plus the Epic has the full number key row on the keyboard. Which many people seem to be saying they like.

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    2. Re:Samsung Epic by Handbasket+Passenger · · Score: 1

      Did a search for "Epic" and somehow missed this post, so I posted this phone below as well. I second this comment, I used connectbot on my epic and it works great. Sure, it'll never be as nice as a real terminal. However, If I have to log in to a server and restart Apache or Postgres it works fantastically.

      Now if they would only get off their asses and release the fuggin' Froyo update.

  25. I've used my evo by brennanw · · Score: 1

    To ssh into my site, modify files, and reboot it remotely. I wouldn't say it was "well-suited" for it, though. More like "it's there if you have absolutely nothing else."

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  26. Nexus One and SSH by inhuman_4 · · Score: 1

    I use SSH on my Nexus One every so often. I am not a sysadmin, just a linux enthusiast, but in my experience the lack of modifier and function keys makes tasks difficult, especially not having TAB for auto completion. But being able to have remote access from anyway is incredibly useful. I'd wager that a smart phone with a near full hardware keyboard would work just fine. Also I think something like the Galaxy Tab or iPad could have a full software keyboard and work because now you have the screen resolution to fit in a terminal and the keyboard. For when I need to do some more serious stuff on SSH I switch my phone into a WiFi access point to get my netbook on the net.

    1. Re:Nexus One and SSH by Improv · · Score: 1

      If you tap the white scroller and hit "I", you get a tab.

      I've been having problems with connectbot not knowing how big the popup keyboard is going to be, and needing to repeatedly summon/dismiss the keyboard to see where I'm typing. Frustrating!

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    2. Re:Nexus One and SSH by inhuman_4 · · Score: 1

      You are my hero!

    3. Re:Nexus One and SSH by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you use ConnectBot (like most of us on Android), then trackpad+i is TAB.

    4. Re:Nexus One and SSH by Rich0 · · Score: 1

      If you want an unlocked phone and a physical keyboard, then your only option is the ADP, but of course Google doesn't sell those any longer. Your next best option (right now) is probably to jailbreak a G2.

      The ADP is of course barely capable of running 2.2, let alone whatever the future holds, so I wouldn't generally recommend it otherwise.

  27. Re:i'm interested in an android app for ssh tunnel by clang_jangle · · Score: 3, Informative

    I believe MidpSSH is quite out of date, but Marc Paradise's BBSH is based on it, and it's a vast improvement.

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  28. Even the virtual keyboards are okay. by Culture20 · · Score: 1

    My virtual keyboard is translucent, allowing the reading of the bright green text underneath. More than enough to edit a config file and restart a service. Nothing beyond an emergency warrants me using my phone like that.

  29. Re:i'm interested in an android app for ssh tunnel by yog · · Score: 3

    ConnectBot on a Google Nexus One. It just works. You can configure the display to 40x23 or 42x24 or whatever font fits best on screen versus your desired font size. The trackball acts as a control key and alt key: one press = CTRL, double press = ALT. (a must for Emacs and vi users)

    My only complaint is that it doesn't remember passwords the way AndFTP does (another excellent tool, by the way). I'd like to not have to type in the darned password every time, but oh well, it's a lot better than no ssh.

    It's also kinda neat that you can view the scrollback simply by dragging the screen back. Why don't all computers work that way?

    Last, and best of all, it's a free app. I haven't tried the other ssh clients out there, honestly, but since this one works, I haven't felt the need.

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  30. Small Netbook and WWAN card. by Lumpy · · Score: 3, Informative

    Honestly, if you SSH in a LOT using a phone will anger you a lot. I got a tiny netbook with a WWAN card (inside!)
    Dell mini 10 with a pciE wwan card works great. and it is small enough to carry with me everywhere.

    I'd end up killing people if I had to spend more that 30 seconds working in SSH on a phone.

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    1. Re:Small Netbook and WWAN card. by Vectormatic · · Score: 1

      The wwan card isnt even needed

      when waiting for my adsl connection to finally be hooked up, i used the wifi hotspot on my htc desire for the occasional email-check with my laptop (before any screams "gmail APP!!!" that doesnt work for my work's lotus notes crap...)

      It is incredibly easy, the app ships by default, easy peasy!

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    2. Re:Small Netbook and WWAN card. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I'd end up killing people if I had to spend more that 30 seconds working in SSH on a phone.

      If you HAVE to connect from a phone, you damn well better be a good enough admin to only NEED 30 seconds.

    3. Re:Small Netbook and WWAN card. by ScentCone · · Score: 3, Funny

      I'd end up killing people if I had to spend more that 30 seconds working in SSH on a phone.

      It's possible you should consider a different line of work. Perhaps landscaping (no chainsaws, though, for you), or something like playing the panflute in one of those fake ethnic bands that work city parks.

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    4. Re:Small Netbook and WWAN card. by krelvin · · Score: 1

      Why pay for a WWAN connection for your netbook when you can either use your phone as a tether or if you need it a lot, use a MiFi like device. MiFi can work for many devices without being specifically tied to a specific item.

    5. Re:Small Netbook and WWAN card. by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      Because it's the same price as paying for the tethering. Plus with what I get paid for work It's almost nothing to me.

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    6. Re:Small Netbook and WWAN card. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i guess its just mostly good a a back up ssh then. It might suck but it works in a pinch

    7. Re:Small Netbook and WWAN card. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Really not that hard, did it on a G1 for a while until I upgraded to the Evo. Doing it on the Evo without a keyboard on the other hand makes me want to hurt people/things

    8. Re:Small Netbook and WWAN card. by Geoffreyerffoeg · · Score: 1

      You're using the wrong phone. I find myself not bothering to go get my laptop sometimes.

      Do you have a proper, hardware, non-membrane keyboard with a separate number-key row? (Like the Samsung Intercept?)

  31. screen resolution by tverbeek · · Score: 1

    As long as you're sufficiently nearsighted (or corrected enough to focus at a few inches away), you can't beat the iPhone for screen resolution. There is no better pocketable display for reading itty bitty text.

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  32. Re:Verbs useful by doti · · Score: 0

    Useful, but not necessary.

    "SSH is a must. A good screen resolution too."

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  33. X through SSH... by Dancindan84 · · Score: 1

    X through SSH for server admin? Really? If someone asked for this on one of my boxes I wouldn't let them touch it with a 10 foot pole. Best car analogy I can come up with is a mechanic who doesn't know how to drive a stick well enough to put my car on the lift. Funnily enough we have a DBA who insists on using remote X sessions, then opens up the console in the X session to do his work and wonders why we have memory overhead issues.

    Also, I used an old Treo 600 for on the run server admin using TuSSH back in 2003/4. No 802.11 on it which I found annoying at times (once it was available on other/newer smartphones), but GPRS was fine for SSH. Full keyboard, good enough display that I didn't feel limited by it. If 6-7 years later smartphones aren't at least as capable, something's very wrong.

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    1. Re:X through SSH... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      X through SSH for server admin? Really?

      That wasn't part of the question, there was merely an observation that some phones can operate as X display servers.

    2. Re:X through SSH... by frodo+from+middle+ea · · Score: 1

      A lot of commercial software installations on Unix require a X session. e.g. Oracle. Not that I am condoning using X on servers, but sometimes it's a necessary evil. Secondly if you have memory overhead issues due to a few X sessions, may be it's time you took a good look at your infrastructure and consider an upgrade of equipment.

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    3. Re:X through SSH... by Xtravar · · Score: 1

      Sometimes it's not for adminning, it's for uh displaying things remotely and securely, if you know what I mean.
      iSSH for the iphone/ipad has X built in.

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    4. Re:X through SSH... by KaeloDest · · Score: 0

      Yup that was the white elephant in the missing logic of that spec. I think if i -absolutely needed to get something done I would not fire up X on an handheld. smh

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    5. Re:X through SSH... by Dancindan84 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, it's for Oracle that he does it. I didn't know it was needed. Although there's times where he's just checking on cron jobs and whatnot but still insists on using it, but it's likely that he's just gotten used to it like knarfling points out below.

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    6. Re:X through SSH... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A lot of commercial software installations on Unix require a X session.
      e.g. Oracle.

      Oracle can be installed non-interactively in text-only mode, so that was a very poor example.

  34. Re:i'm interested in an android app for ssh tunnel by EasyTarget · · Score: 2

    Amen.. ConnectBot is great. All the features and very little lameness or clutter.

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  35. HTC Touch Pro 2 by MetalliQaZ · · Score: 1

    I have an HTC Touch Pro 2 and it has a keyboard that has never been matched in a modern smartphone, as far as I know. It runs Windows Mobile 6.5, which is a dead OS, but PuTTY runs great.

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    1. Re:HTC Touch Pro 2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How do you get Control and Escape?

    2. Re:HTC Touch Pro 2 by Coldeagle · · Score: 1

      I agree. The keyboard on the Touch Pro 2 is out standing and PuTTY does run great. It's also a great business phone as well. What I love most about it is the ability to flip the phone over and put it down on a table and have the speaker phone (which is really good) kick on. It also has a mute/unmute button the back.

    3. Re:HTC Touch Pro 2 by cbhacking · · Score: 1

      I believe the successor to the touch pro 2, keyboard-wise, is the Htc pro 7. It's a Windows Phone 7 device, which means that interoperability with Linux isn't a huge priority, but it has a lovely 5 row keyboard and 800x480 display. The bad news is that its not available yet (coming to Sprint in the US, some time after the CDMA update for WP7).

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  36. Where did the Blackberry go? by dimethylxanthine · · Score: 0

    Being an iPhone user, I was issued with a BlackBerry at my new job (so I can keep checking those emails when I'm out of the office - why else? :), which comes with an unlimited 3G data plan - so I decided to put it to good use and explore how the BB application ecosystem faired to that of the iPhone.
    One of the first things I looked for was an SSH client as I didn't have a data plan on the iPhone, despite being a satisfied MobileTerminal.app user. I felt lucky and got taken to bbssh.org, which I must say is a very solid app! Despite being in beta it feels solid and sports an extensive range of features one would expect from a normal SSH/VT client. The additional benefit of the BB (despite me still getting used to the tiny keyboard) is the width of the screen which packs quite a few columns for greater usability. To put it simply - one of the few things that gives me joy as I'm finding myself using the BB more often than not! Otherwise - I'd say MobileTerminal on iOS! YMMV and good luck!

  37. ConnectBot on Droid A855 by malignant_minded · · Score: 1

    I use this quite frequently the app is awesome but the keys on the phone suck. I have found that if i really need to do some work it's just easier to tether the phone to a laptop

  38. Ick by ledow · · Score: 1

    Use a netbook, or a laptop. God, I wouldn't want to think what tab completion and a dodgy touchscreen keyboard on a critical server could do to a shell.

    If the machine is up enough to SSH in, it's not an emergency. If you truly are the only person who can log into it (locally or remotely) to fix the problem, please don't do it from a smartphone. Actually log in, take your time and fix the problem rather than bashing out commands in some substandard SSH client that will probably be insecure.

    It's 2011. I'm never more than a couple of hundred yards from a Wifi connection, never more than a few hundred yards from a computer that I can use if I really have nothing at all and rarely without some sort of computer access unless (and this is important) I don't want to be disturbed and will not fix the machine then anyway (i.e. holiday or weekends when I'm not being paid to do that). If some major emergency crops up, chances are that I need to be there, or that someone else is already there to notice and fix the problem with barely a hint as to the correct command. Anything else *CAN* wait until I can get on a proper terminal and/or until I actually stand in front of the machine.

    I honestly can't think of a scenario that would demand SSH access from a single person, on the fly, such that they don't get time to go to a computer or arrive at the physical location of the computer in question, that doesn't hint at poor IT management anyway.

    1. Re:Ick by StealthyRoid · · Score: 2
      "If the machine is up enough to SSH into, it's not an emergency"? Really?
      • Segfaulted Apache
      • Runaway MySQL query
      • DDOS attack
      • DNS server dies
      • Full disks prevent writing session files

      I'm barely awake and those popped right off my head. Either you've been fortunate enough to only have IT gigs where you weren't the only person running the servers, or you've never had anything go wrong. Either way, get your ass to Atlantic City while your luck is holding out.

    2. Re:Ick by greed · · Score: 1

      I run systems where you have to log in and enter decryption keys after a reboot. So a power failure at the data centre means I need to SSH in, enter the LUKS keys, and bring up the services that access user data. Same thing if I need a data centre admin to do something to the server: they can reboot to single-user without being able to log on, but they can't get at any of the LUKS volumes. (Once the system is in multiuser, they can't log on.)

      My home system only brings up enough disks and filesystems to boot to multiuser at first. THEN it starts the SSH server. Once SSH is up, it finally starts bringing up the other 30TB of disks--so I can even do most forms of filesystem, logical volume and RAID recovery over SSH.

    3. Re:Ick by swrider · · Score: 1

      I can only hope that you work in a large organization with all of the resources you need, lots of additional support personnel, and a customer base that doesn't care what happens.

      I agree that one should not plan on performing normal maintenance from a phone on a regular basis, but if one works in a smaller company with limited resources, one had better plan on being able to perform emergency maintenance in any situation, or there will be blood.

    4. Re:Ick by Linker3000 · · Score: 1

      "I honestly can't think of a scenario that would demand SSH access from a single person, on the fly, such that they don't get time to go to a computer or arrive at the physical location of the computer in question, that doesn't hint at poor IT management anyway."

      Meanwhile, back in the real world....

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    5. Re:Ick by old_skul · · Score: 2

      I'm pretty sure you have never, ever done any real systems administration of any sort. For you to make uneducated, broad statements such as this...if I had mod points, I would mod you trolling. Having worked in IT for 20 years, I can tell you that there's been plenty of scenarios in which a smartphone with an SSH client was or would have been invaluable. When I'm on call, and I'm at a restaurant, and a critical service gets broken by someone and I need to intervene, a netbook or laptop aren't practicable.

    6. Re:Ick by _Sprocket_ · · Score: 1

      Use a netbook, or a laptop. God, I wouldn't want to think what tab completion and a dodgy touchscreen keyboard on a critical server could do to a shell.

      Last year I found myself sitting on a train during my vacation so I checked in to my email to find alerts of possible spambot action. I popped up a SSH session, quickly plonked the messages and accounts, and called it good until later that afternoon when I could sit down at a real keyboard and properly address the problem. I wouldn't have wanted to do any real involved work with that interface. But a quick and convenient option (Droid and ConnectBot) was sure handy for basic tasks.

      I appreciate the general sentiment of your telling kids to get off your lawn; right interface for the job. But that doesn't mean a sub-standard interface is never useful or worth considering for a given job.

    7. Re:Ick by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Use a netbook, or a laptop. God, I wouldn't want to think what tab completion and a dodgy touchscreen keyboard on a critical server could do to a shell.

      If the machine is up enough to SSH in, it's not an emergency. If you truly are the only person who can log into it (locally or remotely) to fix the problem, please don't do it from a smartphone. Actually log in, take your time and fix the problem rather than bashing out commands in some substandard SSH client that will probably be insecure.

      Misinformed asshole, or trolling douchehat?
      My smartphone doesn't have a "dodgy touchscreen keyboard" -- and I don't generally use the non-dodgy one it does have, because it has a hardware keyboard.

      I'm also not clear what it could "do to a shell" that I wouldn't be able to detect (and fix) when I read back the command I typed before I press Enter.

      Finally, my phone runs OpenSSH -- glad to know you consider it "some substandard SSH client that will probably be insecure".

      Again I ask, misinformed asshole, or trolling douchehat? Either way, nobody can take you seriously...

    8. Re:Ick by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are a number of cases where being able to pop a ssh is useful. Especially if one is out in the woods for the weekend and has to do some senior admin tasks. couple examples:

      1: A database server that ran out of space, and sent alerts out that a dump didn't complete. It is a good idea to have the backup program slurp up the files so they can be deleted, or the filesystems changed around.

      2: The backup program had a tape drive report some soft errors. It can't hurt to log in, fire off a tape cleaning routine for prophylactic reasons.

      3: The VM server with encrypted drives at a remote site is sitting there waiting for a TrueCrypt key.

      4: You get note while you are out, that corporate policy needs to have the finance LAN segment be more locked down. You ssh into the core routers and get 'er done.

      5: The Exchange server is low on space, so you ssh into the SAN, build a LUN, present it to the hub Exchange box, then ssh into the box, diskpart it, and have it available for more space.

    9. Re:Ick by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm a relative n00b Linux admin, and hadn't heard about LUKS until I googled from your post. Now I know something else I didn't know yesterday. Thanks!

  39. Also, certificate support by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    None of the servers that I access accept password-based login, they all rely on pre-distributed certificates.

    Beyond Maemo / Meego, do any phone-based SSH apps support certificate login?

    1. Re:Also, certificate support by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ConnectBot on Android

    2. Re:Also, certificate support by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      None of the servers that I access accept password-based login, they all rely on pre-distributed certificates.

      Beyond Maemo / Meego, do any phone-based SSH apps support certificate login?

      Pffffft, certificates, this is SSH bra, real manly man's PKI.
      All that x509 nonsense of recording certificates issued, revocation, and signing public keys with identifying information is for ninnies.
      You'll stick your bare public key with a bit of generic, non-authoritative identifying information following it in some distributed file you'll never review and only change keys once per job change. And you'll like it.

      - OSS Fanboi

    3. Re:Also, certificate support by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      PuTTY on Symbian does.

    4. Re:Also, certificate support by maxume · · Score: 1

      ConnectBot seems to, but I haven't actually used it.

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    5. Re:Also, certificate support by paimin · · Score: 1

      iSSH and Touchterm on iOS do.

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  40. Re:i'm interested in an android app for ssh tunnel by oobayly · · Score: 1

    I've been using ConnectBot since I got my N1. It's a great application.

  41. Re:i'm interested in an android app for ssh tunnel by grayn0de · · Score: 1

    ConnectBot...

  42. Motorola Atrix by ArhcAngel · · Score: 1

    If you can wait a few months Perhaps the Motorola Atrix is just what you are looking for. It doesn't have a physical keyboard attached but comes with a dock that looks like a netbook with full keyboard and LCD. It has a dual core processor and a desktop like interface when docked.

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  43. Re:i'm interested in an android app for ssh tunnel by TheCarp · · Score: 1

    I use connectbot I haven't done tunneling, but it has the option.

    Admittedly, I seldom do any ssh via the phone, its a last resort backup for me. Came in really handy while I was de-racking a machine that I was removing from colo, and there wasn't a crash cart in sight. I just ssh'd in and halted the machine. Aside from that, I seldom use it.

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  44. Please discuss tolerable duration or use case by jlmale0 · · Score: 1

    Even though everyone's pain threshold is different, please mention tolerable duration of use. For me, I've got an iPhone 3 with Touch Term Pro. There are some idiosyncracies with its onscreen keyboards, but once learned, its decent. This is sufficient for short tasks, but I wouldn't want to use this setup for more than about 7 minutes. This is sufficient for checking service status and kicking off one or two things, but troubleshooting is right out.

    1. Re:Please discuss tolerable duration or use case by leighklotz · · Score: 1

      Even though everyone's pain threshold is different, please mention tolerable duration of use. For me, I've got an iPhone 3 with Touch Term Pro. There are some idiosyncracies with its onscreen keyboards, but once learned, its decent. This is sufficient for short tasks, but I wouldn't want to use this setup for more than about 7 minutes. This is sufficient for checking service status and kicking off one or two things, but troubleshooting is right out.

      OK, bring up Emacs. Now tell me how it works. (Or Vi, if that's your preference.)

  45. Re:i'm interested in an android app for ssh tunnel by noc007 · · Score: 1

    Third for ConnectBot. You just have to get to learn the key combinations for |, Esc, Crtl+C, Ctrl+D, and whatever character the keyboard doesn't have already and you're all set. It automatically saves new connections and you can configure it to connect to a different port if your server isn't listening on port 22. Also, you can open a localhost connection as well; you'll need to be rooted and have something like BusyBox to do some things, but I haven't had to call BusyBox to ping at least.

  46. Blame Oracle by knarfling · · Score: 1

    Funnily enough we have a DBA who insists on using remote X sessions, then opens up the console in the X session to do his work and wonders why we have memory overhead issues.

    Blame Oracle for this one. Although it can run in a CLI environment, it cannot be installed on a headless system. You have to install a Graphical Desktop in order to install Oracle. I could not believe it until I started working at a company that could afford the outrageous prices Oracle charges. (My other pet peeve with Oracle is that during the install process, you have to run a script as root. It cannot be sudo, it cannot be as a user with root privileges, it must be run as a user named "root.")

    Once some DBAs get used to that environment, they forget that other databases do not need a GUI environment and demand that GNOME or KDE be installed on the database server.

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    1. Re:Blame Oracle by damacus · · Score: 1

      You do not need a graphical desktop environment on the server; you only need the X11 libraries and basic utilities. On Debian, that means x11-common and x11-utils with their dependencies. There's no xterm, xclock, etc, let alone a a window manager like xfce or worse yet a full blown environment like GNOME or KDE. The actual DBA should connect in, run the utilities, and then be done with it. They can use whatever gui and whatever X11 server they want. The bulk of the load is on their desktop, not the server.

    2. Re:Blame Oracle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I usually just install vnc-server, twm, and xterm for a fairly minimal graphical environment. Alternatively, you can set your display to a remote machine that does have a windowing system and not install anything.

      As a side note, the root.sh scripts can be executed via sudo. However, most sysadmins will not let you, because you can edit the script to do anything root can.

  47. Re:i'm interested in an android app for ssh tunnel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've used ConnectBot occasionally on my HTC Desire and it works well. The lack of a physical keyboard hampers any sort of long-term use (more than a couple of minutes really), but it works great for restarting MediaTomb on my PC without having to leave the living room!

  48. Re:i'm interested in an android app for ssh tunnel by benjymous · · Score: 2

    Also, search for "full keyboard" on the market for a replacement software keyboard that gives lots of useful extra keys, such as a dpad and ctrl-key shortcuts (so you can type ^C with a single keypress)

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  49. Re:i'm interested in an android app for ssh tunnel by s4ltyd0g · · Score: 3, Informative

    Just prefix each command with :; and the capitalization problem goes away. At first that quirk used to drive me crazy, but there's no need to use a secondary console.

  50. Nokia E90 + PuTTY by skiminki · · Score: 1

    Nokia E90 + PuTTY for S60 works for me. It's got physical QWERTY keyboard and 800 x 352 screen resolution is enough for decent terminal sizes. I use 6x13 font for 133x27.

    1. Re:Nokia E90 + PuTTY by nomorecwrd · · Score: 1

      Same here.
      N97 mini + PuTTY + WiFi/EDGE/3G.
      Not such a big screen or resolution, but I have done wonders through it during emergencies. (8.8 earthquake anyone?)

    2. Re:Nokia E90 + PuTTY by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      I use PuTTY on the E71. The keyboard kinda sucks (no dedicated control key? WTF?) but it's OK in an emergency when I can't be arsed to walk to the server and the lappie's occupied.

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    3. Re:Nokia E90 + PuTTY by w1d3 · · Score: 1

      Compared to N97, E90 has much better keyboard for SSH use: Tab (!!!), /, -, Ctrl, numbers.. No doubt it's an old phone but if SSH is your ulimate criterion, the keyboard usability of E90 rocks.

  51. n900 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    n900 does all this, basically debian linux laptop the size of a mobile.

    best hardware/software mix of all.

    rgds

  52. Re:i'm interested in an android app for ssh tunnel by jijacob · · Score: 1

    I also use Connectbot. I have a Droid so the physical keyboard makes it extremely easy to use. And there's Teamviewer out for Android now also that does a VNC-type connection.

  53. I use TouchTerm for iPhone by StuartHankins · · Score: 1

    It has its own issues (mostly limitations due to the iPhone not having a physical keyboard so you have a lot of floating menus that have to be tapped to toggle on/off). Although it's not free -- $9 for pro, $4 for lite -- at that price I don't have crazy expectations that it will grant world peace or anything... works for me. http://www.ajidev.com/touchterm/index.html

  54. iSSH with built-in VNC by Hoho19 · · Score: 1

    I really love the tunnelled VNC that iSSH offers. I use this a lot to get to my home machine. Also the keyboard and associated list of all available command and function buttons is really nice. I also like the "mouse" buttons. Those are very nice instead of tapping the screen which can be "fat-fingered." Nothing worse than choosing "close" instead of "save". I also like the fact that it works over 3G so I can truely get to my home machine anywhere, anytime.

  55. Programmer's Android IME? by shish · · Score: 1

    I use connectbot a lot, but the android soft keyboard sucks for programmers -- it's possible to create custom input methods, has anybody done so?

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  56. (Almost) having to break the law to do this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've never owned a smartphone before I got an iphone from work. It was okay. I can see the appeal but I could also see all the limitations that bound the phone from being really great. Likely in breach of some contract with my company, I jailbroke my iphone. To this day, I've not installed a single "stolen", "free", or even "unauthorized" app. Nor have I customized my iphone to look cool. I did it for a single thing, to get a terminal on my phone. Was that so much to ask? Instead, I have to break contract with my company, probably break warranty for the phone, possibly break the law (this was before the judge ruled that jailbreaking was legal). All this so that I can have control. And what do I do with that control? I use it for work. And I use it for home, I have scripts set up to control my home network. (Like catting my laptops mic into my roommates speaker through ssh when he makes too much noise late at night when I'm trying to sleep.) If I had the money or the clout to make my work switch the n900's, that'd be great. But I'm stuck with this barely usable iphone out of the box that I had to break in order to make it useful. Not everyone fits in your neat little app package world, apple.

  57. iPhone, TouchTerm & SSH Key's by applematt84 · · Score: 1

    I had a Nokia running Symbian back in 2007 and used PuTTY. It was very clunky and not user friendly (not to mention typing via T9 is NOT fun!). In 2008 I switched to the BlackJack 2 running Windows Mobile and yet another version of PuTTY. The miniature keyboard made it difficult to type and I often had problems with type-o's (I have giant thumbs). Windows Mobile also liked to drop data connections so I upgraded to an iPhone in 2009 and found TouchTerm. My biggest beef with PuTTY was I couldn't store the key on the phone and import it into PuTTY. That may have changed now, nonetheless, that was my past experience. What I love about TouchTerm is that I can generate an SSH key from within TouchTerm then place it in my authorized_keys file. TouchTerm on the iPhone works great and when I'm on the go; I take my Laser Bluetooth Keyboard (http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/keyboards-mice/8193/) with me and it makes typing SO much easier. The software keyboard works well and I have no complaints. For what it's worth, that's my two cents.

    1. Re:iPhone, TouchTerm & SSH Key's by ras · · Score: 1

      It was very clunky and not user friendly

      Yes, it was. It isn't any more. In fact it is actually touch screen friendly now. It can even recognise gestures and translate them into arbitrary keystrokes. Swiping up and having vi scroll a page up is actually rather cool.

      not to mention typing via T9 is NOT fun

      I am amazed you preserved with it. Assuming you have an ssh that works (and once you got past the clunky UI putty did work well) the single biggest bugbear with ssh on phones is the keyboard. I have a Symbian phone with a 5 row keyboard. It isn't a modern phone and so has a small screen, but nonetheless works very, very well with Putty. As soon as you start having to use a shift button to access a substantial part of the character set (eg numbers on a 4 row keyboard) things go downhill. I am amazed you could use it at all with T9.

      My biggest beef with PuTTY was I couldn't store the key on the phone and import it into PuTTY.

      You could always load a key directly onto the phone and use it. It had to be in Putty format of course, but putty provides a windows/linux program that converts keys into its format. This isn't unusual behaviour, SecurtCrt has its own format, as do many other ssh implementations. Having to convert key formats between ssh implementations is a pain of course, but it has been a pain for many, many years now. Even ssh-keygen has an (undocumented) option that converts between openssh's key format and others.

      What I love about TouchTerm is that I can generate an SSH key from within TouchTerm then place it in my authorized_keys file.

      Given the number of machines I manage, installing a separate key form each device I might want to access them from creates a key management nightmare. I tried using iSSH on an iPhone, and what I hated about it the method you describe was the only method that was usable. You could enter a ssh key, but manually typing in a 2048 bit key is obviously insane and copy & pasting large blocks of text on an iPhone is an exercise in frustration. Worse, it could only have remember 1 key. If TouchTerm has the same limitations I'd say it doesn't have a full ssh implementation. I don't view being able to use multiple keys as an optional feature.

  58. Re:i'm interested in an android app for ssh tunnel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    it'd be great if someone wrote a good virtual keyboard to use with it, complete with modifier keys, tab and a number row. Swyping my commands is an interesting experience, but I'd prefer an easier approach :p

  59. Re:i'm interested in an android app for ssh tunnel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Here, here! I just used ConnectBot this morning to login to my workstation while waiting for the bus to grab some information I needed.

  60. Re:i'm interested in an android app for ssh tunnel by jamonterrell · · Score: 1

    I like my samsung Epic for it. There's a version of connectbot built with mappings for that particular phone at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=813176 that adds support for just about every key you need--control, escape, etc. I've used vi on it pretty comfortably.

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  61. iPhone has iSSH by jschmitz · · Score: 1

    I mean it works - but actually doing sysadmin with it would be pretty painful - its more of a novelty than anything

  62. Nokia E75 with Symbian Putty by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    E75 has awesome keyboard which even has a physical Ctrl, while Symbian Putty can easily generate any special multikey sequences (Esc-a-z ... etc..). The screen is a bit small at 2.4" but even mutt is usable. Definately a great smartphone with solid ssh functionality.

  63. Re:i'm interested in an android app for ssh tunnel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    forth for ConnectBot,

    there are some issues but for the most part it works great. /signed

  64. ConnectBot by t2t10 · · Score: 1

    I use ConnectBot. It can run in the background and provide tunnels for just about anything you want.

    You can even set the proxy of your 3G access point to the local endpoint of an ssh tunnel.

  65. any Android phone by t2t10 · · Score: 1

    They all support ssh and support it well (also VNC and tons of other admin tools). Just pick one with a keyboard you like.

    Having a trackball or optical sensor is also useful, in particular if you want to run VNC and other remote graphical applications, since you need a mouse for those (touch is usually used for pan and zoom).

  66. Re:i'm interested in an android app for ssh tunnel by cez · · Score: 1

    when using the "input" window to type, it does indeed capitalize still, at least the version I have, but once interactive in a shell or bounced from that shell to a router or somewhere else, no capitalization on the shell typing...

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  67. Re:i'm interested in an android app for ssh tunnel by cez · · Score: 1

    Thanks, I'll have to scope it out.

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  68. Re:i'm interested in an android app for ssh tunnel by MoxFulder · · Score: 3, Informative

    I use ConnectBot on my Samsung Moment. Has a physical keyboard and works great, can do pubkey authentication, all the bells and whistles. Big thumbs up... ConnectBot is an extremely well-designed and open-source app.

  69. Re:i'm interested in an android app for ssh tunnel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm using ConnectBot now... But I'm dumb and can't figure out how to make the font larger.

  70. Re:i'm interested in an android app for ssh tunnel by newbish · · Score: 2

    A hard keyboard + ConnectBot make my Samsung Epic a good fit...

  71. Blocked by carriers by bhaywood · · Score: 1

    I'm not sure if this is the case with most carriers but Telus blocks the std ssh port on their network, making this mostly moot.

  72. Re:i'm interested in an android app for ssh tunnel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and most of the custom firmwares come with full scp at the CLI + bash etc
    the keyboard is a must have though - so sick of "swype" fanboys telling me it gets higher WPM than a full 105 key keyboard touch typing and such balls - that doesn't matter when your typing passwords with numbers or code, like :(){ :|:& };:

  73. Re:i'm interested in an android app for ssh tunnel by Gushi · · Score: 2

    ConnectBot can open a port that your application can tunnel through. What I really want is a way to tunnel the browser and maybe even email on my android for when I am using a public insecure wifi point, but I haven't run across anything even remotely close....

    http://www.toremote.com/ssh -Destructions for connect bot port forwarding

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  74. Re:i'm interested in an android app for ssh tunnel by tom17 · · Score: 1

    Try your volume buttons. I don't know if this is dependent on what phone you have, so just try it :)

  75. Re:i'm interested in an android app for ssh tunnel by Kazin · · Score: 1

    But it DOES remember SSH keys, which can have a null password.

  76. Re:i'm interested in an android app for ssh tunnel by tom17 · · Score: 1

    Did the bus get your information OK in the end?

  77. Re:i'm interested in an android app for ssh tunnel by AvitarX · · Score: 1

    I believe that I read the gingerbread keyboard is milti-touch capable (not on my nexus one with a custom firmware though), if so I expect a keyboard with ctrl and although pretty shortly.

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  78. Can't do it on a Windows Phone 7 by kraln · · Score: 1

    You still don't get access to sockets on WP7, so you can't really do a proper terminal emulator.

  79. What about Debian userland on Android? by jabjoe · · Score: 1

    Uses the armel Debian userland in a disk image and chroot.
    http://pavelmachek.livejournal.com/73828.html
    Been something actually making me thinking of finally getting a smart phone.

  80. iPhone and iPod Touch SSH by dpru · · Score: 1

    Does any free option exist for the iPod Touch or iPhone?

    1. Re:iPhone and iPod Touch SSH by applematt84 · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately, no. At least, from what I can find. It's worth the money, in my opinion.

    2. Re:iPhone and iPod Touch SSH by dpru · · Score: 1

      It just surprises me that there wouldn't be a single free SSH app for iOS, especially when ssh is so heavily associated with Linux and open source.

    3. Re:iPhone and iPod Touch SSH by applematt84 · · Score: 1

      Agreed.

  81. motorola milestone/droid by C0vardeAn0nim0 · · Score: 1

    install connectbot on in, and happy SSHing.

    it uses the right side alt and shift keys in clever ways to extend the keyboard, also uses the trackpad's central button as ctrl, so sending ctrl+c or ctrl+d is easy. it can even import a private key from a file and/or generate a key and export the public part to include in an authorized_keys file.

    not everything is flowers tho.

    i'm still using version r484 from march 2010 because versions after that have a badly broken copy/paste. anything after r484, the only way to copy/paste reliably is using touch, r484 allows use of the trackpad to navigate, mark and copy.

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    1. Re:motorola milestone/droid by green1 · · Score: 1

      I have been using connectbot on my milestone to SSH in to my server for maintenance on the go for a few weeks, and so far it's a god-send, however I do miss actual number buttons on the keyboard. My girlfriend just got an LG Shine Plus, although it has a slightly smaller screen and a less powerful processor, it does have what is quite likely a better keyboard. Another good contender would be the HTC Desire Z (the Z model has a physical keyboard whereas the other models don't)

      It does however depend on what else you want to do on a device, The Nokia N-series devices have pretty decent keyboards and SSH capability, but obviously lack the Android Market and all it's pretty/fun/useful apps. there are other choices as well.

  82. ConnectBot on HTC Hero by wlcalde · · Score: 1

    ConnectBot on Android with an HTC Hero works fine for my mobile SSH needs. I use it nearly every day. However my needs are simple; simple command line stuff and reading my email with pine (yes pine) to a NetBSD server (sdf.org).

  83. Re:i'm interested in an android app for ssh tunnel by HIghoS · · Score: 3, Informative

    As mentioned elsewhere in these posts, give BBSSH a try. It does not have this annoying tendency. What you type in your blackberry keyboard is what you get and if you want to use caps you need to hold down the shift key just like a real keyboard. I cannot stress how amazing BBSSH is, once you start to really get use to it and learn about swipes (literally almost like gestures of a sorts) it's great and quickly I can use it almost as fast as a putty/xterm session.

  84. ConnectBot still hopelessly fucked on HTC Hero by gumpish · · Score: 1

    ConnectBot still doesn't work with the HTC Hero. Any key which is invoked by holding your finger down for a bit results in two keystrokes being registered.

    1. Re:ConnectBot still hopelessly fucked on HTC Hero by yahwotqa · · Score: 1

      It used to do that for me as well after some events (ssh to another system from within one session, sometimes screen orientation changes). The fix was always to hide keyboard, and display it again - long press would work again then.

      Curiously enough, I no longer observe this bug since a while ago (might have something to do with installing Android 2.2 on the Hero, who knows).

  85. WebOS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Root access is easily had on any WebOS device, but the lack of arrow keys slows things down a bit. Homebrew terminal applications with workarounds get things working pretty well.

  86. 2005? by AugstWest · · Score: 1

    2005? I remember asking this question in 2000, when I got my first Kyocera Smartphone. Hell, even before that I had a modem for my Palm 5 running ttssh.

    I remember finding a quiet spot at the Hammerstein Ballroom during a String Cheese Incident show to log into the servers @ Exodus and restart the AFS server, then all of the WebLogic boxes on my palm pilot.

    It seemed so esoteric then, these days it's just quaint.

  87. Re:i'm interested in an android app for ssh tunnel by atejero · · Score: 1

    I love MidpSSH :)

    It works flawlessly for my needs, I use it to remotely administer a Nortel CS1000M PBX when I'm in the field and need quick access to look up a TN or disu/enlu.

  88. There are some cheap alternatives by rickb928 · · Score: 1

    I used MidpPSSH on my BB 7105t back in 2006.

    My G1 runs CyanogenMod 6.1.0, and does SSH out of the box. You can find one for $50 in CL, root it and load any of several recovery images and ROMs that will let you configure WiFi without a SIM, and you got yourself an entirely usable SSH terminal. Other Android phones may do this also. If you can get a MyTouch (Magic), do that instead, the G1 has serious memory limitations and you really need the 2708 hack to make it stable.

    Bonus points for having a minimal browser that can get you into forums and do serious research with nothing but WiFi.

    More bonus points if you can make your 'real' phone a hotspot and then you can use the 'spare' SSH phone via that. I do this a lot. EDGE is plenty fast enough.

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  89. HTC G1 by AC-x · · Score: 2

    It's a bit oldskool but the G1 keyboard has all the numbers on a separate row. A quick google image search shows a few other models with full keyboards too.

  90. Re:i'm interested in an android app for ssh tunnel by robzon · · Score: 1

    ConnectBot + HTC Desire Z rocks. Works like a charm.

  91. Re:i'm interested in an android app for ssh tunnel by jamonterrell · · Score: 1

    not sure if you saw my reply elsewhere, but there's an epic specific build of connectbot that you might enjoy here: http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1938638&cid=34776884

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  92. There are options (was Re:N900) by sethstorm · · Score: 1

    I know that too well. I just keep a USB cable with its D+/D- lines hooked together + gender changer + USB battery handy.

    If you want something in the case, there are always the Mugen batteries.

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  93. Re:i'm interested in an android app for ssh tunnel by LuitvD · · Score: 1

    My only complaint is that it doesn't remember passwords the way AndFTP does (another excellent tool, by the way). I'd like to not have to type in the darned password every time, but oh well, it's a lot better than no ssh.

    In ConnectBot you can press 'menu' and 'Manage Pubkeys' where you can generate RSA keys of which you can append the public key to your remote ~/.ssh/authorized_keys

  94. anticant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I use VNC (specifically Mocha) on my iphone, and it works pretty good. I think you need the non-free version of Mocha to unlock all keyboard strokes and what not. Yes it has a touchpad keypad but do you really need to see more than what you are typing when you type? How much more would you see anyway? Beats the heck out of using all the extra hardware space for a keyboard. The resolution is very good on the iphones and you can easily zoom as needed.

  95. Re:i'm interested in an android app for ssh tunnel by AvitarX · · Score: 1

    There's an app for wifi proxy, couldn't you use that plus SSH forwarding to accomplish what you want?

    App is asproxy.

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  96. Sprint Epic 4g by Handbasket+Passenger · · Score: 1

    I have the Epic 4g and I use it to ssh into my Linux terminals all the time. Phones great, fast, has a hard keyboard, nice, big, widely spaced keys. Now if only Samsung would get off their collective asses and release the froyo update already. (I'm using connectbot as my client, btw)

  97. nokia n900 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    it think the best mobile for ssh text is n900 and it runs on linux(meego).

  98. Re:i'm interested in an android app for ssh tunnel by AvitarX · · Score: 1

    Am i missing something with full keyboard? It took me 4 key presses to get ctrl+c

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  99. Nokia e71! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The e71x can run it too, put there's one or two S60 ssh apps that are great. The typing is pretty easy on the e71 so check it out.

  100. What smart phone can't use SSH? by Bo'Bob'O · · Score: 1

    I've had my T-Mobile G1 since Android 1.0 and I've always had SSH on it. I use "ConnectBot" and it works well enough, and it allows port forwarding. VNC can be a little more tricky, but I haven't looked in over a year.

    The G1 has a great keyboard, and is certainly fast enough to handle SSH if that is all you need and want to get something used on the cheep. Of course, it's a pretty damn slow phone compared to what is on the market today.

    1. Re:What smart phone can't use SSH? by leighklotz · · Score: 1

      Yes, it's pretty much downhill from the G1 as far as keyboards go. Only the Epic has 5-rows and the Evo Shift is presumably called that because you have to press the shift key to get numbers.

  101. N900 FTW! by TechkNighT_1337 · · Score: 1

    N900 FTW! Great form factor, i just use w a rubber from a mouse pad under it to better grip on a table.

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  102. N900, what else by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hardware keyboard, OpenSSH, local shell (well, local linux), nice screen, full local X server, OpenVPN, cisco vpn, samba, nfs, iptables, pretty much you-name-it for these kind of applications.

    Since it has seamless multitasking, you can swith from your running ssh shell to the web (multiple windows), chat or go to irc for help, calls someone, all while keeping your ssh session intact. Oh, and you can easily copy and paste from local files, web, chat, irc to your ssh session... Works a charm, really.

    Not so nice app store ;) but if you need web, chat and VoIP pretty much the best there is, still. Has Skype and Google Voice Video calls for ages. All very nicely integrated with the standard phone app and contacts, i.e. contacts offers you the option to call your contacts with skype, google, and multiple sip accounts as soon as you're logged in to them.

  103. Nokia N900 by alexmin · · Score: 1

    Saves my *ss every week when I have to fix stuff riding train. You have choice of Dropbear and openssh from repositories.

  104. Rsync by xaxa · · Score: 1

    Slightly related:

    I discovered Rsync backup for Android at the weekend, and it's very useful. I now have a complete backup of my phone on my PC, and any time I take a photo I can copy it to my server with a couple of clicks. Since it's real rsync it should be reliable, I had trouble with a couple of other "backup" apps losing files.

    (On-topic I use ConnectBot about once every two months. SSH on a virtual keyboard is awful, expect to use it only in an emergency. About the only thing I've used it for is turning off my PC downstairs if I've already gone to bed.)

  105. Re:i'm interested in an iPhone app for ssh tunnel by cayenne8 · · Score: 1
    What about for an iPhone?

    Are there any good ssh programs for free for the iPhone?

    I tried to use the terminal that comes with cidia for a jailbroken 3GS...but it won't work. You fire it up and the app immediately crashes. I've not found much of anything yet that works on the jailbroken iPhone.

    I'd like to be able to ssh into my boxes...but not finding anything free or open source that will work with it.

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  106. Backberry and PaderSyncSSH by Tiger_Storms · · Score: 1

    I've used my blackberry with this program for more than 2 years, having tried using an iphone as well as a few different android phones I find my self coming back to the blackberry. The program's a little steep for $9.99 but it gives you a lot to play with as well as the ability save and use items on the memory card of the blackberry which I've yet to find an android or iphone app that did let me use the internal memory of my phone in such a way. Not to mention the keyboard for a blackberry seems to feel and work a lot better than most of the other phones out there. Granted Blackberries have a few years on all the other smart phones out there.

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  107. The Openmoko phones are recommended for these task by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Openmoko phones (Neo Freerunner and 1973) seem to cover all the requirements aside from a physical keyboard. Connecting the phone via usb to the computer provides charging, ssh, and using the computer's internet. The usb port also supports host mode, so you can connect a camera to the phone as well. The screen resolution is pretty decent (480x640).

  108. Re:i'm interested in an android app for ssh tunnel by Skal+Tura · · Score: 1

    Yes, any linux based smartphone (androids, nokia n900) and ssh.

  109. What about VPN Clients? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    On several jobs I have had, the VPN barrier had to be negotiated before SSH, VNC, or any of the other goodies mentioned above could be used. The ones I worked with (various versions of the Cisco package with "wrappers") would only work on Windoze.

  110. Ignition by roc97007 · · Score: 1

    My phone is a Droid X. 4.3 inch display at 854x480.

    For home, I use Logmein Ignition for Android to remote into a PC with all the administrative tools I normally use. This not only releases me from the need to find and configure SSH and X-windows on the phone, but it also has the advantage of doing an end-run around my firewall so I don't have to expose port 22 to the outside world.

    At work where logmein is forbidden, I use the Citrix client for Android to log into a spare work PC that has my tools and direct access to the company intranet.

    I know these solutions are not very geeky, but they're widely available, take a minimum of configuration, and appear to be very reliable.

    The only problem is to balance connectivity with portability. Wherever I go I'm most likely to have my phone on me, but it has the smallest screen of my devices and space is a little tight to do remote administration. It's more comfortable remoting in with a laptop, but the bulk and weight make it less likely I'll have it on me. I'm thinking a good compromise might be a 7" Android tablet. I hope to do some experiments in that area in the remote future.

    Whatever you use, I don't have to say that you DO NOT want to have the phone save passwords and log you in automatically, lest you leave the phone on the table at Starbucks. In some companies this is a firing offense.

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  111. On the run keyboard by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    Carrying around a BT keyboard is hardly on the run now is it.

    Your notion that bluetooth keyboards cannot be portable is rather quaint.

    I have a friend with one (not sure if it's this exact one), he keeps it in his pocket.

    If typing is at all important to you than even a cramped keyboard is a huge improvement over the tiny keys on mobile keyboards. You cannot say typing is so important that a virtual keyboard is a deal breaker and then turn around to insist the inflexible keypads, often without numbers, are any kind of substitute for a larger keyboard.

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  112. Re:i'm interested in an android app for ssh tunnel by element-o.p. · · Score: 2

    I use connectbot on my HTC Hero, but there are a few things that are somewhat annoying about it. First, I haven't got SSH Trusts working with it, which is kind of a big deal, since I'm paranoid enough to require the connecting device have its public key stored in the .ssh/authorized_hosts file on the SSH bastion host on my home network (although it hasn't been a big enough deal that I've spent a lot of time working on it). Second, since the Hero's virtual keyboard isn't a full 101-key keyboard, it's a bit clunky to do things like send an escape or CTRL-C character. It's possible, just a bit of a pain. Finally, every other app on the Hero allows you to press and hold a key on the keyboard to choose numbers or special characters, for example, press and hold the "t" key to type the number "5" or press and hold the "h" key to select an ampersand ("&"). Connectbot, for some obscure reason detects that as two key strokes. So, for example, if I try to type a quote character by pressing and holding the "x" key, connectbot detects an "x" and then a quote. As long as you are aware of the limitations and know how to work around them, connectbot is usable, just a bit clunky. Nevertheless, whenever possible, I prefer to do like someone else mentioned earlier and just tether a laptop to the phone so I can use a "normal" SSH client.

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  113. VITAL: Secure Random Number Source by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't forget to include in your requirements a secure source of entropy and cryptographically secure random number generation from that entropy pool. If your random number source is poor, your SSH session keys are vulnerable to cracking.

  114. Variant, iPad with ZaggMate keyboard case by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    As you noted iSSH also works with bluetooth keyboards - a nice combination might be an iPad with a Zagg case. I'm thinking about getting one myself...

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  115. Re:i'm interested in an android app for ssh tunnel by element-o.p. · · Score: 2

    My only complaint is that it doesn't remember passwords the way AndFTP does (another excellent tool, by the way). I'd like to not have to type in the darned password every time, but oh well, it's a lot better than no ssh.

    I don't know that I would want it to remember passwords. What happens if you lose your phone, or if someone steals it? If Connectbot remembers your passwords, you've just given a complete stranger the keys to your kingdom. It's a bit of a PITA to type passwords on my Hero with Connectbot, but less so than changing all of the passwords on every system to which I connect were I to lose the phone somewhere.

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  116. Re:i'm interested in an android app for ssh tunnel by amRadioHed · · Score: 1

    You'll probably need either a browser that supports proxies, the default one does not, or you could set up a VPN on your phone.

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  117. Re:i'm interested in an android app for ssh tunnel by TheCarp · · Score: 1

    yah that is alot of why I went for the droid2. I really liked the physical keyboard. Honestly, I am only so so on the touch screen stuff, its very clumsy for me, might work better if I had smaller fingers but, not much that I can do about that.... short of going to work with the bench grinder and honestly, that seems like overkill.

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  118. 5-row vs 4-row QWERTY keyboards by leighklotz · · Score: 1

    There's been a trend toward 4-row keyboards in the Android devices that even have them. The G1 had 5-rows of keys, so numbers are OK and you can type []{}`|.
    But the G2 is 4 rows and there's not even a soft key for backquote.

    At least on the Hiptop you got a real control key, not a control prefix.

    Maybe Nokia will see the light and support Android, or maybe Cyanogen will do the port.

  119. Re:i'm interested in an android app for ssh tunnel by BandoMcHando · · Score: 1

    Seconded - works great on my Torch - there were few rough edges in places, but the developer seems quite active and responsive to feedback - they get fixed quickly.

  120. zaTelnet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Since iOS 4.2.1 the inappropriately named zaTelnet is a free app which offers a fairly neat SSH client for the iPod touch/iPhone.

  121. what's left? it's not vt100 by dAzED1 · · Score: 1

    Control-C, Control-D...? I know, I know, you can do blah blah blah instead...but no. It's just not as useful yet.

  122. Re:i'm interested in an android app for ssh tunnel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    connectbot

  123. webOS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    webOS has preware, and from there you can download a Terminal, bash, and openSSH. It works very well for me.

  124. Agreed... by steppin_razor_LA · · Score: 1

    Performing sysadmin functions from a phone is far from ideal and its much more likely the sort of thing we want to be able to do (because getting it working seems "fun"), but having a tool in your belt for when the sh*t really hits the fan and you aren't near a computer or a laptop is a good idea.

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  125. Agreed by Weezul · · Score: 1

    The N900 is hands down the best phone for unix command line tools, including ssh. Beyond ssh, you've got dssh, sql clients, perl, python, ruby, etc. There are tools like desktop command execution widget that aleviate the need to develop applications for easy access to commonly used scripts. If you need a more complex gui interface, you can radically simplify the development process by using python,

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  126. How fast is "4G" on the G2? (Non N900 phones suck) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In my area the 3.5G reliably gets me 3Mbps+ and as high as 5Mbps on the N900.

    Where else can you get a phone that does the following?
    -Encrypted drives
    -Control your TV/Stereo/Other via IR
    -Pull down your local radio station via their website to catch a local football game while on a road trip (highway at 80Mph)?
    -Play 1.5G movie files without the need for re-encoding
    -Remote Desktop, VNC, SSH, FTP, etc... into a remote server over a VPN connection using ipsec, cisco, openvpn, others.
    -Make calls in the following ways cellular call, skype, google voice, private voip pbx, vonage over wifi or 3G all from a single phone interface (the default one)
    -Manage all your text based conversations (SMS, Jabber, Google Talk, AIM, ICQ, Yahoo, MSN, IRC and others) all from the same unified interface?
    -Video calls via Skype and Google? (also through the standard phone interface)
    -Play arcade and console games on a projector using a playstation controller?

    Yes I do all these things at least weekly.

    If someone makes a phone that does all that without the need to spend any money on additional software or hardware then sign me up! Until then the N900 is king.

  127. Android + ConnectBot and Done. by salesgeek · · Score: 1

    For sysadmin work, a real mechanical keyboard and a high resolution/bigger screen is a requirement so you can see what you are doing. The keyboard needs to have a full set of keys (meaning 5 rows, so you have numbers and symbols in the right place), including numeric keys to be practical.

    I have one of the original T-Mobile G-1's (the first Android phone). It has a very nice slide out keyboard and is amazing at doing SSH with ConnectBot, which is nearly the best SSH application I've used on any computer. Unfortunately, the G-1 is getting long in the tooth... so I'll probably upgrade soon.

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  128. Re:i'm interested in an android app for ssh tunnel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I use ConnectBot on my Galaxy S. There's a problem though, in that I can't find ctrl or alt on the keyboard... Is there a way around that? It's hard to edit configuration files without those keys.

  129. Re:i'm interested in an android app for ssh tunnel by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 1
    If you like midpssh for blackberry, you'll love it's successor BBSSH -- built atop midpssh with a serious compoinent rewrite/overhaul for BlackBerry device integration. I'm posting mobilke so I can't wax too poetic -- but try out the 2.0.1 release that I just posted yesterday -- you won't be disappointed. You can grab it here from you bb web browser.

    http://bbssh.org/ota

    best of all, it's still under active development. A ton of features have been added in 2.0 and more are planned

  130. iSSH for iPhone by Chewbacon · · Score: 1

    This is a paid app, but works really well for me. I've fixed disasters with it. Looks sweet on the iPhone 4 retina display. I can even use it to VNC to my desktop via SSH tunnel - works pretty well over 3G with the colors toned down. The on-screen keyboard can be made transparent so reading the stuff behind it isn't too difficult.

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  131. Re:i'm interested in an android app for ssh tunnel by yomammamia · · Score: 1

    I would have to say the HTC Touch Pro2 is my favorite. Good sized screen, port of putty amongst other things, and excellent keyboard. However, you will want to cook a ROM for best results and install the keyboard driver from XDA to allow you to fully map all of your keys.

  132. Re:i'm interested in an android app for ssh tunnel by gorzek · · Score: 1

    I have a Samsung Intercept and use ConnectBot, too. I always switch to the physical keyboard for terminal work. Great application.

  133. android is ok by mshenrick · · Score: 1

    i use my G1/Dream (CM7) as a client, and its not bad it doesnt do X though

  134. Re:i'm interested in an android app for ssh tunnel by wertarbyte · · Score: 1

    ConnectBot works fine. Key Authentication, Pot Forwarding, multiple sessions.

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  135. Cliq and Epic by vanyel · · Score: 1

    I used a Cliq with Better Terminal Emulator to ssh; I have an Epic now, and it's better because it does have the numbers separate, though that wasn't a *big* problem on the Cliq, and I liked the feel of the Cliq better. It was slightly slower though.

  136. Can't beat the N900 by Kludge · · Score: 2

    Not only ssh, but sshfs and X forwarding. For the administration that requires a graphical interface, just pop it up on your N900 display. You can't beat that.
    Not to mention OpenVPN works too.

  137. Verizon? by Spazmania · · Score: 1

    I don't want to switch from Verizon Wireless. The Nokia N900 looks awesome but it's a GSM phone. Any suggestions for a good SSH phone on Verizon?

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  138. Re:i'm interested in an android app for ssh tunnel by multisync · · Score: 1

    Thanks, I'll check BBSSH out.

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  139. ConnectBot with a G1 by thetoadwarrior · · Score: 1

    I'm using connectbot too and it's excellent and the G1 keyboard is good enough to do the job.

  140. HMD and folding keyboard by evilad · · Score: 1

    Seems like the real solution is a bluetooth keyboard and a hi-res HMD. One finally exists; the ITG-PCX3D has 1024x768 resolution... but nobody seems to be making a phone that can drive it.

  141. Obvious answer: Nokia N900 by yacc143 · · Score: 2

    Considering that OP asks for ssh, one might assume that he is from the Unix/Linux space, hence a Nokia N900 that is the ultimate hacker friendly phone makes sense.

    The biggest issue I've found with the keyoard that you need Fn to enter digits, and the dot is Fn-less hence, entering IP addresses needs some getting used to.

    Basically you are getting a ARM based Linux subsubsub notebook, with a X11 based UI that is appropiate for the size. And the form factor makes it a nice phone too.

    Drawbacks:

    -) the usual battery drain problem (basically if you are a power user you probably want to have a second charged pack at hand, a fully charged battery can be drained in 3 hours if you use it nonstop)
    -) some stuff like MMS (who is willing to pay for that?) need 3rd party apps. Other nice stuff like a Wifi hotspot or Bluetooth tethering need to be installed from extras-devel.
    -) default kernel comes without iptables, sigh.

    Other goodies:

    -) Firefox based default browser.
    -) Very well done Skype integration.
    -) The phone works well as an UMTS modem over USB (if you need to tether on the road for your laptop).
    -) Terminal app, and trivial root access, hence you can play completely e.g. with the network stack as you need it. (My home setup is: N900 tethered via USB to my desktop, accessing the Internet via the desktop, with a VNC client on the desktop to control the N900. If the cable modem fails, the N900 still accesses the Internet via the desktop, but the desktop uses the N900 as it's fallback UMTS modem)

  142. I have putty... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have putty, VNC and MS RDP client on my wm 6.5 smartphone. RDP works quite well..putty not so much however it still beats nothing.

  143. N900 for the win! by npsimons · · Score: 1

    Many people have already recommended the Nokia N900, but I have to strongly concur. I do admin stuff from my N900 all the time; I have a caching, ad-filtering, anonymizing proxy on my home server, which I setup an encrypted tunnel to with SSH for a lovely VPN, even if I'm on clear-text Wi-Fi. Not to mention, it easily stays up with a "while true; do ssh -L 3128:myserver.com:3128 myserver.com; sleep 1; done" because the N900 has a shell out of the box (and Perl, plus you can install Python, and Emacs, and Vim, etc, etc). Also, since the N900 runs XOrg, you can easily forward your X apps, either to or from the N900, or use VNC if you prefer. Sure, some people are more "comfortable" with an iPhone or Android device, but the N900 Just Works for geeks like me, no jailbreaking or rooting required.

  144. N900 by tifkap · · Score: 1

    I've used several nokia comunicators, symbian based phones, and several others, but the Nokia N900 is my best choice so far for my specific needs. It's not as cool as a iPhone or as funky as a Android, but it gets the jobs done. It's a mini debian desktop system, which can also make phone call's. .

  145. ConnectBot for Android + 1 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have been using ConnectBot for Android, and I think that it is pretty useful. It gives you access to the "esc" and "ctl" keys which is a big time plus. It's free and open source, another big plus.

    However, if you need to type a bunch of stuff, you better have a ton of spare time, because it will still take forever with a tiny mobile keyboard.

  146. Anonymous Coward by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Two words: Samsung Epic. That is all. I use connectbot but there are other SSH clients as well.

  147. Re:i'm interested in an android app for ssh tunnel by pxc · · Score: 1

    I think ConnectBot will do what you want (via port forwarding).

  148. Virgin Mobile = $25/month unlimited SSH by Geoffreyerffoeg · · Score: 2

    Virgin Mobile has a nice $25/month "Beyond Talk" deal for unlimited data and SMS and 300 minutes/month for voice (with higher priced plans if you use more voice), motto Go crazy on Android. It's prepaid if you want it to be, so it's nice that way. They only sell a single phone, the Samsung Intercept, but I've found it to be really nice for what I do: it's got a slide-out keyboard with a separate number row and with separate buttons per key (no membrane keyboard). I spend lots of time on SSH via ConnectBot and have found it to be pleasant to use.

    It's not the most powerful processor and the resolution isn't mindblowing and it's still Android 2.1, but I run my terminal at 80x21 and am quite happy with it, especially for the price.

    1. Re:Virgin Mobile = $25/month unlimited SSH by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Virgin Mobile has a nice $25/month "Beyond Talk" deal...motto Go crazy on Android"

      That's illegal. Has been, ever since the Android Abuse Act of 2137.

  149. thought kindle 3 would be ideal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I saw an advertisement for the kindle 3 recently and though to myself it would make an ideal ssh client. Super long battery life, 3G connection that's free, and a larger display meant for reading text.

  150. WebOS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Definitely the Palm Pre (2 if in the right country). I personally use it to ssh in all the time, especially with screen/byobu. It's truly a Linux system and all the packages come easily. Qt has been ported recently, iPhone apps can be easily ported, SDL is used for graphics so anything using that can be ported as well.

  151. More than that! by kentsin · · Score: 1

    We all have multi screen running on our desk.

    During a meeting or in a remote project group, there should be many many more screens around : desktop, iphone, tabalets, notebooks, ....

    Isnt it a need to zoom around files, screen shoots, x display sessions, keyboard tunnleing, audio in, audio out, midi?, video?, remote usb access, remote bookmark, remote cut/paste and authentation ?

    This should have been done for a linux desktop for years.

  152. Check out the NetWalker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For a small laptop that runs Ubuntu and fits in a (largish) pocket, check out the NetWalker. I wish the keyboard were better, but you can`t beat it for the size/usefulness tradeoff. Only a little larger than a phone, but the software is light years ahead. (Real fireFox with adblock, firebug, weave sync, whatever you want. Real ssh, real window managers, etc.)

    http://shop.conics.net/index.php/catalogsearch/result/?q=netwalker

  153. full keyboard by evilviper · · Score: 1

    Take it from me, you want a device with a large, fold out keyboard you can rest all 10 fingers on and touch type. Nothing else matters remotely as much as this one thing... Typing with one finger, or your thumbs, takes 10X as long.

    The gold standard is the Psion 5mx or Revo from 10 years ago... back when cell phones were tethered to PDAs for the business traveler, and every PDA but the Psions were either glorified alarm clocks, or flashy toys you couldn't actually get anything done on... Sure, this means a bulkier phone in your pocket, but it also means you get a much larger screen, and more room for batteries, expansion, etc.

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  154. Re:i'm interested in an android app for ssh tunnel by Trubacca · · Score: 1

    Yay.. my unasked question is answered! Many problems can now be solved with this program and my Epic.. this is fantastic. Thank you for pointing this out!

  155. I recommend a real keyboard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've been doing SSH-based server administration remotely with my G1 for over a year now already. Any Android phone with a keyboard works fine IMHO. The others, I can't speak for.

  156. N900 by MrPPS · · Score: 1

    Have you tried out the Nokia N900? Fairly cheap for unlocked ones over the net. 32GB internal storage. 256MB RAM. It's a proper Linux system, so the built in implementation of OpenSSH in Xterm works just fine :)

  157. Openmoko's Neo Freerunner or Neo 1973 by aloniv · · Score: 2

    Connecting the Openmoko phones to your Linux computer provides ssh, charging and internet sharing (you can use your computer's internet this way which is quite useful to check installed programmes which require internet access, e.g. a web browser or an instant messaging programme). The usb port also supports host mode. The screen resolution is pretty good as well for phones that were released in 2007-2008 (480x640). The phones don't have a physical keyboard, but the virtual QWERTY keyboard used with a stylus is quite good.

  158. Re:i'm interested in an android app for ssh tunnel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Agreed; ConnectBot is excellent. Even better, it supports using authentication keys for logging in, which you can use to log in without a password if you want.

    For anybody not familiar with how to create a keypair, this Wikipedia article explains how to do it:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ssh-keygen

    Create your keypair without a password, and then load the private key into ConnectBot (there is an option somewhere in the interface). As long as your private key is loaded, you just tap your session to log in!

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  159. Re:i'm interested in an android app for ssh tunnel by mikkelm · · Score: 1

    Check the "About" section of the app. On the Nexus One, tapping the navigation trackball will ctrl modify the following character.

  160. N900 comes out ahead, for admin work. by snargawok · · Score: 1

    This is a no-brainer for me.

    After using quite a few handsets, I've found the N900 wins for unix administration by quite a good distance.
    It has:
    - a well thought out physical keyboard,
    - a *very* well thought out touch optimized X Terminal, with toggles between swipe to scroll and swipe to select text for copy/paste, as well as gpm support for midnight commander clicks, etc.
    - openssh client (and openssh server only an apt-get command away)
    Its worth mentioning that it ships with these things *out of the box*

    The VNCviewer app (thank Aaron Levinson and Detlef Schmicker) is by far the best and fastest i've used on a mobile, and the included fine point stylus/restrictive touch screen is to be desired with remote admin work, for pixel accuracy. Same goes for the rdesktop app - a joy to use. Hardware keyboard is definitely ftw in these cases!

    N900 comes with busybox (bash available in repos), is based on debian. In the standard repositories are a good selection of the utilities you're already used to using for unix administration.

    The browser is firefox based, very fast, and very well thought out (and includes flash). Alternate browsers available are Firefox Mobile, Opera as well as a few others. You wont get stuck with a strange router web interface failing to render properly; being firefox based, everything renders exactly like it does on a desktop PC. (including the desktop version of google docs, maps, streetview etc; no "mobile / lite" versions needed)

    If you're not happy with the selection in the standard repos, apt-get install easy-debian-chroot. Then you have a full debian chroot and can run close on any linux package you wish, just like a full linux desktop (and not limited to console only; N900 runs a standard xorg and gtk/qt etc libraries). nmap anyone? screen? irssi? audacity? wireshark? kismet? tcpdump? All work beautifully.

    Make no mistake, this device is a unix administration powerhouse in your pocket. Nothing comes remotely close even now, over a year after release.

    Incidentally, it also holds it's own in other "smartphone" areas.. multitasking, multimedia, camera, skype video, podcasting etc. Oh and just for balance, it's weak point is lack of RAM. load a few large apps up and it starts swapping badly.

  161. Re:i'm interested in an android app for ssh tunnel by digitalhermit · · Score: 1

    Hey now... that works (I was the dumb anonymous user :D )...

    Looking through the wiki now trying to figure out the other keys (doesn't match up on the Droid2). Pretty cool watching top, nmon, and smitty through that interface...

  162. Re:i'm interested in an android app for ssh tunnel by Jeremy+Visser · · Score: 1

    My only complaint is that it doesn't remember passwords the way AndFTP does (another excellent tool, by the way). I'd like to not have to type in the darned password every time, but oh well, it's a lot better than no ssh.

    You've never heard of SSH keys?

    I've never typed a password to log on to any of my machines with ConnectBot. Nor am I planning to. There is no need for a password remembering feature (nor can I imagine there ever will be), because SSH keys makes that redundant.

  163. Nokia N97 with putty by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Works very well once you know all of putty's touch screen short cuts. Until you know them, accessing non-alphanumerics is bloody irritating.

  164. Re:i'm interested in an iPhone app for ssh tunnel by Condemn · · Score: 1

    Ahh, i had this problem, it's because the version that cydia has isn't compatible with the latest jailbreak. However, there is a way around it, as there is a newer version of the terminal app you can get (well, it works on 4.1, i've not upgraded to 4.2 yet) You'll have to search for it on google, i'd help but i'm at work now and pretty much everything fun is blocked ;p I think i searched for terminal incompatible with jailbreak 4.1 and it gave me a how-to guide to get the latest terminal version, which has been working for me.

  165. Re:i'm interested in an android app for ssh tunnel by tom17 · · Score: 1

    LOL nothing dumb about that. It was not intuitive, but what else can you do when you have limited buttons... It surprised me when I first found it too.

  166. Re:i'm interested in an android app for ssh tunnel by cynyr · · Score: 1

    connectbot[1] does ssh tunnels, and has pubkey support, no sftp though.

    [1] http://code.google.com/p/connectbot/

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    All of the above was encrypted with a Quad ROT-13 method. Unauthorized decryption is in violation of the DMCA.
  167. Re:i'm interested in an android app for ssh tunnel by cynyr · · Score: 1

    which means if you loose your phone and someone looks they may have full access to your hosts... not good.

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  168. Nokia e90 by wrong · · Score: 1

    I still use a Nokia E90 Communicator with Symbian PuTTY. Five row backlit keyboard, CTRL, and TAB. (The 9300 and 9500 communicators had ESC as well. Sigh.)

    I tried using a Nexus S, but ConnectBot is terrible without a hardware keyboard or trackball - even with "Full Keyboard" from the Market.

  169. T-Mobile G1 w/ ConnectBot by Genocaust · · Score: 1

    You can pick up a used G1 for $50 or less and hop on almost any carrier network you prefer. ConnectBot is free, works like a champ. The G1 has a full hardware keyboard, with numerals on their own row. I've gotten quite a bit of use out of mine with this setup until I finally upgraded to a newer phone.

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  170. Re:i'm interested in an android app for ssh tunnel by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 1

    Figured I'd engage in another bit of shameless self promotion - check out bbssh, midpssh's successor :)